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YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!

 
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Money would still go to an applicant's minor children through a third party.


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Another "freedom" lover thread. Oh God.
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They need to drug test politicians and rich people as well.
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politicians for sure, not getting the rich people, just drug tests everybody.. what the hell..

You people are really (imo) kinda out of touch about this whole issue..

All this will do is increase the crime rate. People going to get what they want or need, one way or the other..Be it drugs or food. This is a big mistake..

Besides that, welfare only accounts for about 3% of the whole budget. (or used to) Crime will go up much higher.
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Heaven forbid one of those ways would be to gain employment...


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Lots of welfare money goes right to corporations who happen to bankroll the political vermin .
Political vermin who happen to have large cashflows in many cases from welfare money .
Cut off all the drug users and the police industry will have to start really harassing the public to keep their jobs.

So this ain't all that and a bag of chips , it is just bullshit smoke and mirrors , nothing too see here move along .

fail 3 tests ? LOL what are the chances of being tested ? LOL yeah one test every four years and thats if they are unlucky .

shit shit and more shit
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Another "freedom" lover thread. Oh God.
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^ This
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I live in Texas, and yes people on drugs are on welfare. I have a neighbor who is a single Mama to four kids. She does not work, and she once sent a kid over to "borrow a page" out of the phone book. As a former drug user, I do not think she was interested in finding a plumber..

I agree it's a first step, but if anything they need to quit giving welfare to the children of illegals because it gives their parents a reason to have six kids and work under the table. Or even worse, with a stolen social..
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These people are apparent slow learners.

Look at Florida.
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They just want to find a way to punish people on welfare, even though most people on drugs are those who have jobs, not people on welfare.
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LM@O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so RANDOM DRUG TESTING in the workplace
is WHAT ????

do we agree with NO PROBABLE CAUSE for those breaking their ass and payong taxes ???
no and welfare parasites are not above it or a protected species.
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AUSTIN, TX -- The Texas Senate has passed a bill to drug test some welfare applicants and cut off drug users from receiving money.

The bill passed Wednesday temporarily cuts off benefits to drug users, with a permanent ban after three failed drug tests. Money would still go to an applicant's minor children through a third party.

The bill now goes to the House for consideration.

[link to abclocal.go.com]
 Quoting: WeRdOOmed


So of the users that are not just wankers - of which there are many - and are self medicating through no reasonable fault or choice of their own, they can just starve to death horribly? Only in America.

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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
They need to drug test politicians and rich people as well.
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politicians for sure, not getting the rich people, just drug tests everybody.. what the hell..

You people are really (imo) kinda out of touch about this whole issue..

All this will do is increase the crime rate. People going to get what they want or need, one way or the other..Be it drugs or food. This is a big mistake..

Besides that, welfare only accounts for about 3% of the whole budget. (or used to) Crime will go up much higher.
 Quoting: ceawaves


Heaven forbid one of those ways would be to gain employment...


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bump
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Hey Texas- Florida here. Sorry, Rick Scott tried that and they caught something like .008% of recepients while costing millions to do it. The cost benefit analysis says FAIL.

Oh, and our economy is shit compared to Texas so if I had to guess who was caught it was probably all grad students enjoying a bit of reefer.

So...good luck with that.
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They need to drug test politicians and rich people as well.
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Tard, rich people? So people who sacrifice and bust their ass should be tested?

But people who suck the tit of the working people and then want to spend that money on drugs. Should not be givin said help.stfu
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Slaves don't question the "authorities". Who created the welfare system? The slave "Masters"! Who collects TAX revenue from the sales of drugs, directly through legalized drug sales, and indirectly through illegal drug sales? Who collects TAX revenue from the sales of Alcohol, Tobaco, and Firearms? And some of you people think that God blesses America? Yeah, right, sure.
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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
They need to drug test politicians and rich people as well.
 Quoting: the inquisitor 37843042


politicians for sure, not getting the rich people, just drug tests everybody.. what the hell..

You people are really (imo) kinda out of touch about this whole issue..

All this will do is increase the crime rate. People going to get what they want or need, one way or the other..Be it drugs or food. This is a big mistake..

Besides that, welfare only accounts for about 3% of the whole budget. (or used to) Crime will go up much higher.
 Quoting: ceawaves


Heaven forbid one of those ways would be to gain employment...


hiding
 Quoting: Perfectly Paleo


Just saying how it is, or will be, not saying it's right.. , the only way to break the chains of welfare is to recondition/relearn them off welfare, that will take a least one generation.. which will never be done because they are the anchor of the Democrats voting base...
And gain employment how??? That's not in the plans for anybody in this country at this time.

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For the record: i don't believe in drug testing/ or that anyone should be drug tested unless there's reasons to believe the person may be on drugs.. you people welcome your chains..

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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
This is a step in the right direction, but not far enough...

Get rid of welfare! Get rid of it!

Get rid of unemployment! Get rid of it!

Get rid of income tax! Get rid of it!

(For those of you who believe in class warfare) The rich don't pay it anyway!

Return the money to the States, the counties, and the cities.

Don't pay for bureaucrats to run drug tests!

Don't pay for bureaucrats to run your lives!

Run your own lives!

Get to know your community! Make friends! Make yourself reliant on yourself and your neighbors in a time of crisis!

Make communities! Without communities the Federal Government has absolute authority, and all of sudden we have no choice on what new program we pay for, and we have no control over how it's administered, or how poorly it used and abused.

At least if charity were run on a county level, I could make sure the funds were given to the right people.

All a drug test will do is a net loss to the tax payer. It will create a few jobs which produce nothing, create more paperwork, loopholes, and inefficiency.

Any social program at the federal and most of the times state level has been abused, and is run poorly. socialism only works if it's with less then 150 people. Any more then that and it falls apart and becomes totalitarianism. It's a poor system of government, and a form of wealth redistribution.

We need to level the playing field! No person gets anything more then another. No unfair advantages! No bailouts! If you fail as a person, a corporation, etc, you better have friends to help you out, and guess what if you or your company is an A$$hole? Then you starve and die! This BS of more equal, of more in need is destroying this country!

Sorry, I know that was a little too ranty, but I figured I'd share. I just needed to get that off my chest.
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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
AUSTIN, TX -- The Texas Senate has passed a bill to drug test some welfare applicants and cut off drug users from receiving money.

The bill passed Wednesday temporarily cuts off benefits to drug users, with a permanent ban after three failed drug tests. Money would still go to an applicant's minor children through a third party.

The bill now goes to the House for consideration.

[link to abclocal.go.com]
 Quoting: WeRdOOmed


So of the users that are not just wankers - of which there are many - and are self medicating through no reasonable fault or choice of their own, they can just starve to death horribly? Only in America.
 Quoting: worldslastgunslinger


Boo fucking hooo, yep because most aree perfectly able to work. But its easier to sit on your ass and get high then get out and take care of yourself.
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I am sure the day comes when everyone is drug tested....except the ones in control.
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This is a step in the right direction, but not far enough...

Get rid of welfare! Get rid of it!

Get rid of unemployment! Get rid of it!

Get rid of income tax! Get rid of it!

(For those of you who believe in class warfare) The rich don't pay it anyway!

Return the money to the States, the counties, and the cities.

Don't pay for bureaucrats to run drug tests!

Don't pay for bureaucrats to run your lives!

Run your own lives!

Get to know your community! Make friends! Make yourself reliant on yourself and your neighbors in a time of crisis!

Make communities! Without communities the Federal Government has absolute authority, and all of sudden we have no choice on what new program we pay for, and we have no control over how it's administered, or how poorly it used and abused.

At least if charity were run on a county level, I could make sure the funds were given to the right people.

All a drug test will do is a net loss to the tax payer. It will create a few jobs which produce nothing, create more paperwork, loopholes, and inefficiency.

Any social program at the federal and most of the times state level has been abused, and is run poorly. socialism only works if it's with less then 150 people. Any more then that and it falls apart and becomes totalitarianism. It's a poor system of government, and a form of wealth redistribution.

We need to level the playing field! No person gets anything more then another. No unfair advantages! No bailouts! If you fail as a person, a corporation, etc, you better have friends to help you out, and guess what if you or your company is an A$$hole? Then you starve and die! This BS of more equal, of more in need is destroying this country!

Sorry, I know that was a little too ranty, but I figured I'd share. I just needed to get that off my chest.
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clappa
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As the poster above pointed out, the testing cost Florida many times more than what they saved by "catching" welfare drug users.

It's somewhat akin to the madness of the "War on Drugs". Huge expenditure, little or no progress.

There has to be a better way of handling things...I just don't know what it is. When the cost of doing something consistently out weighs the benefits, it is broken.

Fiscal responsibility comes first and foremost. You don't waste money and you don't spend money that you don't have. Throwing money down the toilet just so some "pothead" can't have it is actually quite insane.
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It sounds good until you encounter the fact that "drug" testing really means marijuana testing. Marijuana is not a drug anymore than broccoli or dandelions, but because of it's persistence in fatty tissue, it remains detectable long after TRUE drugs - artificial chemicals produced in labs - have dissipated. Heroin users can then laugh at their far-more-innocent Cannabis smoking friends as they continue to collect their welfare benefits.
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...............and it makes people lazy
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sorry wrong. I have a full time job and have no problems getting up in the morning. You are brainwashed
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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
nuke texas

welfare gets its funding from the corporation/s

fact not fiction

corporate shills have to make sure the poor stay poor

so the corporations stocks can stay up

so all you mid class smucks can keep your stupid worthless junk making jobs

it also give mid-class some dip shit complex about free loaderism


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You also have to remember that just because somebody is having a hard time right now, and is asking for help, doesn't mean they are a druggie. TANF and SNAP are two different things. Granted, it can be easy to sell SNAP benefits, but it usually goes to .50 on the dollar. Whereas TANF is straight cash loaded on your card. You also have these privately owned Indian gas stations that will charge ANYTHING on a SNAP card. That is why people need to report abuse. Report the stores and it will get traced back to the card holder.

People who TRULY need benefits are getting screwed by the lazy. I see it on a daily basis here in Tx.
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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
They need to drug test politicians and rich people as well.
 Quoting: the inquisitor 37843042


Tard, rich people? So people who sacrifice and bust their ass should be tested?

But people who suck the tit of the working people and then want to spend that money on drugs. Should not be givin said help.stfu
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Yeah but you must realise, that without the druggie scum, you have no benchmark to measure your fine self against, and thus no-one to belittle in order to validate your crawl up onto your high horse.

So judgmental. You act as though the life of a drug addict is more pleasurable than your own. Ever stop to wonder why people take drugs to begin with? No probably not.
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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
This is a step in the right direction, but not far enough...

Get rid of welfare! Get rid of it!

Get rid of unemployment! Get rid of it!

Get rid of income tax! Get rid of it!

(For those of you who believe in class warfare) The rich don't pay it anyway!

Return the money to the States, the counties, and the cities.

Don't pay for bureaucrats to run drug tests!

Don't pay for bureaucrats to run your lives!

Run your own lives!

Get to know your community! Make friends! Make yourself reliant on yourself and your neighbors in a time of crisis!

Make communities! Without communities the Federal Government has absolute authority, and all of sudden we have no choice on what new program we pay for, and we have no control over how it's administered, or how poorly it used and abused.

At least if charity were run on a county level, I could make sure the funds were given to the right people.

All a drug test will do is a net loss to the tax payer. It will create a few jobs which produce nothing, create more paperwork, loopholes, and inefficiency.

Any social program at the federal and most of the times state level has been abused, and is run poorly. socialism only works if it's with less then 150 people. Any more then that and it falls apart and becomes totalitarianism. It's a poor system of government, and a form of wealth redistribution.

We need to level the playing field! No person gets anything more then another. No unfair advantages! No bailouts! If you fail as a person, a corporation, etc, you better have friends to help you out, and guess what if you or your company is an A$$hole? Then you starve and die! This BS of more equal, of more in need is destroying this country!

Sorry, I know that was a little too ranty, but I figured I'd share. I just needed to get that off my chest.
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The people didn't want Ron Paul, remember? They want this shit.
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why not just go back to old school food stamps?

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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
They need to drug test politicians and rich people as well.
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Tard, rich people? So people who sacrifice and bust their ass should be tested?

But people who suck the tit of the working people and then want to spend that money on drugs. Should not be givin said help.stfu
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Who do the "working people" work for? The corporations and businesses who create the TAX revenue from the sales of legal and illegal drugs, the sales of pornography, the sale of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms? Hmmm? If anybody needs to shut up, ITS YOU!
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I hate to think that a big chunck of my paycheck goes for drugs using.
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Re: YES!!! Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare!!!
nuke texas

welfare gets its funding from the corporation/s

fact not fiction

corporate shills have to make sure the poor stay poor

so the corporations stocks can stay up

so all you mid class smucks can keep your stupid worthless junk making jobs

it also give mid-class some dip shit complex about free loaderism


classic
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Here's a big ole'bushfing from a Texan.
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This is bullshit. I am a harmless pot head. Why should I lose my piddling $110 a month in food stamps? I need that money to eat. But should they pass that here I will just starve. I ain't pissing in no jar for no one, no way, no how, never.
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I hate to think that a big chunck of my paycheck goes for drugs using.
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Its all good. Im pretty sure a big chunck of it doesnt.
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yeah, drug test the poor and maybe children next

lol

texans sure are a crap group

their governer condones the manufacture of pink slime optic nerves for school children as well

and of course they have sheriff insane boy that dresses men in pink cause thats how you help criminals

lol

maybe the texas ranger girlscouts ought to enforce the testing

lol

in oklahoma we call texans "they theat think their ranches are worth anythng to anyone"

oil barons, and texas girlscout rangers
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