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MuslimAmerican User ID: 26542172 United States 04/11/2013 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do Western countries allow that religious freedoms can infringe upon classical freedoms? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37753718 This is not a matter of freedom, it's a matter of modesty. Just because a large chunk of western women are complete insect and std infected whores that like to flaunt themselves like pieces of meat and are expected to do so by (a lot of) western men, doesn't mean all women are that way. Anyway this doesn't make much sense, even in some of the most strict predominately Muslim countries, men and women are allowed to swim together or see one another, it's just that the must wear modest clothing to do so. Probably another bigot trying to make a big deal out of something just because he thinks Muslims are some how involved. In the end, in a perfect world, if Canada really did start acting on a modesty code, it'd actually help the country especially in the area of teenage pregnancies, pregnancies outside of wedlock and so on. Sharia is the cure for an immoral society. What a tolerant fellow you are. Sadly, a perfect spokesman for your religion... Tolerance doesn't inhibit stating facts, I could careless what they do so long as it doesn't affect me. Last Edited by MuslimAmerican on 04/11/2013 04:15 PM Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) |
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Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO SHE PICKS THE SWIMMING SUIT...THE ONE I PICKED ISNT COOL SHE SAYS... AND BY THE WAY WHY ARE YOU SO INSISTENT AND HAVING ACCESS TO A ALL GILRS SWIMMING CLASS HUH? YOU DONT KNOW WHO IS OR WHO ISNT A PEDO.... YOU RATHER RISK THE SAFETY OF YOUR DAUGHTER OVER YOUR FEELINGS BEING HURT... I RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY YOU LIBTARD Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36722046 She picks the swimsuit, huh? Do you look at her in it? BTW, your logic is back asswards. If I am there no pedo is going to survive making a play for my daughter. And make no error in judgement, such a venue as a swimming class for is a magnet pedophiles, just like a school teacher, baseball coach or scout master. It isn't hard to figure out. No normal person wants to be around thirty or forty kids all day long, it would drive most of us crazy. In this day in age you have to be there to protect your kids, and if you're not allowed to alarm bells should go off ,LOUD! ^^^ this... is why people want women only classes without the male eyes or input. His lense is completely through a males eyes. In HIS mind, the instructor is a male. Perhaps the instructor is female? He's worried about a pedo and if he sees one, he'll take him out so not to worry. See how this about HIM still? He's not thinking about the fact that maybe his daughter is growing breast or having other things going on with her body that is changing and dealing with that is even harder in a SWIM class and perhaps even more embarrassing if a MALE is watching, whether that male even sees her in class or not makes no difference because SHE knows he is there. So, while you think YOU need to be there to protect your kids, maybe you should have the mother or aunt go instead or perhaps meet several of the mothers of the other girls in the class and ask them to keep an eye out for your daughter. Chances are, EVERYONE from instructor to staff allowed to see are women. If you're worried about bully-lesbo then talk with your daughter to stay with someone else at all times when in the locker room, even when talking with the coach. That's what your job is at this point in her life. FEMALE perspective, you don't get it, so let them have their class and pick another if you can't handle it. Having grown up in the 60's and 70's , it is hard for me to imagine we have became so obsessed with this issue that we have allowed it to destroy all rational thinking, and that's what has happened. I went to the beach and public swimming pools all throughout my childhood and there were all kinds of people there , and men, women and children wore all kinds of bathing suits. We all swam together and there was never any single incident I can recall of a problem. The reason there was no problem is simple, because everyone was allowed to be there and there was no opportunity for any foul play without a hundred witnesses to it, some who would undoubtedly have proceeded to beat the 'offender' senseless. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 04/11/2013 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes i am paranoid when it comes to my little daughter... yes i am I think it is more than paranoia myself. I have never heard a normal man raise any objection to other men with children present watching them all swim except once, and the guy was a pedophile. are you retarded....THE ISSUE IS A MAN IS UPSET BECAUSE HE CANT BE IN HIS DAUGHTERS ALL GIRL SWIMMING CLASS. LEARN TO UNDERSTAND SENTENCES There is "all girl soccer", "basketball", "gymnastics", "figure skating".......... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36722046 United States 04/11/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36722046 yes i am paranoid when it comes to my little daughter... yes i am I think it is more than paranoia myself. I have never heard a normal man raise any objection to other men with children present watching them all swim except once, and the guy was a pedophile. are you retarded....THE ISSUE IS A MAN IS UPSET BECAUSE HE CANT BE IN HIS DAUGHTERS ALL GIRL SWIMMING CLASS. LEARN TO UNDERSTAND SENTENCES There is "all girl soccer", "basketball", "gymnastics", "figure skating".......... you must smoke alot of weed or something.. THE CLASS IS ALL GIRLS...NO MALES .. THATS THE CLASS DONT FIGHT IT. IF YOUR NOT ALLOWED IN SEND THE WIFE TO WATCH.. HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND ? LAY OFF THE WEED |
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Mama Outlaw User ID: 1675711 United States 04/11/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes i am paranoid when it comes to my little daughter... yes i am I think it is more than paranoia myself. I have never heard a normal man raise any objection to other men with children present watching them all swim except once, and the guy was a pedophile. If a gay dad and his partner showed up at hs wrestling all the other dads would be super paranoid. The same dads are comfortable with men watching their daughters in gymnastics. Americans tolerate the sexual exploitation of their daughters while protecting their sons. It's a clear double standard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 04/11/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1315151 I think it is more than paranoia myself. I have never heard a normal man raise any objection to other men with children present watching them all swim except once, and the guy was a pedophile. are you retarded....THE ISSUE IS A MAN IS UPSET BECAUSE HE CANT BE IN HIS DAUGHTERS ALL GIRL SWIMMING CLASS. LEARN TO UNDERSTAND SENTENCES There is "all girl soccer", "basketball", "gymnastics", "figure skating".......... you must smoke alot of weed or something.. THE CLASS IS ALL GIRLS...NO MALES .. THATS THE CLASS DONT FIGHT IT. IF YOUR NOT ALLOWED IN SEND THE WIFE TO WATCH.. HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND ? LAY OFF THE WEED Best response you've had to the argument yet! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1903526 United States 04/11/2013 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seeing how they are from the middle east desert area, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1903526 do you think their children have bigger camel toes ? Gee whiz, YOU are exactly why I would never allow a daughter of mine to attend a swimming class in my absence. Thanks for your participation i just know the middle east is full of camels camels full of toes don't they double park them while they swim? |
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Smith Jefferys User ID: 15628045 United Kingdom 04/11/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We became friends through work, and working late one night she'd uncovered her face and was all 'okay, this is me'. She was absolutely beautiful, but said that her husband and family treated her like shit. Well, she arranged to 'work late' a few times, but we'd actually leave work early, she would get changed into normal clothes and we'd go back to my village, to the pub, she'd come back to mine for a bit etc etc. It fizzled out in the end, because I'd helped her discover true independence and she wanted to spread her wings further, so she moved down South away from her family and started a new life and job with a bit of help from me and my friends. We stay in touch occasionally, and she's happily married now to a normal person, which I'm really pleased about. I see her husband from time to time, slouching around in his robes with his greasy beard, spitting on the floor and leering at non-Muslim women while he drags his new poor wife around behind him. When I see non-Muslim women who've converted to Islam, I absolutely despair, because I know they're probably weak-willed/have been victims/seeking belonging, and fallen into the trap of an evil misogynistic religion that entraps them, but strangely celebrated by their liberal friends who seem think that they're expressing personal freedom, when in actuality they've just become trapped and either enjoy being controlled or are too afraid to escape once they realise they've done wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37852426 Canada 04/11/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a message to Muslims immigrants living in Canada: Welcome to Canada. Take a good look at our laws and our Charter of freedom. Feel free to enjoy your religion in your home and at your local worshiping establishment. NEVER impose your religious views on OUR society. If you do we will be happy to feed you to our wonderful Grizzly Bears. Thank you! |
Mama Outlaw User ID: 1675711 United States 04/11/2013 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't they understand that it's these backward thinking elements that brought them here in the first place? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24794489 Why implement it then? Canada is pro women rights. Women have the right to swim without being watched by men. Whenever a pool offers a women only swim time it is immediately very popular. |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a message to Muslims immigrants living in Canada: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37852426 Welcome to Canada. Take a good look at our laws and our Charter of freedom. Feel free to enjoy your religion in your home and at your local worshiping establishment. NEVER impose your religious views on OUR society. If you do we will be happy to feed you to our wonderful Grizzly Bears. Thank you! “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37871242 Canada 04/11/2013 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the word "public" is a problem..having males standing around "observing" is a problem for me no matter how you look at it. It was advertised as a female only swim class..if you aren't swimming and you aren't female and ALSO DIDN'T PAY- you have no right to be there..fuck the other religious complaints this asshole wants his rights and by demanding his rights would also allow pedophiles to have the same rights because of his complaining I am from Toronto and pay my property taxes to make these programs available to everybody...I call this guy a borderline pedophile scum asshole..married men with kids can still be pedophiles ( probably at least 80% of pedophile assaults are direct fathers ) If I had a young girl at that class I would applaud them for asking him to leave...he can teach his kid to swim by himself..we also live on a lake in Toronto I call him a pedophile straight out using religion as a front. think about it...If I want my little girl to learn how to swim and I pay somebody to teach them why would I need to be there for the lessons.. |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 37090573 Canada 04/11/2013 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ++Kate++ You are demented, the majority of men, majority I said, do not look at women as a piece of meat. WTH happened to you, no fatherly love I suspect. Sad for you. THIS LADY IS OK WITH MEN WATCHING HER YOUNG DAUGHTER ALMOST NAKED..WHAT A PIECE O SHIT What do you do, lock your daughter up? Do you take her to the beach ever? You're retarded. Muslims make space for women and girls to exercise and sun without being stared at by strange men. They also make the advocate safe and comfortable clothing for team sport. Most fathers would have a problem with gay men coming to watch their sons wrestling in high school. The same dads should be equally uncomfortable with hetero men watching their daughters in gymnastics. When you put your child's body on display you take additional precautions. Western parents are much more protective of sons than daughters. The sexual exploitation of girls is considered normal in this society. We aren't talking about random people coming to watch though. The other people there would also be observing their own child. Every place I've ever taken my child, allows only parents or guardians( aunts, uncles, whatever). |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've thought about it and I would like to watch my kid learn how to swim. Just like my sister goes to watch her son at karate. Im sure she likes to see how he interacts with people and see what her money is paying for. Are people on this board obsessed with pedo's or something. I think it sux that just cuz a guy wants to watch his kid swim everyone thinks hes a pedo. Again. Our society is so backward. “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also if you let your kid go UNDER WATER in the beaches of downtown Toronto I consider that child abuse lol “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37871242 Canada 04/11/2013 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36722046 THIS LADY IS OK WITH MEN WATCHING HER YOUNG DAUGHTER ALMOST NAKED..WHAT A PIECE O SHIT What do you do, lock your daughter up? Do you take her to the beach ever? You're retarded. Muslims make space for women and girls to exercise and sun without being stared at by strange men. They also make the advocate safe and comfortable clothing for team sport. Most fathers would have a problem with gay men coming to watch their sons wrestling in high school. The same dads should be equally uncomfortable with hetero men watching their daughters in gymnastics. When you put your child's body on display you take additional precautions. Western parents are much more protective of sons than daughters. The sexual exploitation of girls is considered normal in this society. We aren't talking about random people coming to watch though. The other people there would also be observing their own child. Every place I've ever taken my child, allows only parents or guardians( aunts, uncles, whatever). by exerting your rights to "observe" you open the gates to freely allow anyone to "observe" the class That kind of "right" is a slippery slope...so you might agree to filming and a 'kiddie swimming' pedophile website too?? Your intellectual string will lead to allowing that as well |
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Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do Western countries allow that religious freedoms can infringe upon classical freedoms? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37753718 This is not a matter of freedom, it's a matter of modesty. Just because a large chunk of western women are complete insect and std infected whores that like to flaunt themselves like pieces of meat and are expected to do so by (a lot of) western men, doesn't mean all women are that way. Anyway this doesn't make much sense, even in some of the most strict predominately Muslim countries, men and women are allowed to swim together or see one another, it's just that the must wear modest clothing to do so. Probably another bigot trying to make a big deal out of something just because he thinks Muslims are some how involved. In the end, in a perfect world, if Canada really did start acting on a modesty code, it'd actually help the country especially in the area of teenage pregnancies, pregnancies outside of wedlock and so on. Sharia is the cure for an immoral society. What a tolerant fellow you are. Sadly, a perfect spokesman for your religion... Tolerance doesn't inhibit stating facts, I could careless what they do so long as it doesn't affect me. But it's ok if a man has sex with a little girl as long as he marries her, but not alright for a father to watch his little girl learn to swim because one of your crotch droppings happens to be there? Don;t you see the utter hypocrisy of your position, and your religion as a whole? |
deeznutz User ID: 22487626 Canada 04/11/2013 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is fucking bullshit! I live in Toronto I have heard about this for the past few days and listen in on talk 640 and as one caller said... "My tax money goes towards the pool being open so now I have to find another place and maybe pay ontop of it to have the chance to be with my daughter?" Ship them all out of here!!! Next time I see them I will make sure I eat a BLT infront of them all and blow it towards them Dreamchasers |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ++Kate++ What do you do, lock your daughter up? Do you take her to the beach ever? You're retarded. Muslims make space for women and girls to exercise and sun without being stared at by strange men. They also make the advocate safe and comfortable clothing for team sport. Most fathers would have a problem with gay men coming to watch their sons wrestling in high school. The same dads should be equally uncomfortable with hetero men watching their daughters in gymnastics. When you put your child's body on display you take additional precautions. Western parents are much more protective of sons than daughters. The sexual exploitation of girls is considered normal in this society. We aren't talking about random people coming to watch though. The other people there would also be observing their own child. Every place I've ever taken my child, allows only parents or guardians( aunts, uncles, whatever). by exerting your rights to "observe" you open the gates to freely allow anyone to "observe" the class That kind of "right" is a slippery slope...so you might agree to filming and a 'kiddie swimming' pedophile website too?? Your intellectual string will lead to allowing that as well You are most definitely demented. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 04/11/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ++Kate++ What do you do, lock your daughter up? Do you take her to the beach ever? You're retarded. Muslims make space for women and girls to exercise and sun without being stared at by strange men. They also make the advocate safe and comfortable clothing for team sport. Most fathers would have a problem with gay men coming to watch their sons wrestling in high school. The same dads should be equally uncomfortable with hetero men watching their daughters in gymnastics. When you put your child's body on display you take additional precautions. Western parents are much more protective of sons than daughters. The sexual exploitation of girls is considered normal in this society. We aren't talking about random people coming to watch though. The other people there would also be observing their own child. Every place I've ever taken my child, allows only parents or guardians( aunts, uncles, whatever). by exerting your rights to "observe" you open the gates to freely allow anyone to "observe" the class That kind of "right" is a slippery slope...so you might agree to filming and a 'kiddie swimming' pedophile website too?? Your intellectual string will lead to allowing that as well It's probably best to just lock kids up and never let them leave home. |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a kiddie swimming pedophile website?? I mean is this guy reaching or what. “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |
son of God New Jerusalem Russ User ID: 1004004 Canada 04/11/2013 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is that we have a Roman Catholic society using the Gregorian calendar system with the beliefs of Freemasonry mixed in of allowing all religions so Muslims enter but want everyone to be Muslim. So you have a multireligious mixed up mess. Everyone should do the New Jerusalem plan [link to newjerusalemcalendar.com] Wed Mar 1/25/13 |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flipping through the channels one day I came across a national geographic program depicting a naked African child licking a cows vagina [you can't make this stuff up, I'm very serious], and on the same channel I have repeatedly seen completely naked people of all ages from south America, africa, and Asia as I channel surfed.. It is also on the discovery channel. The national geographic magazine was ALWAYS in every school library, with the same sort of depictions. WHY? My television receiver is set to block all pornography of any kind from being displayed, so how did this get through? The answer is simple, it is not pornography because there is no human on human sexual activity taking place. My question is, why would a pedophile go to a swimming class to get his (or her) kicks when they have this stuff to watch? Toddlers in Tiaras? Good lord you fucking idiots, don't you see how damned hypocritical and stupid you are? You want to deny the inherent right of a father to observe and protect his own child because of modesty? Why aren't you writing the FCC and complaining about a kid licking a cows vagina to make it give more milk? Get fucking real. There are two reason i can think of why someone would want to prevent a father from being there and neither one of them is good. Either the person is a pedo themselves and makes the assumption everyone else is , or God forbid they are a pedo involved in the program that the daughter is attending who want's to make it as private as possible. I suspect the latter is true in the case in Toronto. The same reason the Boy scouts don't allow fathers to go along and help. WAKE THE FUCK UP for christs sake. |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | orrrr couldnt it just be a rule that has nothing to do with pedophilia? holy crap. “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |