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MuslimAmerican User ID: 26542172 United States 04/11/2013 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do Western countries allow that religious freedoms can infringe upon classical freedoms? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37753718 This is not a matter of freedom, it's a matter of modesty. Just because a large chunk of western women are complete insect and std infected whores that like to flaunt themselves like pieces of meat and are expected to do so by (a lot of) western men, doesn't mean all women are that way. Anyway this doesn't make much sense, even in some of the most strict predominately Muslim countries, men and women are allowed to swim together or see one another, it's just that the must wear modest clothing to do so. Probably another bigot trying to make a big deal out of something just because he thinks Muslims are some how involved. In the end, in a perfect world, if Canada really did start acting on a modesty code, it'd actually help the country especially in the area of teenage pregnancies, pregnancies outside of wedlock and so on. Sharia is the cure for an immoral society. Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 748601 United States 04/11/2013 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not put my child into any thing like that if I could not observe. How does the instructor relate to the children? How do they deal with disruptions? Is my child making progress? Sorry, these are things I want to see for myself, not hear from the teenager teaching the class. Quoting: Vic-chick13 Can't the mom or an aunt watch? The issue is that he is male. |
DILKe User ID: 22944037 United States 04/11/2013 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see Canada is not immune to this bullshit as well. Marxism is the true enemy of our civilization. What is Cultural Marxism: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do Western countries allow that religious freedoms can infringe upon classical freedoms? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37753718 This is not a matter of freedom, it's a matter of modesty. Just because a large chunk of western women are complete insect and std infected whores that like to flaunt themselves like pieces of meat and are expected to do so by (a lot of) western men, doesn't mean all women are that way. Anyway this doesn't make much sense, even in some of the most strict predominately Muslim countries, men and women are allowed to swim together or see one another, it's just that the must wear modest clothing to do so. Probably another bigot trying to make a big deal out of something just because he thinks Muslims are some how involved. In the end, in a perfect world, if Canada really did start acting on a modesty code, it'd actually help the country especially in the area of teenage pregnancies, pregnancies outside of wedlock and so on. Sharia is the cure for an immoral society. ha! “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 04/11/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe at time of sign up whether online or in person they should inform the parent that they will not be able to watch. Then this could have been avoided maybe. Quoting: outdoorgyal Well then we could avoid the real reasons for this decision right, sweep it under the rug, maybe it will go away. oh I dont want to sweep it under the rug at all. I think its absolutely ridiculous what happened but then at least the parent has a choice to not enroll his child. Okay, that seems fair enough. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 37753718 Germany 04/11/2013 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do Western countries allow that religious freedoms can infringe upon classical freedoms? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37753718 This is not a matter of freedom, it's a matter of modesty. Just because a large chunk of western women are complete insect and std infected whores that like to flaunt themselves like pieces of meat and are expected to do so by (a lot of) western men, doesn't mean all women are that way. Anyway this doesn't make much sense, even in some of the most strict predominately Muslim countries, men and women are allowed to swim together or see one another, it's just that the must wear modest clothing to do so. Probably another bigot trying to make a big deal out of something just because he thinks Muslims are some how involved. In the end, in a perfect world, if Canada really did start acting on a modesty code, it'd actually help the country especially in the area of teenage pregnancies, pregnancies outside of wedlock and so on. Sharia is the cure for an immoral society. What a tolerant fellow you are. Sadly, a perfect spokesman for your religion... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37854721 United States 04/11/2013 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blind women with guide dogs can't get a cab because some Muslims think dogs are "unclean" Thread: Are Muslim Cab Drivers refusing to take Service Animals or Single Women? True or Urban Folklore? |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No kid of mine would be in any situation where I was not welcome to be at any time of my choosing. Period. This is just common sense. I wouldn't even allow a dentist or doctor to see a child of mine without my supervision, why would I let a swim coach and lifeguards who probably signed up for these positions to be near children and have a much higher probability of being pedophiles? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 748601 United States 04/11/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No kid of mine would be in any situation where I was not welcome to be at any time of my choosing. Period. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1315151 This is just common sense. I wouldn't even allow a dentist or doctor to see a child of mine without my supervision, why would I let a swim coach and lifeguards who probably signed up for these positions to be near children and have a much higher probability of being pedophiles? Do we know if the instructor is a female or male. If I signed up for a womans only class and any of my teachers were male, I would feel betrayed. |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by outdoorgyal on 04/11/2013 02:42 PM “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |
DILKe User ID: 22944037 United States 04/11/2013 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, whenever I've been in a public setting even in a modest one piece swim suit I've had unwanted attention from men. I even get them at Walmart!! Mostly unwelcome sexual comments regarding my body. Strange men commenting about my breast, legs or rear, does make me uncomfortable. Totally enjoy those kind of comments from my husband :) This is why I prefer to work out and swim with women only. I simply don't need that kind of attention. Quoting: Estella<3 So, your argument is NOT ABOUT THE FATHER, it's about YOU. No my argument is that swim centers have women only classes because some women prefer them. Not for fanatical religious reasons. Based on my own personal experiences. Did you graduate with a degree in feminism studies? Last Edited by FBHO on 04/11/2013 02:43 PM Marxism is the true enemy of our civilization. What is Cultural Marxism: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36913875 United States 04/11/2013 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's ridiculous to consider the father a pedophile. The clad women should be targeted by the same imbeciles for their "purported" behaviors. [link to www.usnews.com] Suicide attacks in Iraq are increasingly conducted by women, who can more easily pass through checkpoints without being searched. Typically clad conservatively from head to toe, women are rarely stopped and even more rarely subjected to body searches, because it is considered improper in Muslim culture for a male to scrutinize (much less pat down) a woman. Terrorist groups such as Al Qaeda in Iraq are now exploiting this fact to evade security measures. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 04/11/2013 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blind women with guide dogs can't get a cab because some Muslims think dogs are "unclean" Quoting: zenobiaphobia Thread: Are Muslim Cab Drivers refusing to take Service Animals or Single Women? True or Urban Folklore? Why did they leave their homelands? This is ridiculous that we're allowing them to infringe on our rights. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 748601 United States 04/11/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just goes to show how you can't put all girls in one category. I bet girls with a lot of brothers who are used to them and their brothers friends around all the time are less likely to see why it's important to other women to have some activities away from males but I'm guessing on that and trying to figure out how some of the women here can't understand. If there is a group of women who don't want to have men around while swimming doesn't mean they think men are pedos or bad but they are men. It shouldn't be rocket-science to figure out why some groups of women would prefer to have a class ran the way this class is run. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32391318 United States 04/11/2013 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, whenever I've been in a public setting even in a modest one piece swim suit I've had unwanted attention from men. I even get them at Walmart!! Mostly unwelcome sexual comments regarding my body. Strange men commenting about my breast, legs or rear, does make me uncomfortable. Totally enjoy those kind of comments from my husband :) This is why I prefer to work out and swim with women only. I simply don't need that kind of attention. Quoting: Estella<3 So, your argument is NOT ABOUT THE FATHER, it's about YOU. No my argument is that swim centers have women only classes because some women prefer them. Not for fanatical religious reasons. Based on my own personal experiences. Did you graduate with a degree in feminism studies? |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No kid of mine would be in any situation where I was not welcome to be at any time of my choosing. Period. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1315151 This is just common sense. I wouldn't even allow a dentist or doctor to see a child of mine without my supervision, why would I let a swim coach and lifeguards who probably signed up for these positions to be near children and have a much higher probability of being pedophiles? Do we know if the instructor is a female or male. If I signed up for a womans only class and any of my teachers were male, I would feel betrayed. Denying female on female pedophilia is a problem , and that problem is ignorance. Because it isn't caught and prosecuted is simply because it isn't suspected. |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if some of the women in these all women gyms or whatever are gay? They could be oggling you too. The whole argument that estella is putting forward is ridiculous (just my opinion). Ive worked out at all women gyms before and it was mostly because I didnt want to hear dudes grunting while they worked out lol and because it was in close proximity to home. Everyone is too fucking sensitive. People are going to look at you or not look at you, bathing suit or not, child or full grown female. The whole thing that irks me here is that the guy was told religious reasons. The people of those religions should learn how to swim privately or do so surrounded by people of the same religion. Canada is a place that is proud of their multiculturalism. I love being able to see other traditions and what not. But im honestly sick of OUR traditions being thrown to the waist side to make people feel more comfortable. Suck it up or leave! I'm still pissed that they dont play O'Canada in schools lol glad I was in school before everything became so politically correct. “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 04/11/2013 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if some of the women in these all women gyms or whatever are gay? They could be oggling you too. The whole argument that estella is putting forward is ridiculous (just my opinion). Ive worked out at all women gyms before and it was mostly because I didnt want to hear dudes grunting while they worked out lol and because it was in close proximity to home. Quoting: outdoorgyal Everyone is too fucking sensitive. People are going to look at you or not look at you, bathing suit or not, child or full grown female. The whole thing that irks me here is that the guy was told religious reasons. The people of those religions should learn how to swim privately or do so surrounded by people of the same religion. Canada is a place that is proud of their multiculturalism. I love being able to see other traditions and what not. But im honestly sick of OUR traditions being thrown to the waist side to make people feel more comfortable. Suck it up or leave! I'm still pissed that they dont play O'Canada in schools lol glad I was in school before everything became so politically correct. Good post and I was pissed too that they took out our national anthem from the schools, some kids today don't even know the words because of that. |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I can say is we need to look to the past and decide whether we liked things the way they were 40 years ago or the way they are now, and stop going along with all of this bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 748601 United States 04/11/2013 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No kid of mine would be in any situation where I was not welcome to be at any time of my choosing. Period. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1315151 This is just common sense. I wouldn't even allow a dentist or doctor to see a child of mine without my supervision, why would I let a swim coach and lifeguards who probably signed up for these positions to be near children and have a much higher probability of being pedophiles? Do we know if the instructor is a female or male. If I signed up for a womans only class and any of my teachers were male, I would feel betrayed. Denying female on female pedophilia is a problem , and that problem is ignorance. Because it isn't caught and prosecuted is simply because it isn't suspected. I don't understand how pedophilia took over the conversation as the main concern. You don't have to think a man is a pedo or a man is bad to understand that he is still a MAN and I don't care what they are there for they WILL look at a 14 year old, men look we all know that, some more than others and some more obvious than others, girls that choose this class no that and don't want to be thinking that while learning to swim. Girls that don't care if they look or can block it out without it affecting their behavior or learning can be comfortable in mixed classes but thank goodness they have options. |
Matrix-V User ID: 32905635 Canada 04/11/2013 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If fags come first, muzzrags & all visible minorities second and whitey third, then toronto is the place for you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25952629 lived there, seen it. Hateful little person, aren't you? #25952629 is correct, even if he/she used un-PC language. Any white person who has lived in a 'progressive' American or western city with a majority minority population would agree, assuming they're brutally honest. White heterosexual males are THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL..SCUM OF THE EARTH..as far as 'progressives' and leftwingers are concerned. Yes.. being a white male aged 30 years old I have the weight of the world on me. I am in the worst demographic possible I believe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 04/11/2013 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next the fucking feminists and the religious fanatics are going to take over the public parks and pools and segregate them by sex and age. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1315151 All I can say is we need to look to the past and decide whether we liked things the way they were 40 years ago or the way they are now, and stop going along with all of this bullshit. Exactly, we're heading backwards and people don't see this. |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if some of the women in these all women gyms or whatever are gay? They could be oggling you too. The whole argument that estella is putting forward is ridiculous (just my opinion). Ive worked out at all women gyms before and it was mostly because I didnt want to hear dudes grunting while they worked out lol and because it was in close proximity to home. Quoting: outdoorgyal Everyone is too fucking sensitive. People are going to look at you or not look at you, bathing suit or not, child or full grown female. The whole thing that irks me here is that the guy was told religious reasons. The people of those religions should learn how to swim privately or do so surrounded by people of the same religion. Canada is a place that is proud of their multiculturalism. I love being able to see other traditions and what not. But im honestly sick of OUR traditions being thrown to the waist side to make people feel more comfortable. Suck it up or leave! I'm still pissed that they dont play O'Canada in schools lol glad I was in school before everything became so politically correct. Good post and I was pissed too that they took out our national anthem from the schools, some kids today don't even know the words because of that. I like you sig.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37857849 United States 04/11/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If fags come first, muzzrags & all visible minorities second and whitey third, then toronto is the place for you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25952629 lived there, seen it. Hateful little person, aren't you? #25952629 is correct, even if he/she used un-PC language. Any white person who has lived in a 'progressive' American or western city with a majority minority population would agree, assuming they're brutally honest. White heterosexual males are THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL..SCUM OF THE EARTH..as far as 'progressives' and leftwingers are concerned. I get what the poster meant, but I am white and a homosexual male. I approve of the poster expressing their freedom to say what they like, but I object to being pulled both ways. I know full well that as a white male I am blame for every damn thing in such a ridiculous PC world. I'm also a little fucking sick of people assuming that homos are the problem. I'd bet good money that I'm more of a man than most of the dickheads that pipe up about that shit. I almost feel as though I should draw a venn diagram to show that no one person belongs to one demographic, but many. And you know all about dickheads and shit |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1315151 United States 04/11/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No kid of mine would be in any situation where I was not welcome to be at any time of my choosing. Period. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1315151 This is just common sense. I wouldn't even allow a dentist or doctor to see a child of mine without my supervision, why would I let a swim coach and lifeguards who probably signed up for these positions to be near children and have a much higher probability of being pedophiles? Do we know if the instructor is a female or male. If I signed up for a womans only class and any of my teachers were male, I would feel betrayed. Denying female on female pedophilia is a problem , and that problem is ignorance. Because it isn't caught and prosecuted is simply because it isn't suspected. I don't understand how pedophilia took over the conversation as the main concern. You don't have to think a man is a pedo or a man is bad to understand that he is still a MAN and I don't care what they are there for they WILL look at a 14 year old, men look we all know that, some more than others and some more obvious than others, girls that choose this class no that and don't want to be thinking that while learning to swim. Girls that don't care if they look or can block it out without it affecting their behavior or learning can be comfortable in mixed classes but thank goodness they have options. I feel sorry for whatever poor bastard married you, if at all. His life must be a pure hell. Feminism is not modesty, it is a disease, and you have it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 04/11/2013 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nations laws. Usury, once in control, will wreck any nation. Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile." Upon nationalizing the Bank of Canada in 1938 ~ William Lyon Mackenzie King Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1315151 Thanks, I liked it too, it was said in 1938 and look at where we are today! |
outdoorgyal User ID: 13106815 Canada 04/11/2013 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if some of the women in these all women gyms or whatever are gay? They could be oggling you too. The whole argument that estella is putting forward is ridiculous (just my opinion). Ive worked out at all women gyms before and it was mostly because I didnt want to hear dudes grunting while they worked out lol and because it was in close proximity to home. Quoting: outdoorgyal Everyone is too fucking sensitive. People are going to look at you or not look at you, bathing suit or not, child or full grown female. The whole thing that irks me here is that the guy was told religious reasons. The people of those religions should learn how to swim privately or do so surrounded by people of the same religion. Canada is a place that is proud of their multiculturalism. I love being able to see other traditions and what not. But im honestly sick of OUR traditions being thrown to the waist side to make people feel more comfortable. Suck it up or leave! I'm still pissed that they dont play O'Canada in schools lol glad I was in school before everything became so politically correct. Good post and I was pissed too that they took out our national anthem from the schools, some kids today don't even know the words because of that. I like you sig.. thanks :) hahah oops thought you were talking to me :p Last Edited by outdoorgyal on 04/11/2013 03:03 PM “Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens |