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Biblical proof that ‘the LORD’ ['God'] of the Bible = Satan!

These 2 passages are referenced to each other in the Bible (KJV) and you can check for yourself that they are in the same context (by reading the succeeding few verses)

<< 2 Samuel 24 >>
King James Version
1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

Is referenced to:

<< 1 Chronicles 21 >>
King James Version
1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Within the same exact context the terms ‘the LORD’ and ‘Satan’ are used interchangeably! – as if they were the same entity! – which they are!

The Devil’s greatest accomplishment has been to deceive the world into thinking he was ‘God’ and worshiping him as such!

Quit worshiping Satan, Christians!
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We need to have a talk about the difference between proof and evidence.
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We need to have a talk about the difference between proof and evidence.
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Satan/Devil is a construct of the church whose image is based upon the Pagan fertility God Pan. The word 'adversary' was changed to Devil during the Dark Ages to scare the gullible to adopt the Christian faith. As Paul himself said- its ok to deceive & lie if its done in the name of the Lord.
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us"
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Satan is the good guy. Gods the bad guy.
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Satan/Devil is a construct of the church whose image is based upon the Pagan fertility God Pan. The word 'adversary' was changed to Devil during the Dark Ages to scare the gullible to adopt the Christian faith. As Paul himself said- its ok to deceive & lie if its done in the name of the Lord.
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Doesn't the word 'Sin' come from the pagan moon god Sin also?

Thus, when the moon turns red it sheds it's blood for your sin!
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Biblical proof that ‘the LORD’ ['God'] of the Bible = Satan!

These 2 passages are referenced to each other in the Bible (KJV) and you can check for yourself that they are in the same context (by reading the succeeding few verses)

<< 2 Samuel 24 >>
King James Version
1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

Is referenced to:

<< 1 Chronicles 21 >>
King James Version
1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Within the same exact context the terms ‘the LORD’ and ‘Satan’ are used interchangeably! – as if they were the same entity! – which they are!

The Devil’s greatest accomplishment has been to deceive the world into thinking he was ‘God’ and worshiping him as such!

Quit worshiping Satan, Christians!
 Quoting: Quadro


the word satan means opposing force
it is not the same as it saying lucifer

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heres proof everything you know is a lie

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Biblical proof that ‘the LORD’ ['God'] of the Bible = Satan!

These 2 passages are referenced to each other in the Bible (KJV) and you can check for yourself that they are in the same context (by reading the succeeding few verses)

<< 2 Samuel 24 >>
King James Version
1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

Is referenced to:

<< 1 Chronicles 21 >>
King James Version
1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Within the same exact context the terms ‘the LORD’ and ‘Satan’ are used interchangeably! – as if they were the same entity! – which they are!

The Devil’s greatest accomplishment has been to deceive the world into thinking he was ‘God’ and worshiping him as such!

Quit worshiping Satan, Christians!
 Quoting: Quadro


the word satan means opposing force
it is not the same as it saying lucifer
 Quoting: EyE Of The Sparrow


Yea, technically just means 'The adversary', but in this context SATAN is used to represent the LORD!

So 'The LORD' is SATAN!

Interchangeable characters, cool trick huh?
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heres proof everything you know is a lie

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Is that a 'Groxt' video? The guy who thinks Obama is the anti-christ & the rapture is at hand?

He makes some interesting observations in showing that ancient hieroglyphs are similar in all cultures. Nothing more. To me this would seem more proof that most cultures have bases in their religions from astrological worship.

It certainly doesn't prove Judaism or Christianity are the 'right' religions. In other words, his interpretations are straight from the looney bin.

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Satan/Devil is a construct of the church whose image is based upon the Pagan fertility God Pan. The word 'adversary' was changed to Devil during the Dark Ages to scare the gullible to adopt the Christian faith. As Paul himself said- its ok to deceive & lie if its done in the name of the Lord.
 Quoting: paul777


Doesn't the word 'Sin' come from the pagan moon god Sin also?

Thus, when the moon turns red it sheds it's blood for your sin!
 Quoting: Quadro


I'm not aware of that one. Wouldn't surprise me though as the Bible was put together from many sources & is full of Pagan concepts & writings.
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Satan/Devil is a construct of the church whose image is based upon the Pagan fertility God Pan. The word 'adversary' was changed to Devil during the Dark Ages to scare the gullible to adopt the Christian faith. As Paul himself said- its ok to deceive & lie if its done in the name of the Lord.
 Quoting: paul777


Doesn't the word 'Sin' come from the pagan moon god Sin also?

Thus, when the moon turns red it sheds it's blood for your sin!
 Quoting: Quadro


I'm not aware of that one. Wouldn't surprise me though as the Bible was put together from many sources & is full of Pagan concepts & writings.
 Quoting: paul777


Yup, it's even in encyclopedia Britannica:

Sin, (Akkadian), Sumerian Nanna, in Mesopotamian religion, the god of the moon. Sin was the father of the sun god, Shamash (Sumerian: Utu), and, in some myths, of Ishtar (Sumerian: Inanna), goddess of Venus, and with them formed an astral triad of deities.

Nanna, the Sumerian name for the moon god, may have originally meant only the full moon, whereas Su-en, later contracted to Sin, designated the crescent moon.

[link to www.britannica.com]

Obvious where the Muslims get their 'crescent moon' symbol from.

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heres proof everything you know is a lie

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Is that a 'Groxt' video? The guy who thinks Obama is the anti-christ & the rapture is at hand?

He makes some interesting observations in showing that ancient hieroglyphs are similar in all cultures. Nothing more. To me this would seem more proof that most cultures have bases in their religions from astrological worship.

It certainly doesn't prove Judaism or Christianity are the 'right' religions. In other words, his interpretations are straight from the looney bin.
 Quoting: Quadro


Did you even watch it? i hate how people hear the name jesus and rapture, then shut it off without looking at the info.
yes basicly what he shows is what David dIcke(as in controlled throughout history by beings of alien nature, some with reptilian appearance)talks about but it fits more in a christian perspective because the guy is christian.

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The stuff groxt is showing is called Layered ART where at each angle a new picture appears.
Mason's learn this at a very high degree and it can be seen in most logo's from company's that are owned by Mason's
(not saying all layered art is done by masons either)

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Satan/Devil is a construct of the church whose image is based upon the Pagan fertility God Pan. The word 'adversary' was changed to Devil during the Dark Ages to scare the gullible to adopt the Christian faith. As Paul himself said- its ok to deceive & lie if its done in the name of the Lord.
 Quoting: paul777


Doesn't the word 'Sin' come from the pagan moon god Sin also?

Thus, when the moon turns red it sheds it's blood for your sin!
 Quoting: Quadro



No, the greek word sin, means to "miss the mark". what the pagans do with this is of no consequence at all, since they believe their own lies, like many people do.
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Satan/Devil is a construct of the church whose image is based upon the Pagan fertility God Pan. The word 'adversary' was changed to Devil during the Dark Ages to scare the gullible to adopt the Christian faith. As Paul himself said- its ok to deceive & lie if its done in the name of the Lord.
 Quoting: paul777


Doesn't the word 'Sin' come from the pagan moon god Sin also?

Thus, when the moon turns red it sheds it's blood for your sin!
 Quoting: Quadro



No, the greek word sin, means to "miss the mark". what the pagans do with this is of no consequence at all, since they believe their own lies, like many people do.
 Quoting: Wingedlion27


Apparently you believe a lie because you worship the Jewish Satan God...
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Satan/Devil is a construct of the church whose image is based upon the Pagan fertility God Pan. The word 'adversary' was changed to Devil during the Dark Ages to scare the gullible to adopt the Christian faith. As Paul himself said- its ok to deceive & lie if its done in the name of the Lord.
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Satan/Devil is a construct of the church whose image is based upon the Pagan fertility God Pan. The word 'adversary' was changed to Devil during the Dark Ages to scare the gullible to adopt the Christian faith. As Paul himself said- its ok to deceive & lie if its done in the name of the Lord.
 Quoting: paul777


Doesn't the word 'Sin' come from the pagan moon god Sin also?

Thus, when the moon turns red it sheds it's blood for your sin!
 Quoting: Quadro



No, the greek word sin, means to "miss the mark". what the pagans do with this is of no consequence at all, since they believe their own lies, like many people do.
 Quoting: Wingedlion27


Apparently you believe a lie because you worship the Jewish Satan God...
 Quoting: Quadro


i was a pagan for a little bit and i can tell you it is not the road you wanna go down. I saw the planets as having there own planetary gods for example venus "lucifer" planet of desire, and Saturn "satan" "father time" "chronos" keeper of the Titans. i could go on and on, but what they don't tell you is that your praying to fallen angels.
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Doesn't the word 'Sin' come from the pagan moon god Sin also?

Thus, when the moon turns red it sheds it's blood for your sin!
 Quoting: Quadro



No, the greek word sin, means to "miss the mark". what the pagans do with this is of no consequence at all, since they believe their own lies, like many people do.
 Quoting: Wingedlion27


Apparently you believe a lie because you worship the Jewish Satan God...
 Quoting: Quadro


i was a pagan for a little bit and i can tell you it is not the road you wanna go down. I saw the planets as having there own planetary gods for example venus "lucifer" planet of desire, and Saturn "satan" "father time" "chronos" keeper of the Titans. i could go on and on, but what they don't tell you is that your praying to fallen angels.
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No, the greek word sin, means to "miss the mark". what the pagans do with this is of no consequence at all, since they believe their own lies, like many people do.
 Quoting: Wingedlion27


Apparently you believe a lie because you worship the Jewish Satan God...
 Quoting: Quadro


i was a pagan for a little bit and i can tell you it is not the road you wanna go down. I saw the planets as having there own planetary gods for example venus "lucifer" planet of desire, and Saturn "satan" "father time" "chronos" keeper of the Titans. i could go on and on, but what they don't tell you is that your praying to fallen angels.
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so what do you think then? you atheist?
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Biblical proof that ‘the LORD’ ['God'] of the Bible = Satan!

These 2 passages are referenced to each other in the Bible (KJV) and you can check for yourself that they are in the same context (by reading the succeeding few verses)

<< 2 Samuel 24 >>
King James Version
1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

Is referenced to:

<< 1 Chronicles 21 >>
King James Version
1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Within the same exact context the terms ‘the LORD’ and ‘Satan’ are used interchangeably! – as if they were the same entity! – which they are!

The Devil’s greatest accomplishment has been to deceive the world into thinking he was ‘God’ and worshiping him as such!

Quit worshiping Satan, Christians!
 Quoting: Quadro


OP you lie, because you lack understanding.

I'll place the CORRECT INTERPRETATION of the book of Chronicles here.

I know that it won't help you much, but maybe...


This record of God's anger against David is recorded in II Samuel 24:1, "And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, "Go, number Israel and Judah." The numbering of the men of Israel and Judah was given for a military sense, just as it is today in the selective service registration. However who is this "he" that moved David to go and take this numbering or censes of all the men of Israel and Judah? Remember it has always been God that gave Israel the victory, so why are these censes being taken? Before, David had taken only the number of people that he needed, and God prepared the way for the victory.

Sometimes it only took a few men to destroy an entire army. We saw in the prior chapters that one man would kill hundreds of men in one place, for God over powered that person, and gave him the strength and wisdom to overcome his enemies. This "he " that influenced David to commit this sin was not God, but in I Chronicles we read that it was Satan that took this act against Israel, and caused David to commit this sin of not relying on God for their leadership and direction.

I Chronicles 21:1 "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."

I Chronicles 21:2 "And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the People, "Go number Israel from Beer-sheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it."

You want to be very careful as to who you are listening to, and to the direction that the person is leading you into. Satan likes nothing better than whisper sweet things that sound so good into your ears and mind, to deceive you into going against the instructions of God's Word. Satan will play mind games with you if you allow him to, just as he was doing here with David.

Pride caused Satan's fall, and this same pride will be used by Satan to cause your fall, to give you a big head to where you take your eyes of God, and focus on your own strengths. Satan was trying to tell David that he did not need God, for he had a great number of men himself, and he could do the job without the leading of the heavenly Father. So David went out and had Joab to number the men to see what kind of an army would come from the tribes of Israel. David was the king of Israel, and he now lost focus that he once had, as to who it is that gives the victory.

I Chronicles 21:3 "And Joab answered, "The Lord make His People an hundred times so many more as they be: but, my lord the king, are they not all my lord's servants? why then doth my lord require this thing? why will he be a cause of TRESPASS TO ISRAEL?"

I Chronicles 21:4 "Nevertheless the king's word prevailed against Joab. Wherefore Joab departed, and went throughout all Israel, and came to Jerusalem."

Joab knew exactly what this numbering meant, and he was not for the numbering, nevertheless, David was the king, and the king's orders had to be met. There was another time when Joab let his opinion be known, and it was after David's son Absalom's death. Joab reminded David that the only time that God allowed for the numbering of the men was for a certain purpose. Those numberings were in the wilderness at the foot of mount Sinai, two years after the Israelites departed out of Egypt, and just prior to the entering into the promise land. God did not have his hand in this numbering, but Joab numbered the men anyway, just as David ordered.

I Chronicles 21:5 "And Joab gave the sum of the number of the People unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword."

Remember that it was Satan that caused this numbering, so God's blessings were not on this army, nor the battles that they would go out to fight. Joab even told David that this numbering was an insult to God.

I Chronicles 21:6 "But Levi and Benjamin counted he not among them: for the king's word was abominable to Joab."

The reason for the numbering was for a purpose, for making up an army to go out and fight a war. Remember from the book of Leviticus and Numbers, that the Levites were not in the numbering of the other tribes, and that is because God set them aside to be the ministers and priests, and to do the work of the Tabernacle. God set the Levites aside from military service, and Joab knew this. In Numbers 26 we see the numbering of all the tribes, except the Levites. When a man was numbered in the army for service, his name was placed on the roster, and he and his family were to receive land in the Promise land, once the Israelites had taken the land. This time of David was some four hundred years after that numbering and Israel was in the promise land and an established nation with it's king.

The Levites were heading the spiritual leadership and tending to the sacrifices and offerings that were required by God's law for the congregation. However, the tribe of Benjamin had been all but eliminated, so much to the point that only 600 men had survived the war it had against his brethren of the other tribes. This record is well recorded in Judges chapters nineteen through twenty one. The ladies making up the tribe of Benjamin were all from the tribe of Judah, as the few survivors of Benjamin were trying to rebuild their tribe into what it was at one time.

I Chronicles 21:7 "And God was displeased with this thing; therefore He smote Israel."




David's selected army lost bad, very bad on the battle field.

I Chronicles 21:8 "And David said unto God, "I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing: but now, I beseech Thee, do away the iniquity of Thy servant; for I have done very foolishly."

II Samuel 24:10 "And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the People. And David said unto the Lord, "I have sinned greatly in that I have done: and now, I beseech thee, O Lord, take away the iniquity of Thy servant; for I have done very foolishly."


I Chronicles 21:9 "And the Lord spake unto Gad, David's seer, saying,"

This "seer of God", is a prophet of God, that is being used by God to instruct David.

I Chronicles 21:10 " "Go and tell David, saying, `Thus saith the Lord,' I offer thee three things: choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee.' "

Notice that God is not going to let David off the hook so easily. There is a price to be paid for this sin that David has committed. God is going to give David a choice of which of three things that will come over the Israelites for this sins. It will be up to David to chose the one.

David's sin was not trusting God for the protection of His people, and this was an insult to our Heavenly Father.

I Chronicles 21:11 "So Gad came to David, and said unto him, "Thus saith the Lord, `Chose thee"

I Chronicles 21:12 "Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the Lord, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel.' Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring against to Him That sent me."

Did you get the three choices that God gave David to choose from?

First: A heavy famine that would cover all the land for seven years. Remember what Amos said was to happen just before the time of the end, from Amos 8:11? "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:" When there is a physical famine, people die. When there is a spiritual famine for the lack of the Word of God, there will be a great spiritual death of the people.

Second: There will be a warfare between Israel and it's enemies, and for three months Israelites will be slaughtered on the battle field.

Third: Three days of Pestilence would cover the land. Bugs and insects would devour crops, and destroy the land. What a choice, and now David has to make his choice.

I Chronicles 21:13 "And David said unto Gad, "I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the Lord; for very great are His mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man."

David thought over the three choices, and of course there is no way that David wants innocent people to suffer for his sins. Yet David did not want an enemy to come into the land and have their way with his people. David told this prophet Gad, that I love my Father enough, and I trust in His great mercy and wisdom, that I am going to let God make the choice of what shall happen to me. The point that is made here, is that no matter what has happened nor what the correction on the matter is; Don't cease loving and trusting God. You are always better off when God deals out the judgment for you know that the exact measure of punishment will be given, for our God is a just and merciful God.

I Chronicles 21:14 "So the Lord sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men."
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Re: Do Christians really worship SATAN??? PROOF inside!
Biblical proof that ‘the LORD’ ['God'] of the Bible = Satan!

These 2 passages are referenced to each other in the Bible (KJV) and you can check for yourself that they are in the same context (by reading the succeeding few verses)

<< 2 Samuel 24 >>
King James Version
1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

Is referenced to:

<< 1 Chronicles 21 >>
King James Version
1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Within the same exact context the terms ‘the LORD’ and ‘Satan’ are used interchangeably! – as if they were the same entity! – which they are!

The Devil’s greatest accomplishment has been to deceive the world into thinking he was ‘God’ and worshiping him as such!

Quit worshiping Satan, Christians!
 Quoting: Quadro


Yeah, that one always stood out to me! Jehovah was an evil being who claimed he was GOD. You must admit, Christ does not remotely resemble the tyrannical, dictatorial quality of Jehovah. The Gnostics believed the Old Testament god was an evil being pretending he was god, imposing his will on humanity and enslaving them spiritually. When Christ told the Jews their father was the devil, this would certainly make sense.
“I’m just your average horny little devil.”
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Re: Do Christians really worship SATAN??? PROOF inside!
Biblical proof that ‘the LORD’ ['God'] of the Bible = Satan!

These 2 passages are referenced to each other in the Bible (KJV) and you can check for yourself that they are in the same context (by reading the succeeding few verses)

<< 2 Samuel 24 >>
King James Version
1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

Is referenced to:

<< 1 Chronicles 21 >>
King James Version
1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Within the same exact context the terms ‘the LORD’ and ‘Satan’ are used interchangeably! – as if they were the same entity! – which they are!

The Devil’s greatest accomplishment has been to deceive the world into thinking he was ‘God’ and worshiping him as such!

Quit worshiping Satan, Christians!
 Quoting: Quadro


Yeah, that one always stood out to me! Jehovah was an evil being who claimed he was GOD. You must admit, Christ does not remotely resemble the tyrannical, dictatorial quality of Jehovah. The Gnostics believed the Old Testament god was an evil being pretending he was god, imposing his will on humanity and enslaving them spiritually. When Christ told the Jews their father was the devil, this would certainly make sense.
 Quoting: YankeeRose555

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Re: Do Christians really worship SATAN??? PROOF inside!
Biblical proof that ‘the LORD’ ['God'] of the Bible = Satan!

These 2 passages are referenced to each other in the Bible (KJV) and you can check for yourself that they are in the same context (by reading the succeeding few verses)

<< 2 Samuel 24 >>
King James Version
1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

Is referenced to:

<< 1 Chronicles 21 >>
King James Version
1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Within the same exact context the terms ‘the LORD’ and ‘Satan’ are used interchangeably! – as if they were the same entity! – which they are!

The Devil’s greatest accomplishment has been to deceive the world into thinking he was ‘God’ and worshiping him as such!

Quit worshiping Satan, Christians!
 Quoting: Quadro


OP you lie, because you lack understanding.

I'll place the CORRECT INTERPRETATION of the book of Chronicles here.

I know that it won't help you much, but maybe...


This record of God's anger against David is recorded in II Samuel 24:1, "And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, "Go, number Israel and Judah." The numbering of the men of Israel and Judah was given for a military sense, just as it is today in the selective service registration. However who is this "he" that moved David to go and take this numbering or censes of all the men of Israel and Judah? Remember it has always been God that gave Israel the victory, so why are these censes being taken? Before, David had taken only the number of people that he needed, and God prepared the way for the victory.

Sometimes it only took a few men to destroy an entire army. We saw in the prior chapters that one man would kill hundreds of men in one place, for God over powered that person, and gave him the strength and wisdom to overcome his enemies. This "he " that influenced David to commit this sin was not God, but in I Chronicles we read that it was Satan that took this act against Israel, and caused David to commit this sin of not relying on God for their leadership and direction.

I Chronicles 21:1 "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."

I Chronicles 21:2 "And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the People, "Go number Israel from Beer-sheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it."

You want to be very careful as to who you are listening to, and to the direction that the person is leading you into. Satan likes nothing better than whisper sweet things that sound so good into your ears and mind, to deceive you into going against the instructions of God's Word. Satan will play mind games with you if you allow him to, just as he was doing here with David.

Pride caused Satan's fall, and this same pride will be used by Satan to cause your fall, to give you a big head to where you take your eyes of God, and focus on your own strengths. Satan was trying to tell David that he did not need God, for he had a great number of men himself, and he could do the job without the leading of the heavenly Father. So David went out and had Joab to number the men to see what kind of an army would come from the tribes of Israel. David was the king of Israel, and he now lost focus that he once had, as to who it is that gives the victory.

I Chronicles 21:3 "And Joab answered, "The Lord make His People an hundred times so many more as they be: but, my lord the king, are they not all my lord's servants? why then doth my lord require this thing? why will he be a cause of TRESPASS TO ISRAEL?"

I Chronicles 21:4 "Nevertheless the king's word prevailed against Joab. Wherefore Joab departed, and went throughout all Israel, and came to Jerusalem."

Joab knew exactly what this numbering meant, and he was not for the numbering, nevertheless, David was the king, and the king's orders had to be met. There was another time when Joab let his opinion be known, and it was after David's son Absalom's death. Joab reminded David that the only time that God allowed for the numbering of the men was for a certain purpose. Those numberings were in the wilderness at the foot of mount Sinai, two years after the Israelites departed out of Egypt, and just prior to the entering into the promise land. God did not have his hand in this numbering, but Joab numbered the men anyway, just as David ordered.

I Chronicles 21:5 "And Joab gave the sum of the number of the People unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword."

Remember that it was Satan that caused this numbering, so God's blessings were not on this army, nor the battles that they would go out to fight. Joab even told David that this numbering was an insult to God.

I Chronicles 21:6 "But Levi and Benjamin counted he not among them: for the king's word was abominable to Joab."

The reason for the numbering was for a purpose, for making up an army to go out and fight a war. Remember from the book of Leviticus and Numbers, that the Levites were not in the numbering of the other tribes, and that is because God set them aside to be the ministers and priests, and to do the work of the Tabernacle. God set the Levites aside from military service, and Joab knew this. In Numbers 26 we see the numbering of all the tribes, except the Levites. When a man was numbered in the army for service, his name was placed on the roster, and he and his family were to receive land in the Promise land, once the Israelites had taken the land. This time of David was some four hundred years after that numbering and Israel was in the promise land and an established nation with it's king.

The Levites were heading the spiritual leadership and tending to the sacrifices and offerings that were required by God's law for the congregation. However, the tribe of Benjamin had been all but eliminated, so much to the point that only 600 men had survived the war it had against his brethren of the other tribes. This record is well recorded in Judges chapters nineteen through twenty one. The ladies making up the tribe of Benjamin were all from the tribe of Judah, as the few survivors of Benjamin were trying to rebuild their tribe into what it was at one time.

I Chronicles 21:7 "And God was displeased with this thing; therefore He smote Israel."




David's selected army lost bad, very bad on the battle field.

I Chronicles 21:8 "And David said unto God, "I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing: but now, I beseech Thee, do away the iniquity of Thy servant; for I have done very foolishly."

II Samuel 24:10 "And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the People. And David said unto the Lord, "I have sinned greatly in that I have done: and now, I beseech thee, O Lord, take away the iniquity of Thy servant; for I have done very foolishly."


I Chronicles 21:9 "And the Lord spake unto Gad, David's seer, saying,"

This "seer of God", is a prophet of God, that is being used by God to instruct David.

I Chronicles 21:10 " "Go and tell David, saying, `Thus saith the Lord,' I offer thee three things: choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee.' "

Notice that God is not going to let David off the hook so easily. There is a price to be paid for this sin that David has committed. God is going to give David a choice of which of three things that will come over the Israelites for this sins. It will be up to David to chose the one.

David's sin was not trusting God for the protection of His people, and this was an insult to our Heavenly Father.

I Chronicles 21:11 "So Gad came to David, and said unto him, "Thus saith the Lord, `Chose thee"

I Chronicles 21:12 "Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the Lord, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel.' Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring against to Him That sent me."

Did you get the three choices that God gave David to choose from?

First: A heavy famine that would cover all the land for seven years. Remember what Amos said was to happen just before the time of the end, from Amos 8:11? "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:" When there is a physical famine, people die. When there is a spiritual famine for the lack of the Word of God, there will be a great spiritual death of the people.

Second: There will be a warfare between Israel and it's enemies, and for three months Israelites will be slaughtered on the battle field.

Third: Three days of Pestilence would cover the land. Bugs and insects would devour crops, and destroy the land. What a choice, and now David has to make his choice.

I Chronicles 21:13 "And David said unto Gad, "I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the Lord; for very great are His mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man."

David thought over the three choices, and of course there is no way that David wants innocent people to suffer for his sins. Yet David did not want an enemy to come into the land and have their way with his people. David told this prophet Gad, that I love my Father enough, and I trust in His great mercy and wisdom, that I am going to let God make the choice of what shall happen to me. The point that is made here, is that no matter what has happened nor what the correction on the matter is; Don't cease loving and trusting God. You are always better off when God deals out the judgment for you know that the exact measure of punishment will be given, for our God is a just and merciful God.

I Chronicles 21:14 "So the Lord sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men."
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Wow all that and it's still BS. The fact remains, 'LORD' & 'SATAN' are interchangeable.

Christians worship SATAN, LMAO!!!

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