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bonghit
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puff puff give
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::passes bong::

I like the discussion, but I often wonder if we just exist as we see it. No other anything, just bits of matter and energy in existence.
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When I was with a psychiatrist in Argentina we starting talking and he mentioned Stephen Hawking. I said to him that, by coincidence, the night before I nearly decided to send him a letter saying that a continuous line could not exist because it was a collection of dots being universes etc etc. That afternoon I was given a book, H G Wells, The time machine. Look at page one or page two, it had the exact definition that I was using!!!!!!!!!!!
As always, Septenary, you are a genius.
hf
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bonghit
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puff puff give
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::passes bong::

I like the discussion, but I often wonder if we just exist as we see it. No other anything, just bits of matter and energy in existence.
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It kind of is that way, as everything we experience is all part of our own personal perception. With imagination we eventually develop new ways to advance (or detract sometimes) our perceptual awareness.
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When I was with a psychiatrist in Argentina we starting talking and he mentioned Stephen Hawking. I said to him that, by coincidence, the night before I nearly decided to send him a letter saying that a continuous line could not exist because it was a collection of dots being universes etc etc. That afternoon I was given a book, H G Wells, The time machine. Look at page one or page two, it had the exact definition that I was using!!!!!!!!!!!
As always, Septenary, you are a genius.
hf
 Quoting: completejigsaw


Hey Stephen! We discussed something very similar on aether's thread earlier in the week.

What we were working out is if you break something down - say cut it in half - it would seem that you could do it until you find the smallest particle in the universe. When they did this (atom smashers), they discovered that at a certain point what they were breaking apart wasn't particles, but forms of energy waves.

Basically, it was down to the quantum at that point, where they observe 'energies' that behave as both waves and particles, that can defy the speed of light (nonlocality, ie quantum entanglement), communicate, etc.

How can this be? My answer, because they are bordering on the non-material. Basically, they found the state where non-material is manifesting into material. The quantum 'soup' is partially manifested potential. Potential being the 'consciousness' of the non-material.
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In mathematics, the Klein bottle (pron.: /ˈklaɪn/) is an example of a non-orientable surface; informally, it is a surface (a two-dimensional manifold) in which notions of left and right cannot be consistently defined. Other related non-orientable objects include the Möbius strip and the real projective plane. Whereas a Möbius strip is a surface with boundary, a Klein bottle has no boundary (for comparison, a sphere is an orientable surface with no boundary).

The Klein bottle was first described in 1882 by the German mathematician Felix Klein.
 Quoting: Klein bottle

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Septenary Man


:kleinbottle:
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Very nice!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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The inside is the outside and the outside is the inside!

:rolleye:
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How can this be? My answer, because they are bordering on the non-material. Basically, they found the state where non-material is manifesting into material. The quantum 'soup' is partially manifested potential. Potential being the 'consciousness' of the non-material.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


so... would this then be the pre-holographic substrate? the aether in a 'neutral' spin-state?
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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The inside is the outside and the outside is the inside!

:rolleye:
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OK. I'll get back to you on that one.
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How can this be? My answer, because they are bordering on the non-material. Basically, they found the state where non-material is manifesting into material. The quantum 'soup' is partially manifested potential. Potential being the 'consciousness' of the non-material.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


so... would this then be the pre-holographic substrate? the aether in a 'neutral' spin-state?
 Quoting: genba


Close, I think.

Where we are at in the description gets very...complex. The reason why is we are entering territory that modern language has not derived a true lexicon for.

Because of this, I fall back to 'older' descriptions. The 'holographic substrate' is, if I am catching your meaning correctly, within all things. Both material and non-material. (The material is more understandable to us because our bodies perceive our waking world through our senses, which requires inputs of a physical nature in order to perceive through the 5 senses.)

Indra's Net is the substrate, as you call it. It is within and without everything, and is a form of singularity that cannot be observed, measured, defined, etc, as it is within and without everything. To put it briefly, you can imagine it as a blueprint base consciousness that structures everything. That base structure allows for complexity. Complexity becomes infinite diversity when within an infinite universe. This has been defined in other threads of mine.

...aether in a neural spin state...I do not know what you mean by that. When the aether is in motion, it is manifested potential, which is the physical universe. When it is not in motion, it is potential (dormant) charges of magnetism and electricity. It is without light, as light is movement. Again though, I would have to describe why light is movement.

Everything is 'light'. Movement allows us to perceive (see) the physical universe. Without movement, we cannot 'see' the light that makes up everything. This may seem bizarre, until you remember that there are multiple frequencies of light, the majority of which we cannot detect with the naked eye.
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hmm

What would you do if you saw the sphere, Sept?

....
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hmm

What would you do if you saw the sphere, Sept?

....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


It was used as a base analogy. The sphere is infinite, and nested within/without other spheres, as well as overlapped, and is gradient in nature. It forms spherical geometry which leads to synergize force lines that make-up sacred geometry.

In truth, the sphere is actually a torus constantly inverting and reverting influencing and being influenced by all other fields within another higher localized sphere. It is fractal.

If you want to 'see' a sphere, it is here, within the atom, and within organized molecules.

:firstatom:

Crap, the molecules is a Seer smiley and I don't know it.
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Pi, if you want to see the molecule, go to my website and scroll down to the very bottom.

[link to swingingonspirals.blogspot.com]
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Here is an artists visual of the complexities of the forms and actions we are discussing. Of course, this is artsy, but the complexity is apparent.

Thread: Universal Sphere Vortex Theory
I wanted to share these images. To me, they are absolutely beautiful. Some of them have a small caption. There are many more at the website where I found them.

Enjoy!
[link to kelemengabi.picturepush.com]


:helicalspheres:

Computational algorithm and the polygonal diagram pentagon-spheres, Levo-Dextrogyre and the dual tangent lattice module female-male with coordination of order 5.

:algorythmsymboli:

Symbolic and cultural algorithm and the anatomical diagram that explains the hierarchical relationship: sphere-Sun-eye-cone-spiral-outer/inner ear-iris-torus.

:algorythmnatural:

Natural physical algorithm, hexagonal standing wave type Flower of Life and polygonal diagram, successive stages.

:spherehelical:

Sphere packing helical Levogyre Dextrogyre square

:algo:

Blackhole

:spiralgrail:

Symbolic and cultural algorithm and the diagram sphere-spiral-tetrad-cross-goblet-vine-wheat seed and standing wave.

:helicalhexagon:

Computational algorithm illustrating polygonal diagram concentric Hexagon-spheres, Levo-Dextrogyre and module of double spiral lattice of galaxy type.

:algo2:

:spiraldiagrama:
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How can this be? My answer, because they are bordering on the non-material. Basically, they found the state where non-material is manifesting into material. The quantum 'soup' is partially manifested potential. Potential being the 'consciousness' of the non-material.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


so... would this then be the pre-holographic substrate? the aether in a 'neutral' spin-state?
 Quoting: genba


Close, I think.

Where we are at in the description gets very...complex. The reason why is we are entering territory that modern language has not derived a true lexicon for.

Because of this, I fall back to 'older' descriptions. The 'holographic substrate' is, if I am catching your meaning correctly, within all things. Both material and non-material. (The material is more understandable to us because our bodies perceive our waking world through our senses, which requires inputs of a physical nature in order to perceive through the 5 senses.)

Indra's Net is the substrate, as you call it. It is within and without everything, and is a form of singularity that cannot be observed, measured, defined, etc, as it is within and without everything. To put it briefly, you can imagine it as a blueprint base consciousness that structures everything. That base structure allows for complexity. Complexity becomes infinite diversity when within an infinite universe. This has been defined in other threads of mine.

...aether in a neural spin state...I do not know what you mean by that. When the aether is in motion, it is manifested potential, which is the physical universe. When it is not in motion, it is potential (dormant) charges of magnetism and electricity. It is without light, as light is movement. Again though, I would have to describe why light is movement.

Everything is 'light'. Movement allows us to perceive (see) the physical universe. Without movement, we cannot 'see' the light that makes up everything. This may seem bizarre, until you remember that there are multiple frequencies of light, the majority of which we cannot detect with the naked eye.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


yeah you pretty much got what i meant. it's hard enough to visualize this stuff.. then putting it into proper words makes that look easy.
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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Only one way to break through a veil with Six Sides


SEELE2


I am an artist at heart.



NGEWings



Imagine you have a knife, or blade

What would you make out of this ever spinning,

ever regenerating sphere?


IdaMind2

hmm


Here's my favourite idea


HagiaSophiaSnow




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Left Eye of Gematria

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I read, all these things, I watch all these things that are put on here. The truth is, that is all it is, something people have thought up and can't prove not one bit of it.

It is interest thought, if nothing else.
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I read, all these things, I watch all these things that are put on here. The truth is, that is all it is, something people have thought up and can't prove not one bit of it.

It is interest thought, if nothing else.
 Quoting: Daughter


Of course. Why do you think every scientific fact is classified as theory? Even scientific LAWS and CONSTANTS have proven to be false.

Scientists have proven that their laws are not laws, and their constants are not constant.

So, what is the point of your reply?
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I read, all these things, I watch all these things that are put on here. The truth is, that is all it is, something people have thought up and can't prove not one bit of it.

It is interest thought, if nothing else.
 Quoting: Daughter


Of course. Why do you think every scientific fact is classified as theory? Even scientific LAWS and CONSTANTS have proven to be false.

Scientists have proven that their laws are not laws, and their constants are not constant.

So, what is the point of your reply?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


i interpreted it, much like this post, as a bump

also i read her sig and did a double take and reread her post. charlie
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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[link to youtu.be]


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I read, all these things, I watch all these things that are put on here. The truth is, that is all it is, something people have thought up and can't prove not one bit of it.

It is interest thought, if nothing else.
 Quoting: Daughter


Of course. Why do you think every scientific fact is classified as theory? Even scientific LAWS and CONSTANTS have proven to be false.

Scientists have proven that their laws are not laws, and their constants are not constant.

So, what is the point of your reply?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Someday Once said: It's all in the relationship.

Mutable and dynamic while following an invariable order.
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very good bro

that's what i like about you the most, you are always moving forward, learning and growing with your knowledge then giving it to others very commendable...

so take and draw a sine wave then in-between the spaces draw crosses

you now have the key to time and space

when you break it

you will know instantly

good luck
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I read, all these things, I watch all these things that are put on here. The truth is, that is all it is, something people have thought up and can't prove not one bit of it.

It is interest thought, if nothing else.
 Quoting: Daughter


Of course. Why do you think every scientific fact is classified as theory? Even scientific LAWS and CONSTANTS have proven to be false.

Scientists have proven that their laws are not laws, and their constants are not constant.

So, what is the point of your reply?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Someday Once said: It's all in the relationship.

Mutable and dynamic while following an invariable order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


agree
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very good bro

that's what i like about you the most, you are always moving forward, learning and growing with your knowledge then giving it to others very commendable...

so take and draw a sine wave then in-between the spaces draw crosses

you now have the key to time and space

when you break it

you will know instantly

good luck
 Quoting: bass ack words 37737748


Thank you. I'll think about that sine wave with cross. Makes sense to me.
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Hey there genius, I'm baffled, but give me some time!

Fractally yours. :0).

:fractals 33:
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Hey there genius, I'm baffled, but give me some time!

Fractally yours. :0).

:fractals 33:
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;)
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very good bro

that's what i like about you the most, you are always moving forward, learning and growing with your knowledge then giving it to others very commendable...

so take and draw a sine wave then in-between the spaces draw crosses

you now have the key to time and space

when you break it

you will know instantly

good luck
 Quoting: bass ack words 37737748


Following this line of thought, I found this.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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:boobbump:
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My brain hurts.
 Quoting: Tess2012

Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
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My brain hurts.
 Quoting: Tess2012

 Quoting: Balloons


verysad

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