How to Survive Cancer and the Truth about AIDS w/ Dr. Lorraine Day | |
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SheldonReturns User ID: 35258768 United Kingdom 04/12/2013 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.quackwatch.org] One way to judge whether a story is accurate is to see whether it is internally consistent. Day's story is not. She states that her cancer grew from marble to grapefruit size in about three weeks—and her video shows a mass in the front of her chest. (It might be interesting to know why she videotaped it.) Then, she says, she proceeded to do 40 "alternative" treatments, one after the other, until she could tell whether each one worked. How long did it take to try these out? What happened to the tumor size during this period? She said the tumor became painful and was so heavy that she had to support it with her hand when she walked. The allegedly tumorous area in the video does not appear large enough to fit this description. Did the tumor continue to grow at an extremely rapid rate? If it enlarged and she intended to document what happened, why doesn't she show subsequent videotapes? Did she actually have a tumor recurrence, or was the swelling she displays in her video merely a large benign cyst (walled-off collection of fluid) or swelling due to inflammation? Day says that when the tumor recurred, the cancer had spread to the lymph nodes under her arm and in her neck. Yet she describes no further medical care at that time. How could she know whether she her lymph nodes were cancerous without obtaining a biopsy? If she had a lymph-node biopsy, why hasn't she posted a pathology report showing that she had cancerous nodes? Day says that as her condition worsened, she developed Parkinson's disease; multiple sclerosis; Reynaud's syndrome; allergies to all but three foods; and severe anxiety and depression. How likely do you think it is to develop four significant unrelated illnesses in a short period of time? Do you think it is possible to be allergic to all but three foods? (I don't, because many foods never cause allergic reactions.) Do you think it is likely that eating other foods could produce an allergy so severe that the person would collapse and require oxygen? I don't. Anaphylatic shock is a severe allergic condition in which the person has great difficulty breathing. But the appropriate treatment would be adrenalin, not oxygen. It could also be asked why she happened to keep oxygen handy and why, if it were critical, she didn't die the first time she had one of her "allergic" reactions. Is it possible that her "allergic" symptoms were merely anxiety attacks that included rapid breathing (hyperventilation)? She states that she became bedridden for months and implies that this was the result of her cancer. It seems to me that severe depression and possibly malnutrition were more likely to be responsible. She then says that over a year she "continued to get worse" and the pain got so unbearable that she had further surgery. I assume she means worse than when she had the serious ailments described above. Is that possible? She does not describe the surgery in detail and does not provide documentation of what happened. Why doesn't she post her pathology report for this third operation? What about her pain management? Why did she delay surgery that she thought could relieve her pain? She says at the beginning that her pain was so unbearable that "even the strongest narcotic couldn't help." She says elsewhere that she did not want medical care because doctors rely on drugs and drugs cause cancer. Yet she apparently took "the strongest narcotics" and did not explore other pain-relief measures such as injections that might deaden the nerves that deliver the pain. She expresses antagonism about cancer surgery that she regards as mutilating. Yet she delayed seeking a minor operation that would not only relieve her pain but would also improve the appearance of her chest. Her willingness to suffer for years rather than seek timely medical care strikes me as extraordinarily poor judgment. Day states that after slowly recovering from what she describes as near death, she apparently decided that she had found the answer to cancer and began marketing her insights to the world. She apparently believes that her single experience entitles her to declare that virtually everyone who does what she recommends will be helped. And she apparently believes that it is appropriate to tell people that medical treatment has never succeeded in curing cancer. These claims are absurd, but people who are frightened, possibly desperate, and uncertain what to do might decide to follow her advice instead of getting proven care. Day acknowledges these feelings, states that she has been there herself, and offers an alternative to chemotherapy, radiation, and "mutilating surgery." This message can be very powerful because when people feel "understood," they are prone to believe what they are told. |
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giggles User ID: 37817046 United States 04/12/2013 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.quackwatch.org] Quoting: SheldonReturns One way to judge whether a story is accurate is to see whether it is internally consistent. Day's story is not. She states that her cancer grew from marble to grapefruit size in about three weeks—and her video shows a mass in the front of her chest. (It might be interesting to know why she videotaped it.) Then, she says, she proceeded to do 40 "alternative" treatments, one after the other, until she could tell whether each one worked. How long did it take to try these out? What happened to the tumor size during this period? She said the tumor became painful and was so heavy that she had to support it with her hand when she walked. The allegedly tumorous area in the video does not appear large enough to fit this description. Did the tumor continue to grow at an extremely rapid rate? If it enlarged and she intended to document what happened, why doesn't she show subsequent videotapes? Did she actually have a tumor recurrence, or was the swelling she displays in her video merely a large benign cyst (walled-off collection of fluid) or swelling due to inflammation? Day says that when the tumor recurred, the cancer had spread to the lymph nodes under her arm and in her neck. Yet she describes no further medical care at that time. How could she know whether she her lymph nodes were cancerous without obtaining a biopsy? If she had a lymph-node biopsy, why hasn't she posted a pathology report showing that she had cancerous nodes? Day says that as her condition worsened, she developed Parkinson's disease; multiple sclerosis; Reynaud's syndrome; allergies to all but three foods; and severe anxiety and depression. How likely do you think it is to develop four significant unrelated illnesses in a short period of time? Do you think it is possible to be allergic to all but three foods? (I don't, because many foods never cause allergic reactions.) Do you think it is likely that eating other foods could produce an allergy so severe that the person would collapse and require oxygen? I don't. Anaphylatic shock is a severe allergic condition in which the person has great difficulty breathing. But the appropriate treatment would be adrenalin, not oxygen. It could also be asked why she happened to keep oxygen handy and why, if it were critical, she didn't die the first time she had one of her "allergic" reactions. Is it possible that her "allergic" symptoms were merely anxiety attacks that included rapid breathing (hyperventilation)? She states that she became bedridden for months and implies that this was the result of her cancer. It seems to me that severe depression and possibly malnutrition were more likely to be responsible. She then says that over a year she "continued to get worse" and the pain got so unbearable that she had further surgery. I assume she means worse than when she had the serious ailments described above. Is that possible? She does not describe the surgery in detail and does not provide documentation of what happened. Why doesn't she post her pathology report for this third operation? What about her pain management? Why did she delay surgery that she thought could relieve her pain? She says at the beginning that her pain was so unbearable that "even the strongest narcotic couldn't help." She says elsewhere that she did not want medical care because doctors rely on drugs and drugs cause cancer. Yet she apparently took "the strongest narcotics" and did not explore other pain-relief measures such as injections that might deaden the nerves that deliver the pain. She expresses antagonism about cancer surgery that she regards as mutilating. Yet she delayed seeking a minor operation that would not only relieve her pain but would also improve the appearance of her chest. Her willingness to suffer for years rather than seek timely medical care strikes me as extraordinarily poor judgment. Day states that after slowly recovering from what she describes as near death, she apparently decided that she had found the answer to cancer and began marketing her insights to the world. She apparently believes that her single experience entitles her to declare that virtually everyone who does what she recommends will be helped. And she apparently believes that it is appropriate to tell people that medical treatment has never succeeded in curing cancer. These claims are absurd, but people who are frightened, possibly desperate, and uncertain what to do might decide to follow her advice instead of getting proven care. Day acknowledges these feelings, states that she has been there herself, and offers an alternative to chemotherapy, radiation, and "mutilating surgery." This message can be very powerful because when people feel "understood," they are prone to believe what they are told. Even if that's true, the stuff she talks about in this video is more or less common sense. She's not the first or only one to have these conclusions. giggles |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37872036 New Zealand 04/12/2013 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Almost anything is worth a go as current treatments, chemo, etc. will most assuredly kill you. Quoting: geminilion How many people have you known that gave done the chemo, radation route and then go into remission....only to die a few months later. That chemo and radiation saved my life at the ripe old age of 20. And it's been 18 years. so not all main stream medicine is evil. I thank God for my oncologist and the chemo and radiation! chemo works in 3% of cases you could have just as easily had a spontaneous remission or even a misdiagnosis (common in the cancer industry--as cancer is not a light switch, it is a scale) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1103018 United Kingdom 04/12/2013 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somewhere along the lines of .. "No disease was ever a deficiency of cannabis oil, so it will not cure cancer." With the advent of antibiotics many fatal diseases were cured this is scientific fact. See her BS now? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37923923 United Kingdom 04/12/2013 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Person445 ... Much of Dr. Day's research is freely available through her website: www.drday.com Yet the medical records she relies on are the same ones she wont make public. She was cured using the same drugs and surgery she claims dont work. Where does she "deny the holocaust?" Do 5 minutes of research on her and her great friendship with Ernst Zundel. Excellent! She is a friend of Zundel? I like her much more, now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37407813 United Kingdom 04/12/2013 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Much of Dr. Day's research is freely available through her website: www.drday.com see your unwillingness to simply tell that poster what they wanted with a couple of lines tells me you know your case is week, so I guess I'm stuck with tumeric B17 and liposomal bit c,thanks for nothing. My Beck/Clarke zapper will have to do for the moment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6194097 United States 04/12/2013 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Avoiding AIDS is simple, just don't fuck queers, drug addicts, or Negroes, or anyone that fucks them... Quoting: BRIEF You really need to read Nancy Padian's paper on the seroconversion rates (or lack of them) Brief. Google "the padian waffle" it should be most illuminating. As for queers, it is actually very rare outside of the "fasttrack lifestyle" to get AIDS. HIV poz means ljttle, or there would be skyrocketing cases of married women contractin( it from their DL husbands. |
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Person445 (OP) User ID: 11438968 Canada 04/12/2013 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Much of Dr. Day's research is freely available through her website: www.drday.com see your unwillingness to simply tell that poster what they wanted with a couple of lines tells me you know your case is week, so I guess I'm stuck with tumeric B17 and liposomal bit c,thanks for nothing. My Beck/Clarke zapper will have to do for the moment. It's a 50+minute interview with a lot of information. I have done the work already of booking the guest and conducting the interview. As for the Hulda Regeer Clark zapper, I asked about that specifically around the 45 min mark. I'm not making any case, Dr. Lorraine Day is. Follow me on Twitter: @RussellScott202 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34076048 United States 04/12/2013 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Almost anything is worth a go as current treatments, chemo, etc. will most assuredly kill you. Quoting: geminilion How many people have you known that gave done the chemo, radation route and then go into remission....only to die a few months later. That chemo and radiation saved my life at the ripe old age of 20. And it's been 18 years. so not all main stream medicine is evil. I thank God for my oncologist and the chemo and radiation! chemo works in 3% of cases you could have just as easily had a spontaneous remission or even a misdiagnosis (common in the cancer industry--as cancer is not a light switch, it is a scale) Unfucking believable! You are going to sit there and tell me my cancer wasn't real? And also tell me that the treatments didn't work? Fucking imbecile....if we were face to face...Guaranteed. And let you beg for modern medicine. I just love how sniveling little shits can sit behind their anonymity online and shit like you did. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1103018 United Kingdom 04/12/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Much of Dr. Day's research is freely available through her website: www.drday.com see your unwillingness to simply tell that poster what they wanted with a couple of lines tells me you know your case is week, so I guess I'm stuck with tumeric B17 and liposomal bit c,thanks for nothing. My Beck/Clarke zapper will have to do for the moment. Google 714x |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 969944 United States 04/12/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not knocking her or what she is saying but I found this page on her. I guess we all have to just make up our own minds [link to www.quackwatch.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507912 United States 04/12/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Much of Dr. Day's research is freely available through her website: www.drday.com Yet the medical records she relies on are the same ones she wont make public. She was cured using the same drugs and surgery she claims dont work. I have Old medical book, that it is in, even urine, used to treat cancer! All the reference material, is mentioned in the book, so you are wrong! Food was mentioned, too! This book was written a long time ago, it had many printings, some of the best research hospitals of the time wrote it. They had just started pharmaceuticals at the time. It even had treatment for animals in it! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1103018 United Kingdom 04/12/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not knocking her or what she is saying but I found this page on her. I guess we all have to just make up our own minds Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969944 [link to www.quackwatch.org] The truth probably lies somewhere in between. [link to en.wikipedia.org] I looked into some of the posts on that site about Laetrile and it was full of errors. |
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