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Is Cannabis use (any) a sin?

 
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Is Cannabis use (any) a sin?
Arguments for?
Arguments against?

Extra points for using scripture.
I do believe it's time we got to the core of the issue.

Last Edited by Occasionally Swears on 04/12/2013 09:21 PM
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
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James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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If it is, I'm busting hell wide open!..Probably get a supervisors position too!
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All the good parties will be at hell.

Nuff said.
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Gen 1:29

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
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All the good parties will be at hell.

Nuff said.
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What makes you certain of this?
Can you provide proof that there will indeed be 'good parties' at hell?
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
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James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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I'm all for decriminalization of weed. I used it multiple times daily in college. I would love to be able to come home from work and take a couple hits to relax.

I think anything that you do to your body that is harmful is technically considered a sin. Something about your body being a temple, not sure the exact quote.

That being the case...eating junk food and getting a tattoo is a sin. Drinking soda and not exercising is a sin. Really the only thing that probably wouldn't be considered a sin under that logic is eating organic food and exercising.

Really makes things complicated when you look at it through that lens.

ETA>>>Even breathing the pollution in the air would be considered a sin I guess
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

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All the good parties will be at hell.

Nuff said.
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What makes you certain of this?
Can you provide proof that there will indeed be 'good parties' at hell?
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Can you provide proof that there won't? Shit works both ways...
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an old favorite of mine...

man made whiskey God made pot
God is perfect man is not
pot is natural grows from the ground
if God didn't want it
it wouldn't be around
so all u rednecks who want to get high
light up a joint and give weed a try

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no, unless abused


1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
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I'm all for decriminalization of weed. I used it multiple times daily in college. I would love to be able to come home from work and take a couple hits to relax.

I think anything that you do to your body that is harmful is technically considered a sin. Something about your body being a temple, not sure the exact quote.

That being the case...eating junk food and getting a tattoo is a sin. Drinking soda and not exercising is a sin. Really the only thing that probably wouldn't be considered a sin under that logic is eating organic food and exercising.

Really makes things complicated when you look at it through that lens.

ETA>>>Even breathing the pollution in the air would be considered a sin I guess
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Yep, and what did they do in the temple?
They burned incense. It represents the prayer of the saints.

So, the very scripture that it used to claim that 'smoking' is bad , is actually the best argument FOR 'smoking'.
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no, unless abused


1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
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My husband has Huntington Disease and in Mt he had a card only thing slowed his movements and mood-it is pharmaceutical companies
that is a sin
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All the good parties will be at hell.

Nuff said.
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What makes you certain of this?
Can you provide proof that there will indeed be 'good parties' at hell?
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Can you provide proof that there won't? Shit works both ways...


Luke 16:19-31
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19 “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell[a] from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’

27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ 29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
-------------------------------------
James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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The Bible teaches us that “denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world” (Titus 2:12).

Beyond stewardship, as Christians, our bodies are not our own. We “have been bought with a price” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), not “with perishable things like silver or gold . . . but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ” (1 Peter 1:17-19). Having bought us with His own life, Christ has delighted to create in us something entirely new, something somewhat bizarre. By indwelling us with His Spirit, He has turned us into organic temples of sorts. So now, caring for our health is not just a matter of good stewardship. It is a matter of reverential piety. To pollute or harm our bodies is to desecrate the House of God (1 Corinthians 3:16-17). This is both wondrous and terrifying.


To begin with, Christians are under a universal mandate to respect and obey the laws of the land (Deuteronomy 17:2; Ecclesiastes 8:2-5; Matthew 22:21; 23:2-3; Romans 13:1-7; Titus 3:1; 1 Peter 2:13-17; 2 Peter 2:9-11). The ONLY instance in which we are allowed to disobey the laws of the land is when the laws violate any divine imperatives (Daniel 3 and 6; Acts 5:29). There are no other exceptions to this rule. Contrary to popular belief, simply disagreeing with a law does not constitute a license for breaking that law.

A few pieces of a story from a christian answers website. Hope it helps.
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The Bible teaches us that “denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world” (Titus 2:12).

Beyond stewardship, as Christians, our bodies are not our own. We “have been bought with a price” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), not “with perishable things like silver or gold . . . but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ” (1 Peter 1:17-19). Having bought us with His own life, Christ has delighted to create in us something entirely new, something somewhat bizarre. By indwelling us with His Spirit, He has turned us into organic temples of sorts. So now, caring for our health is not just a matter of good stewardship. It is a matter of reverential piety. To pollute or harm our bodies is to desecrate the House of God (1 Corinthians 3:16-17). This is both wondrous and terrifying.


To begin with, Christians are under a universal mandate to respect and obey the laws of the land (Deuteronomy 17:2; Ecclesiastes 8:2-5; Matthew 22:21; 23:2-3; Romans 13:1-7; Titus 3:1; 1 Peter 2:13-17; 2 Peter 2:9-11). The ONLY instance in which we are allowed to disobey the laws of the land is when the laws violate any divine imperatives (Daniel 3 and 6; Acts 5:29). There are no other exceptions to this rule. Contrary to popular belief, simply disagreeing with a law does not constitute a license for breaking that law.

A few pieces of a story from a christian answers website. Hope it helps.
 Quoting: Saltynoodle



You just used someone else's argument. I wanted to hear YOUR argument.
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
-------------------------------------
James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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All the good parties will be at hell.

Nuff said.
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Won't be if you're there.
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I roll good joints and play guitar like the gods.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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How does prayer boost you enjoyment of the world?

Rev.8
[3] And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
[4] And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
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Gen 1:29

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
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case closed.
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Only if it is used to harm someone. But I don't hear about many people beating others with a cannabis plant.

Because the way your question is, everyone uses it. Since it is a plant and it converts CO2 to Oxygen, and we all breath in air. So it you say to use cannabis is a sin then we are all going to hell for breathing.

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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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Are you saying that prayer is a fruitless activity?
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A sin? Moses got high, I mean he was talking to God through a "burning bush."
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If it feels like a sin in your heart, it probably is. I have a problem with addiction and used to smoke weed a lot. In my heart, I feel like it's a sin when I change my state of mind like this, especially when I binge and smoke all day. Here's some scripture that might help.

1 Peter 5:8-11

8 Be sober , be vigilant ; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about , seeking whom he may devour : 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. 10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while , make you perfect , stablish , strengthen , settle you. 11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
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How can it be a sin if god made it?? Read Genesis 1:29. Puff away sir puff away
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There are even christians who believe it is the tree of life mentioned in Revelations, the one that is to be the healing of the nations.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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How does prayer boost you enjoyment of the world?

Rev.8
[3] And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
[4] And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's


It's puts my mind at ease knowing that I'm just a human sinner trapped in this matrix and the heavenly father and Christ is the one that can save me and therefor the only thing that matters.
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I personally love weed, but it can definitely render a day useless to the Lord. When I start smoking I could easily spend the rest of my day doing trivial things. If you're not sure, pray about it. The Lord has a way of leading you to the truth.
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How can it be a sin if god made it?? Read Genesis 1:29. Puff away sir puff away
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Isn't there a passage in the book of Enoch about how the fallen angels taught men about drugs? I might be mistaken...
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If it feels like a sin in your heart, it probably is. I have a problem with addiction and used to smoke weed a lot. In my heart, I feel like it's a sin when I change my state of mind like this, especially when I binge and smoke all day. Here's some scripture that might help.

1 Peter 5:8-11

8 Be sober , be vigilant ; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about , seeking whom he may devour : 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. 10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while , make you perfect , stablish , strengthen , settle you. 11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
 Quoting: Luke25


All of your arguments are WEAK. You have villainized a plant that comprises TWO THIRDS of the ingredients of the Holy anointing oil. Next you will outlaw prayer, which is where this is leading. You use this LIE not only to imprison people unlawfully, but you also are starving the poor, denying the most nutritious plant on God's green earth.

You worship the Dragon.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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this ^^^^^



OP, use of pharmakeia is forbidden biblically and that includes all the pharmaceuticals and naturally growing psychoactives such as weed. Look it up.
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I personally love weed, but it can definitely render a day useless to the Lord. When I start smoking I could easily spend the rest of my day doing trivial things. If you're not sure, pray about it. The Lord has a way of leading you to the truth.
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It can be, but it's not the drugs fault. Personally when I smoke, I look around me and appreciate the gift that is life more. Every little thing seems so much more precious.
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All the good parties will be at hell.

Nuff said.
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That might be so but you will not be one of the party goers... you will be one of the snacks or toys of demons.

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