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Is Cannabis use (any) a sin?

 
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If it feels like a sin in your heart, it probably is. I have a problem with addiction and used to smoke weed a lot. In my heart, I feel like it's a sin when I change my state of mind like this, especially when I binge and smoke all day. Here's some scripture that might help.

1 Peter 5:8-11

8 Be sober , be vigilant ; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about , seeking whom he may devour : 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. 10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while , make you perfect , stablish , strengthen , settle you. 11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
 Quoting: Luke25


If you want to follow your heart, go ahead. You cannot follow scripture at the same time though.

Jeremiah 17
[9] The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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this ^^^^^



OP, use of pharmakeia is forbidden biblically and that includes all the pharmaceuticals and naturally growing psychoactives such as weed. Look it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120633




When I see Pharma, I see it as Pharmaceutical companies...
Y'know, the ones pumping out the trillions of pain pills, anti-depressants, etc. Prescription drugs are still drugs too...

Imho, I'd say the big Pharma is doing a tremendous amount more than a single plant ever could alone.
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
-------------------------------------
James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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Are you saying that prayer is a fruitless activity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37123239


Not at all


Prayer works

And god gives knowledge to those who seek it

Fruitless .... Many hobbies that do nothing but waste time and get us no where. These go hand n hand with weed. Who wants to be a high apathetic sheep? There is no shortage of those lol
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If it feels like a sin in your heart, it probably is. I have a problem with addiction and used to smoke weed a lot. In my heart, I feel like it's a sin when I change my state of mind like this, especially when I binge and smoke all day. Here's some scripture that might help.

1 Peter 5:8-11

8 Be sober , be vigilant ; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about , seeking whom he may devour : 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. 10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while , make you perfect , stablish , strengthen , settle you. 11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
 Quoting: Luke25


If you want to follow your heart, go ahead. You cannot follow scripture at the same time though.

Jeremiah 17
[9] The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

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Sober refers to a state of mind opposite of what?
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
-------------------------------------
James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936


this ^^^^^



OP, use of pharmakeia is forbidden biblically and that includes all the pharmaceuticals and naturally growing psychoactives such as weed. Look it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120633


How about YOU look it up and bring forth your witnesses so we can rebuke you.

What can't do that?
That is because you have cast God's word behind your back to go by what you FEEL in you wicked heart.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936


this ^^^^^



OP, use of pharmakeia is forbidden biblically and that includes all the pharmaceuticals and naturally growing psychoactives such as weed. Look it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120633




When I see Pharma, I see it as Pharmaceutical companies...
Y'know, the ones pumping out the trillions of pain pills, anti-depressants, etc. Prescription drugs are still drugs too...

Imho, I'd say the big Pharma is doing a tremendous amount more than a single plant ever could alone.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


it comes down to the same thing regardless if you use lab produced or naturally grown to alter your mental state outside of the true natural connection to God... any use of drugs is an open door to demonic infestation that seduces you slowly toward degeneracy... i like to burn a bud every now and then but i know deep down its wrong.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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this ^^^^^



OP, use of pharmakeia is forbidden biblically and that includes all the pharmaceuticals and naturally growing psychoactives such as weed. Look it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120633


How about YOU look it up and bring forth your witnesses so we can rebuke you.

What can't do that?
That is because you have cast God's word behind your back to go by what you FEEL in you wicked heart.
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you stoned and cant understand what i wrote? whatever dude.
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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Are you saying that prayer is a fruitless activity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37123239


Not at all


Prayer works

And god gives knowledge to those who seek it

Fruitless .... Many hobbies that do nothing but waste time and get us no where. These go hand n hand with weed. Who wants to be a high apathetic sheep? There is no shortage of those lol
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Yeah, gets you nowhere in a lost world...where you reside.
So is your preacher wasting time and going nowhere?

What does he do for a living?
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Anything that boost your enjoyment of the world and pulls you more into fruitless activities of the world takes you away from the father. I dunno how it ranks on the sin scale but it is not godly
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this ^^^^^



OP, use of pharmakeia is forbidden biblically and that includes all the pharmaceuticals and naturally growing psychoactives such as weed. Look it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120633


How about YOU look it up and bring forth your witnesses so we can rebuke you.

What can't do that?
That is because you have cast God's word behind your back to go by what you FEEL in you wicked heart.
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you stoned and cant understand what i wrote? whatever dude.
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No, I am not, actually. But if I was, I would still say the same thing.

Besides, how come I can 'render a reason' but you cannot?

I brought forth many biblical referrences backing me up.
Why can't you, DUDE?
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I personally love weed, but it can definitely render a day useless to the Lord. When I start smoking I could easily spend the rest of my day doing trivial things. If you're not sure, pray about it. The Lord has a way of leading you to the truth.
 Quoting: Luke25


It can be, but it's not the drugs fault. Personally when I smoke, I look around me and appreciate the gift that is life more. Every little thing seems so much more precious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527430


Jesus says we must be reborn in spirit to enter the kingdom of god. Born of the spirit not of the flesh. Not of this world. Therefore it's only a distraction from the truth that we belong to god and live to serve his glory not ours
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Remember, I'm trying to hash out thoughts, references and ideas.

Please try to cut back on the tension.
I understand that someone inevitably will disagree with something posted, but try to keep it level at least.

I personally love weed, but it can definitely render a day useless to the Lord. When I start smoking I could easily spend the rest of my day doing trivial things. If you're not sure, pray about it. The Lord has a way of leading you to the truth.
 Quoting: Luke25


It can be, but it's not the drugs fault. Personally when I smoke, I look around me and appreciate the gift that is life more. Every little thing seems so much more precious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527430


Jesus says we must be reborn in spirit to enter the kingdom of god. Born of the spirit not of the flesh. Not of this world. Therefore it's only a distraction from the truth that we belong to god and live to serve his glory not ours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936



Jhn 4:23-24

"But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
"God [is] Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."


If the usage of Cannabis does not interfere with how you worship God in spirit and in truth, why is it a distraction?

Last Edited by Occasionally Swears on 04/12/2013 10:10 PM
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
-------------------------------------
James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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This is all beside the point, actually.
The real robbery is the villainization of the hemp plant.

What is your reasons for outlawing it?
If you are indeed concerned about people getting high, why must you outlaw it?

It is because you are WICKED. You serve Satan and the 'Grand Dragon'. You murder by consent. You are of the destroyers of the earth.
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Remember, I'm trying to hash out thoughts, references and ideas.

Please try to cut back on the tension.
I understand that someone inevitably will disagree with something posted, but try to keep it level at least.

I personally love weed, but it can definitely render a day useless to the Lord. When I start smoking I could easily spend the rest of my day doing trivial things. If you're not sure, pray about it. The Lord has a way of leading you to the truth.
 Quoting: Luke25


It can be, but it's not the drugs fault. Personally when I smoke, I look around me and appreciate the gift that is life more. Every little thing seems so much more precious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527430


Jesus says we must be reborn in spirit to enter the kingdom of god. Born of the spirit not of the flesh. Not of this world. Therefore it's only a distraction from the truth that we belong to god and live to serve his glory not ours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936



Jhn 4:23-24

"But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
"God [is] Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."


If the usage of Cannabis does not interfere with how you worship God in spirit and in truth, why is it a distraction?
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Understood but why sugarcoat the truth? You wanted opinions... Do you not want to hear them now?
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Am I not entitled to my own opinion as well?
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

- Battle Hymn of the Republic
-------------------------------------
James 3:6-9

And the tongue [is] a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

But no man can tame the tongue. [It is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.
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Gen 1:29

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
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Ya.

Like smoking some thing God MADE is a sin. FRAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gen 1:29

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
[/quo

Exactly, thank you
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"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us"
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Remember, I'm trying to hash out thoughts, references and ideas.

Please try to cut back on the tension.
I understand that someone inevitably will disagree with something posted, but try to keep it level at least.

I personally love weed, but it can definitely render a day useless to the Lord. When I start smoking I could easily spend the rest of my day doing trivial things. If you're not sure, pray about it. The Lord has a way of leading you to the truth.
 Quoting: Luke25


It can be, but it's not the drugs fault. Personally when I smoke, I look around me and appreciate the gift that is life more. Every little thing seems so much more precious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527430


Jesus says we must be reborn in spirit to enter the kingdom of god. Born of the spirit not of the flesh. Not of this world. Therefore it's only a distraction from the truth that we belong to god and live to serve his glory not ours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936



Jhn 4:23-24

"But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
"God [is] Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."


If the usage of Cannabis does not interfere with how you worship God in spirit and in truth, why is it a distraction?
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Understood but why sugarcoat the truth? You wanted opinions... Do you not want to hear them now?

Well as others have stated. We must be sober and vigilant because of the devil. In Ephesians u can find info about being sober and obtaining the spiritual armor of god that protects us from the devils attacks. And may I add control. Fallen angel control of our minds
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Am I not entitled to my own opinion as well?
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No you are not. Not if it means children must starve for you to have your opinion.

At least God is not going to put up with that.
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this ^^^^^



OP, use of pharmakeia is forbidden biblically and that includes all the pharmaceuticals and naturally growing psychoactives such as weed. Look it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120633


How about YOU look it up and bring forth your witnesses so we can rebuke you.

What can't do that?
That is because you have cast God's word behind your back to go by what you FEEL in you wicked heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37123239


you stoned and cant understand what i wrote? whatever dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120633


No, I am not, actually. But if I was, I would still say the same thing.

Besides, how come I can 'render a reason' but you cannot?

I brought forth many biblical referrences backing me up.
Why can't you, DUDE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37123239



then reason this all you want


Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft (pharmakeia), hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

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I won't be using scripture or anything like that, but I'd just like to say that it is such an amazing plant that treats so many things why wouldn't it be a gift from God?
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Gen 1:29

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
 Quoting: Jasper


Ya.

Like smoking some thing God MADE is a sin. FRAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37376769


Not if you are high and out of your head. Be not drunk on the wine.
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So is this just about smoking it or any use at all? Because the conversation has when to just smoking.
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Gen 1:29

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
[/quo

Exactly, thank you
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LOL, one thing is to eat and whole another to burn into your body temple with an intent of escapism.
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I won't be using scripture or anything like that, but I'd just like to say that it is such an amazing plant that treats so many things why wouldn't it be a gift from God?
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Doesn't mean to smoke it and get high. Use it to build things and make clothes. The bible didn't say don't use hemp
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Gen 1:29

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
[/quo

Exactly, thank you
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 Quoting: Jasper


LOL, one thing is to eat and whole another to burn into your body temple with an intent of escapism.
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Well said. Escapism. Same as getting drunk
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Remember, I'm trying to hash out thoughts, references and ideas.

Please try to cut back on the tension.
I understand that someone inevitably will disagree with something posted, but try to keep it level at least.

...


It can be, but it's not the drugs fault. Personally when I smoke, I look around me and appreciate the gift that is life more. Every little thing seems so much more precious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527430


Jesus says we must be reborn in spirit to enter the kingdom of god. Born of the spirit not of the flesh. Not of this world. Therefore it's only a distraction from the truth that we belong to god and live to serve his glory not ours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936



Jhn 4:23-24

"But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
"God [is] Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."


If the usage of Cannabis does not interfere with how you worship God in spirit and in truth, why is it a distraction?
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Understood but why sugarcoat the truth? You wanted opinions... Do you not want to hear them now?

Well as others have stated. We must be sober and vigilant because of the devil. In Ephesians u can find info about being sober and obtaining the spiritual armor of god that protects us from the devils attacks. And may I add control. Fallen angel control of our minds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936


Did you know that Michael the Archangel is known, by the Catholic Church, as the protector of the temple spices/incense?

The bible clearly states that he is the protector of the children of God.

You won't deceive him. You won't get away with your scam to starve out the meek of the earth.
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Gen 1:29

Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;
[/quo

Exactly, thank you
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 Quoting: Jasper


LOL, one thing is to eat and whole another to burn into your body temple with an intent of escapism.
 Quoting: paul777


Well said. Escapism. Same as getting drunk
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WELL, WELL, WELL.

There you go, boys and girls. They just admitted that they are using this as a means to ENTRAP mens souls.

They don't want you to escape their trap.

THE LORD REBUKE THE SATAN.
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Wake up people get your head out of your ass. Is smoking weed a sin. Do you realize how retarded that sounds. Live a good life do not hurt people. Be honest and do unto others as you would yourself. Wow I am speechless
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They used to put lbs of ganja in holy anointing oil. So potent that when it was poured on your head you hallucinated. Which explains alot!!!!
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Remember, I'm trying to hash out thoughts, references and ideas.

Please try to cut back on the tension.
I understand that someone inevitably will disagree with something posted, but try to keep it level at least.

...


Jesus says we must be reborn in spirit to enter the kingdom of god. Born of the spirit not of the flesh. Not of this world. Therefore it's only a distraction from the truth that we belong to god and live to serve his glory not ours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936



Jhn 4:23-24

"But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
"God [is] Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."


If the usage of Cannabis does not interfere with how you worship God in spirit and in truth, why is it a distraction?
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Understood but why sugarcoat the truth? You wanted opinions... Do you not want to hear them now?

Well as others have stated. We must be sober and vigilant because of the devil. In Ephesians u can find info about being sober and obtaining the spiritual armor of god that protects us from the devils attacks. And may I add control. Fallen angel control of our minds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688936


Did you know that Michael the Archangel is known, by the Catholic Church, as the protector of the temple spices/incense?

The bible clearly states that he is the protector of the children of God.

You won't deceive him. You won't get away with your scam to starve out the meek of the earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37123239



Catholics.


The most high dwelleth not in a temple made by hands. The temple he dwells in is in us.

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