***Very Important Information: How you will know when they will begin confiscating 401 K's, Pensions, Bank Accounts, and PM's!!

They dont need the money. They can simply print it. They hijacked our printing press. This isn't some other country sizing up their currency against the dollar. This is the USA, home of the dollar. "They" are called the Federal Reserve.

If they go through the trouble to take all our cash, which would be foolish when you can simply crash the system, their only intention would be to....collapse the Americans.

When the time comes to collapse, they need a few more things in place. 1) Their under ground bunkers ready to retreat to 2) The UN on invasion standby.

We are at the end of the 100 year plan to destroy the Americans. Will we falter? I don't believe so. In fact, we will be victorious.

Keep your faith in God, study John and Revelations...or fail.

using the words "market, and value" with the word "gold" rattled my brain, so i must say this: gold IS the "market". Gold IS the "value".

People are numbed and dumbed down to not be able to understand gold, and one day itis going to hit and hit like a ton of bricks.

The lust of gold will one day break loose.

How the House of Rothschild Destroyed the WORLD:
[link to 911wasahoax.blogspot.com]

Ron Parsley:
[link to www.youtube.com]

Haggai 2:8:
The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.

Yes OP, this is how they will do it, so it looks like they will do it soon. But it is not about taking our money at all. Money is nothing. They want to take our freedom and they want to take our land, or more correctly, their land. This way they will be the overloards and we will be the slaves. It is always the system that follows the collapse of freedom, slavery. Slavery has many advantages over freedom as it allows the masters to thin out the useless eater and keep around only the artisans that keep them in luxury and of course some nice breeding stock. Sonn, soon...

Bascially when the dinar revalues folks will be going to the banks to exchange their Iraqi dinar for dollars. The US will collect the dinar and use them to purchase oil. Then the government will be able to purchase oil at a cheaper rate - but who knows how that will play out at the gas pump. Recently in the news there was a story about Obama wanting gas to up to $10 a gallon. Taxes that were being collected on gas have gone down with electric cars and more people conserving gas by not traveling as much. So much of this is rigged from behind the scenes that it's difficult to know in advance what will happen until it does happen.

However, Iraqi dinar can still be purchased for $980 PER MILLION DINAR at [link to www.gidassociates.com] until the new rate goes international. Some think this will happen next week. Having been invested in this we've heard that tale before. Could be next week... next year even, but given all the news coming out sooner is more likely.

People who have followed the Bush Cartel shenanigans know this is what they did with Kuwait. Invade. Devalue their money to pennies on the dollar. Purchase huge sums of devalued dinar. Later revalue the currency at a higher rate - cash it in for US dollars making billions. Only with Kuwait... the average person had no clue this was how the Bushes along with their cronies were making billions.

The fiscal issues are huge and complex. We all have learned that the value of fiat money is next to nothing just by looking at the price of gold back in the 60s where an ounce could be purchased for $35.

One ounce of gold was fixed at an estimated $20.67 US Dollars (USD) for many decades until 1934, at which point the price was raised to about $35 USD per ounce. In 1968, a two-tiered pricing structure was established, and by 1975 the price of gold was allowed to fluctuate. [link to www.wisegeek.com]

In today's market $1477 and dropping. which is great even for those of us who purchase it when it was $1600 + because it just means time to purchase more at the cheaper rate. When I purchased gold in the '97 it was $331.29. By holding onto the gold it went way up in value as a solid hedge against inflation. Basically, gold will go up again given what's going on in the world.

The Iraqi Dinar's value is based against their commody of oil and they are the richest nation in the mid-east when it comes to their oil reserve. Meaning their money has value once it is revalued and will also become an international currency. Basically they are looking to use Iraqi dinar instead of US petro dollars to do business with other nations. China, Argentina, Russia, Australia are all working to get away from the petro US dollar and are making agreements to trade in their own currency. Currently the US can print money endlessly but it's value will continue to decline unless they can back it with a commody like gold or oil. This is why the Chinese yuan has gone up against the US dollar - because they are working to back their currency with gold.

The other thing that people are clueless about is how gold is used in nano-technology. Given what will be happening with technology (another boom is about to happen) precious metals value will increase.


What Do The Rich Do With Their Cash?

If you are specifically interested in what the rich do with their short-term cash, comparable to the middle class putting money in a checking or savings account, there are several popular alternatives to those with at least a few million dollars:

Establishing a so-called zero-balance account. The rich investor has his or her money in bonds, certificates of deposit, commercial paper and other highly liquid debt instruments. They write checks out of the account, which has $0 in it, and at the end of the business day, the private bank sells off enough of the highly stable, liquid investments to wipe out the negative balance in the account, bringing it back to $0. That way, if the bank fails, it doesn’t hurt the investor because the underlying assets are held in his or her name, not the name of the institution. (This service is known as custody or, in some cases, global custody. The banks will charge a small fee for it as a percentage of assets in most cases.) Almost every intelligent rich person on the planet uses some form of global custody because you don’t want to worry about losing your shirt because a broker failed.

Parking the money directly with the United States Treasury in an account backed by the taxing power of the United States government. They can buy short-term Treasury bills and keep rolling them over until they need the money. Unless the United States goes bankrupt by hyper-inflating, they are safe. Buffett literally has tens of billions of dollars of Berkshire Hathaway’s money parked in Treasury bills, bonds and notes at times. There is no risk of default or bankruptcy unless the entire nation goes bust!

Last Edited by Proud American Supporter on 04/13/2013 09:10 PM

sadly americans are bought off succk wads

yes

and this is how it will be done:

Now See USA's Future

Johannesburg:
[link to endzog.wordpress.com]

"Jewish White Genocide Captured On Google Street View":
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Obama: “I will never waver from supporting Israel"
“Jews Reveal Their Plans For The World”:
[link to trutube.tv]

Jews and White Genocide:
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

DC Post
Busting out all over: Black mob violence:
[link to thedcpost.com]

Found here:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

What is a PM?

Call it a "haircut" call it confiscation, and way you slice it it is plain old fashioned theft. So call it the death warrant for all politicians and bankers. Steal from the US public? Always! : taxes, fines, licence fees, any old excuse to run their grubby hands down in your pants...but
you know what happens to a thief who confronts you and outright steals your money? BANG! right between the eyes.

this is why our forefathers warned us not to let tthe damned lawyers in the country...they weasel into the corn-bins and silos a few at a time until you have a complete epidemic of the vermin and have to burn the whole place down to kill them all. If that's what it takes....sign me up.

i invested all my money in guns, high capacity magazines, and ammunition. come try to confiscate my account, be forewarned all confiscations will occur at several thousand FPS.

Well, even without firearms keep in mind that when they come for you to steal your land and your children....they WILL burn! A little gas, a nice sized bottle, the right sized rag, yes - light em up. After all they will burn in hell afterwards, why not do a little pre-heating?

And today.

we will be so busy fighting for our lives with the feral hoards from Africa and Mexico, wewillnot be able to give any attention to the robbers in our banks.

We will come out of it bloody and broke, but wewill come out of it

OH YEAH! The United States Of America is in fact a Christian Nation:
[link to paminifarm.jeeran.com]

I have always wondered if 401k's were a scam. They get all the working class people to put money into an account then every so often crash it so what used to be be $60,000 is now worth $45,000. Where does the $15,000 go?

why do you believe this when no one else does.just asking

He doesn't. He's a shill.

as a farmer i would say: after you fleece:sheep:you take it to the market to sell (to make cash money on it)

im not a shill

I believe that you are almost spot on.
I think it will start when the total amout of debt that
the Fed has bought equals the total value of all IRA-401K-SEPP
and then it will happen, as the FED will not lose a dime.
That's the reason they have no problem being the largest debt holder. My guess around 6 Trillion in debt and then all retirement will be swaped for bonds

BASSTURDS !!!

Sounded good until you underestimated the amounts....see my posts above about the FDIC.

Your guess is off by about 10 Trillion...

OK so they take 401K's, Retirement accounts etc.

What about just a plain old Scottrade or ETrade investment account?

Great post
We can turn the money changers tables over in little ways : Buy local
Read labels before buying. Eg never buy from monsanto etc
This would be a great glp thread:
Blessings

I think this is the most wise post on the entire thread. Yea, I've been ranting along, but this makes the most sense.

there is one thing that may help, and that is:

"Donot put all your eggs in one basket".

Now with everything being "global", that now means in one Nation.

If i were Queen i would put some banking in Arabia, China and there is an Asian Country that everyone is trusting (forget the name), and that sort of thing. The white Christian nations are under attack, so that is out.

Watch all the stock markets all around the World to see who is healthy and who isnot.

The House of Rothschild (Alias The Federal Reserve Bank) has been putting our stolen money into India, their next bitch after they wipe us out, and/or, since our continent will be totally destroyed, theyare also opening up the entirety of the Africa continent.

Here is some info. on what is going on in Aftrica as far as investment possibilities:

You have to use your imagination, because Africa is in its infancy (virginal):

Johannesburg:
[link to endzog.wordpress.com]

"Jewish White Genocide Captured On Google Street View":
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Obama: “I will never waver from supporting Israel"
“Jews Reveal Their Plans For The World”:
[link to trutube.tv]

Jews and White Genocide:
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

DC Post
Busting out all over: Black mob violence:
[link to thedcpost.com]

...don't assume sense or import..who is "they" ?...why would confiscating equities help anyone? Stocks and bonds are not currency. So if "They" took your 401k(s),"they" would have to SELL them..who would buy? If done on a large enough scale, the markets would dive in a massive sell off, thereby killing that "Markets High" theory. You do know a stocks worth it whatever it will be bought for NOW, not yesterday's high. if hundred's of billions were stolen, I think the purchase might be hampered. Did you bother to think this thru? Do you have ANY understanding of markets? This is NOT important information, this is poor gloom & doom speculation on the part of someone who has little understanding of our banking/investment system. See, someone bothered to take the time to point out the massive flaws in your speculation...feel better :)


Perhaps by taking stock & bonds of companies they then own and control those physical assets in one fell swoop, fulfilling the socialist goal of control of all means of production. And replacing them with fiat FED printed treasuries/bonds.

Study one of Cheney'a most obvious and protected mafia crimes that was protected by FBI-DOJ HQ: it's called ENRON-CHENEY'S SECRETIVE ENERGY TASK FORCE.

There was a point when all those workers at so many Enron derivitive companies.....held pensions valued in Enron stock, that was obviously pumped so it could be later dumped....

Those workers all got screwed.

People bravely came forward to warn them.

They (the workers) held tight to their cards and put alot of chips in the pot....because they did not FIGURE OUT THE HIGH LEVEL SCAM USING SO MANY TRANSFERENCE AUTHORITY FIGURES working together to elevate chicanery into mutally agreed upon reality (Big 8 accounting firms, the business mainstream media, the firms valueing stocks based on due diligence appraisal's of Skilling's paper assertions in regards to many bogus deals that looked good in the business press but were actually fraudulent assertions by third party actors known as the GOP-Corporate-Mainstream Business Press).

PUMP AND DUMP, with insiders protecting the scam and lying (Gov, GOP, Military, Fed law enforcement) is always a way for the neocons to steal.

Holding dollars or stocks valued with dollars........when you can buy Swiss Francs, or China creating a metal backed currency?

Being an American holding dollars........is not sane.

As Europe melts the fuck down, it's going to be interesting to see if the US can hold up. Now that it's earnings season in the US, I think it's about to get rocky in the markets.

Perhaps by taking stock & bonds of companies they then own and control those physical assets in one fell swoop, fulfilling the socialist goal of control of all means of production. And replacing them with fiat FED printed treasuries/bonds.


They (the neocons) enjoy power and outrageous grants of immunity to themselves using highly elaborate and well placed coconspirators who operate to "falsely devalue and then pump value" of anything.

Neocons control the valuation of anything.

They can, using civil asset forfeiture...steal anything they want using a court system that forces people to scrounge money for lawyers. If THEY TAKE ALL YOUR MONEY, HOW WILL YOU HAVE LEGITIMATE LAWYERS ON YOUR SIDE?

YOUR STUCK with the bogus cops operating as court appointed lawyers....and in civil matters, not criminal...you don't have court appointed counsel.

They would either steal it and keep the valuation high....or they would drop the valuation so they could buy low, and later pump it to sell high. Either, wealth was stolen.

In Greece they stole deposits.

Why couldn't they do that in America?

If you cash in your pension or social security and take lump sum..........you have to move it out of the country. SMARTEST THING YOU CAN DO TODAY, NOT NEXT MONTH. YOU CAN LOSE IT ALL, OR LOSE SOME OF IT.

IF YOU STAND PAT and don't cash in.......secret inflation will erode the value of what you think you have. Factor in inflation....Gov does not tell what the real inflation devaluation is. In 2006, dollar lost half it's value from when Bush took office in 2000.

What laws recently prevented expats from moving money offshore to get money out of America? What's the tax on that...despite the fact..."no tax is warranted, since that money is taxed everytime it moves".

You have to assume......anything of value will be stolen one way or another (inflation).

Buy Swiss Francs.

Buy Chinese yun

Buy currency backed by metal, or any country that has kicked out the Chicago School of Economics.