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goodmockingbird User ID: 24568365 United States 04/15/2013 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every day I see people buying crap, with all of them thinking "this will make me happy". When that doesn't make them happy, what do they do? They go buy more crap! And I am so infinitely glad that I never reproduced! Sure, I run into a few -- very, very few -- people in our age bracket with kids who turned out self-respecting and self-supporting. But mostly, I hear the woes of people our age whose grown kids and grandkids are draining them, unable or unwilling to function on their own. So then, on an average trip to a store, I see women my age buying more and more crap to feed, clothe, and AMUSE their 'failure to fly' kids and grandkids. And life is so much better without television! We just let ours die, and never replaced it. It's not until you live without TV that you realize what a drain it is. Yes, I "wonder" about dying alone. But I get more and more okay with it all the time. I Support Our First Responders |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38067777 United States 04/15/2013 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post OP. I'm 56 and spend much time walking in the woods with my dogs, observing nature. Both parents gone now....worldly friends don't understand me anymore and visa versa. Life has changed. I also withdraw from most electronics at home and enjoy living simply the way I grew up. Got rid of the TV and don't listen to music much anymore. I prefer just natural sounds around me..keeps me focused and in the present. I do worry about growing old alone, so I'm moving closer to a brother who is similar to me in thought. Keeps to himself and away from the nonsense. I enjoy talking to people of moral fiber and intelligence ...but keep visits brief unless it is a person I can completely trust. I've come to understand animals and their place on earth in a much better light. |
Raveninns User ID: 36415448 Canada 04/15/2013 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel the same way as the OP. Yes yes and yes. As I made my career as a social worker, insulating oneself is usually a red flag (as I was taught). Now, I do not see it that way. I am tired. I have given all to God and country. It sucked. I do not generally like very many people. Their values vastly differ from mine. The only way I see myself as staying somewhat sane is to form my own little sanctuary and limit contact as much as possible. It works for me. The future? Well, who knows. I'll deal with it when it happens. I believe that I'll be given options that will be acceptable to me as I also believe that I create my own reality. Whatever, we'll see. What is gratifying is that I see from this thread that I am not alone. Very gratifying. Cheers everyone! Great Spirit, make me ready, for that last sunset, and my Spirit will come to you without shame. |
T-Cain Top Hat User ID: 25493307 United States 04/15/2013 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. 52 here. I'm tired of diminishing opportunities that were there for my fellow boomers that aren't there for me. Every job I've had eventually attritions away due to the smaller margins...until...technology, outsourcing or both replaces it completely. I was born on the tail end of the boomer bell curve. All those older than me thought in terms of company retirements and benefits. All those younger think in terms of a fast paced career and live for today. Party on Garth. A completely different mindset. I don't fit well in either generation, thus, I can't identify with either. So I am completely shut off from everyone younger or older now. The older because I'm so angry at them for not having to worry about much and bragging about their good fortune simply based on their loyalty to show up everyday...in a time when that strategy worked for the boomers. There was no global competition based on slave labor. Companies were loyal to both them and America and everyone prospered. No friends. No family ties. I'm happy to be alone. Word of advice, don't be born at the tail end of any generation. It's awfully depressing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25080880 United States 04/15/2013 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the answers are yes, are you worried about being alone as you get older? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38007754 I fit in the category (over 50) and to some extent feel alienated from people who live meaningless lives that revolve around modern day trivia such as TV social media and the obsession with possessions. I also despair of the way we are bringing up children and their need for the same type of crap. I have never married and have not brought kids into this world, but have had the occasional input with nephews and nieces - who have all grown now. I have always despaired for the future, but that is in my nature rather than specifically the times I've lived through. Mankind has always lived through continual change over the last few thousand years, though that pace has accelerated enormously (and unsustainably) over more recent decades. We have now lost ALL values of right and wrong, good and bad etc. We have fooled Nature for quite a while now, and she is about to wake-up and have her revenge - that is obvious. The resultant is going to be nasty (from a human prospective). Nature is going to take time to put things back in balance again. The change will be of the order of chaos that finished off the dinosaurs. I am not concerned about being alone... No, not at all. The only concerns I have are practical ones like the process of death - that it be quick and relatively painless. My concern is that I should never become dependant on others with the exception of simple euthanasia. My time on earth was gifted to me (like it or not) as everyone else. My short time here is of no real significance in the scheme of things. ANY individual who thinks differently is a fool. O/P get over your self-centredness. Well stated my friend.I`m 55 with no kids.I do have a woman that I will grow old with (not married).I went through the facade of marriage 30 years ago and ended up broke.Your last sentence is the one people must realize.I am happy where I will be going and will live the rest of my life as it is dealt to me. brother |
mrsnacks User ID: 35562066 United States 04/15/2013 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems that a lot more people today over 50, and even some younger, have decided to cut ties with people around them and spend time by themselves, with no regular human companionship. I've grown tired of trying with family that doesn't give a damn about being kind and sensible, of wasting time with friends who only want to complain about their lazy husbands or talk about their grandkid's soccer games, and tired of people being so apathetic and willing to be a sheeple. So if you want to give your own feedback - please do: Have you cut ties with 'family'? Do you find 'friends' to be self-centered and boring? Are you finding it less complicated to be by yourself, with a pet, communing with nature, hobbies, etc.? If the answers are yes, are you worried about being alone as you get older? --------------------------- A sage Dr. Shankar said " family members are just friendly enemies. We are all alone. We came here alone and leave alone. It makes sense that we are even alone in between birth and death.The illusion is that just because we are surrounded by people or in a relationship we are not alone. I never felt more alone when I was in a marriage gone sour. Friendship is also illusory. Labels in the mind. They are our friends simply based on likes and dislikes not love. We like them and consider them friends because they agree and think like we do. Honesty is illusory as well. We have all refrained from saying things and being completely honest in fear of losing a friend or getting our spouse upset. How do I like honey as a wife will ask her husband. She looks like crap but you say you look beautiful honey. Why lie??? Lies maintain a relationship. You say she looks beautiful because you don't want to be honest and you want to get sex that night so you lie. Nothing wrong with it. Not worried about being alone in the future. First off we are alone to begin with. And there is no future. Only now. Now is all there is. The past , present and future are just mental concepts in the mind. The mind doesn't meet life. Life is thoughtless and timeless. Time exists only in the mind as well as thoughts. When in deep sleep where is time ? The world even disappears in deep sleep showing us that we live in a world of thoughts. When we wake up the mind is activated and then the world comes to be along with thoughts and time. All problems exists is the mind only and not in life. Life is a singular flow. A play of light and sound. That is it. All the drama you talk about exists in the mind only. That is the function of the mind so nothing wrong with it. It is the place of drama. We are conditioned to think that being alone is not good. That there is something wrong with you if you are not in a relationship. But check it out. It is all selfish. You want a relationship because you don't want to be alone. It has nothing to do with that person but your own selfish motive. Your expectations and desires. All about using the person for your own needs. I am not judging just exposing the truth of it all. Nothing is wrong for all going into a relationship has an agenda. That is why they don't really work out. It ain't about love. Love is unconditional. It is about owning someone. Notice the language. My wife, my husband, my boy or girlfriend. None of it is yours. Their is no "mine."Everything and everyone comes and goes. Nothing is permanent. All an illusion. |
Hollow Bones User ID: 37397133 United Kingdom 04/15/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is indeed wisdom that comes with aging, at least for anyone who is awake of enough to learn. I have reached the point where trying to change, or awaken anyone, is no longer important. I also have reached an age where I no longer give a fuck what anyone thinks or says about me. How liberating that is! We all must do our own soul searching, and no one can be forced to search for something without the awareness that anything is even missing. How do you possibly reach someone like that? You can't, so why waste valuable energy in doing so? Why take on that responsibility? It's much more valuable to become the change you seek, and then see how others respond. A wise man once said perhaps people need to experience more suffering. When suffering finally reaches a level of being unbearable, existing individual paradigms will collapse, making one ripe for growth opportunities. Most people only want relief from their suffering, and do not realize that there is a way to actually transcend it. It's no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. |
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goodmockingbird User ID: 24568365 United States 04/15/2013 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ancient Buddhist proverb comes more and more to mind: The true measure of a person's welath (or 'prosperity') is not what he has, but what he can comfortably live without. I just don't do amusements or commotions any more. Yet all around me, I see people obsessed over them. Last Edited by goodmockingbird on 04/15/2013 10:04 AM I Support Our First Responders |
BobTheDog User ID: 38086335 United States 04/15/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ditto. “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” Frank Zappa “The lies the government and media tell are amplifications of the lies we tell ourselves. To stop being conned, stop conning yourself.” — James Wolcott |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30120084 United States 04/15/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For entertainment, when you go through the store checkout line, tell the young clerk "Yes Mam" when she asks you if that is all. Emphasize the "mam" bit. It un-nerves em a bit when an older person does that. Even if they don't seem to notice, subconsciously they do. You are planting seeds of "hey kid, your getting older, time to panic" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7961756 United States 04/15/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems that a lot more people today over 50, and even some younger, have decided to cut ties with people around them and spend time by themselves, with no regular human companionship. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38007754 I've grown tired of trying with family that doesn't give a damn about being kind and sensible, of wasting time with friends who only want to complain about their lazy husbands or talk about their grandkid's soccer games, and tired of people being so apathetic and willing to be a sheeple. So if you want to give your own feedback - please do: Have you cut ties with 'family'? Do you find 'friends' to be self-centered and boring? Are you finding it less complicated to be by yourself, with a pet, communing with nature, hobbies, etc.? If the answers are yes, are you worried about being alone as you get older? our society is becoming atomized. Noam Chomsky once said that the basic social unit would be reduced to one person and one tv. That was long before the hand held computer was realized. A lot of misdirection of energy is responsible for the break down of our social fabric. The list is long and it includes everything from the demise of the consumerist American dream to television, internet, video games and indoctrination. Our whole society is technologically advanced but hasn't developed emotionally since we were hunter gatherers. The world we live in is artificial, it offers little for the heart or the soul. One million channels and nothing on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26448516 United Kingdom 04/15/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes! So is this an age thing?I am much happier doing my thing, taking the dog out for nice walks. I have lots of things that interest me and I want to do. Then I remember what it was like not living alone and I ask myself if I want to find another partner to share my life with and I always answer NO, too much trouble and heartache. If I met someone that totally makes me change my mind, well then, ok. But I am not looking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38053789 But there is that nagging thought of what will happen when I am elderly? Will I manage living alone? Will I be really poor? Will I be ok? But I guess no one knows the answers to these questions and we just have to do what seems right for the moment. At least that is what I tell myself. I guess if it all ends up badly I will have to suffer for my choices. Gawd - I could have written that , my thoughts exactly ! |
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A Separate Peace User ID: 1697744 United States 04/15/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, so happy to hear I'm not alone in this. I feel somewhat guilty about severing ties but life has become so much more peaceful and purposeful without unconscious play acting that most people are still doing. I realize this is a huge part of the awakening process, but it can get very lonely at times. Used to be that I faulted myself for withdrawing, but the farther out I go, the more I am at peace with my decision. Bless you all. Again, I'm glad to know I'm not alone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1153672 United States 04/15/2013 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems that a lot more people today over 50, and even some younger, have decided to cut ties with people around them and spend time by themselves, with no regular human companionship. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38007754 I've grown tired of trying with family that doesn't give a damn about being kind and sensible, of wasting time with friends who only want to complain about their lazy husbands or talk about their grandkid's soccer games, and tired of people being so apathetic and willing to be a sheeple. So if you want to give your own feedback - please do: Have you cut ties with 'family'? Do you find 'friends' to be self-centered and boring? Are you finding it less complicated to be by yourself, with a pet, communing with nature, hobbies, etc.? If the answers are yes, are you worried about being alone as you get older? Not very Christian like now is it? Perhaps you need to be different making them want to change? Set the examples?...instead of slamming the door? Your plan sounds like a plan the corrupt wish to implement. Destroy the very fiber and threads which weave a strong family together. Your changing, but for the worse. |
TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States 04/15/2013 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems that a lot more people today over 50, and even some younger, have decided to cut ties with people around them and spend time by themselves, with no regular human companionship. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38007754 I've grown tired of trying with family that doesn't give a damn about being kind and sensible, of wasting time with friends who only want to complain about their lazy husbands or talk about their grandkid's soccer games, and tired of people being so apathetic and willing to be a sheeple. So if you want to give your own feedback - please do: Have you cut ties with 'family'? Do you find 'friends' to be self-centered and boring? Are you finding it less complicated to be by yourself, with a pet, communing with nature, hobbies, etc.? If the answers are yes, are you worried about being alone as you get older? our society is becoming atomized. Noam Chomsky once said that the basic social unit would be reduced to one person and one tv. That was long before the hand held computer was realized. A lot of misdirection of energy is responsible for the break down of our social fabric. The list is long and it includes everything from the demise of the consumerist American dream to television, internet, video games and indoctrination. Our whole society is technologically advanced but hasn't developed emotionally since we were hunter gatherers. The world we live in is artificial, it offers little for the heart or the soul. One million channels and nothing on. Interesting POV - I was asked by friends, Y I did not have a smart phone? I told them I did want one cause it would suck my brains like it has done 2 U all! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1697744 United States 04/15/2013 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is indeed wisdom that comes with aging, at least for anyone who is awake of enough to learn. I have reached the point where trying to change, or awaken anyone, is no longer important. I also have reached an age where I no longer give a fuck what anyone thinks or says about me. How liberating that is! We all must do our own soul searching, and no one can be forced to search for something without the awareness that anything is even missing. How do you possibly reach someone like that? You can't, so why waste valuable energy in doing so? Why take on that responsibility? It's much more valuable to become the change you seek, and then see how others respond. Quoting: Hollow Bones A wise man once said perhaps people need to experience more suffering. When suffering finally reaches a level of being unbearable, existing individual paradigms will collapse, making one ripe for growth opportunities. Most people only want relief from their suffering, and do not realize that there is a way to actually transcend it. A relative of mine, by marriage, is the same age as I - pushing 50 and is in the midst of a nervous breakdown because of her age. She still wears short, short mini skirts and goes out to clubs. Looks like an old woman hanging on. I on the other hand have no time for that nonsense. I am better today than I've ever been. Mostly because I don't give a rats ass what anyone thinks about me. I have never been more self confident and self-assured and I have not yet begun to peak. It is so liberating!! So liberating!! |
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We Who Watch User ID: 37849627 United States 04/15/2013 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by We Who Watch on 04/15/2013 11:29 PM 7 Billion people on the planet! That's a BIG number! And I am one. |
whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States 04/15/2013 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will add my yes also. Have my immediate family, since my kids are just young teens still. Late bloomer you might say. The rest are so caught up in "stuff" it is just clutter. None can see what is really going on, nor do they even want to see it. They want to have their happy fun life and are scared of anything that might take their illusions away. Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1697744 United States 04/15/2013 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems that a lot more people today over 50, and even some younger, have decided to cut ties with people around them and spend time by themselves, with no regular human companionship. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38007754 I've grown tired of trying with family that doesn't give a damn about being kind and sensible, of wasting time with friends who only want to complain about their lazy husbands or talk about their grandkid's soccer games, and tired of people being so apathetic and willing to be a sheeple. So if you want to give your own feedback - please do: Have you cut ties with 'family'? Do you find 'friends' to be self-centered and boring? Are you finding it less complicated to be by yourself, with a pet, communing with nature, hobbies, etc.? If the answers are yes, are you worried about being alone as you get older? Not very Christian like now is it? Perhaps you need to be different making them want to change? Set the examples?...instead of slamming the door? Your plan sounds like a plan the corrupt wish to implement. Destroy the very fiber and threads which weave a strong family together. Your changing, but for the worse. Even Jesus said don't throw your pearls before swine. Also when people reject the truth you make a show of taking off your sandals and shaking off the dust as you leave. |
sunshine4mealwayz User ID: 2698905 United States 04/15/2013 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you cut ties with 'family'? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38007754 Do you find 'friends' to be self-centered and boring? Are you finding it less complicated to be by yourself, with a pet, communing with nature, hobbies, etc.? If the answers are yes, are you worried about being alone as you get older? 49 here,but close to 50 I keep in touch with my elderly parents.The rest of my family,no. I was decieved by every friend I ever had when I was young so I stopped having friends.Don't need them. I would not like to live by myself.I'm pretty sure I would go insane without a significant other to give and recieve love and share my life with. I have had a half dozen cats before,and bred hamsters giving each their own mansion.I've owned probably 30 hamsters at the same time.Between cleaning litter boxes,and keeping the hamsters mansions clean I pretty much wore myself out.After my last pet died I quit having pets and won't have anymore. Yes, I worry about being alone when I get older.If something happened to my bf I don't know what I'd do.I think I would probably lose it. Last Edited by Anonymous Sun on 04/15/2013 10:57 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30120084 United States 04/15/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would never cut ties with family because at the end of the day, that's all you got. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38002509 Yeah, a group of self serving, ego driven leeches. Bitter? I guess. But that's my prerogative. Even the grandkid detests me, but that is probably because I slammed his ass up against the wall when he drew back a fist to his mom. Smart kid, but stupid as hell. |