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You dudes & dudettes, with experiences with "Them"...

Do you believe in reincarnation? Do you believe they are monitoring some stuff on you related with it?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Yes we have souls and they go back to the source when we die, but even ET doesn't know who or what God is...they believe there is a creator, just because logically there must be an intelligent designer, but they don't know any more than we do about God.
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i had suspected as much

maybe they are trying to find clues in us.
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maybe they are trying to find clues in us.
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Of course, it seems they're looking for something inside the human body & mind (something physical... or metaphysical)
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You dudes & dudettes, with experiences with "Them"...

Do you believe in reincarnation? Do you believe they are monitoring some stuff on you related with it?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Yes we have souls and they go back to the source when we die, but even ET doesn't know who or what God is...they believe there is a creator, just because logically there must be an intelligent designer, but they don't know any more than we do about God.
 Quoting: BRIEF


So they (at least, that sort of "they") are not necessarily in an higher level of spiritual development than us...

Even, do you think it's correct that they (at least, that sort of "they") have not souls like us (or like some of us, but I believe EVERYONE OF US have souls)?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Yeah, they have souls and are obviously more advanced spiritually as well as technologically...God created us all, but they just artificially sped up our evolution...who's to say God doesn't delegate his will?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In late antiquity the term archon was used in Gnosticism to refer to several servants of the Demiurge, the "creator god" that stood between the human race and a transcendent God that could only be reached through gnosis. In this context they have the role of the angels and demons of the Old Testament. They give their name to the sect called Archontics

“Outward” explicability and inner occlusion are the twin weapons of the maze: that [process] which makes no sense is fed to that percept and cognitive system which is (unknown to itself) impaired. The result is hopeless confusion, the antithesis of gnosis. You have a deliberately damaged mind trying hopelessly to make sense out of a reality (and process) which adds up to nothing anyhow: a lethal combination, but quite in keeping with the purpose and nature of the maze and its quasi mind; this is why we should think of it as a maze-and a good one! “- Philip K. Dick
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Only one species that I know of uses probes up your ass to check health and diagnose any problems, they are rare from what I gather.
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that's what I was told too its a diagnostic port...

give us some details of your encounters, do you have any links to previous threads??
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Never started a thread on it but I have discussed it in detail in many...

I don't use the word abduction because I was asked...they are making hybrids using the best features of humans and themselves...

If you look at evolution, you don't see a smooth and steady process, instead poof, nearly over night we get upgraded...that's what they are preparing for now, our next evolutionary upgrade.
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awesome.. any idea of spec's of the upgrade? shoulder mounted laser cannons , ability to fly? x ray vision ? that kind of thing right?
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the elimination of the race as it currently exists?? WTF do you think happened to the neanderthals?
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You dudes & dudettes, with experiences with "Them"...

Do you believe in reincarnation? Do you believe they are monitoring some stuff on you related with it?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Yes we have souls and they go back to the source when we die, but even ET doesn't know who or what God is...they believe there is a creator, just because logically there must be an intelligent designer, but they don't know any more than we do about God.
 Quoting: BRIEF


So they (at least, that sort of "they") are not necessarily in an higher level of spiritual development than us...

Even, do you think it's correct that they (at least, that sort of "they") have not souls like us (or like some of us, but I believe EVERYONE OF US have souls)?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Yeah, they have souls and are obviously more advanced spiritually as well as technologically...God created us all, but they just artificially sped up our evolution...who's to say God doesn't delegate his will?
 Quoting: BRIEF


well if "god" made them and they tampered with us. I suppose its all "gods will" lol
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that's what I was told too its a diagnostic port...

give us some details of your encounters, do you have any links to previous threads??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38093552


Never started a thread on it but I have discussed it in detail in many...

I don't use the word abduction because I was asked...they are making hybrids using the best features of humans and themselves...

If you look at evolution, you don't see a smooth and steady process, instead poof, nearly over night we get upgraded...that's what they are preparing for now, our next evolutionary upgrade.
 Quoting: BRIEF


awesome.. any idea of spec's of the upgrade? shoulder mounted laser cannons , ability to fly? x ray vision ? that kind of thing right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38093552


the elimination of the race as it currently exists?? WTF do you think happened to the neanderthals?
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so that's what the giglamesh flood was about
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Yeah, they have souls and are obviously more advanced spiritually as well as technologically...God created us all, but they just artificially sped up our evolution...who's to say God doesn't delegate his will?
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That's another perspective, then. Something almost angelical about their nature and purposes... Of course, every spiritual being or incarnated soul is, at the end, an agent of God's Will... (even the Devil)
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Yeah, they have souls and are obviously more advanced spiritually as well as technologically...God created us all, but they just artificially sped up our evolution...who's to say God doesn't delegate his will?
 Quoting: BRIEF


That's another perspective, then. Something almost angelical about their nature and purposes... Of course, every spiritual being or incarnated soul is, at the end, an agent of God's Will... (even the Devil)
 Quoting: Inerrancia


I believe the angels of the bible to simply be ET's influencing us and sometimes doing things that we call miracles simply because we can't explain it as humans...
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An apparent digression. You, with personal experience with "them"... Did they talk you or show you something about astrology?
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An apparent digression. You, with personal experience with "them"... Did they talk you or show you something about astrology?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


What they showed me was that every cell and everything in the universe works along the same rules or laws...the motions of the planets and stars behave the same as every cell in your body, including time.
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It's said that "alien abduction" is actually a regular process, with a lot of sucessive steps and levels, along the entire life of the abductees...
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They would show up when I was a kid and I'd be so scared I literally couldn't scream...they would put images in my head that they probably thought would calm me down but that freaked me out even more...
 Quoting: BRIEF


But you're not very sure about that, or are you? Maybe you are talking about weird dreams or nightmares during your childhood, somehow related with your later experience (I guess)
 Quoting: Inerrancia


When I was a kid I thought Darth Vader was in my room...
 Quoting: BRIEF


There was an interview with george lucas long ago where he said that is how hemgot the idea for darth vader

His experience
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An apparent digression. You, with personal experience with "them"... Did they talk you or show you something about astrology?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


What they showed me was that every cell and everything in the universe works along the same rules or laws...the motions of the planets and stars behave the same as every cell in your body, including time.
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That's very interesting
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An apparent digression. You, with personal experience with "them"... Did they talk you or show you something about astrology?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


What they showed me was that every cell and everything in the universe works along the same rules or laws...the motions of the planets and stars behave the same as every cell in your body, including time.
 Quoting: BRIEF


That's very interesting
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Did they mention to you about some point of their origin, some solar or stellar system, some planet or some dimension, where did they come from?
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This is the best documentary i have seen on the subject so far




Although not a documentary spielbergs Taken is a great movie

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This is the best documentary on it i have seen so far


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Let's take a look at it verycool

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They would show up when I was a kid and I'd be so scared I literally couldn't scream...they would put images in my head that they probably thought would calm me down but that freaked me out even more...
 Quoting: BRIEF


But you're not very sure about that, or are you? Maybe you are talking about weird dreams or nightmares during your childhood, somehow related with your later experience (I guess)
 Quoting: Inerrancia


When I was a kid I thought Darth Vader was in my room...
 Quoting: BRIEF


There was an interview with george lucas long ago where he said that is how hemgot the idea for darth vader

His experience
 Quoting: thecommiesrcumming


No shit? Wow!
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bump for your inputs

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An apparent digression. You, with personal experience with "them"... Did they talk you or show you something about astrology?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


What they showed me was that every cell and everything in the universe works along the same rules or laws...the motions of the planets and stars behave the same as every cell in your body, including time.
 Quoting: BRIEF


That's very interesting
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Did they mention to you about some point of their origin, some solar or stellar system, some planet or some dimension, where did they come from?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


No
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maybe they are trying to find clues in us.
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Of course, it seems they're looking for something inside the human body & mind (something physical... or metaphysical)
 Quoting: Inerrancia


no.
I disagree with the premise.
They know more about us than we do.They seek nothing from us.

When you talk about them,its a very general concept for many types of them.Some have a duty,some a mission,some have a job,some have free time and like the show.

The types we are shown,may have very little relevance to what they actually are.I picture the ones that interact with us as a sort of cell phone.Some have IPhones ,some a Nokia,some a Samsung.But the phone they use is not the one doing the speaking imho. And to take it further,a phone can do things when not being used as a phone.

The trouble we run into in trying to understand the how and why,is static on the line. They know certain folks are to be monitored.But -and I can not believe I am saying this-which timeline the monitored one is in at that point requires a more in depth oversight that they may not be doing at that time.

I think the vast majority,if not all of us,have been contacted in someway.If your body has alot of stress they will go out of their way to make sure you do not remember it.Dreams of being kidnapped,taken away,flying,being lost etc are pretty good indicators of some kind of monitoring.

Speaking for myself here,I do not think anyone who remembers these events are special,we have all been taken.It goes on 24/7. Going forward,try to stay away from gurus on this,because you will remember what you are suppose to know,when you are suppose to know it.Not before.

We are slowly progressing. And as we go forward,society goes forward too.

Finally,I cannot help but feel some may get a little spooked by the concept of mankind being killed off,and a new version coming into play.Its happened before with neanderthal man,and it will happen again.But the new and improved version will still be inhabited by you and me. This is the smelting pot that turns us into pure whatever. After that will come the next version,and the next.And at each step,we experience a better life.

Kind of like going from kindergarten to elementary school,to Junior high,to senior high. At each level we get more benies,but more responsibilities too.Maybe soon we can get a coke in the lunch room :) After that,who knows where we go. That is college level stuff,and way above my paygrade.

But enjoy the day.Enjoy the ones you love.Do not hurt each other,because what is planned in the coursework for any of us could really be a surprise.And you do not want unfinished homework.

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maybe they are trying to find clues in us.
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Of course, it seems they're looking for something inside the human body & mind (something physical... or metaphysical)
 Quoting: Inerrancia


no.
I disagree with the premise.
They know more about us than we do.They seek nothing from us.

When you talk about them,its a very general concept for many types of them.Some have a duty,some a mission,some have a job,some have free time and like the show.

The types we are shown,may have very little relevance to what they actually are.I picture the ones that interact with us as a sort of cell phone.Some have IPhones ,some a Nokia,some a Samsung.But the phone they use is not the one doing the speaking imho. And to take it further,a phone can do things when not being used as a phone.

The trouble we run into in trying to understand the how and why,is static on the line. They know certain folks are to be monitored.But -and I can not believe I am saying this-which timeline the monitored one is in at that point requires a more in depth oversight that they may not be doing at that time.

I think the vast majority,if not all of us,have been contacted in someway.If your body has alot of stress they will go out of their way to make sure you do not remember it.Dreams of being kidnapped,taken away,flying,being lost etc are pretty good indicators of some kind of monitoring.

Speaking for myself here,I do not think anyone who remembers these events are special,we have all been taken.It goes on 24/7. Going forward,try to stay away from gurus on this,because you will remember what you are suppose to know,when you are suppose to know it.Not before.

We are slowly progressing. And as we go forward,society goes forward too.

Finally,I cannot help but feel some may get a little spooked by the concept of mankind being killed off,and a new version coming into play.Its happened before with neanderthal man,and it will happen again.But the new and improved version will still be inhabited by you and me. This is the smelting pot that turns us into pure whatever. After that will come the next version,and the next.And at each step,we experience a better life.

Kind of like going from kindergarten to elementary school,to Junior high,to senior high. At each level we get more benies,but more responsibilities too.Maybe soon we can get a coke in the lunch room :) After that,who knows where we go. That is college level stuff,and way above my paygrade.

But enjoy the day.Enjoy the ones you love.Do not hurt each other,because what is planned in the coursework for any of us could really be a surprise.And you do not want unfinished homework.

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So (if I understand what you say) they are monitoring, improving, engineering, making "technical maintenance" on us as individuals & race or specie because an "high purpose", it's presumed as a spiritual path for humanity across the ages... Can't we make the way ourselves alone?
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The first point is that you make an us and them--there is no us and them.Its just us.
The second point,we were not us until they made that happen too.

Could we have done it ourselves? Maybe.
But probably not.Our biological programming needed for that time frame would hinder advancement in future dates.

It seems that you equate humans with earth.We evolved here,adapted etc. But the real you,the spiritual you,is not constrained to earth-once school is out. You cannot look at this as just a physical process.

Does this make sense?
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The first point is that you make an us and them--there is no us and them.Its just us.
The second point,we were not us until they made that happen too.

Could we have done it ourselves? Maybe.
But probably not.Our biological programming needed for that time frame would hinder advancement in future dates.

It seems that you equate humans with earth.We evolved here,adapted etc. But the real you,the spiritual you,is not constrained to earth-once school is out. You cannot look at this as just a physical process.

Does this make sense?
 Quoting: Dervish


Again, if I understand you right, we, humans, the real nature of "us" really is beyond biology (at least, the terrestrial one), natural history or academic anthropogenesis. They (us, they-us, whatever) MADE the process worked under a purposed project with a special development that created us as we are now (and they are creating our future "us" using us now). Really they are adapting the more efficent vehicle for our soul's purposes, or for the Big Plan about our souls...

Am I wrong?
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The first point is that you make an us and them--there is no us and them.Its just us.
The second point,we were not us until they made that happen too.

Could we have done it ourselves? Maybe.
But probably not.Our biological programming needed for that time frame would hinder advancement in future dates.

It seems that you equate humans with earth.We evolved here,adapted etc. But the real you,the spiritual you,is not constrained to earth-once school is out. You cannot look at this as just a physical process.

Does this make sense?
 Quoting: Dervish


Again, if I understand you right, we, humans, the real nature of "us" really is beyond biology (at least, the terrestrial one), natural history or academic anthropogenesis. They (us, they-us, whatever) MADE the process worked under a purposed project with a special development that created us as we are now (and they are creating our future "us" using us now). Really they are adapting the more efficent vehicle for our soul's purposes, or for the Big Plan about our souls...

Am I wrong?
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Correct.
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The first point is that you make an us and them--there is no us and them.Its just us.
The second point,we were not us until they made that happen too.

Could we have done it ourselves? Maybe.
But probably not.Our biological programming needed for that time frame would hinder advancement in future dates.

It seems that you equate humans with earth.We evolved here,adapted etc. But the real you,the spiritual you,is not constrained to earth-once school is out. You cannot look at this as just a physical process.

Does this make sense?
 Quoting: Dervish


Again, if I understand you right, we, humans, the real nature of "us" really is beyond biology (at least, the terrestrial one), natural history or academic anthropogenesis. They (us, they-us, whatever) MADE the process worked under a purposed project with a special development that created us as we are now (and they are creating our future "us" using us now). Really they are adapting the more efficent vehicle for our soul's purposes, or for the Big Plan about our souls...

Am I wrong?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Correct.
 Quoting: Dervish


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Dervish, that perspective about "how the things really are", is the product of your meditation on the stuff, or they told you that as "this is real stuff"?

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You dudes & dudettes, with experiences with "Them"...

Do you believe in reincarnation? Do you believe they are monitoring some stuff on you related with it?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Yes we have souls and they go back to the source when we die, but even ET doesn't know who or what God is...they believe there is a creator, just because logically there must be an intelligent designer, but they don't know any more than we do about God.
 Quoting: BRIEF


So they (at least, that sort of "they") are not necessarily in an higher level of spiritual development than us...

Even, do you think it's correct that they (at least, that sort of "they") have not souls like us (or like some of us, but I believe EVERYONE OF US have souls)?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Yeah, they have souls and are obviously more advanced spiritually as well as technologically...God created us all, but they just artificially sped up our evolution...who's to say God doesn't delegate his will?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I respect and love to read your comments but as I see it and with me a lot of others is that we are certainly not less spiritual evolved than e.t's. Hu-man translates to 'mind of god' And that is what we are. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. This realm is the most compressed in the universe. We are on a souls journey and role playing for each other along the way till it's time to integrate everything you have learned back in your infinite god self.
I'm not telling anyone what to believe. It's just something I forgot and that seems to get back to me now.
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Dervish, that perspective about "how the things really are", is the product of your meditation on the stuff, or they told you that as "this is real stuff"?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Most is my meditation on it.What I was told was never so blunt,or straight forward.And some of those things told were told as an impression,not actual words.
The actual words used,I am not writing. Simply because- I do not want the responsibility of putting it down exactly as it was told to me. It was phrased in a way that I do not want to try and emulate.

The meaning was interspersed with impressions(not images) and to try and write both down may change the nuance,and the way its perceived by others. It was a message for me,answering certain questions I asked-again not that I think I am special-but I was never given a mandate to spread anything.
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We are spiritual beings having a human experience. This realm is the most compressed in the universe. We are on a souls journey and role playing for each other along the way till it's time to integrate everything you have learned back in your infinite god self.

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I feel that deeply; I believe that. I believe our spiritual self, our soul or whatever, is a really courageous, brave being (not a condemned one; we are here voluntarily) for just being here, in this earthian plane... Somehow, we all are "brothers in arms" in a very deep sense.

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Dervish, that perspective about "how the things really are", is the product of your meditation on the stuff, or they told you that as "this is real stuff"?
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Most is my meditation on it.What I was told was never so blunt,or straight forward.And some of those things told were told as an impression,not actual words.
The actual words used,I am not writing. Simply because- I do not want the responsibility of putting it down exactly as it was told to me. It was phrased in a way that I do not want to try and emulate.

The meaning was interspersed with impressions(not images) and to try and write both down may change the nuance,and the way its perceived by others. It was a message for me,answering certain questions I asked-again not that I think I am special-but I was never given a mandate to spread anything.
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It's all right, I respect that, my friend.

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