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UFO's - The Real Deal - Un-Debunkable!

 
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The exact same type of UFO's - Light Phenomenon is showing up worldwide right now!

All of these sightings are from the last 5 years!

Why are orbs of light in triangle formation repeatedly appearing over cities the world over? What is the purpose?

For these are not chance "sightings", they are intentional appearances. They want us to see them.

Why?

Why not just come down and talk to us directly?

First contact is a very shocking thing. Perhaps they know it isn't best to force it upon us all at once. How would we react to ships unexpectedly descending upon the planet?

How would the media react? How would the military react?

Pretty orbs of light in the sky are non-threatening. And it is not immediately obvious what they are. Yet they give us all the information we need to conclude that they are in fact extra-terrestrial in origin. But it is up to us to figure it out for ourselves.

And in the process of figuring it out, we have time to absorb the reality of it, to get over the shock and disbelief. Time to realize that these beings are nothing to fear.

Perhaps when enough of us come to realize this, and we welcome them in peace, then they will formally introduce themselves.

These visitors, our galactic neighbors, understand human psychology very well. They know what they are doing. We are not the first planet they have visited.

This is real. This is not a joke. Research the history of UFO sightings for yourselves. You will see that these orbs have been appearing for a long time. But never like this, with such frequency, clarity, and purpose. Something amazing is happening. We are being prepared for first contact.

Don't freak out. These are wise, benevolent beings. And it probably isn't just one race from one planet. It is most likely an alliance of civilizations cooperating to help our planet progress.

Meeting our galactic neighbors will be extremely good for us. It will expand our minds greatly and do so much to help us progress into a peaceful, environmentally sustainable society.

Let us welcome them with love and gratitude!

There is GOOD out there!






To start with, wouldn't it be nice to know how much the government know about these UFOs that they often are so quick at explaining away as military experiments, Chinese Lanterns, Flares, Planes, illusions etc?

In fact, we do know a few things about how much the government knows! First of all, we know that they are aware of that the Lake Erie UFO orb phenomenon is not local for the Great Lake, and secondly, we know that they have been hiding their knowledge about these kinds of UFOs from the public for quite a long time.

How do we know that? We know, because in 2006, the British 'Ministry of Defence' (MOD) released some classified UFO files to the public, which can be viewed here: [link to webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk]
When we open up the link, the best thing we are perhaps expecting to find is some general UFO document that doesn't say much, just like it usually is when the government releases information of this nature. However, when opening up the first pdf file, the image hits us right in the face; it's the exact same orbs that have been sighted, photographed and filmed worldwide! So the phenomenon is not isolated only to the Great Lakes! And moreover, we can see that there has been a big cover-up in the United States regarding the orbs over Lake Erie, where so-called 'experts' have expressed their 'informed' opinions about that this can be, when in fact, their knowledge on the subject was there all the time. Instead, they try to make reliable witnesses look like fools.

In the MOD report it says, amongst a lot of other things that are indeed noteworthy:

"That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length. - The UK Ministry of Defence"


This report is interesting in many ways. Although these lights show up clearly in many videos now posted on YouTube, I wanted to ask Michael Lee Hill how he would describe them. He told me:

"They are beautiful! Imagine a house sized ball of Light/plasma that is pulsating with what seems like the brightest most intense multidimensional colors I have ever seen. They usually appear as a single Orb. Then sometimes that Orb will "divide", or another 2nd Orb will appear next to the first. Sometimes a third Orb will appear and then all three Orbs will join into a huge triangle formation and create what seems to be one solid Triangular craft.

So now we know that the exact same kind of UFOs have been seen by reliable witnesses (even the Coast Guard) over Lake Erie, Suffolk, Virginia (see 'The Terrell Copeland Case'[1]), and the Great Britain, recorded by the Ministry of Defense. Now, are there even more places in the world where these specific types of UFOs have been sighted? Yes, there is!

2. The Portal -- The Hessdalen Lights Phenomenon

Hessdalen is a central Norwegian small village located in a 9.3 miles (15km) long valley. We find it approximately 75 miles south of a larger Norweigian city, Trondheim. Normally, it would have been quite an insignificant little village, with only 120 people living there, and few people in the world would have known it even existed. However, Hessdalen has been quite well known internationally for occasional occurrences of a "sometimes ominous luminous phenomena called the 'Hessdalen Lights'. The phenomena is monitored by the 'Hessdalen AMS [Automatic Measurement Station, editor's note]'"[2].

These unusual lights have been reported in Hessdalen since at least back in the 1940s. However, there was a great increase in these sightings over the period of December 1981 until the summer of 1984, when people could apparently see the lights as often as 15-20 times a week. Then the amount of sightings decreased again to a relatively steady amount of 10-20 sightings a year, in average.

The light people see is often bright white or yellow (compare the Eastlake UFOs) and of unknown origin to the villagers and scientists. These lights are "standing or floating above the ground level."[3] And these are not just flashing lights; they can be seen, sometimes for hours at the time!

Due to the increased sightings in the early 1980s, a research team nick-named 'Project Hessdalen'[5] was initiated by Dr. Erling Strand in 1983. In 1988, the 'Hessdalen AMS', which basically is a research station, was built in the valley. It registers and records the appearance of these lights. Later, the EMBLA program was initiated. It brings together established scientists and students into researching these lights. Leading research institutions are Østfold University College (Norway) and the Italian National Research Council.[4] So it's obvious that these lights can't be easily explained. In fact, these research institutions, after almost 30 years of steady research, have no clear idea of what these lights are. In Wikipedia, it gives us a number of bullet points, showing us what some scientists are guessing that it is. However, none of these explanations includes that the lights has some kind of higher consciousness, which is quite apparent to anyone who has ever seen them. Nothing artificial can make loops and patterns like that. There are those who would object and say that nothing we know of could make patterns like that, but the thing is that anyone who is objective to start with will see that these lights are moving around by consciousness. I haven't watches them on site, but it's enough to watch them on videos to be able to tell.

But to make sure, let's see what local eye witnesses think about the lights in Hessdalen:


Multimedia A-3.

One of the remarks a professor does is "where is the power cord; where is the fuel?" And he is nailing it down right to the point; these lights are not moving around with assistance from any known energy source, at least not to mainstream science.


The video presentation, 'The Portal' (Multimedia A-3 above) is a 47 minutes long video, filled with very reliable eye witnesses that have all seen similar things. The light phenomena are changing speed, indicating no mass by physical means, and "seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground while passing by".[6] The same thing has been reported regarding the Eastlake UFOs. 'The Portal' continues the presentation by saying, "The phenomenon seems to radiate energy, due to the light and frequent change of color".[7] But also, some eye witnesses have, in connection with the sightings, felt the foul smell of sulphur. Apparently, in 2004 the scientists detected the light phenomenon several times, directly above a specific sulphur mine outside the village. "So this mine must be very special", says one of the interviewed locals of Hessdalen.[8] Although these lights have been seen hovering above the sulphur mine, it's just another theory, they add. The lights do not follow any fixed pattern, and certainly don't always hover over sulphur mines.

A spectral study has been done as well of the phenomenon, and it's been shown to contain oxygen, nitrogen, and silica, which in reality means air and dust. But there were also traces of the rare element of scandium, which can only be found in Scandinavia! Scandium is an extremely hard substance which can be found in the production of Soviet hydroplanes. This material is strong enough to cut through ice caps![9] The same material was used in Soviet fighters (and perhaps still is?) The Soviets had developed high-strength weldable aluminum alloys using Scandium. Now, that is interesting, because it's exactly what has been reported in the Eastlake UFO sightings! Eye witnesses have sometimes heard, sometimes seen (or both), how the UFOs have cut through the ice cap, making a massive sound. The Norwegian research team has now, as mentioned above, expanded their staff to include college students and others, because they need much more manpower to go to the bottom with this interesting phenomenon. It should be mentioned for research purposes that this phenomenon has also been observed in combination with the aurora borealis, starting out around 9:30 in the evening (fig. A-11).[10]


Figure A-11. The Light Phenomenon over Hessdalen in 2007, around the time of the aurora borealis (snapshot from 'The Portal'). The exposure time in this photo was 30 sec, and according to the Hessdalen researchers, the best photo ever taken of this phenomenon.
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Is it possible that these orb of lights are interdimensional advanced beings, they disappear and appear in a second, they can speed rapidly and so on?
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Is it possible that these orb of lights are interdimensional advanced beings, they disappear and appear in a second, they can speed rapidly and so on?
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Yes

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Is it possible that these orb of lights are interdimensional advanced beings, they disappear and appear in a second, they can speed rapidly and so on?
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"These orbs (UFO's) are what people think and expect, which would be 'physical metal, nuts & bolts UFOs', as he put it, but instead more like portals and have more to do with time travel." - Gary Hernadez/Bigelow Aerospace Investigator
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I'll read this later. Thx OP.

That said... when I read " showing world wide " well, not in my corner. I never ever saw a thing! (maybe when I was kid).
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I'll read this later. Thx OP.

That said... when I read " showing world wide " well, not in my corner. I never ever saw a thing! (maybe when I was kid).
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I've always wondered another thing that, what if these interdimensional beings are actually advanced civilization from this planet who got so far they ascended to another dimension on this earth, the 5th dimension or even more? And we are the result of present day 4th dimension awaiting to ascend to higher dimensions just like they did?

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5* pin request and a personal pin. Plus green karma. (Whoops! your an AC)

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Wtf with the wall of pointless text threads?

And what is there to say these craft are not made by humans?

You have no evidence to suggest otherwise right?


Riiiiiiiiiiigght.
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5* pin request and a personal pin. Plus green karma. (Whoops! your an AC)

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Thank You!
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Wtf with the wall of pointless text threads?

And what is there to say these craft are not made by humans?

You have no evidence to suggest otherwise right?


Riiiiiiiiiiigght.
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"Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length". - The UK Ministry of Defence

"Apparently these have been witnessed during the day but are more visible at night. Have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals." - Bigelow Aerospace

"These orbs is not that they are what people think and expect, which would be 'physical metal, nuts & bolts UFOs', as he put it, but instead more like portals and have to do with time travel." Gary Hernadez Bigelow Aerospace Investigator

So, what is known so far about the pulsating orbs of light UFOs showing up worldwide? The following is the conclusions from over 25 years of research and after Italian SETI scientists got involved with sophisticated equipment:

The phenomenon is identified as a bright flying object with special characteristics making it unique to science.

The phenomenon is more complex and diverse than expected, indicating more than 1 single kind of phenomenon.

The phenomenon is sometimes made up of separate units that may depart and fly away.

The speed varies from still to 8km per second.

The phenomenon changes course in speeds indicating no mass by physical means.

The phenomenon seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground whilst passing by.

The phenomenon seems to radiate energy due to the light and frequency change of colour.

Many interesting spectra in the optical and radio frequency range have been detected but more data is needed to draw proper conclusions.

These scientific data are quite sensational! We are dealing with a real existing phenomenon which can be observed even though this is difficult.
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I've always wondered another thing that, what if these interdimensional beings are actually advanced civilization from this planet who got so far they ascended to another dimension on this earth, the 5th dimension or even more? And we are the result of present day 4th dimension awaiting to ascend to higher dimensions just like they did?
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That sounds very plausible to me
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Is it possible that these orb of lights are interdimensional advanced beings, they disappear and appear in a second, they can speed rapidly and so on?
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Is it possible that these orb of lights are interdimensional advanced beings, they disappear and appear in a second, they can speed rapidly and so on?
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Yes

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Like little flickers of light? OR large glowing bulbs?
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Is it possible that these orb of lights are interdimensional advanced beings, they disappear and appear in a second, they can speed rapidly and so on?
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Yes

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Like little flickers of light? OR large glowing bulbs?
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Sometimes I even wonder what "Size" means to multi-dimensional being who comes from outside our own "Space" & "Time".

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This should be pinned!
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UFO's?

*pukes*
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plasma portals, remote controlled air surveilence drones
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plasma portals, remote controlled air surveilence drones
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Ya, only not our drones ;-)
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Interesting that GLP threads are now being published as news articles by other web sites!

This thread can be found here...
[link to uk-ufo-aliens.blogspot.com]
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Interesting that GLP threads are now being published as news articles by other web sites!

This thread can be found here...
[link to uk-ufo-aliens.blogspot.com]
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This should be pinned!
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Agreed
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I've seen an orb twice during the day!

The first time I was crying and it showed up.

The other one it waited for me to take pictures.
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How close was it?

What did it look like?
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I've seen an orb twice during the day!

The first time I was crying and it showed up.

The other one it waited for me to take pictures.
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How close was it?

What did it look like?
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Like an orb.

You have them on youtube. The same thing.

Up in the sky. So not so close. ;)
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I've seen an orb twice during the day!

The first time I was crying and it showed up.

The other one it waited for me to take pictures.
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How close was it?

What did it look like?
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Like an orb.

You have them on youtube. The same thing.

Up in the sky. So not so close. ;)
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Thanks for sharing!
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