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UFO's - The Real Deal - Un-Debunkable!

 
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they're trying to warn us
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Who is trying to warn us?

And what are they warning us about?
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i believe it's the aliens. They're trying to save us from ourselves.
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they're trying to warn us
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Who is trying to warn us?

And what are they warning us about?
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i believe it's the aliens. They're trying to save us from ourselves.
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Could be ;-)
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The exact same type of UFO's - Light Phenomenon is showing up worldwide right now!

All of these sightings are from the last 5 years!

Why are orbs of light in triangle formation repeatedly appearing over cities the world over? What is the purpose?

For these are not chance "sightings", they are intentional appearances. They want us to see them.

Why?

Why not just come down and talk to us directly?

First contact is a very shocking thing. Perhaps they know it isn't best to force it upon us all at once. How would we react to ships unexpectedly descending upon the planet?

How would the media react? How would the military react?

Pretty orbs of light in the sky are non-threatening. And it is not immediately obvious what they are. Yet they give us all the information we need to conclude that they are in fact extra-terrestrial in origin. But it is up to us to figure it out for ourselves.

And in the process of figuring it out, we have time to absorb the reality of it, to get over the shock and disbelief. Time to realize that these beings are nothing to fear.

Perhaps when enough of us come to realize this, and we welcome them in peace, then they will formally introduce themselves.

These visitors, our galactic neighbors, understand human psychology very well. They know what they are doing. We are not the first planet they have visited.

This is real. This is not a joke. Research the history of UFO sightings for yourselves. You will see that these orbs have been appearing for a long time. But never like this, with such frequency, clarity, and purpose. Something amazing is happening. We are being prepared for first contact.

Don't freak out. These are wise, benevolent beings. And it probably isn't just one race from one planet. It is most likely an alliance of civilizations cooperating to help our planet progress.

Meeting our galactic neighbors will be extremely good for us. It will expand our minds greatly and do so much to help us progress into a peaceful, environmentally sustainable society.

Let us welcome them with love and gratitude!

There is GOOD out there!






To start with, wouldn't it be nice to know how much the government know about these UFOs that they often are so quick at explaining away as military experiments, Chinese Lanterns, Flares, Planes, illusions etc?

In fact, we do know a few things about how much the government knows! First of all, we know that they are aware of that the Lake Erie UFO orb phenomenon is not local for the Great Lake, and secondly, we know that they have been hiding their knowledge about these kinds of UFOs from the public for quite a long time.

How do we know that? We know, because in 2006, the British 'Ministry of Defence' (MOD) released some classified UFO files to the public, which can be viewed here: [link to webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk]

When we open up the link, the best thing we are perhaps expecting to find is some general UFO document that doesn't say much, just like it usually is when the government releases information of this nature. However, when opening up the first pdf file, the image hits us right in the face; it's the exact same orbs that have been sighted, photographed and filmed worldwide! So the phenomenon is not isolated only to the Great Lakes! And moreover, we can see that there has been a big cover-up in the United States regarding the orbs over Lake Erie, where so-called 'experts' have expressed their 'informed' opinions about that this can be, when in fact, their knowledge on the subject was there all the time. Instead, they try to make reliable witnesses look like fools.

In the MOD report it says, amongst a lot of other things that are indeed noteworthy:

"That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length. - The UK Ministry of Defence"


This report is interesting in many ways. Although these lights show up clearly in many videos now posted on YouTube, I wanted to ask Michael Lee Hill how he would describe them. He told me:

"They are beautiful! Imagine a house sized ball of Light/plasma that is pulsating with what seems like the brightest most intense multidimensional colors I have ever seen. They usually appear as a single Orb. Then sometimes that Orb will "divide", or another 2nd Orb will appear next to the first. Sometimes a third Orb will appear and then all three Orbs will join into a huge triangle formation and create what seems to be one solid Triangular craft.

So now we know that the exact same kind of UFOs have been seen by reliable witnesses (even the Coast Guard) over Lake Erie, Suffolk, Virginia (see 'The Terrell Copeland Case'[1]), and the Great Britain, recorded by the Ministry of Defense. Now, are there even more places in the world where these specific types of UFOs have been sighted? Yes, there is!

2. The Portal -- The Hessdalen Lights Phenomenon

Hessdalen is a central Norwegian small village located in a 9.3 miles (15km) long valley. We find it approximately 75 miles south of a larger Norweigian city, Trondheim. Normally, it would have been quite an insignificant little village, with only 120 people living there, and few people in the world would have known it even existed. However, Hessdalen has been quite well known internationally for occasional occurrences of a "sometimes ominous luminous phenomena called the 'Hessdalen Lights'. The phenomena is monitored by the 'Hessdalen AMS [Automatic Measurement Station, editor's note]'"[2].

These unusual lights have been reported in Hessdalen since at least back in the 1940s. However, there was a great increase in these sightings over the period of December 1981 until the summer of 1984, when people could apparently see the lights as often as 15-20 times a week. Then the amount of sightings decreased again to a relatively steady amount of 10-20 sightings a year, in average.

The light people see is often bright white or yellow (compare the Eastlake UFOs) and of unknown origin to the villagers and scientists. These lights are "standing or floating above the ground level."[3] And these are not just flashing lights; they can be seen, sometimes for hours at the time!

Due to the increased sightings in the early 1980s, a research team nick-named 'Project Hessdalen'[5] was initiated by Dr. Erling Strand in 1983. In 1988, the 'Hessdalen AMS', which basically is a research station, was built in the valley. It registers and records the appearance of these lights. Later, the EMBLA program was initiated. It brings together established scientists and students into researching these lights. Leading research institutions are Østfold University College (Norway) and the Italian National Research Council.[4] So it's obvious that these lights can't be easily explained. In fact, these research institutions, after almost 30 years of steady research, have no clear idea of what these lights are. In Wikipedia, it gives us a number of bullet points, showing us what some scientists are guessing that it is. However, none of these explanations includes that the lights has some kind of higher consciousness, which is quite apparent to anyone who has ever seen them. Nothing artificial can make loops and patterns like that. There are those who would object and say that nothing we know of could make patterns like that, but the thing is that anyone who is objective to start with will see that these lights are moving around by consciousness. I haven't watches them on site, but it's enough to watch them on videos to be able to tell.

But to make sure, let's see what local eye witnesses think about the lights in Hessdalen:


Multimedia A-3.

One of the remarks a professor does is "where is the power cord; where is the fuel?" And he is nailing it down right to the point; these lights are not moving around with assistance from any known energy source, at least not to mainstream science.


The video presentation, 'The Portal' (Multimedia A-3 above) is a 47 minutes long video, filled with very reliable eye witnesses that have all seen similar things. The light phenomena are changing speed, indicating no mass by physical means, and "seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground while passing by".[6] The same thing has been reported regarding the Eastlake UFOs. 'The Portal' continues the presentation by saying, "The phenomenon seems to radiate energy, due to the light and frequent change of color".[7] But also, some eye witnesses have, in connection with the sightings, felt the foul smell of sulphur. Apparently, in 2004 the scientists detected the light phenomenon several times, directly above a specific sulphur mine outside the village. "So this mine must be very special", says one of the interviewed locals of Hessdalen.[8] Although these lights have been seen hovering above the sulphur mine, it's just another theory, they add. The lights do not follow any fixed pattern, and certainly don't always hover over sulphur mines.

A spectral study has been done as well of the phenomenon, and it's been shown to contain oxygen, nitrogen, and silica, which in reality means air and dust. But there were also traces of the rare element of scandium, which can only be found in Scandinavia! Scandium is an extremely hard substance which can be found in the production of Soviet hydroplanes. This material is strong enough to cut through ice caps![9] The same material was used in Soviet fighters (and perhaps still is?) The Soviets had developed high-strength weldable aluminum alloys using Scandium. Now, that is interesting, because it's exactly what has been reported in the Eastlake UFO sightings! Eye witnesses have sometimes heard, sometimes seen (or both), how the UFOs have cut through the ice cap, making a massive sound. The Norwegian research team has now, as mentioned above, expanded their staff to include college students and others, because they need much more manpower to go to the bottom with this interesting phenomenon. It should be mentioned for research purposes that this phenomenon has also been observed in combination with the aurora borealis, starting out around 9:30 in the evening (fig. A-11).[10]


Figure A-11. The Light Phenomenon over Hessdalen in 2007, around the time of the aurora borealis (snapshot from 'The Portal'). The exposure time in this photo was 30 sec, and according to the Hessdalen researchers, the best photo ever taken of this phenomenon.
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I really hope for your sake you wake up and realize these are not "good" They are not here to help us in the long run. They are only there as a distraction to the one true God.
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This video is more frustrating then any thing. Don't get me wrong, awesome job making it but nothing change.

still nothing. Same old same old every day.

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And I would say the f*cking so called grey aliens are fallen angels and use aircraft (flying saucers).
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This ^^^ There wings were clipped so they must use "ufo's" A true angel of Jesus needs no "craft"
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And I would say the f*cking so called grey aliens are fallen angels and use aircraft (flying saucers).
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This ^^^ There wings were clipped so they must use "ufo's" A true angel of Jesus needs no "craft"
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Bibletard, Jesus play soccer!

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Is it possible that these orb of lights are interdimensional advanced beings, they disappear and appear in a second, they can speed rapidly and so on?
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even at 1 atoms height the 1rst dimension would no longer be 1...
so me says meh
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dimensions are void

they are dependent

thus

real and unreal

at the same time

thus

all is
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Prove that UFOs have to do with aliens or stfu
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Prove that UFOs have to do with aliens or stfu
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Ughhhhh Have you read these papers in this thread?
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I've seen two of these red fiery plasmic orbs. I was living in Lindsay, Ontario at the time and was out walking my dog when I saw this orb come over the horizon from the west going east. I knew what these looked like from video I had seen and I always have my eyes on the sky. I'm fascinated with our solar system and things that could exist outside of this earth.

Anyway, this orb moved up but close enough for me to see that two other balls of white light came shooting out and then went back in. Was creepy and cool all at the same time. It then proceeded to slowly continue going east and I was gonna run and follow it but I would have had to be in a car. Another orb followed right after that one but it was a lot further from me.

Ive seen lotsa strange stuff in our skies. And I never think ohhh its just a paper lantern or whatever people usually say.

Expand your miiiind naysayers :)
“Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.” C. Dickens
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I've seen two of these red fiery plasmic orbs. I was living in Lindsay, Ontario at the time and was out walking my dog when I saw this orb come over the horizon from the west going east. I knew what these looked like from video I had seen and I always have my eyes on the sky. I'm fascinated with our solar system and things that could exist outside of this earth.

Anyway, this orb moved up but close enough for me to see that two other balls of white light came shooting out and then went back in. Was creepy and cool all at the same time. It then proceeded to slowly continue going east and I was gonna run and follow it but I would have had to be in a car. Another orb followed right after that one but it was a lot further from me.

Ive seen lotsa strange stuff in our skies. And I never think ohhh its just a paper lantern or whatever people usually say.

Expand your miiiind naysayers :)
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I am not surprised you see them or they let you see them, I have seen your other threads and you are awesome.

You do know they are The Anunnaki?
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not UFO (as in metallic air ships) but PLASMA entities, in our world.
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not UFO (as in metallic air ships) but PLASMA entities, in our world.
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I really hope for your sake you wake up and realize these are not "good" They are not here to help us in the long run. They are only there as a distraction to the one true God.
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There is even less evidence of this one true god, and even if there were, why would this god care what anyone thinks. It is supposed to be all powerful, but doesn't even have power to persuade some dumb hicks.
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Nothing new here. Just putting together all that most of us think about extra-earth life. We all know these things already.

Are there UFOs, really?

Of the ‘ufos’ we encounter, 99% are computer-generated gimmicks, clouds, balloons, planes, quadrocopters, lens flares, etc. Of the remaining few, we don’t know how many are military test flights. Who will tell us that? Yet, since there are a rare few flying objects which are called “special” by some experts, some extra-earth races are there and might be visiting us.

Is there no life elsewhere?

Only idiots will deny life outside of our planet. Even kids know that the universe is massive, with billions of planets like our own. Scientists themselves are declaring that Europa is a candidate for life. May be there's life on all our planets of the solar system. On the moon also.

Are these life forms coming to visit us?

Why shouldn't visitors from other planets and stars come, if they are either like us or advanced than us? The problem with us is this: We think travelling is only possible our way, with our idea of speed. Jules Verne wrote that to travel some 100 km up from earth took some hours! His speed calculation was of his times. We never think that travelling from one place to another can have diverse, more advanced methods. Maybe it takes seconds. We discovered the steam engine and car only recently.
Secondly, our only source of info about any visitation is the official scientific community. We are helpless and tied down in this regard. Millions of us are waiting for some news about peoples from other worlds. And we are denied that. All info is hidden and those who do some research too are silent subsequently. Until there's the strongest evidence to the contrary, we can't deny them. Until some government declares and proves that all the (even “true”) UFOs were just their test flights, we must believe in visits.
Thirdly, visits may not mean like our going to the moon, collecting some samples and returning. They may be living here, or may travel to and fro like we do from city to city every day. Such travels were unimaginable for our ancients.

Can we visit other worlds and meet other life forms?

We initially lived isolated lives. We conquered small distances on earth using mules and horses. Then we conquered long distances using machines. Next we thought there is nothing beyond the seas. We conquered the oceans in the 15th-16th centuries and conquered air by 20th century. Now the globe is a small place for us. We shall now conquer space. There is some secret hidden, waiting to be unearthed. Some call this portal, some space travel, some time travel, some space elevators. We don’t know. Once we conquer space, we shall know how to conquer time and travel fast. Thus we shall meet life forms outside earth.

If at all life forms from other planets are visiting us, are they terrible, cruel, and bad, as often thought?

Let movies alone. Forget those big eyes and naked slimy bodies. Are all human beings bad? Are all human beings good? Those who travel, considering our methods, are related to science. IN ancient times, merchants travelled by ships to distant lands to discover and conquer.

The recent efforts of some eminent personalities towards disclosure is a great step. They must not stop for any reason. Hope truth will be revealed soon. Or, maybe the ETs themselves will declare their presence, hopefully.
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I've seen two of these red fiery plasmic orbs. I was living in Lindsay, Ontario at the time and was out walking my dog when I saw this orb come over the horizon from the west going east. I knew what these looked like from video I had seen and I always have my eyes on the sky. I'm fascinated with our solar system and things that could exist outside of this earth.

Anyway, this orb moved up but close enough for me to see that two other balls of white light came shooting out and then went back in. Was creepy and cool all at the same time. It then proceeded to slowly continue going east and I was gonna run and follow it but I would have had to be in a car. Another orb followed right after that one but it was a lot further from me.

Ive seen lotsa strange stuff in our skies. And I never think ohhh its just a paper lantern or whatever people usually say.

Expand your miiiind naysayers :)
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I am not surprised you see them or they let you see them, I have seen your other threads and you are awesome.

You do know they are The Anunnaki?
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Thanks for the kind words. Dont get that too often on this site.

I think thats just it. They let people who believe see them. And if thats not the case once you see something like this you just cant deny it. Unless you are in denial which I think a lot of people are.

I fully believe in The Annunaki. I can't wait till people see the light and we enter a new wave of conciousness :)
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Nice job!
There is no doubt for me on the subject, I have seen too many things not to believe it. Thanks for the thread, it is just a shame that some people are still trying to debunk the subject despite all the observations and sightings which are reported....
I wish everyone could see a UFO once in his life, for me it has been and remains the best proof ever. When you see for yourself, you cannot ignore the subject anymore.

Be safe everyone.

hf
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This is perhaps one of the few rare videos proving extraterrestrial life.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Nice job!
There is no doubt for me on the subject, I have seen too many things not to believe it. Thanks for the thread, it is just a shame that some people are still trying to debunk the subject despite all the observations and sightings which are reported....
I wish everyone could see a UFO once in his life, for me it has been and remains the best proof ever. When you see for yourself, you cannot ignore the subject anymore.

Be safe everyone.

hf
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cheers
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Guys, guys, guys!

Just imagine that only in 10+ years,
when construction of THIS will be finished:

step 1. [link to www.futuretimeline.net]

step 2. [link to www.futuretimeline.net]

step 3. Thread: WOW! Watching climate and geography on planets 150 light years away in 10 years???

..... we gonna look at a handful of exoplanets*** a few 100's light years away and we'll see not only oceans, mountains and cyclons, but other CIVILIZATIONS and CITIES!

Meditate on that..

«A total of 889 such planets (in 694 planetary systems,
including 133 multiple planetary systems) have been
identified as of 22 May 2013.»


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- [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

- [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

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Ufo bull crap
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laugh
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they're trying to warn us
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Who is trying to warn us?

And what are they warning us about?
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They are warning us NOT to get your info on this subject from the Hitler Channel or the SciFi Channel.
Wow. Just wow.
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