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Even if a right-wing "christian" conservative did this, which I doubt, the difference is that the Christian leaders will denounce it.

Where as our Muslim "brothers" would dance in the streets.

And there leaders would call the bomber a saint for the cause.
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You hit the nail on the head.
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But A right wing christian Conservative wouldn't do this if they did they are not a christian.
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I hear the same shit from Muslim apologists...
Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.
~ Christopher Hitchens.
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Where in Christianity does it say that? That's not my understanding of the religion. Basically you do whatever you please, then repent later and you're good. There are some major flaws that I've found in Jesus' teachings.
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The bible says the two most important rules, love God , and Love your neighbor!
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What if I love God and my neighbor, but I think Jesus was a failure? Am I going to heaven, under your system?
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Hell, because you don't know who the boss is. You think it's you. You're wrong. Some people have to be shown who the boss is the hard way. Maybe you're going to one of them.

When you go into work today, walk up the boss and tell him he's just jerkoff and a nobody, flip him off, tell him to kiss your ass, see what he says. We all know what would happen. You think Jesus would react any differently?
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The boss of this world is the devil, we know this from the bible. The theory is that he transferred that power over to Jesus somewhere around 2000 years back.

So yeah, either way, I'm with God, I know for sure that he really is the boss of everything above this world and I'm totally cool with him.
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Where in Christianity does it say that? That's not my understanding of the religion. Basically you do whatever you please, then repent later and you're good. There are some major flaws that I've found in Jesus' teachings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


The bible says the two most important rules, love God , and Love your neighbor!
 Quoting: icyman61


What if I love God and my neighbor, but I think Jesus was a failure? Am I going to heaven, under your system?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


Hell, because you don't know who the boss is. You think it's you. You're wrong. Some people have to be shown who the boss is the hard way. Maybe you're going to one of them.

When you go into work today, walk up the boss and tell him he's just jerkoff and a nobody, flip him off, tell him to kiss your ass, see what he says. We all know what would happen. You think Jesus would react any differently?
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I do know who the boss is, I'm just not fully clear on where Jesus fits into that, and why we can't just worship God himself directly.
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You are way off buddy... it says no such thing in fact the opposite....

Jesus talked very specifically about following the law, even in revelation it says blessed are those who follow the commandments of God and Jesus where ever he goes...

Let no man judge you in meat or drink however handle not touch not taste not after the doctrines of men all which will kill you.....

there are dozens of places where he commands us to follow the law...
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So you're telling me no murderer in history has ever gone to heaven then?
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There is a difference between someone who is truly repentant, and someone just gaming the system. God isn't a dummy, he knows the difference.
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All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
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No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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So you're telling me no murderer in history has ever gone to heaven then?
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There is a difference between someone who is truly repentant, and someone just gaming the system. God isn't a dummy, he knows the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38131475


All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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So what happens if I walk up and slap you in the face? How would that philosophy work in prison?
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So you're telling me no murderer in history has ever gone to heaven then?
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There is a difference between someone who is truly repentant, and someone just gaming the system. God isn't a dummy, he knows the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38131475


All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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Jesus had a lot of good advice, but I'm not seeing why he is God. Because he performed miracles? The devil could give you those powers.
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So you're telling me no murderer in history has ever gone to heaven then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


There is a difference between someone who is truly repentant, and someone just gaming the system. God isn't a dummy, he knows the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38131475


All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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So IRAQ was out to kill us? Really? Do you honestly believe that? What about Libya?
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The bible says the two most important rules, love God , and Love your neighbor!
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What if I love God and my neighbor, but I think Jesus was a failure? Am I going to heaven, under your system?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


Hell, because you don't know who the boss is. You think it's you. You're wrong. Some people have to be shown who the boss is the hard way. Maybe you're going to one of them.

When you go into work today, walk up the boss and tell him he's just jerkoff and a nobody, flip him off, tell him to kiss your ass, see what he says. We all know what would happen. You think Jesus would react any differently?
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I do know who the boss is, I'm just not fully clear on where Jesus fits into that, and why we can't just worship God himself directly.
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He fits in because God can't have anything to do with you. He can't tolerate your sin or mine. It's like if you're a queer and your dad disowns you because he can't deal with it. Maybe you think that's wrong. It doesn't matter what you think, that's the way it is. He doesn't keep scumbags around. It's like you and picking your friends. You pick friends who are like you for the most part. Not a bunch of jerks who drive you up the wall and have nothing in common with you. Jesus is the one who can make you right, cleanse you, so that you can meet God in an acceptable condition. The he died for your sins thing. That's what it's all about. Making you clean enough to be able to meet with God and live in his house.
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So you're telling me no murderer in history has ever gone to heaven then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


There is a difference between someone who is truly repentant, and someone just gaming the system. God isn't a dummy, he knows the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38131475


All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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Would you consider killing people for your government for no reason good judgement? What about Charlie Manson? If he is honestly repenting to Jesus, does he get to go to heaven now?
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What if I love God and my neighbor, but I think Jesus was a failure? Am I going to heaven, under your system?
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Hell, because you don't know who the boss is. You think it's you. You're wrong. Some people have to be shown who the boss is the hard way. Maybe you're going to one of them.

When you go into work today, walk up the boss and tell him he's just jerkoff and a nobody, flip him off, tell him to kiss your ass, see what he says. We all know what would happen. You think Jesus would react any differently?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38131475


I do know who the boss is, I'm just not fully clear on where Jesus fits into that, and why we can't just worship God himself directly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


He fits in because God can't have anything to do with you. He can't tolerate your sin or mine. It's like if you're a queer and your dad disowns you because he can't deal with it. Maybe you think that's wrong. It doesn't matter what you think, that's the way it is. He doesn't keep scumbags around. It's like you and picking your friends. You pick friends who are like you for the most part. Not a bunch of jerks who drive you up the wall and have nothing in common with you. Jesus is the one who can make you right, cleanse you, so that you can meet God in an acceptable condition. The he died for your sins thing. That's what it's all about. Making you clean enough to be able to meet with God and live in his house.
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That actually makes some sense, but

So no human being on earth before 1BC has ever got into heaven?

What about all the people God was kicking it with earlier in the bible? That doesn't make much sense, there's lots of evidence that God did associate with us directly. Did people like not sin before Jesus came or something?
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There is a difference between someone who is truly repentant, and someone just gaming the system. God isn't a dummy, he knows the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38131475


All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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So IRAQ was out to kill us? Really? Do you honestly believe that? What about Libya?
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No I don't. I believe an evil man, a Skull and Bones lucifarian masquerading as a Christian led us all into that. That's why we're supposed to be on the lookout for wolves in sheep's clothing. What happened in that regard was a disgusting failure, because the churches are full of wolves in sheep's clothing and jewified idiots, stooges for the Synagogue of Satan. Believe me, I don't like them any more than you do. The difference is, I don't believe a wolf in sheep's clothing or a jewified idiot to be a reflection on Jesus or his teachings. They are the antithesis of both.
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All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
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No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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So IRAQ was out to kill us? Really? Do you honestly believe that? What about Libya?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


No I don't. I believe an evil man, a Skull and Bones lucifarian masquerading as a Christian led us all into that. That's why we're supposed to be on the lookout for wolves in sheep's clothing. What happened in that regard was a disgusting failure, because the churches are full of wolves in sheep's clothing and jewified idiots, stooges for the Synagogue of Satan. Believe me, I don't like them any more than you do. The difference is, I don't believe a wolf in sheep's clothing or a jewified idiot to be a reflection on Jesus or his teachings. They are the antithesis of both.
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What about the troops themselves? Do you think that's why they're killing themselves in record numbers?
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All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
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No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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So IRAQ was out to kill us? Really? Do you honestly believe that? What about Libya?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


No I don't. I believe an evil man, a Skull and Bones lucifarian masquerading as a Christian led us all into that. That's why we're supposed to be on the lookout for wolves in sheep's clothing. What happened in that regard was a disgusting failure, because the churches are full of wolves in sheep's clothing and jewified idiots, stooges for the Synagogue of Satan. Believe me, I don't like them any more than you do. The difference is, I don't believe a wolf in sheep's clothing or a jewified idiot to be a reflection on Jesus or his teachings. They are the antithesis of both.
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Doesn't the 10 commandments say not to worship any God, but God himself? He doesn't mention his son or anything in there.
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The only kinds of people that commit acts of mass murder are the outliers of society.

Many on this forum don't recognize an outlier because they converse with them every single day in threads like this one.

Fact is: Most people just want to survive in this world.

Nutjobs get derailed off the peaceful stream of consciousness that a majority of global citizens share.

Instead of expressing sympathy, they peddle conspiracy theories, or use it as a soapbox to criticize American foreign policy.

You can rationalize it anyway you wish, call me one of "them," and shout me down with some paranoid diatribe about puppetmasters and mind control, but it doesn't change the fact that you've fallen so far into the abyss of hatred that you're no better than the strawmen you attack on a daily basis.

Most of you are peaceful people, I know, but are severely misguided in how you process the world. An orange really is just an orange a majority of the time.
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All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
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No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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So IRAQ was out to kill us? Really? Do you honestly believe that? What about Libya?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744


No I don't. I believe an evil man, a Skull and Bones lucifarian masquerading as a Christian led us all into that. That's why we're supposed to be on the lookout for wolves in sheep's clothing. What happened in that regard was a disgusting failure, because the churches are full of wolves in sheep's clothing and jewified idiots, stooges for the Synagogue of Satan. Believe me, I don't like them any more than you do. The difference is, I don't believe a wolf in sheep's clothing or a jewified idiot to be a reflection on Jesus or his teachings. They are the antithesis of both.
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Do you think maybe theres a reason why the churches are full of evil? Maybe it has something to do with their belief system itself. Maybe its totally natural because they're built on bullshit and they know it at the high levels.
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The only kinds of people that commit acts of mass murder are the outliers of society.

Many on this forum don't recognize an outlier because they converse with them every single day in threads like this one.

Fact is: Most people just want to survive in this world.

Nutjobs get derailed off the peaceful stream of consciousness that a majority of global citizens share.

Instead of expressing sympathy, they peddle conspiracy theories, or use it as a soapbox to criticize American foreign policy.

You can rationalize it anyway you wish, call me one of "them," and shout me down with some paranoid diatribe about puppetmasters and mind control, but it doesn't change the fact that you've fallen so far into the abyss of hatred that you're no better than the strawmen you attack on a daily basis.

Most of you are peaceful people, I know, but are severely misguided in how you process the world. An orange really is just an orange a majority of the time.
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So if you don't believe Jesus is God himself in the flesh, you are a hateful mass murderer in the works. I get it.
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typical right wing christian conservative Americans
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There is a difference between someone who is truly repentant, and someone just gaming the system. God isn't a dummy, he knows the difference.
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All I know is that Jesus said turn the other cheek to your enemy when they strike you, so how are there so many Christians in the military? Doesn't it drive you crazy to have to use double-think like that?
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No it doesn't drive me crazy at all. Your ignorance drives you crazy. Jesus was also reasonable. The pharisees came out to him one day and gave him a hard time for healing people on the sabbath when nobody was supposed to be doing any work. Jesus told the story of the sheep that fell over the cliff on the sabbath and how any shepherd worth a shit climbs down and gets him, and returns the sheep to the flock.

He didn't deny he was working on the sabbath, he didn't try to claim he was exempt because he's Jesus. What he was saying was, sometimes things happen that the law is not sufficient to address. On those occasions we must use a little common sense and good judgement.

This idea that the law is stiff and rigid, you break it you buy it in every possible case is wrong. That's your jew pharisee interpretation. Jesus' interpretation is that when things get a little strange and enter grey areas, you make a judgement call. Taking a slap in the face from some douchebag, no real harm done. Somebody out to kill you? now we begin to wander out of slap in the face territory and maybe it's time to put common sense and good judgement into the picture. There is no problem here.
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Would you consider killing people for your government for no reason good judgement? What about Charlie Manson? If he is honestly repenting to Jesus, does he get to go to heaven now?
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yes, because he isn not fat. If you are fat, you can't go to heaven and go straight to hell.
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Hell, because you don't know who the boss is. You think it's you. You're wrong. Some people have to be shown who the boss is the hard way. Maybe you're going to one of them.

When you go into work today, walk up the boss and tell him he's just jerkoff and a nobody, flip him off, tell him to kiss your ass, see what he says. We all know what would happen. You think Jesus would react any differently?
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I do know who the boss is, I'm just not fully clear on where Jesus fits into that, and why we can't just worship God himself directly.
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He fits in because God can't have anything to do with you. He can't tolerate your sin or mine. It's like if you're a queer and your dad disowns you because he can't deal with it. Maybe you think that's wrong. It doesn't matter what you think, that's the way it is. He doesn't keep scumbags around. It's like you and picking your friends. You pick friends who are like you for the most part. Not a bunch of jerks who drive you up the wall and have nothing in common with you. Jesus is the one who can make you right, cleanse you, so that you can meet God in an acceptable condition. The he died for your sins thing. That's what it's all about. Making you clean enough to be able to meet with God and live in his house.
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That actually makes some sense, but

So no human being on earth before 1BC has ever got into heaven?

What about all the people God was kicking it with earlier in the bible? That doesn't make much sense, there's lots of evidence that God did associate with us directly. Did people like not sin before Jesus came or something?
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I'm not entirely certain about that. What we do know is that there were people who knew of the existence of Jesus long before he was born. The prophets spoke about him. It wasn't like he just showed up one day. They had known he was coming and for what purpose 2000 years before he hit the scene. We never met him either live and in the flesh, but we know of him. They knew of him too. Why would there be a difference? Jesus taught us a bunch of things we have to stick with. Maybe all that was required of them, was to stick with what little they knew of him at the time and that was going to be good enough. Maybe we carry a heavier burden than they did. Maybe they were the ones who had it easy. All they had was 10 commandments to follow.

What has always struck me is the statement that goes something like, "it will be better for you on the day of judgement if you never heard of me than if you did and rejected me." And that kind of speaks to what I was saying above. Why would it be better if they're both going into the fiery pit, the same place? What that tells me is that it is not as simple a matter as just heaven or hell. It tells me that some who get punished, are going to get punished worse. Some who get rewarded, will get rewarded bigger. And there may be a whole range in between.

I can't give you a definite answer on that one. I would recommend you don't gamble on the unknowns. You stick with the knowns. Be an unrepentant scumbag you go hell. Be a dedicated disciple and go to heaven. Falling somewhere in the middle is taking a risk.
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I do know who the boss is, I'm just not fully clear on where Jesus fits into that, and why we can't just worship God himself directly.
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He fits in because God can't have anything to do with you. He can't tolerate your sin or mine. It's like if you're a queer and your dad disowns you because he can't deal with it. Maybe you think that's wrong. It doesn't matter what you think, that's the way it is. He doesn't keep scumbags around. It's like you and picking your friends. You pick friends who are like you for the most part. Not a bunch of jerks who drive you up the wall and have nothing in common with you. Jesus is the one who can make you right, cleanse you, so that you can meet God in an acceptable condition. The he died for your sins thing. That's what it's all about. Making you clean enough to be able to meet with God and live in his house.
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That actually makes some sense, but

So no human being on earth before 1BC has ever got into heaven?

What about all the people God was kicking it with earlier in the bible? That doesn't make much sense, there's lots of evidence that God did associate with us directly. Did people like not sin before Jesus came or something?
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I'm not entirely certain about that. What we do know is that there were people who knew of the existence of Jesus long before he was born. The prophets spoke about him. It wasn't like he just showed up one day. They had known he was coming and for what purpose 2000 years before he hit the scene. We never met him either live and in the flesh, but we know of him. They knew of him too. Why would there be a difference? Jesus taught us a bunch of things we have to stick with. Maybe all that was required of them, was to stick with what little they knew of him at the time and that was going to be good enough. Maybe we carry a heavier burden than they did. Maybe they were the ones who had it easy. All they had was 10 commandments to follow.

What has always struck me is the statement that goes something like, "it will be better for you on the day of judgement if you never heard of me than if you did and rejected me." And that kind of speaks to what I was saying above. Why would it be better if they're both going into the fiery pit, the same place? What that tells me is that it is not as simple a matter as just heaven or hell. It tells me that some who get punished, are going to get punished worse. Some who get rewarded, will get rewarded bigger. And there may be a whole range in between.

I can't give you a definite answer on that one. I would recommend you don't gamble on the unknowns. You stick with the knowns. Be an unrepentant scumbag you go hell. Be a dedicated disciple and go to heaven. Falling somewhere in the middle is taking a risk.
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Its a two way street. What if heaven doesn't exist, and its just a lie to keep people from revolting against their slave masters, or settling scores when you get a terminal illness?
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I do know who the boss is, I'm just not fully clear on where Jesus fits into that, and why we can't just worship God himself directly.
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He fits in because God can't have anything to do with you. He can't tolerate your sin or mine. It's like if you're a queer and your dad disowns you because he can't deal with it. Maybe you think that's wrong. It doesn't matter what you think, that's the way it is. He doesn't keep scumbags around. It's like you and picking your friends. You pick friends who are like you for the most part. Not a bunch of jerks who drive you up the wall and have nothing in common with you. Jesus is the one who can make you right, cleanse you, so that you can meet God in an acceptable condition. The he died for your sins thing. That's what it's all about. Making you clean enough to be able to meet with God and live in his house.
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That actually makes some sense, but

So no human being on earth before 1BC has ever got into heaven?

What about all the people God was kicking it with earlier in the bible? That doesn't make much sense, there's lots of evidence that God did associate with us directly. Did people like not sin before Jesus came or something?
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I'm not entirely certain about that. What we do know is that there were people who knew of the existence of Jesus long before he was born. The prophets spoke about him. It wasn't like he just showed up one day. They had known he was coming and for what purpose 2000 years before he hit the scene. We never met him either live and in the flesh, but we know of him. They knew of him too. Why would there be a difference? Jesus taught us a bunch of things we have to stick with. Maybe all that was required of them, was to stick with what little they knew of him at the time and that was going to be good enough. Maybe we carry a heavier burden than they did. Maybe they were the ones who had it easy. All they had was 10 commandments to follow.

What has always struck me is the statement that goes something like, "it will be better for you on the day of judgement if you never heard of me than if you did and rejected me." And that kind of speaks to what I was saying above. Why would it be better if they're both going into the fiery pit, the same place? What that tells me is that it is not as simple a matter as just heaven or hell. It tells me that some who get punished, are going to get punished worse. Some who get rewarded, will get rewarded bigger. And there may be a whole range in between.

I can't give you a definite answer on that one. I would recommend you don't gamble on the unknowns. You stick with the knowns. Be an unrepentant scumbag you go hell. Be a dedicated disciple and go to heaven. Falling somewhere in the middle is taking a risk.
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Yeah he was talked about in the bible before he came. It was written that he was to build a house in the Lord's name, and would become the Son of God. I just don't think he got that done, and just started rolling with the Son of God thing once Peter brought it up. Before that, he was referred to as the Son of Man. I don't know if I believe that he became a Son of God like David did.

It was written that he would go against God and be flogged to death by his own ppl. That is in there if you look it up.
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I do know who the boss is, I'm just not fully clear on where Jesus fits into that, and why we can't just worship God himself directly.
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He fits in because God can't have anything to do with you. He can't tolerate your sin or mine. It's like if you're a queer and your dad disowns you because he can't deal with it. Maybe you think that's wrong. It doesn't matter what you think, that's the way it is. He doesn't keep scumbags around. It's like you and picking your friends. You pick friends who are like you for the most part. Not a bunch of jerks who drive you up the wall and have nothing in common with you. Jesus is the one who can make you right, cleanse you, so that you can meet God in an acceptable condition. The he died for your sins thing. That's what it's all about. Making you clean enough to be able to meet with God and live in his house.
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That actually makes some sense, but

So no human being on earth before 1BC has ever got into heaven?

What about all the people God was kicking it with earlier in the bible? That doesn't make much sense, there's lots of evidence that God did associate with us directly. Did people like not sin before Jesus came or something?
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I'm not entirely certain about that. What we do know is that there were people who knew of the existence of Jesus long before he was born. The prophets spoke about him. It wasn't like he just showed up one day. They had known he was coming and for what purpose 2000 years before he hit the scene. We never met him either live and in the flesh, but we know of him. They knew of him too. Why would there be a difference? Jesus taught us a bunch of things we have to stick with. Maybe all that was required of them, was to stick with what little they knew of him at the time and that was going to be good enough. Maybe we carry a heavier burden than they did. Maybe they were the ones who had it easy. All they had was 10 commandments to follow.

What has always struck me is the statement that goes something like, "it will be better for you on the day of judgement if you never heard of me than if you did and rejected me." And that kind of speaks to what I was saying above. Why would it be better if they're both going into the fiery pit, the same place? What that tells me is that it is not as simple a matter as just heaven or hell. It tells me that some who get punished, are going to get punished worse. Some who get rewarded, will get rewarded bigger. And there may be a whole range in between.

I can't give you a definite answer on that one. I would recommend you don't gamble on the unknowns. You stick with the knowns. Be an unrepentant scumbag you go hell. Be a dedicated disciple and go to heaven. Falling somewhere in the middle is taking a risk.
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I'm a better person than most Christians, so I don't get how I'm an unrepentant scumbag. I repent and feel bad if I fuck up, but as an adult, I usually use self control and just don't fuck up to begin with. I have high morals and values. I just have seen evidence to suggest that Jesus is the Son of God. He is a guy who claimed he was.
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He fits in because God can't have anything to do with you. He can't tolerate your sin or mine. It's like if you're a queer and your dad disowns you because he can't deal with it. Maybe you think that's wrong. It doesn't matter what you think, that's the way it is. He doesn't keep scumbags around. It's like you and picking your friends. You pick friends who are like you for the most part. Not a bunch of jerks who drive you up the wall and have nothing in common with you. Jesus is the one who can make you right, cleanse you, so that you can meet God in an acceptable condition. The he died for your sins thing. That's what it's all about. Making you clean enough to be able to meet with God and live in his house.
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That actually makes some sense, but

So no human being on earth before 1BC has ever got into heaven?

What about all the people God was kicking it with earlier in the bible? That doesn't make much sense, there's lots of evidence that God did associate with us directly. Did people like not sin before Jesus came or something?
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I'm not entirely certain about that. What we do know is that there were people who knew of the existence of Jesus long before he was born. The prophets spoke about him. It wasn't like he just showed up one day. They had known he was coming and for what purpose 2000 years before he hit the scene. We never met him either live and in the flesh, but we know of him. They knew of him too. Why would there be a difference? Jesus taught us a bunch of things we have to stick with. Maybe all that was required of them, was to stick with what little they knew of him at the time and that was going to be good enough. Maybe we carry a heavier burden than they did. Maybe they were the ones who had it easy. All they had was 10 commandments to follow.

What has always struck me is the statement that goes something like, "it will be better for you on the day of judgement if you never heard of me than if you did and rejected me." And that kind of speaks to what I was saying above. Why would it be better if they're both going into the fiery pit, the same place? What that tells me is that it is not as simple a matter as just heaven or hell. It tells me that some who get punished, are going to get punished worse. Some who get rewarded, will get rewarded bigger. And there may be a whole range in between.

I can't give you a definite answer on that one. I would recommend you don't gamble on the unknowns. You stick with the knowns. Be an unrepentant scumbag you go hell. Be a dedicated disciple and go to heaven. Falling somewhere in the middle is taking a risk.
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I'm a better person than most Christians, so I don't get how I'm an unrepentant scumbag. I repent and feel bad if I fuck up, but as an adult, I usually use self control and just don't fuck up to begin with. I have high morals and values. I just have seen evidence to suggest that Jesus is the Son of God. He is a guy who claimed he was.
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ok guys take your argument to another thread it has no place here. or be banished....
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Guns and Christians have been the planned targets from the start.

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The only kinds of people that commit acts of mass murder are the outliers of society.

Many on this forum don't recognize an outlier because they converse with them every single day in threads like this one.

Fact is: Most people just want to survive in this world.

Nutjobs get derailed off the peaceful stream of consciousness that a majority of global citizens share.

Instead of expressing sympathy, they peddle conspiracy theories, or use it as a soapbox to criticize American foreign policy.

You can rationalize it anyway you wish, call me one of "them," and shout me down with some paranoid diatribe about puppetmasters and mind control, but it doesn't change the fact that you've fallen so far into the abyss of hatred that you're no better than the strawmen you attack on a daily basis.

Most of you are peaceful people, I know, but are severely misguided in how you process the world. An orange really is just an orange a majority of the time.
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Hey PM me, I got a bridge I wanna sell you. You sound like one of Bernie Madoff's investors.
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Guns and Christians have been the planned targets from the start.


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Hide yo bibles Obamas comin for you.

Get ready to dodge those guillitines guys.
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ok guys take your argument to another thread it has no place here. or be banished....
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Ok the new thread is called "I don't think I believe Jesus is really the Son of God - Ask me a question"
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Lol christian, dude if they did do this they WERENT CHRISTIAN IN THE FIRST PLACE! EVER!
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kitty Yeah but that requires common sense to understand, and as ever that's in mighty short supply.
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What are their citations of proof?

How are they saying they know this?
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They hate Christian conservatives, that is all they need when they say it.

If they were honest, they would know that most of these crimes, are not carried out by any type of Conservative.

If you can find me a real conservative that is doing some of these I want to see them, make sure they are a real Christian Conservative. A Christian Conservative may have guns, but you don't hear about them going on a shooting spree! Guns are for protections in case of attack or going hunting.

I was a democrat that shot that senator!

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