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Chris Matthews: 'Domestic Terrorists tend to be on the far right'

 
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Yeah, because the KKK and the NLF is kidnapping people, holding them for ransom, then plant bombs in trashcans. Stop being fucking stupid.
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Are some of you people retarded? Serious question.

You said there were no Christian terrorist groups; yet I showed that there have been and still are. And yes, they kidnapped, murdered, ransomed, bombed... you name it. That's why they're considered terrorist groups you tard.
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You looze ugin dumarse!

Pardon me...I just get so sick of stupid people like you. I debate you dumbasses day after day...trying to pull your heads out of your asses over and over and over....I guess I just get frustrated.
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So you banned me for no reason then. Frankly you're the one with your head up your ass. Maybe someday you'll wake up; but my hopes aren't high.
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Got sick of your mouth...like I am right now.
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Now there's freedom for ya!
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Got sick of your mouth...like I am right now.
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Understandable, but you could have just asked me to shut up instead of getting all hysterical with the hammer.
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Bill Ayers was born in December 1944 and was raised in a Chicago suburb. In the mid-1960s he taught at a radical alternative school -- part of the "free school movement" -- where students addressed teachers by their first names, and where no grades or report cards were given. By age 21, Ayers had become the director of that school. In 1968 he earned a B.A. in American Studies from the University of Michigan.

In the late Sixties, Ayers became a leader of the Weather Underground (WU), a splinter faction of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). Characterizing WU as “an American Red Army,” Ayers summed up the organization's ideology as follows: “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents.” One of Ayers' fellow WU leaders was Bernardine Dohrn, the woman who would later become his wife.

In a July 29, 1969 speech which he delivered at the University of Oregon, Ayers boasted of SDS's role in the Venceremos Brigades, a project initiated by the Cuban intelligence agency to recruit and train American leftists as “brigadistas” capable of waging guerrilla warfare.

Ayers was an active participant in the 1969 “Days of Rage” riots in Chicago, which were led by WU's antecedent group, Weatherman. In the mayhem, nearly 300 members of the organization engaged in vandalism, arson, and vicious attacks against police and civilians alike. Their immediate objective was to spread their anti-war, anti-American message. Their long-term goal, however, was to cause the collapse of the United States and to create, in its stead, a new communist society over which they themselves would rule. With regard to those Americans who might refuse to embrace communism, Ayers and his comrades -- including Bernardine Dohrn, Mark Rudd, Linda Evans, Jeff Jones, and numerous others -- proposed that such resisters should be sent to reeducation camps and killed. The terrorists estimated that it would be necessary to eliminate some 25 million people in this fashion, so as to advance the revolution.

In his 2001 memoir Fugitive Days, Ayers recounts his life as a Sixties radical and boasts that he “participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972.” Of the day he bombed the Pentagon, Ayers writes, “Everything was absolutely ideal.... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.” He further recalls his fascination with the fact that "a good bomb" could render even "big buildings and wide streets ... fragile and destructible," leaving behind a "majestic scene" of utter destruction.

All told, Ayers and the Weather Underground were responsible for 30 bombings aimed at destroying the defense and security infrastructures of the U.S. "I don't regret setting bombs," said Ayers in 2001, "I feel we didn't do enough." Contemplating whether or not he might again use bombs against the U.S. sometime in the future, he wrote: “I can’t imagine entirely dismissing the possibility.”

In 1970, Ayers’ then-girlfriend Diana Oughton, along with Weatherman members Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, were killed when a bomb they were constructing exploded unexpectedly. That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by hundreds of Army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Ayers himself attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, “tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too.” Notably, Ayers' fingerprints were found at the bomb-making site, along with an assortment of anti-personnel weapons, stabbing implements, C-4 plastic explosive, and dozens of Marxist-Leninist publications.

After the death of his girlfriend, Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn spent the rest of the decade as fugitives running from the FBI.

In 1974 Ayers co-authored -- along with Dohrn, Jeff Jones, and Celia Sojourn -- a book titled Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism. This book contained the following statements:

"We are a guerrilla organization. We are communist women and men ... deeply affected by the historic events of our time in the struggle against U.S. imperialism."
"Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from the inside."
"The only path to the final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism is revolutionary war."
"Revolutionary war will be complicated and protracted. It includes mass struggle and clandestine struggle, peaceful and violent, political and economic, cultural and military, where all forms are developed in harmony with the armed struggle."
"Without mass struggle there can be no revolution.
Without armed struggle there can be no victory."
"We need a revolutionary communist party in order to lead the struggle, give coherence and direction to the fight, seize power and build the new society."
"Our job is to tap the discontent seething in many sectors of the population, to find allies everywhere people are hungry or angry, to mobilize poor and working people against imperialism."
"Socialism is the total opposite of capitalism/imperialism. It is the rejection of empire and white supremacy. Socialism is the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie, the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and the eradication of the social system based on profit."
The title Prairie Fire was an allusion to Mao Zedong's 1930 observation that "a single spark can start a prairie fire." Ayers and his co-authors dedicated the book to a bevy of violent, America-hating revolutionaries -- including Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin who had killed Robert F. Kennedy.

In 1980 Ayers and Dohrn surrendered to law-enforcement authorities, but all charges against them were later dropped due to an “improper surveillance” technicality -- government authorities had failed to get a warrant for some of their surveillance. Said Ayers regarding this stroke of good fortune: “Guilty as sin, free as a bird. America is a great country.”
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Now there's freedom for ya!
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Yup; as long as you say the right things (aka no left-wing talk 'round these parts ya hear?)
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You missed most of his bullshit. Posting full copyrighted articles and various other methods of "debate".
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Um, I cited my source - and I never took claim of it. I think you're quite overreacting simply because you didn't like what it had to say.
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Bullshit - you asked for a source and I gave it to you. Here it is AGAIN:

[link to www.splcenter.org]

[link to www.splcenter.org]

[link to www.splcenter.org]

Also, have you asked everyone else for their sources? What about the guy just in the last post with all the Bill Ayers stuff? Or do you only pretend to be a mod with opinions you don't agree with?
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Re: Chris Matthews: 'Domestic Terrorists tend to be on the far right'
You mean just like the guy above did with the Bill Ayers article?
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What Matthews is really trying to say is that a domestic terrorist is anyone who disagrees with the destructive agenda of his beloved gay black President. I can certainly understand why a slavish, foam-at-the-mouth imbecile like Matthews would become a cheerleader for a Marxist Police State.
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Batshit crazies who kill and maim have no political leaning.
Matthews is a douche.
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Yes...with the post above I just nailed your ass.
 Quoting: Chip


You're now sourcing things for other people - simply because it's something you agree with. Now that's funny. 5a
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Chris Matthews!! LOL, I'm surprised he was able to remove his skull from his anus long enough to spew such utter nonsense.. What a waste of oxygen.
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Bullshit - you asked for a source and I gave it to you. Here it is AGAIN:

[link to www.splcenter.org]

[link to www.splcenter.org]

[link to www.splcenter.org]

Also, have you asked everyone else for their sources? What about the guy just in the last post with all the Bill Ayers stuff? Or do you only pretend to be a mod with opinions you don't agree with?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38165803


Your list has MANY lone wolfs and people who never actually terrorized and quite a few that would be considered loons by anyone watching.

You should edit down your list a bit for comparative purposes. A lot of what you post is akin to calling the Westburo Baptist Church right wing. Wereas most all conservatives would punch every one of them in the face given the chance.

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Your list has MANY lone wolfs and people who never actually terrorized and quite a few that would be considered loons by anyone watching.

You should edit down your list a bit for comparative purposes. A lot of what you post is akin to calling the Westburo Baptist Church right wing. Wereas most all conservatives would punch every one of them in the face given the chance.

cheers
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I don't disagree; but nobody has been specific in groups vs individuals; but terrorist acts are terrorist acts.
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Re: Chris Matthews: 'Domestic Terrorists tend to be on the far right'
This mother fucker has never heard of Obama's best bud Bill Ayers
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Apparently Sarah Palin did it?
[link to moonbattery.com]

She did that Giffords thing and now this too. That pentecostal-charismatic sure do get around.
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This mother fucker has never heard of Obama's best bud Bill Ayers
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Shhh you're not to supposed to talk about the POTUS having terrorist mentors.

Fly ass ni**a drones!
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SPLC!
lolatu

Are you the pedophile director of SPLC, ACtard?

1rof1
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I'll let you know after you pull your dick out of your sister
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Re: Chris Matthews: 'Domestic Terrorists tend to be on the far right'
Demand a refund for any political education you ever paid for.

If you want to define political system on a strict 2 dimensional line, anarchy is on the far right, and tyranny on the far left.

Left to right, it reads "More government to no government".
 Quoting: The Comedian


Wow, you must have a damaged or undeveloped frontal lobe. Anarchy by far and large is the most extreme of the left, not the right. And the opposite of anarchy isn't 'tyranny' - tyranny can apply to near any ideology, it simply means oppressive power. The actual opposite of anarchy is authoritarianism...
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Demand a refund for any political education you ever paid for.

If you want to define political system on a strict 2 dimensional line, anarchy is on the far right, and tyranny on the far left.

Left to right, it reads "More government to no government".
 Quoting: The Comedian


Wow, you must have a damaged or undeveloped frontal lobe. Anarchy by far and large is the most extreme of the left, not the right. And the opposite of anarchy isn't 'tyranny' - tyranny can apply to near any ideology, it simply means oppressive power. The actual opposite of anarchy is authoritarianism...
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political-spectr
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There's a little more to it to be complete. There's the economic left/right and the social left/right that can be put on an x/y graph.

like here...

[link to www.politicalcompass.org]

cheers
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I didn't have to go "technical" to point out how wrong the Obamabot was. rofl

Thanks anyway.
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The only thing you keep pointing out is your own ignorance... the picture you posted shows types of governments - not political ideologies. Any of those except anarchy can be socialistic, capitalistic, authoritarian, totalitarian or anywhere in between depending on the economic or social aspect. You can have a democratic socialist government - or you can have a fascist capitalist monarchy (ie dictatorship). There's even such a thing as authoritarian democracy like Bonapartism.
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I didn't have to go "technical" to point out how wrong the Obamabot was. rofl

Thanks anyway.
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The only thing you keep pointing out is your own ignorance... the picture you posted shows types of governments - not political ideologies. Any of those except anarchy can be socialistic, capitalistic, authoritarian, totalitarian or anywhere in between depending on the economic or social aspect. You can have a democratic socialist government - or you can have a fascist capitalist monarchy (ie dictatorship). There's even such a thing as authoritarian democracy like Bonapartism.
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I believe the picture was intended to show the spectrum and that right is less government and left is more government. Too far either way in a bad deal.

cheers
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"The enemy will never attack where you are strongest...He will attack where you are weakest. If you do not know your weakest point, be certain, your enemy will." Sun Tzu
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I didn't have to go "technical" to point out how wrong the Obamabot was. rofl

Thanks anyway.
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The only thing you keep pointing out is your own ignorance... the picture you posted shows types of governments - not political ideologies. Any of those except anarchy can be socialistic, capitalistic, authoritarian, totalitarian or anywhere in between depending on the economic or social aspect. You can have a democratic socialist government - or you can have a fascist capitalist monarchy (ie dictatorship). There's even such a thing as authoritarian democracy like Bonapartism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38155342


AC, you should got take this test. I'm interested where you land....

Thread: Where are you on the Political Spectrum? (Test and Poll)

Thanks!

cheers
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"The enemy will never attack where you are strongest...He will attack where you are weakest. If you do not know your weakest point, be certain, your enemy will." Sun Tzu
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Black panthers
Weather underground
American Indian movement
Patty Hearst
Lee Harvey

ALL LEFTIST!!!
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BLack Panthers are terrorists?
American Indian Movement is terrorists!?!?!!?!?
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Left wing killers are lionized by their allies on the left re: tee-shirts of Mao and Che.

Left wing terrorists get prestigious teaching positions at our leading Universities.

Jane Fonda who at the very least is guilty of aiding and abetting the enemy is feted on the left as one of one hundred important women of the century instead she should be rotting in jail somewhere and still the left blames the right.

I can't think of a single right winger who has received acclaim for murder.
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Jane Fonda?!!?!?!! LOL
Your one of those dumb fools that think she aided the North Vietnamese huh? All she did was pull a publicity stunt charade and smoke pot all day idiot. You idiots blame her and the hippys? The whole hippy movement was indoctrinated with LSD to KEEP THEM FROM REVOLTING. Tim Leary was a spook all along their drug guru. So stfu idiots, you lost that war period and the youth of the 60s wouldn't have indeed ended it like you claim but they were high and fucking all day and their protests were "peacefull".

I swear too many idiots here considering this is a conspiracy forum. You all utter the same bullshit rhetoric from both the left and right.
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Socialist / Communist dictators like that ones that killed over 100,000 million of their own (disarmed) people the last century tend to be far left.
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And nut cases like Chris tend to be on the far left...Imagine that.. 5a
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You are retarded, if anything Maddow is farther to the left then Mathews. Christ is just a centrist lefty like most dems. Far left is pretty much non existent in the US.
Chomsky is a candidate by they also say hes just another smoke screen shill....
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Black panthers
Weather underground
American Indian movement
Patty Hearst
Lee Harvey

ALL LEFTIST!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28769280


Oswald wasn't left or right. He was exactly what he said, "I'm a patsy."
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Exactly
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Ahh, wittle conservatard mod doesn't like facts?

Here you go; every single one is sourced here:

[link to www.splcenter.org]
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I'm fine with the facts. Are you --> [link to www.freerepublic.com]
 Quoting: Chip


Sure am; and that's still not as many as I listed... and I didn't name a single one that wasn't domestic - you had to go international just to get a dozen.
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Most of your post is about neonazis and klan, neither of which are conservative in any mind but those like your own.

Sorry, I refuse any responsibility for them.

On the other hand self defense against an invasive aggressor is allowed, even if the aggressor has better pr or control of the media.
Far more deaths from wets and basketball americans who are by definition liberal and anticaucasians, I know it's intentional and thats that. Personally I dont give a shit about your opinion or give it any credibility
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Nationalism is not a functional component of wing-ism.
Wing-ism misses the point.
Nations are intended to be what they chose for themselves, not what some extranational committee says they should.
The problem is that the left had elected itself to define and judge everything but themselves.
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Fascism is typically a right-wing trait on the social scale; of which the opposite in the most extreme left-wing social scale is anarchism.
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Demand a refund for any political education you ever paid for.

If you want to define political system on a strict 2 dimensional line, anarchy is on the far right, and tyranny on the far left.

Left to right, it reads "More government to no government".
 Quoting: The Comedian


Maybe, but anarchy is used far more often to result in dictatorships and monarchies than resulting in republics or even democracies.
Any uneducated mob can be an anarchy, but usually not for long.
Anarchy is approved and promoted by the left not because it is 'right wing' but usually it works out 'right' for their goals, almost every so called anarchist has affiliations with socialist leaders and ideology, if not outright financial support





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