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Jeff Bauman is a FRAUD. So is his dad. They're all actors.

 
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
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I agree 5 stars and

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Jeez I wonder why there are so many vets missing both their legs after having them blown off from IEDs? I guess they should all be dead as they had their legs blown off?

Hmm maybe if they are being used for actors because they had both their legs blown off they are really zombies because if you get your legs blown off you die real quick?

Jeez I feel like a dumb fuck.............

Think for yourselves, please. Just because an armchair doctor tells you that you will bleed to death if you lose both your legs does not make it true.

Unfortunately there are way too many vets now missing both their legs from Iraq and Afghanistan to lay lie to the fact that you can survive losing both your legs.
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The vets who return with two missing legs most likely had them amputated in triage. If the picture shown with Jeff Bauman's legs like it shows is accurate, OP is right. He would have bled out really quickly, way before anyone around him came to their senses after the blast to place a tourniquet.

My 2 cents.

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The vets who return with two missing legs most likely had them amputated in triage. If the picture shown with Jeff Bauman's legs like it shows is accurate, OP is right. He would have bled out really quickly, way before anyone around him came to their senses after the blast to place a tourniquet.

My 2 cents.

machobird
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So by your logic they had their legs removed after the fact because they weren't totally destroyed by an explosion? In the case of a vet who gets hit out on patrol has to be stabilised, evacuated and then transported to a triage which takes time vs an explosion that takes place right next to the medical tent staffed by fully trained doctors rather than just medics and yet someone who is injured on a battlefield has a greater chance of living.

I applaud everyone for trying to find fault in the official story but this actor bullshit has to stop. This is distracting from the real conspiracy which involves prior knowledge, mercenaries and a certain foreign country that had planned to send help before the bombs had even detonated.
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Tard.

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stfu

The human body is designed to shut down blood flow after massive, traumatic injury like that.

Stop insulting your betters, you kook.
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It is entirely possible there was a conspiracy involving rogue elements of our government, etc. We cannot prove that any of the dead/injured were actors. So floating this bs out there only serves to offend people that might otherwise consider alternatives to the official narrative. What if they aren't actors? What if the gov't did this and people really did die and suffer horrific wounds? It is not worth speculating on that aspect of this. Let's assume the injuries are for real and focus on who did it and why.
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stfu

The human body is designed to shut down blood flow after massive, traumatic injury like that.

Stop insulting your betters, you kook.
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you're saying a huge leg artery will seal iteslf and stop bleeding? that would explain why he was left alone to fend for himself while they "compressed" other victims legs to stop a bleed. I find the whole arguement illogical.
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
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Here's a similar case for you to think about:

The most seriously injured survivor of the July 7 London bombings has told how he was standing next to the terrorist ringleader as he detonated his device.
Daniel Biddle, 31, lost both legs, his left eye, his spleen and 87 pints of blood when Mohammed Sidique Khan killed himself and six other people at Edgware Road.

He told the inquests into the 52 who died in the 2005 atrocities that a 20 pence piece remains lodged in his thigh bone, and other shrapnel, including his door keys, was removed by surgeons.
Speaking at the Royal Courts of Justice on Monday, Mr Biddle said he was blown out of the westbound Circle Line train as he travelled to work as a construction manager.

He described how Khan, who got on the train at King's Cross, sat between 2m and 3m away from him before detonating his bomb by jerking a white cord.

Mr Biddle said: "The train entered the Tube tunnel, I looked around. As I looked around, he looked up and I saw a quick movement. Then there was a big white flash.



Read more: [link to www.smh.com.au]


When he woke up on the tracks, pinned down by a piece of carriage door or panel, he said his first thought was that he had "fallen out of the train".


"It was when I tried to move and I couldn't, and as the dust and smoke settled and the noises started, that I realised something bad had happened," he said.


He used his belt and shirt to make tourniquets in a bid to stem the flow of blood, but was handed a poorly equipped first aid kit with little more than gauze and bandages.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38376574


Hypovolemic Shock

Direct loss of effective circulating blood volume leading to:

A rapid, weak, thready pulse due to decreased blood flow combined with tachycardia

Cool, clammy skin due to vasoconstriction and stimulation of vasoconstriction

Rapid and shallow breathing due to sympathetic nervous system stimulation and acidosis

Hypothermia due to decreased perfusion and evaporation of sweat

Thirst and dry mouth, due to fluid depletion and
Cold and mottled skin (Livedo reticularis), especially extremities, due to insufficient perfusion of the skin

The severity of hemorrhagic shock can be graded on a 1-4 scale on the physical signs. This approximates to the effective loss of blood volume.


Vasoconstriction

is the narrowing of the blood vessels resulting from contraction of the muscular wall of the vessels, particularly the large arteries and small arterioles. The process is the opposite of vasodilation, the widening of blood vessels. The process is particularly important in staunching hemorrhage and acute blood loss. When blood vessels constrict, the flow of blood is restricted or decreased, thus, retaining body heat or increasing vascular resistance. Cutaneously, this makes the skin turn paler because less blood reaches the surface, reducing the radiation of heat. On a larger level, vasoconstriction is one mechanism by which the body regulates and maintains mean arterial pressure.
Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
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Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
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I gave you 5 stars OP, but the blast ripped 4 of them off.

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Those of you who think Jeff Bauman is an actor is a fucking moron. It's called reality. Pull you nose of out your crack pipe...Ass Wipe
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The vets who return with two missing legs most likely had them amputated in triage. If the picture shown with Jeff Bauman's legs like it shows is accurate, OP is right. He would have bled out really quickly, way before anyone around him came to their senses after the blast to place a tourniquet.

My 2 cents.

machobird
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Two tourniquets.
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38376574


Hypovolemic Shock

Direct loss of effective circulating blood volume leading to:

A rapid, weak, thready pulse due to decreased blood flow combined with tachycardia

Cool, clammy skin due to vasoconstriction and stimulation of vasoconstriction

Rapid and shallow breathing due to sympathetic nervous system stimulation and acidosis

Hypothermia due to decreased perfusion and evaporation of sweat

Thirst and dry mouth, due to fluid depletion and
Cold and mottled skin (Livedo reticularis), especially extremities, due to insufficient perfusion of the skin

The severity of hemorrhagic shock can be graded on a 1-4 scale on the physical signs. This approximates to the effective loss of blood volume.


Vasoconstriction

is the narrowing of the blood vessels resulting from contraction of the muscular wall of the vessels, particularly the large arteries and small arterioles. The process is the opposite of vasodilation, the widening of blood vessels. The process is particularly important in staunching hemorrhage and acute blood loss. When blood vessels constrict, the flow of blood is restricted or decreased, thus, retaining body heat or increasing vascular resistance. Cutaneously, this makes the skin turn paler because less blood reaches the surface, reducing the radiation of heat. On a larger level, vasoconstriction is one mechanism by which the body regulates and maintains mean arterial pressure.
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A friend of mine have been thru some wartimes, he says he have seen blown off feet and often there is no bleeding to speak of. Btw, the femoral is in the thigh. His legs went off below the knee.

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Jeez I wonder why there are so many vets missing both their legs after having them blown off from IEDs? I guess they should all be dead as they had their legs blown off?

Hmm maybe if they are being used for actors because they had both their legs blown off they are really zombies because if you get your legs blown off you die real quick?

Jeez I feel like a dumb fuck.............

Think for yourselves, please. Just because an armchair doctor tells you that you will bleed to death if you lose both your legs does not make it true.

Unfortunately there are way too many vets now missing both their legs from Iraq and Afghanistan to lay lie to the fact that you can survive losing both your legs.
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Correct. And when they lose their limbs in combat, they aren't close to a hospital immediately, yet alone the best hospitals, as those in Boston. Also they don't always have emergency medical personnel closeby, as they did at the marathon.

Jeff looked like he was dead sitting in that wheelchair. He was in shock. He was ashen. He's NOT an actor! He should have been lying down, but they did the best they could to get him to an ambulance, which was apparently around the corner.

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You ActorTards are a fucking embarrassment, even to a place like GLP!

Seriously, it is astounding that anyone could actually think this was a legit avenue to pursue.

It's either extreme idiocy or extreme disinfo.

Either way, you are fucking morans.
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OP is trying to tell us that people dont survive traumatic amputation of their legs.

That is simply not true.

How many 100's of cases should we dig up to show that it not oly has happened, but happens regularly.

Most common cases of it are in war and with those who step on landmines.
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Bullshit! they're NOT actors - they are computer generated characters so nobody in their wildest dreams can ever prove jack-shit.

Hows the donations coming in El-Dude? swimmng pool? holiday planned? lucky fuck!
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38376574


Here's a similar case for you to think about:

The most seriously injured survivor of the July 7 London bombings has told how he was standing next to the terrorist ringleader as he detonated his device.
Daniel Biddle, 31, lost both legs, his left eye, his spleen and 87 pints of blood when Mohammed Sidique Khan killed himself and six other people at Edgware Road.

He told the inquests into the 52 who died in the 2005 atrocities that a 20 pence piece remains lodged in his thigh bone, and other shrapnel, including his door keys, was removed by surgeons.
Speaking at the Royal Courts of Justice on Monday, Mr Biddle said he was blown out of the westbound Circle Line train as he travelled to work as a construction manager.

He described how Khan, who got on the train at King's Cross, sat between 2m and 3m away from him before detonating his bomb by jerking a white cord.

Mr Biddle said: "The train entered the Tube tunnel, I looked around. As I looked around, he looked up and I saw a quick movement. Then there was a big white flash.



Read more: [link to www.smh.com.au]


When he woke up on the tracks, pinned down by a piece of carriage door or panel, he said his first thought was that he had "fallen out of the train".


"It was when I tried to move and I couldn't, and as the dust and smoke settled and the noises started, that I realised something bad had happened," he said.


He used his belt and shirt to make tourniquets in a bid to stem the flow of blood, but was handed a poorly equipped first aid kit with little more than gauze and bandages.

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
 Quoting: El_Duderino


He lost 87 pints of blood huh? He must have been a big dude.....the average male can't hold more than 10 pints total. LOL
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OP I hope something similar happens to you. Actually I'm gonna pray for it you douchebag
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OP I hope something similar happens to you. Actually I'm gonna pray for it you douchebag
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I wouldnt do that.

It can bring bad things back upon yourself.
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
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And you are a turdbucket, OP.
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The vets who return with two missing legs most likely had them amputated in triage. If the picture shown with Jeff Bauman's legs like it shows is accurate, OP is right. He would have bled out really quickly, way before anyone around him came to their senses after the blast to place a tourniquet.

My 2 cents.

machobird
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So by your logic they had their legs removed after the fact because they weren't totally destroyed by an explosion? In the case of a vet who gets hit out on patrol has to be stabilised, evacuated and then transported to a triage which takes time vs an explosion that takes place right next to the medical tent staffed by fully trained doctors rather than just medics and yet someone who is injured on a battlefield has a greater chance of living.

I applaud everyone for trying to find fault in the official story but this actor bullshit has to stop. This is distracting from the real conspiracy which involves prior knowledge, mercenaries and a certain foreign country that had planned to send help before the bombs had even detonated.
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
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Please seek the care of a mental health professional. Being from Malaysia, you wouldn't be a follower of a certain pedophile false prophet would you? That would explain your entirely baseless opinion. Plenty of our military have suffered similar injuries, by similar devices, and seem to have survived.
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The pic of him holding the poster is fake. He's wearing prosthetics underneath. His legs are out of proportion to his body and crooked. Also in pics of the crowd, he is not holding up any poster. Why sit and draw a poster and not even show it? --- to get a 'before' pic of him holding up a poster and covering his prosthetics.
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
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you stupid fucking libtard. This kind of shit happens in Afghan, Iraq, Africa etc and people live without their legs and arms. Go fuck yourself.
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There's NO FUCKING way anyone could survive both Femoral arteries being severed.

He would've lost at least a minute before anyone realized what happened or knew what to do.


The so called veteran was TOO convenient at the location.


They're all fucking actors.


No fucking way. He would've bled out in 1 minute tops and pass out, not sit on the chair like that!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38376574


Please seek the care of a mental health professional. Being from Malaysia, you wouldn't be a follower of a certain pedophile false prophet would you? That would explain your entirely baseless opinion. Plenty of our military have suffered similar injuries, by similar devices, and seem to have survived.
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Hate to break it to you but those military who suffered amputations are a tiny minority compared to those who died from them. So aside from dumb luck, they are also surrounded by heavily trained allies who know the proper procedures. I'm sure you think some random guy in a cowboy hat is as qualified as soldiers trained in procedure.

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