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Having an interest in the geopolitical means I encounter some very interesting headlines yet what has been revealed in the past 24hrs by Internet freedom-fighters or troublemakers depending how you classify them:

[link to wikileaks.org]

Is perhaps one of the most surreal giving unique insight into the duplicitous thinking of those at the apex of the Western Corporate-Political clique.

Basically, those that run even own the things us ordinary people are dependent on a daily basis.

Wikileaks have released a transcript of a secret meeting that happened on Thursday 23rd June 2011 in the UK between mid-level representatives of the Obama Government in discussion with Julian Assange that's editor-in-chief/founder of Wikileaks.

Yet, what got my attention around the sudden admission of a secret meeting is that Google Head Man - Eric Schmidt was part of the representation from America in attendance.

By, reading the transcript (I'll leave a link at the end of this article) it seems Schmidt is leading the conversation for the Obama delegation.

So, apart from being one of the most powerful men in the Corporate World with a personal fortune that's been claimed at over $7billion is Schmidt part of the shadowy American Diplomatic-Military Intelligence structure?

The location of the meeting in the summer of 2011 happened in the UK due to the following...



Eric Holder is currently Attorney General of the United States.

The role of an Attorney General is concerned with legal affairs and the chief law enforcement officer of the United States government. The attorney general is considered to be the chief lawyer of the U.S. government. The attorney general serves as a member of the president's cabinet.

These are the feelings of Mr. Holder around Wikileaks revealing Confidential American Diplomatic-Military Files on the Internet...



This is then American Secretary of State (Foreign Minister) - Hilary Clinton being very clear & blunt around the illegal activities (some would claim the opposite) of Julian Assange's organization...



So, we have two senior colleagues of President Obama claiming that Assange is a criminal engendering American National Interests (whatever this means?) including it's population but on the down-low a pleasant 5hr Meeting takes place with the same Public Enemy No.1?

It sort of reminds me of the ending of the classic Motion-Picture from Stanley Kubrick:

In that it shows a bizarre debauched Political Military Corporate Elite that out of touch with reality actually seeing somehow positives of a Thermonuclear War between America & the Soviet Union.

It is claimed that Kubrick managed to associate with major players in the Military Intelligence community of America thus leading to gaining inspiration to make his masterpiece as a warning...



It seems life might be following art as in January 2013 Eric Schmidt decided to travel to North Korea to look at possible business opportunities within that nation.

Due to his close friendship with President Obama, an official statement was released by The White House claiming they did NOT authorise Schmidt's trip

Yet, they seemed fine with him exchanging compliments & having lunch in an English Country Mansion with a man that hacked sensitive documentation on numerous occasions.

Julian Assange has always mentioned that should the opportunity become available he would access then release confidential American Military documentation if he believes this shows corruption & hypocrisy within the actions of The White House.

Eric goes to North Korea, guess for a Billionaire that place must be like a dream as the work-force is always obedient no matter what...



Who watches the Watchmen...!!!

Wikileaks transcript - Transcript of secret meeting between Julian Assange and Google CEO Eric Schmidt - Wikileaks [Friday 19th April 2013]

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FULL TRANSCRIPT:
[link to wikileaks.org]




Also in attendance was Jared Cohen, a former Secretary of State advisor to Hillary Clinton, Scott Malcomson, Director of Speechwriting for Ambassador Susan Rice at the US State Department and current Communications Director of the International Crisis Group, and Lisa Shields, Vice President of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Hillary's really interested in shredding Assange.



.I'm fundamentally interested in what happens with that technology as it evolves. Right. And so, the problem I would assert, is that if you're trying to receive data you need to have a guarantee of anonymity to the sender, you need to have a secure channel to the recipient, the recipient needs to be replicated, you know... What I'd like you to do is if you could just talk a bit about that architecture, what you did in WikiLeaks technically, you know, with the sort of the technical innovations that were needed and maybe also what happens. You know, how does it evolve? Technology always evolves.
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Love this quote by Assange:

There may be incentives for them to go after you to teach a lesson to other people who might defy their authority or teach a future lesson to your organization about defiance of authority.

lmao

[link to wikileaks.org]

He's also using interesting phrases:

Fourth Estate
Censorship Pyramid
Pyramid Volume
Frontal Node
Magnet Link
Hash Tree
Darknet

And interesting quotes:

...the structure we are building our civilization out of is the worst kind of melting plasticine imaginable. And that is a big problem.

free speech in many places - in many Western places - is free not as a result of liberal circumstances in the West but rather as a result of such intense fiscalization that it doesn't matter what you say.

Yeah. So this is another type of censorship that I have thought about but don't speak so much about. Which is censorship through complexity.

the condition of the mainstream press nowadays is so appalling I don't think it can be reformed. I don't think that is possible. I think it has to be eliminated


Most wars in the 20th century have started as a result of lies. Amplified and spread by the mainstream press.


courage is the intellectual mastery of fear by understanding the true risks and opportunities of the situation.


Who censors email? No one censors email! Look at a telephone call to your grandmother, is there a censor sitting there on the line determining whether you are about to say something bad to your grandmother and cutting it out? Of course not. The postal system. Are other people opening envelopes to see whether you are sending something bad? No. Youtube, apriori, is anyone sitting there reviewing every video before it is posted?

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I don't understand! Why so many people hate US goverment?!

They are bunch of nice peoplez!

They are not like woman rapist children porn seller drug promoting system?!

Why oh why hate on em?

LMAO!
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At one point Assange calls China's internet filtering system antiquated. If China's so internet ignorant how do they get so much attention as hackers?
I wonder if Assange has also worked for the CIA and caused the Stuxnex virus on Iranian Nuclear Power plant in '10??

the Chinese internet filtering system is quite baroque, and they have evolved it... sometimes they do things manually and sometimes they do it in an automated way, in terms of adding IPs to the list based on domain names, and then we did... we had a quite interesting battle where we saw that they were looking up our IPs, and we see that these requests came from a certain DNS block range in China. Whenever we saw that we just then returned...


[link to wikileaks.org]
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THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE HAS ON HILLARY CLINTON.


During the 2008 presidential primaries a lot of attention was turned to Barack Obama by the US press, unsurprisingly. And so it started to look into his fundraisers, and discovered Tony Rezko, and then they just started to turn their eyes towards Nadhmi Auchi.

Important bits of history, recent history, that were relevant to an ongoing presidential campaign in the United States were pulled out of the intellectal record.



[link to wikileaks.org]
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I wonder if he has modified any laws in the California database...

We managed to arrange some lawyers for them and there just happened to be a nice little bit of the California statute code that addressed this precise situation which is when someone publishes something and then a subpoena is issued to try and get their identity--you can't do it and you've got to pay costs.


That was a nice little legal hook that someone had introduced.



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There's some mind blowing stuff in this transcript. I've been reading for 30 minutes..there's a lot here.
Including this.

EVERYONE SHOULD READ THE FOLLOWING, how deep is the rabbit hole?


So, on the one hand we have live dynamic services and organizations... well there's three things. Live dynamic services. Organizations that run those services, so that you are referring to a hierarchy. You are referring to a system of control. An organization, a government, that represents an organized evolving group. And on the other hand you have artefacts. You have human intellectual artefacts that have the ability to be completely independent from any system of human control. They are out there in the Platonic realm somehow. And shouldn't in fact be referred to by an organization. They should be referred to in a way that is intrinsic to the intellectual content, that arises out of the intellectual content! I think that is an inevitable and very important way forward, and where this... where I saw that this was a problem was dealing with a man by the name of Nahdmi Auchi. A few years ago was listed by one of the big business magazines in the UK as the fifth richest man in the UK. In 1980 left Iraq. He'd grown rich under Saddam Hussein's oil industry. And is alleged by the Italian press to be involved in a load of arms trading there, he has over two hundred companies run out of his Luxembourg holding unit. And several that we discovered in Panama. He had infiltrated the British Labour political establishment to the degree that the 20th business birthday in London he was given a painting signed by 146 members Commons including Tony Blair. He's the same guy who was the principal financier of Tony Rezko. Tony Rezko was the financier and fundraiser of Rod Blagoyevich, from Chicago. Convicted of corruption. Tony Rezko has been convicted of corruption. And Barack Obama. He was the intermediary who helped Barack Obama buy one of his houses and then the money not directly for the house but it bouyed up Tony Rezko's finances came from that... [indistinct]. So during the - this is detail, but it will get to a point. During the 2008 presidential primaries a lot of attention was turned to Barack Obama by the US press, unsurprisingly. And so it started to look into his fundraisers, and discovered Tony Rezko, and then they just started to turn their eyes towards Nadhmi Auchi. Auchi then hired Carter Ruck, a rather notorious firm of London libel solicitors, whose founder, Carter Ruck, has been described as doing for freedom of speech what the Boston strangler did for door to door salesmen.
[laughter]

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And he started writing letters to all of the London papers who had records of his 2003 extradition to France and conviction for corruption in France over the Elf-Acquitaine scandal. Where he had been involved in taking kickbacks on selling the invaded Kuwaiti governments' oil refineries in order to fund their operations while Iraq had occupied it. So the Guardian pulled three articles from 2003. So they were five years old. They had been in the Guardian's archive for 5 years. Without saying anything. If you go to those URLs you will not see "removed due to legal threats." You will see "page not found." And one from the Telegraph. And a bunch from some American publications. And bloggers, and so on. Important bits of history, recent history, that were relevant to an ongoing presidential campaign in the United States were pulled out of the intellectal record. They were also pulled out of the Guardian's index of articles. So why? The Guardian's published in print, and you can go to the library and look up those articles. They are still there in the library. How would you know that they were there in the library? To look up, because they are not there in the Guardian's index. Not only have they ceased to exist, they have ceased to have ever existed. Which is the modern implementation of Orwell's dictum that he controls the present controls the past and he who controls the past controls the future. Because the past is stored physically in the present. All records of the past. This issue of preserving politically salient intellectual content while it is under attack is central to what WikiLeaks does -- because that is what we are after! We are after those bits that people are trying to suppress, because we suspect, usually rightly, that they're expending economic work on suppressing those bits because they perceive that they are going to induce some change.
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That meeting transcript is a fantastic read!!!! Everyone should read it. Assange is brilliant and gets the big picture.

Eric Schmidt is trying to interrogate him, for what purpose? Control of information and to counteract any peer to peer networks.

Assange said newer generations of kids are more or less altruistic, a good thing. One of the obama attendees said kids are inherently bad, based on him being a father. What a fucktard. So he's saying government is more altruistic and needs to watch everyone? Ahole.
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Assange is staying alive bit by bit...

.an interesting piece of information, and we have verified that it is true. But that, once you feed that information into the system then it becomes very unclear how it got into the system. Well how do you get rid of it from the system? And if you do get rid of it, if someone does manage to get rid of it, you know for sure that it's been gotten rid of, because the hash doesn't resolve to anything anymore. Similarly, if someone were to modify it, the hash changes...

[link to wikileaks.org]

I can't believe the interviewers had the balls to talk about their long drive and he just said, it was a useful day to drive.

What a genius.
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OMG, I wonder if he's radio encrypted all of the documents.

communicate in a radio spectrum. In a city there is a high density... there is always, if you like, a path between one person and another person.

WiMax is coming along which will give them greater radius for two way communications

[link to wikileaks.org]

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Bizarro indeed. This Assange quote from 2010 raised a red flag.

"I believe in facts about conspiracies," he says, choosing his words slowly. "Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It's important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there's enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news. I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud." What about the Bilderberg conference? "That is vaguely conspiratorial, in a networking sense. We have published their meeting notes."
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It's not that the government is necessarily going to be overthrown, but rather they have to make more concessions.

lmao

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One interviewer lays it out:

What I am thinking of is how would I attack it. How would I attack your idea. And I still think I would go after the signing and the key infrastructure. So if I can break the keys...

[link to wikileaks.org]

They are such fools to think Assange would tell them anything else at this point.
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Thanks OP...strange indeed...
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Assange is the coolest person on the planet at this moment.
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The 2003 manual was the first one we got hold of, written by Major... by General Jeffrey Miller, who subsequently went over to Abu Ghraib, to GTMO-ize it, as Donald Rumsfeld called it, so that manual had all sorts of abuses in it and one of the ones that I was surprised to see was explicit instructions to falsify records for the Red Cross.

[link to wikileaks.org]

Then the interview takes a turn where they break down one of his points. At this point I am sure Assange has balkanized his information.

This is the inverse of your argument about empowering the dissidents in Egypt. They needed SMS to communicate. In your argument, by stopping the inability to coordinate at this level, the inverse of your argument. Literally the inverse of the first...

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There are many weird things there, like ES claiming that e doesn't know what's a Bitcoin?wtf
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Assange becomes clearly disengaged.

I can't remember the beginning of this sentence now.

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They have quite some distorted views and intentions...clearly hoping Assange would be no longer a threat. He must be on a bucket-hit-list right along with Warren Buffet.

Interviewer states:
A few weeks ago I was with Warren Buffett... who's 78. And I said What are you up to? And he said 'This next year will be the best year of my life. And I thought ok...

So I thought ok. He's obviously playing with me, and then I figured it out that if you're 76, then the next year is going to be the best year of the rest of your life. Because at some point there is going to be a year where it's not going to be so good. And then you are going to be dead. And so, I love that, right. This next is going to be the best year.


[link to wikileaks.org]

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THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE HAS ON HILLARY CLINTON.


During the 2008 presidential primaries a lot of attention was turned to Barack Obama by the US press, unsurprisingly. And so it started to look into his fundraisers, and discovered Tony Rezko, and then they just started to turn their eyes towards Nadhmi Auchi.

Important bits of history, recent history, that were relevant to an ongoing presidential campaign in the United States were pulled out of the intellectal record.



[link to wikileaks.org]
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I recall wikileaks exposed HClinton for personally going after credit card info on UN members. What a screech owl.

All the world is carrion.
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I recall wikileaks exposed HClinton for personally going after credit card info on UN members. What a screech owl.

All the world is carrion.
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He also mentions Chelsea.


.. embarrassing the US military and diplomatic class we have had a counterattack. And that counterattack is significant. This is a very significant power group. And it is a power group that is not just at the top of the White House. It is not just a few generals. Rather it is all the people connected to and profiting from that system. And that's about a third of the US population. So all the way from Chelsea Clinton

[link to wikileaks.org]
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Indicates there might be 10,000 people investigating WikiLeaks.

...Pentagon and the State Department to cooperate.

Where they internally were highly organized, they have their contact sheets, they have an internal mail system, and they have their command and control structure where they can task people and recruit resources and pour them into things, and they have people available to spend on us. Maybe there is ten thousand.


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We wouldn't mind a leak from Google, which would be, I think probably all the PATRIOT Act requests.

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Assange is the coolest person on the planet at this moment.
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I recall wikileaks exposed HClinton for personally going after credit card info on UN members. What a screech owl.

All the world is carrion.
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He also mentions Chelsea.


.. embarrassing the US military and diplomatic class we have had a counterattack. And that counterattack is significant. This is a very significant power group. And it is a power group that is not just at the top of the White House. It is not just a few generals. Rather it is all the people connected to and profiting from that system. And that's about a third of the US population. So all the way from Chelsea Clinton

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Thanks tremendously for posting this, Pool.

I get so much more from reading the interview than listening. Halfway though. Just need to voice my appreciation. :)
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Thanks tremendously for posting this, Pool.

I get so much more from reading the interview than listening. Halfway though. Just need to voice my appreciation. :)
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You're welcome.

Thanks to the OP for the only thread on GLP about it. Many people don't have the time to read and much more information is found in the text than one can relay. Hope everyone at least gets a chance to read the excerpts.
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and the guise is they are writing a book? hahahaha.

WTF is E. Schmidt doing conspiring w/ obama admin officials anyway? especially as a CEO of a company who's mission is supposedly easy access to information?

bizarrrrre that ES is always probing for wikileaks weaknesses, how to attack it, how its secure, etc......

get ready for a big wave of misinformation concocted by govt to overwhelm wikileaks with data.
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Great post! Thank you.applause2applause2
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Assange is just one more illuminati shill, hiden in plain site, thanks OP!
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I wonder if Assange hid things on cell phones as he suggests them as an alternative to documentation.

Thread: Apple employees illegally search S-F home, posing as cops... For an IPhone WTF ?!?
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