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Do you really think man walked on the moon/???
I have my doubts, anyone agree that no man ever walked on the moon?
John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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I have my doubts, anyone agree that no man ever walked on the moon?
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we never put a man on the damn moon.
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I agree but can anyone show me proof of why we didnt?
John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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No, dont think we have either.

BTW OP, your tag line is fascinating! What does it mean for you? - if you dont mind me asking. PM me if you dont want to answer here.
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No, dont think we have either.

BTW OP, your tag line is fascinating! What does it mean for you? - if you dont mind me asking. PM me if you dont want to answer here.
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PMed you :)
John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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OP, one of the best researchers I have come across on the subject is Dave McGowan. He wrote a series called "wagging the moon doggie". It's very long and detailed, and provokes you to go further. Really good IMHO.

[link to davesweb.cnchost.com]
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Nope nada. How come they ddnt leave a red light to be seen from earth. The lie is so great its accepted as truth nothing u can do
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Thanks will check it out^^ +1 rep
John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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"I agree but can anyone show me proof of why we didnt?"

No. You can't prove a negative fact. The burden of proof is on the person who introduces a positive fact. In this case, it sounds as if you're not sure that humans went to the moon. Are you doubting the proof of this extraordinary claim?

I'll be willing to bet that you can't prove to me that a human has been to the moon. In fact, I double dare ya to do just that.

Hint: convincing proof might include an explanation of just how humans got through the Van Allen radiation belts with no significant result of cancers and death from the astronauts who supposedly went to the moon. Humans have not traveled through them since.
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"I agree but can anyone show me proof of why we didnt?"

No. You can't prove a negative fact. The burden of proof is on the person who introduces a positive fact. In this case, it sounds as if you're not sure that humans went to the moon. Are you doubting the proof of this extraordinary claim?

I'll be willing to bet that you can't prove to me that a human has been to the moon. In fact, I double dare ya to do just that.

Hint: convincing proof might include an explanation of just how humans got through the Van Allen radiation belts with no significant result of cancers and death from the astronauts who supposedly went to the moon. Humans have not traveled through them since.
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Not sure honestly what all that means but I dont believe that we walked on the moon, just like to see the reasons other than my own that people agree with me thanks
John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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Hi OP, there was another thread started by Mister Obvious. She asked folks about ANY wierd ideas relating to the moon, and as part of the discussion, the question of landing there came up. Might be worth a read.

Thread: Thoughts & Theories: EARTH'S MOON - Share Your Knowledge

Here's what I posted there -

I posted this on another thread about the moon, in relation to when people thought it might be leaving us...

I've never thought our moon, was 'ours' in the sense it was naturally part of our Earth system.

Rather, it was placed here to produce certain effects.

The effects on water for one. With the planet arguably the biggest water world in our solar system, and ALL living things being made 90% plus, of water, then effects of an orbiting sattelite of the moon's size are sizable.

You could look at it as a means of keeping a prescribed system in check. Maybe that flows all the way to how our brains function? Dont know.

On a larger scale, if you believe planets themselves are living, sentient and are concious, then perhaps the moon is to keep them in check too.

In any regard, I dont think we will always need the moon as it is.

Maybe we'll understand why it's there and destroy it, maybe we'll attain a certain level of conciousness, and it will automatically go on its own accord? Maybe those who put it there will take it back.

I do feel it isnt a permanent thing. Perhaps our vibes will require two, or three moons, at different orbits and distances in the future?

Oh, and just to add, I dont think Man has ever been there. Machines yes, but man, no. Love to be convinced of it one day, but everything I have ever see and read tells me we havent. (that's not an ivite to anyone btw! LOL)

There are a few threads where they state the moon is shrinking and that eventually it will bust a part.

That notion is even tied into the Mayan calendar, which although fashioned to look like a sun, is based on lunar cycles, and the reason it 'ends' (in 2016) is due to their not being any moon to work off anymore.

All interesting stuff.

Have you ever read Ingo Swanns "Penetration"? Now that's an interesting account of what might actually go on 'in' the moon...

I'm not gonna lie to you guys...


I've never felt particularly oppressed or had any negative vibes because of the moon.


1dunno1


I don't have the feeling that it's a bad thing really.


SNIP

But I'm still having a pretty good human experience.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Oh, dont get me wrong MO, by control mechanism, I dont necessarily mean a bad controlling mechanism, maybe more of a harmonic balancer, (fine tuning) used to invoke a particular vibration that we need to live within for a period of time.

Liken it to young chilren feeling more comfortable with belief systems that shield them at a young age from trauma and concepts too harsh to really need to deal with when young minds and opinions arent formed yet.

On a cosmic level, maybe we just need to think a bit about why we're here, and deal with it for a period of time, bfore we really have our eyes openned!

I love just looking at the thing, and it never stops amazing me that its 'out there', and therefore, so are we.

So just to clarify my ideas on it, I dont see it as a bad thing either, just surplus to our needs in the future.

How amazing would it be to see it go one day (ah-lah- Space1999) and be replaced by two smaller sattelites maybe?

I guess a lot of the speculation depends on how you view planets etc, as living, thinking things or as chunks of rock. Personally, I lean towards living, and concious, but having said that, I think the moon is dead.
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And why the hell does it NOT SPIN?
 Quoting: LonghairKing


According to first grade science, the moon does not spin because the gravitational forces from the Earth cause the moon to be tidally locked.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All moons are tidally locked (besides "irregular" moons of Saturn).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35928440


I thought the moon did spin, just on an axis perpendicular to the Earth? Which is why we cant ever see the back half.

Hey, has anyone ever asked an astronomer about the moon's cycles? Why we see them as we do?

It's so much more complicated than expected!

I woke up one morning, and saw the full moon at about 9am, and the Sun at about the same height in the sky. It struck me as odd as I had always assumed the phases were shadow lines cast by Earth. I inherrantly knew that was wrong, but still, its how I had it in my head.

So, I put it up on an astro forum, and got these unbelievable long and complex explainations of why.

Dr Astro, here, also went in to ellaborate detail.

Wasnt until I saw a Nassim Haremine vid on the 'spiralling of the planets behind the Sun' that it made more sense.

Just depends on where the moon is in relation to us and the Sun. In a spirical motion, travelling behind the Sun, and not in concentric circles around it, with the moon doing similarly around us, you can visualise the moon's phases as it passes out in front of us as our system itself spirals along through the galaxy.

Not a moon vid, but is what I was referring to earlier -


 Quoting: BadHairDay


Edit to add - At least one thread on GLP suggests the moon is shrinking, and that it will break apart in 2016. I'm not so much a subscriber to that view point, but it is interesting none the less.







The idea that the moon is occupied, and not by Earthlings, could quite possibly be a reason we never went!!
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Hi OP, there was another thread started by Mister Obvious. She asked folks about ANY wierd ideas relating to the moon, and as part of the discussion, the question of landing there came up. Might be worth a read.

Thread: Thoughts & Theories: EARTH'S MOON - Share Your Knowledge

Here's what I posted there -

I posted this on another thread about the moon, in relation to when people thought it might be leaving us...

I've never thought our moon, was 'ours' in the sense it was naturally part of our Earth system.

Rather, it was placed here to produce certain effects.

The effects on water for one. With the planet arguably the biggest water world in our solar system, and ALL living things being made 90% plus, of water, then effects of an orbiting sattelite of the moon's size are sizable.

You could look at it as a means of keeping a prescribed system in check. Maybe that flows all the way to how our brains function? Dont know.

On a larger scale, if you believe planets themselves are living, sentient and are concious, then perhaps the moon is to keep them in check too.

In any regard, I dont think we will always need the moon as it is.

Maybe we'll understand why it's there and destroy it, maybe we'll attain a certain level of conciousness, and it will automatically go on its own accord? Maybe those who put it there will take it back.

I do feel it isnt a permanent thing. Perhaps our vibes will require two, or three moons, at different orbits and distances in the future?

Oh, and just to add, I dont think Man has ever been there. Machines yes, but man, no. Love to be convinced of it one day, but everything I have ever see and read tells me we havent. (that's not an ivite to anyone btw! LOL)

There are a few threads where they state the moon is shrinking and that eventually it will bust a part.

That notion is even tied into the Mayan calendar, which although fashioned to look like a sun, is based on lunar cycles, and the reason it 'ends' (in 2016) is due to their not being any moon to work off anymore.

All interesting stuff.

Have you ever read Ingo Swanns "Penetration"? Now that's an interesting account of what might actually go on 'in' the moon...

I'm not gonna lie to you guys...


I've never felt particularly oppressed or had any negative vibes because of the moon.


1dunno1


I don't have the feeling that it's a bad thing really.


SNIP

But I'm still having a pretty good human experience.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Oh, dont get me wrong MO, by control mechanism, I dont necessarily mean a bad controlling mechanism, maybe more of a harmonic balancer, (fine tuning) used to invoke a particular vibration that we need to live within for a period of time.

Liken it to young chilren feeling more comfortable with belief systems that shield them at a young age from trauma and concepts too harsh to really need to deal with when young minds and opinions arent formed yet.

On a cosmic level, maybe we just need to think a bit about why we're here, and deal with it for a period of time, bfore we really have our eyes openned!

I love just looking at the thing, and it never stops amazing me that its 'out there', and therefore, so are we.

So just to clarify my ideas on it, I dont see it as a bad thing either, just surplus to our needs in the future.

How amazing would it be to see it go one day (ah-lah- Space1999) and be replaced by two smaller sattelites maybe?

I guess a lot of the speculation depends on how you view planets etc, as living, thinking things or as chunks of rock. Personally, I lean towards living, and concious, but having said that, I think the moon is dead.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


And why the hell does it NOT SPIN?
 Quoting: LonghairKing


According to first grade science, the moon does not spin because the gravitational forces from the Earth cause the moon to be tidally locked.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All moons are tidally locked (besides "irregular" moons of Saturn).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35928440


I thought the moon did spin, just on an axis perpendicular to the Earth? Which is why we cant ever see the back half.

Hey, has anyone ever asked an astronomer about the moon's cycles? Why we see them as we do?

It's so much more complicated than expected!

I woke up one morning, and saw the full moon at about 9am, and the Sun at about the same height in the sky. It struck me as odd as I had always assumed the phases were shadow lines cast by Earth. I inherrantly knew that was wrong, but still, its how I had it in my head.

So, I put it up on an astro forum, and got these unbelievable long and complex explainations of why.

Dr Astro, here, also went in to ellaborate detail.

Wasnt until I saw a Nassim Haremine vid on the 'spiralling of the planets behind the Sun' that it made more sense.

Just depends on where the moon is in relation to us and the Sun. In a spirical motion, travelling behind the Sun, and not in concentric circles around it, with the moon doing similarly around us, you can visualise the moon's phases as it passes out in front of us as our system itself spirals along through the galaxy.

Not a moon vid, but is what I was referring to earlier -


 Quoting: BadHairDay


Edit to add - At least one thread on GLP suggests the moon is shrinking, and that it will break apart in 2016. I'm not so much a subscriber to that view point, but it is interesting none the less.







The idea that the moon is occupied, and not by Earthlings, could quite possibly be a reason we never went!!
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Thank you very interesting..
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John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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We DID go to the moon.
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Always good to have a balanced argument. hf
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"I agree but can anyone show me proof of why we didnt?"

No. You can't prove a negative fact. The burden of proof is on the person who introduces a positive fact. In this case, it sounds as if you're not sure that humans went to the moon. Are you doubting the proof of this extraordinary claim?

I'll be willing to bet that you can't prove to me that a human has been to the moon. In fact, I double dare ya to do just that.

Hint: convincing proof might include an explanation of just how humans got through the Van Allen radiation belts with no significant result of cancers and death from the astronauts who supposedly went to the moon. Humans have not traveled through them since.
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The Apollo astronauts went AROUND the majority of the belts through the thinner outer edges.








Astronauts in Gemini entered the belts. The ISS passes through a lower hanging part (the South Atlantic Anomaly) regularly.
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we had computers the size of 2 story houses back then
think about our technology back then

we can't do it now because its too expensive????

we can't do it now because we can't do it

and you can't fake it because too many people would know

I don't for one minute believe we went to the moon and landed and was able to get back


it couldn't be done

and I dont think it ever will be done

God isn't going to allow us to leave this planet for any length of time.

It all ends here.
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I tend to believe that we did go to the moon. For one reason there are thousands of moon rocks that have been studied in thousands of different labs all over the world. From what I understand these rocks are different than our own. So if they are unlike earth rocks then where did they come from?

Then there is Apollo 13. They would have had to fake that for 3 days.

Then there is Ham radio. I'm sure there were many ham operators listening in on the communications. They would have figured out something was wrong when communication ability did not coincide with line of sight with the moon, but with the typical orbital pattern that they had all probably become accustomed to from all the early apollo, gemini, and mercury flights.
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never happened. i can't believe it. i won't believe it. my number #1 question is how could they communicate that far. especially back then.
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Live video from the moon in 1969. Live Video right now requires a truck with a satellite dish and thats on earth.
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never happened. i can't believe it. i won't believe it. my number #1 question is how could they communicate that far. especially back then.
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I doubt that would've too hard. Pick a frequency that is clear and that is in a part of the spectrum which has wavelengths most suitable for long range communication. Then use directional antennas and a thousand watts or so of transmission. I once talked to California from Arkansas using a 4 watt CB on a cluttered channel. I had a big directional antenna though.
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I kinda lean towards we did go to the moon.
Back then the Cold War was going strong, as was the space Race.
If the USSR thought for a second the Apollo 11 flight was a hoax they would have exposed it for what it was and reaped the enormous political victory it would have been.
Remember...they tracked everything the U.S. sent into space.
It could have been easy to hoax the general population but it would have been almost impossible to hoax the USSR back then.
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stupid young morans ..I feel sorry for yur ingnorance. too bad for you .
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Nope but even mission control probably was out of the loop when the studio pictures came through; it never happened but the 40 billion dollars(a lot of money in the 60's)went somewhere,just where who knows.
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we had computers the size of 2 story houses back then
think about our technology back then

we can't do it now because its too expensive????

we can't do it now because we can't do it

and you can't fake it because too many people would know

I don't for one minute believe we went to the moon and landed and was able to get back


it couldn't be done

and I dont think it ever will be done

God isn't going to allow us to leave this planet for any length of time.

It all ends here.
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So what if computers are better now? How many megabytes does it take to get to orbit? Rocket tech is still largely the same and still expensive.
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Nope but even mission control probably was out of the loop when the studio pictures came through;
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What about the live interactions with the astronauts while on the surface?
They didn't just watch the videos. They talked to these guys, and asked them to pick up different rocks at times. They mentioned sports scores of live events. The cameras on the last three missions were remotely controlled by a guy in mission control.

it never happened but the 40 billion dollars(a lot of money in the 60's)went somewhere,just where who knows.
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According to multiple audits it went to contractors and subcontractors to build equipment capable of getting to the Moon and back.

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Man went to the moon, walked on it and came home. A costly endeavor only achieved by shier will based on the fear of a communist space program.
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there might be people there today
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WATCH THIS

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Hey OP. Did you get a chance to look at Wagging the Moon Doggie?

BTW, the same guy was arguably the very first person to publish a 'this event isnt right' article on the events of 911. He published the very next day, and picked up on building 7 and many aspects of what many are only still waking up to.
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Don't even get me started....

Let me find this thing on YouTube that will help you understand this





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