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If slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be vegetarian!

 
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this video says it all

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Thanks for posting this OP!
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verysad
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Article link: [link to www.factory-farming.com]

"Under the quise of "veggie libel laws", in thirteen states it is illegal to criticize food quality or publish photos of a CAFO (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation); wonder what ever happened to the first amendment?"


Get your food from people and places that you respect.
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Been a vegetarian for only a month now; best thing I've done in a while.

Saw a white slaughterhouse tower surrounded by cows standing in their own shit...waiting to be slaughtered...

Such a waste of resources.
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Been a vegetarian for only a month now; best thing I've done in a while.

Saw a white slaughterhouse tower surrounded by cows standing in their own shit...waiting to be slaughtered...

Such a waste of resources.
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And by surrounded by cows/bulls I mean for as far as the eye could see...and this was in the middle of the country. Very flat
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Love your way op hugs

Thank you for being their voice verysad
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
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TRhey have no souls?

says who?

the ones that want to eat them right?

because did Christ ever say they had no souls?

and if they dont have souls how come when it decsribes paradise on earth the prophecy mentions animals..and more animals and more animals...the lion, the lamb, the leopard..even the snake

yet only the meek humans will inherit?

how many sins does an animal commit during his or her life compared to a human

time to wakey wakey
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
 Quoting: ScarfNZ 38364366


How can you rear animals..they get to love you trust you then one day you butcher them and eat them?

I know how farm animals get to love and trust their keepers..city folk might not know this
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
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same but i am a vegetarian so i sell the meat to my local italian group of familys
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Stop eating dead meat and transform this planet and your life with it..my view
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
 Quoting: ScarfNZ 38364366


How can you rear animals..they get to love you trust you then one day you butcher them and eat them?

I know how farm animals get to love and trust their keepers..city folk might not know this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


sadly some people still need the money or meat to survive, i only sell excess when times are tight.
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
 Quoting: ScarfNZ 38364366


same but i am a vegetarian so i sell the meat to my local italian group of familys
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You kill?

then you are part of the problem op in my view

how on earth can you do that?

that is incomprehesible

this is a new devious spin

now people rant ..oh the alaughter houses..fair enough

but its ok to rear them free them kill them?

says who?

its still taking a life

Why in the coming paradise on earth this will stop? obviously because its Gods will? then obviously its not his will for this to happen?
They know and have been telling this in movies..tongue in cheek..that this is in my opinion..against Gods will..the key to much of the present status quo is the killing and eating meat

all suffering of any livin creature

creates the hell shared by all

what you do to others you are doin to yourself

it all comes back to us

it goes round and round..its tays in the reality we live and affects the whole..like air waves..but waves of suffering and pain

just because you dont see them doesnt mean they arent there..
you dont see radio waves..yet there they are

similar thing
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
 Quoting: ScarfNZ 38364366


How can you rear animals..they get to love you trust you then one day you butcher them and eat them?

I know how farm animals get to love and trust their keepers..city folk might not know this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


sadly some people still need the money or meat to survive, i only sell excess when times are tight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


God provides..ask ..believe and it shall be given

what does a man gain if he loses his soul?

we want a better world? we have to make it happen
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
 Quoting: ScarfNZ 38364366


same but i am a vegetarian so i sell the meat to my local italian group of familys
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


You kill?

then you are part of the problem op in my view

how on earth can you do that?

that is incomprehesible

this is a new devious spin

now people rant ..oh the alaughter houses..fair enough

but its ok to rear them free them kill them?

says who?

its still taking a life

Why in the coming paradise on earth this will stop? obviously because its Gods will? then obviously its not his will for this to happen?
They know and have been telling this in movies..tongue in cheek..that this is in my opinion..against Gods will..the key to much of the present status quo is the killing and eating meat

all suffering of any livin creature

creates the hell shared by all

what you do to others you are doin to yourself

it all comes back to us

it goes round and round..its tays in the reality we live and affects the whole..like air waves..but waves of suffering and pain

just because you dont see them doesnt mean they arent there..
you dont see radio waves..yet there they are

similar thing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


sadly some people still need the money or meat to survive, i only sell excess when times are hard. if you are not a realy big farmer things can get hard at times.
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I wish animals were treated better...

But dang it they are so tasty....
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
 Quoting: ScarfNZ 38364366


same but i am a vegetarian so i sell the meat to my local italian group of familys
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


You kill?

then you are part of the problem op in my view

how on earth can you do that?

that is incomprehesible

this is a new devious spin

now people rant ..oh the alaughter houses..fair enough

but its ok to rear them free them kill them?

says who?

its still taking a life

Why in the coming paradise on earth this will stop? obviously because its Gods will? then obviously its not his will for this to happen?
They know and have been telling this in movies..tongue in cheek..that this is in my opinion..against Gods will..the key to much of the present status quo is the killing and eating meat

all suffering of any livin creature

creates the hell shared by all

what you do to others you are doin to yourself

it all comes back to us

it goes round and round..its tays in the reality we live and affects the whole..like air waves..but waves of suffering and pain

just because you dont see them doesnt mean they arent there..
you dont see radio waves..yet there they are

similar thing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


sadly some people still need the money or meat to survive, i only sell excess when times are hard. if you are not a realy big farmer things can get hard at times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


Have you tried with faith to ask God for another form of making money? with faith?

Try it

As a vegetarian you have no excuse op..which is worse spiritually in my view than the knuckle draggers that know no better..You obviously do.Op spiritually you really must change in my opinion..this is not good..in my view.

You must be noticing this in your life.No need to share details. I know I think how this spiritually works..it backfires and it isnt pretty. Maybe here is the answer you have been looking for regarding the "why" you ask often?

Try changing and see your life change with it?
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After rearing my own meat for the last 5 years I would not go back to 'factory produced produce'. My animals are well looked after and when their time does come, they are slaughtered on the farm. The meat tastes good because the animals are treated well.
 Quoting: ScarfNZ 38364366


How can you rear animals..they get to love you trust you then one day you butcher them and eat them?

I know how farm animals get to love and trust their keepers..city folk might not know this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


sadly some people still need the money or meat to survive, i only sell excess when times are tight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


God provides..ask ..believe and it shall be given

what does a man gain if he loses his soul?

we want a better world? we have to make it happen
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


if an all loveing, all knowing, all powerful "god" needs to be asked to do the right thing then there is something very wrong with this god!
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How can you rear animals..they get to love you trust you then one day you butcher them and eat them?

I know how farm animals get to love and trust their keepers..city folk might not know this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


sadly some people still need the money or meat to survive, i only sell excess when times are tight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


God provides..ask ..believe and it shall be given

what does a man gain if he loses his soul?

we want a better world? we have to make it happen
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


if an all loveing, all knowing, all powerful "god" needs to be asked to do the right thing then there is something very wrong with this god!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


There is nothing wrong with God. This world is based on free will..our free will..Our free will to screw things up and the world we live in.

God has taught us..he has sent special souls and as a Christian I believe Christ to be The Messiah..with valid teachings

Its up to us to live by them or to tap dance to our own tune..comfortably ..waitin for someone to mop up our mess after us

We are to blame.We cause 90% in my opinion of the suffering of this world
How we treat other people..war..hunger..loneliness..even illness..despair..poverty...killing, abuse etc..etc..

how we treat the environment

how we treat animals

we behave..with some wonderful exceptions..like demons..demons set out to destroy everything and us with it
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yet we live with the conviction we are "special and wonderful" yet we destroy everything and everyone in our wake..with some wonderful exceptions that try their best to make things better
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We submit the whole of Creation to our merciless dictatorship..we destroy and maim and kill..and invent even more sophisticated way in doing this

We have invented ways to travel into space..sophisticated ways of destroying the planet and all life several times over

and we still gorge on dead flesh

and allow the world to be fullof suffering

while people starve to death or havent enough money to have a roof over their head

yet we pay millions for someone to hit a ball into any hole

or to dance or sing on a stage

or to read words on the screen

while others starve

we are wonderful and special?

heck Id hate to think what we would get up to if we werent
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I truly love this man as a brother but the truth is when you're really hungry, everything looks delicious.
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Guess if the food trucks go on strike, you might start to look at your friends like happy meals
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Animals commit no crime and are placed in cages..live a life of torture whoes only escape is death

or learn to love and trust only to be butchered

or are in their natural habitat not bothering anyone..only to be killed

so someone can feed their probably over fed body even more

I havent eaten meat in over 20 years

I am in my thirties..we need meat?
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ill stop eating meat when the lions stop
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sadly some people still need the money or meat to survive, i only sell excess when times are tight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


God provides..ask ..believe and it shall be given

what does a man gain if he loses his soul?

we want a better world? we have to make it happen
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


if an all loveing, all knowing, all powerful "god" needs to be asked to do the right thing then there is something very wrong with this god!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


There is nothing wrong with God. This world is based on free will..our free will..Our free will to screw things up and the world we live in.

God has taught us..he has sent special souls and as a Christian I believe Christ to be The Messiah..with valid teachings

Its up to us to live by them or to tap dance to our own tune..comfortably ..waitin for someone to mop up our mess after us

We are to blame.We cause 90% in my opinion of the suffering of this world
How we treat other people..war..hunger..loneliness..even illness..despair..poverty...killing, abuse etc..etc..

how we treat the environment

how we treat animals

we behave..with some wonderful exceptions..like demons..demons set out to destroy everything and us with it
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good luck Mss vegan with your god, i am a knostic and i belive the god that mad this world is the devil.
this world is fucked up big time, life isnt full of sunshine and rainbows, sometimes you got to do things that are bad (or evil as you put it) to survive because this world is evil!
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God provides..ask ..believe and it shall be given

what does a man gain if he loses his soul?

we want a better world? we have to make it happen
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


if an all loveing, all knowing, all powerful "god" needs to be asked to do the right thing then there is something very wrong with this god!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


There is nothing wrong with God. This world is based on free will..our free will..Our free will to screw things up and the world we live in.

God has taught us..he has sent special souls and as a Christian I believe Christ to be The Messiah..with valid teachings

Its up to us to live by them or to tap dance to our own tune..comfortably ..waitin for someone to mop up our mess after us

We are to blame.We cause 90% in my opinion of the suffering of this world
How we treat other people..war..hunger..loneliness..even illness..despair..poverty...killing, abuse etc..etc..

how we treat the environment

how we treat animals

we behave..with some wonderful exceptions..like demons..demons set out to destroy everything and us with it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


good luck Mss vegan with your god, i am a knostic and i belive the god that mad this world is the devil.
this world is fucked up big time, life isnt full of sunshine and rainbows, sometimes you got to do things that are bad (or evil as you put it) to survive because this world is evil!
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If evil had made thios world it wouldnt be so beautiful

The evil here comes mostly from the actions of people towards all created..themselves..the environment..other animals etc..etc..

think about it

take away human intervention and where would the suffering come from?

and what would be the cause of the suffering?

even so called "natural disasters" are in my opinion caused by mans intervention in nature..or do we think its normal to poke holes into the earths crust and extract its natural lubricant? oil

Or do we think its normal to fill air..water soil with toxic waste?

or do we think its normal to alter lifes DNA in plants and animals?

or do we think its normal to use enery that creates waste that destroys life in every form? nuclear

etc..etc..etc..
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I am a vegetarian for health reasons alone, a few months ago I got into a long online argument with a whole heap of vegans, but before I started that argument when someone would ask me why am I a vegetarian I would say because of health and animal welfare reasons but now after the replies I got from that discusion I have come to the realisation that if I was doing it for the animals I would be a Vegan or raw foodist.
Thanks to those Vegans I now put my survival over that of my animals, having said that I will still continue to take care of my animals as humanely as possible but I no longer feel false gilt if I sell excess animals off for meat as I am now only vegetarian for health reasons. I owe those vegans a lot because I can now sell my excess roosters, my excess ducks, my excess male goats (as I only need one for breeding stock), excess honey from my new EXTRA beehives, and I am now looking into aquaculture which is something I would never have done before because It would of gone against my false idea that I was a vegetarian for animal welfare, I am also going to supply most of my fish food as worms from my new large worm farms and other bugs.
If I thought meat was healthy I would keep some of it myself to eat but I don’t think anyone could convince me to do that.

Meats not good enough for me to eat it but if people want to eat it than that’s there choice. I must admit i do make some omni people freak out a bit at first but after a short time everyone so far has come too really like my state of mind.

I have also found that omnies in general tend to be a lot more receptive to the idea of Vegetarianism than they used to be around me because of my new found laid back attitude, they see me as more of a realist now as opposed to some weirdo hippie making them feel bad and trying to convert them.

I now believe that people who think of themselves as omnivores have just as much right to eat meat as a carnivore such as a dog, I believe myself to be a Vegetarian therefore I have no right or need to eat meat!
The mind is a powerful thing, to quote Henry Ford "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.", we can jump up and down and tell someone one logical fact after another until we are blue in the face and it wont matter one bit if they don’t believe that Vegetarianism or Veganism is right for them, if for some reason an omnivore who truly believes that they need meat to be healthy was forced to live on a vegetarian or vegan diet than there is a VERY HIGH chance that there physical and mental health would decrease (regardless of how much healthy food they eat) because of the restrictions that their mind has put in place!

Vegetarians and omnies are always getting bashed by vegans because they think that we don’t know enough about Animal rights and all that is needed is for vegans to fill in the gaps and that people (especially vegetarians) will jump on the band wagon as soon as they are told, that’s not the case for people in 3rd world countries and also for people like me who live in “first world countries” where the ground is so depleted from centuries of monoculture farming, mining and forestry that you could take a sledgehammer to the rock hard ground and break the hammers handle, and this is what we have to try and grow food in, which would be nearly impossible without the help of animals.

I would be quite surprised if there was a vegan or a vegetarian that has not tried to convert at leased one person. There is only one thing that can change or alter what the majority of the public believes (as it often does) and that is the Main Stream Media, sadly Adolph Hitler knew this all to well as he once said “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” not that I am saying Vegetarianism is a lie but unless you can control the Main Stream Media you cannot change someone into believing that Vegetarianism or Veganism is right for them, it must be there choice that they make of there own free will and in there own time or else it wont last.

And as for health,
In my opinion there are many vegan and vegetarian foods that are a lot unhealthier to eat than either dairy or meat.
Lets talk about a man named John, John lives off a diet of mostly dairy, meat, white sugar, white flour, white rice, white bread, High Sugar breakfast Cereals, carbonated drinks, deep-fried foods, Cookies and Candy.
If our friend John was to change all of the above foods other than meat and dairy to healthier versions he would be a lot healthier than he would be if he only stopped eating meat and dairy and kept eating the rest.

By themselves Vegetarianism and Veganism do not guarantee a healthy diet, they can be a start but by themselves all they will ever be when it comes to health is to be a part of a healthy diet.
So if you are only worried about health meat and dairy should be one of the last things you will need to cut out of your diet.
And while we are on the topic of health, in my opinion there is not a single person in the world that can come up with a good argument that Honey is unhealthy.
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God provides..ask ..believe and it shall be given

what does a man gain if he loses his soul?

we want a better world? we have to make it happen
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


if an all loveing, all knowing, all powerful "god" needs to be asked to do the right thing then there is something very wrong with this god!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


There is nothing wrong with God. This world is based on free will..our free will..Our free will to screw things up and the world we live in.

God has taught us..he has sent special souls and as a Christian I believe Christ to be The Messiah..with valid teachings

Its up to us to live by them or to tap dance to our own tune..comfortably ..waitin for someone to mop up our mess after us

We are to blame.We cause 90% in my opinion of the suffering of this world
How we treat other people..war..hunger..loneliness..even illness..despair..poverty...killing, abuse etc..etc..

how we treat the environment

how we treat animals

we behave..with some wonderful exceptions..like demons..demons set out to destroy everything and us with it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211145


good luck Mss vegan with your god, i am a knostic and i belive the god that mad this world is the devil.
this world is fucked up big time, life isnt full of sunshine and rainbows, sometimes you got to do things that are bad (or evil as you put it) to survive because this world is evil!
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That is what humanity has done

Its blamed everything and everyone but itself..always
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Well then that explains it

I am not ba vegetarian for health reasons..I am a vegetarian strictly and only because I LOVE THEM

I see them as my brothers and sisters in creation

I respect them and love them

and treat them as I think God would want me to

The level of civilization can and must be measured according to how a society treats its weakest members..and in my view that includes animals
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It isnt easy for someone to stop eating meat ..I understand this..but its worth the try I think

spiritually especially

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