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I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH JESUS BUILDING US A HOUSE IN HEAVEN | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 38616942  United States04/22/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | before his ascension Jesus stated that he would go up to heaven to prepare a place for his disceples and followers and then return to pick us up to take us tou our new heavenly palace. Quoting: CATHOLIC 38669059 my question is : how long would it take the celestial builders to build a heavenly mansion?? the reason is that the longer it takes , the more new people are born and therefore the more houses to be built multiplies as the population increases. maybe that's why Jesus can't come back until all the houses are built?? When Jesus made the promise, 2000 years ago the Earth population was 55 million, so if 5% went to heaven, Jesus would only have needed to build 2.5 million houses a year. but in the current trends, in this generation alone, if only 5% of 7 billion go to heaven ( and it should be at least 25% because of the preaching)then Jesus would need to build 350 million houses a year. this is a mind boggling amount of houses especially if we are all going to be living together in the same planet heaven. maybe the builders can never catch up? because the population and the number of people qualifying for housing is increasing exponentially to the point that they can never catch up and therefore precluding Jesus return? Heaven has been long built, grow up . |
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| Wingedlion27 User ID: 37787389 United States04/22/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To a "son of god" is is as easy as pointing to the earth, sticking in a knife with their technology in it, and pulling it out of the earth's core, then like a plant, viola, instant starship complete with all the amenities and current high tech, popping from the earth like a plant. Wingedlion |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1210803 United States04/22/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a problem with worshiping anybody or anything for eternity! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38583082 I have a problem with why heaven would have golden roads, and pearl gates?..Both are only of value to man, and are physical materials, why would they hold any value in a spirtual world..Its very telling of how man made up the storys of the bible.. Because they are items of intrinsic value. They are beauty. God loves beauty. I'm not convinced that there are literal gold and pearl and whatnot... it may just be a way to describe something to us that we have no other way to comprehend than to put it in earthly terms. |
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| nzreva User ID: 19624091 United States04/22/2013 09:51 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | before his ascension Jesus stated that he would go up to heaven to prepare a place for his disceples and followers and then return to pick us up to take us tou our new heavenly palace. Quoting: CATHOLIC 38669059 my question is : how long would it take the celestial builders to build a heavenly mansion?? the reason is that the longer it takes , the more new people are born and therefore the more houses to be built multiplies as the population increases. maybe that's why Jesus can't come back until all the houses are built?? When Jesus made the promise, 2000 years ago the Earth population was 55 million, so if 5% went to heaven, Jesus would only have needed to build 2.5 million houses a year. but in the current trends, in this generation alone, if only 5% of 7 billion go to heaven ( and it should be at least 25% because of the preaching)then Jesus would need to build 350 million houses a year. this is a mind boggling amount of houses especially if we are all going to be living together in the same planet heaven. maybe the builders can never catch up? because the population and the number of people qualifying for housing is increasing exponentially to the point that they can never catch up and therefore precluding Jesus return?  |
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| CELT1 User ID: 1177339 United States04/22/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | generation is 6625 years... Quoting: CELT1 Before the Third And Fourth Generation Die... Two Generations await... The Last 13250 years of sinners... The Word SINS... Saying It's Not So... Denying The Word Given Long Ago... Well I am willing to listen CELT1. Where do these figures come from?  A Life Cycle... 26500 years ... All have heard of it... Each generation 6625... 1210... 4 This Fourth World... Ending as the Fifth World Emerges... V ... The Family Of Jesus Christ... Last Edited by CELT1 on 04/22/2013 10:02 AM CELT1 |
| Cat Holic (OP) User ID: 38669059 Australia04/22/2013 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish people would put verses in when they post. It makes it so much easier for everyone. Quoting: AMAZED CONTINUALLY! 1190661 John 14:1-3 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if (it were) not (so), I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, (there) ye may be also. It does make you think though especially about the word SOON!. The KJV word quickly! Revelation 22:6-7 The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place." "Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll." AND Revelation 22:12 "Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. Now there is a dispute about when Revelation was actually written but the earliest date is AD 68 or 69. So soon becomes a very long time! Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Now that generation has passed. Some very creative Christians might come up with a new definition of "generation", usually that in Greek "generation" can be far broader than 20-25 years. Generations were even shorter in biblical times. Some, even more creative believers, trying to get around the problem the word "generation" creates, have suggested Jesus meant that the generation means till the end of the Jews. What rot! The disciples expected Jesus to return very quickly... but alas they were wrong. So how soon is soon? yes, that is a bit of a problem.even the disceples thought Jesus was going up to prepare the new houses for them and then he would be quickly coming back to get them. they thought this should not take more than a couple of weeks that's why they stopped working and spent their whole days looking up into the sky waiting to see Jesus coming thru the clouds. then when nothing happened for weeks and weeks, Paul had to reprimand them and get them back to work. That's why us Catholics don't believe in the fable of Jesus coming back. |
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| VarianceX77 User ID: 30211458 United States04/22/2013 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Salvation is a lot more exclusive than you've been taught. Quoting: retro Matt 15.24 I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel The promises are only for the literal descendants of Abraham and Sarah . And remember the verse the meek shall inherit the earth? That's because we'll be living and reigning on earth with Jesus You kinda missed the part where all sin will be forgiven unto man in this age or the next, everyone gets resurrected, God might destroy a few souls but I don't think so, he doesn't create anything in vain. When you know the beginning and the end, it's kinda impossible to do something in vain unless you want to. VarianceX77 |
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| CELT1 User ID: 1177339 United States04/22/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't have the chosen without the unchosen. So people are chosen not to be chosen ^_^ No shame, it's just a calling we all have :D All are chosen to do one thing or the other... Some are evil some are good... It's always been that way... And it will never change... A day of peace was created to rest from this lesson of life... For A Day 1000 years peace will reign... Then it begins again... CELT1 |
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| Horus of the Two Horizons User ID: 34531932 United States04/22/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The comments Jesus made about going to His father's house and making a new home for us are a reference to a wedding. Traditionally, the groom would make arrangements to marry the bride, then go back to his father's house to add on one or more rooms as a new home for the soon-to-be-wed couple. Only the father could decide when this task was acceptably complete and thereby allow the wedding date to be set. Astronomically (and this is extremely important) Jesus represents the sun at the time of the winter solstice; God represents the center of the galaxy, the the bride is the earth. Every 25,800 years (one cycle of precession) the sun is at the galactic center during the winter solstice. This is Jesus returning to His father's house. And this alignment is in effect for a short window of time right now, from roughly 1980 to 2018. The new house is the New Jerusalem, with dimensions proportional to the earth. Its 1500 mile sides are 7920 thousand yards, like the earth is 7920 miles in diameter. It is a thinly veiled reference to a new earth which will be created anew via pole shift. The sun, moon, and planets are in position to act out the steps of an ancient Jewish wedding ceremony in December 2019. That is when the new house will be finished, on Judgment Day. for much more detail check the book: End Times and 2019 [link to endtimesand2019.webs.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31120633 United States04/22/2013 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The comments Jesus made about going to His father's house and making a new home for us are a reference to a wedding. Traditionally, the groom would make arrangements to marry the bride, then go back to his father's house to add on one or more rooms as a new home for the soon-to-be-wed couple. Only the father could decide when this task was acceptably complete and thereby allow the wedding date to be set. Quoting: Horus of the Two Horizons 34531932 Astronomically (and this is extremely important) Jesus represents the sun at the time of the winter solstice; God represents the center of the galaxy, the the bride is the earth. Every 25,800 years (one cycle of precession) the sun is at the galactic center during the winter solstice. This is Jesus returning to His father's house. And this alignment is in effect for a short window of time right now, from roughly 1980 to 2018. The new house is the New Jerusalem, with dimensions proportional to the earth. Its 1500 mile sides are 7920 thousand yards, like the earth is 7920 miles in diameter. It is a thinly veiled reference to a new earth which will be created anew via pole shift. The sun, moon, and planets are in position to act out the steps of an ancient Jewish wedding ceremony in December 2019. That is when the new house will be finished, on Judgment Day. for much more detail check the book: End Times and 2019 [link to endtimesand2019.webs.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31120633 United States04/22/2013 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The comments Jesus made about going to His father's house and making a new home for us are a reference to a wedding. Traditionally, the groom would make arrangements to marry the bride, then go back to his father's house to add on one or more rooms as a new home for the soon-to-be-wed couple. Only the father could decide when this task was acceptably complete and thereby allow the wedding date to be set. Quoting: Horus of the Two Horizons 34531932 Astronomically (and this is extremely important) Jesus represents the sun at the time of the winter solstice; God represents the center of the galaxy, the the bride is the earth. Every 25,800 years (one cycle of precession) the sun is at the galactic center during the winter solstice. This is Jesus returning to His father's house. And this alignment is in effect for a short window of time right now, from roughly 1980 to 2018. The new house is the New Jerusalem, with dimensions proportional to the earth. Its 1500 mile sides are 7920 thousand yards, like the earth is 7920 miles in diameter. It is a thinly veiled reference to a new earth which will be created anew via pole shift. The sun, moon, and planets are in position to act out the steps of an ancient Jewish wedding ceremony in December 2019. That is when the new house will be finished, on Judgment Day. for much more detail check the book: End Times and 2019 [link to endtimesand2019.webs.com] It's a bit foolish to trust the jews with their talmudic perversions brought from Babylon. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9645738 United States04/22/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if we get a choice of mansions? If we really do reincarnate, do we end up with a used one? Hope they weren't smokers. The streets of gold don't sound like a good idea. On a hot day you'd have to where sandals, right? The pearly gates sound like a nice touch. What do they do with the oysters? Oh, and milk and honey...that's gonna get old real quick! I'm hoping for the happy hunting grounds; a good shotgun, high flying geese...hope the angels wear orange vests. I'd hate to shoot one by mistake! |
| CELT1 User ID: 1177339 United States04/22/2013 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can see the mansions in the heavens that await you... Quoting: CELT1 It's no secret... They are not hidden... really? with the help of some lebanese white hash. get off your god complex. You say really which means you have doubt I have none and can point out those manions in heaven your next dwelling place... It's clear you know nothinng about a soul container... A container that holds a smart ass spirit as yourself... The Bodies Of Christ... They Belong To Father Abba... Ye reside in one of those special containers that become a church that hands out the cup of christ I am giving you some friendly advice... Look at the word reall... yourself... As you step back and look at the Two ll's in front of you... The Path Of Truth The YOD In Image And Reality the symbol of Truth... I I ... The Pillars Of It... Respect Earns Abbas Living Light... Down To ye... O... Is holiness.. y is not in it yet... Your Eternal Truth... Your seeing it now for the first time... A spirit of undeniable proof of what I say is the Godly truth you seek to become holy and Know The Word REALLY... Last Edited by CELT1 on 04/22/2013 01:11 PM CELT1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States04/22/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are born in the universe under the energy of the True Creator. Then a dead man asks you, from beyond the grave via a cryptic book written on stone, to accept him as your savior. Dude, Jesus is a devil. Your dwelling is HERE and NOW. A devil would love to remove you from your TRUE place in life. Instead of waiting to go somewhere called home, enjoy your home here. Instead of waiting for a dead man to solve your problems, do it yourselves. Don't fall for Monotheism. As grand as the Universe is, Monotheism isn't possible. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36422696 United States04/22/2013 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | before his ascension Jesus stated that he would go up to heaven to prepare a place for his disceples and followers and then return to pick us up to take us tou our new heavenly palace. Quoting: CATHOLIC 38669059 my question is : how long would it take the celestial builders to build a heavenly mansion?? the reason is that the longer it takes , the more new people are born and therefore the more houses to be built multiplies as the population increases. maybe that's why Jesus can't come back until all the houses are built?? When Jesus made the promise, 2000 years ago the Earth population was 55 million, so if 5% went to heaven, Jesus would only have needed to build 2.5 million houses a year. but in the current trends, in this generation alone, if only 5% of 7 billion go to heaven ( and it should be at least 25% because of the preaching)then Jesus would need to build 350 million houses a year. this is a mind boggling amount of houses especially if we are all going to be living together in the same planet heaven. maybe the builders can never catch up? because the population and the number of people qualifying for housing is increasing exponentially to the point that they can never catch up and therefore precluding Jesus return? You are limiting your thinking to human rational OP....not supernatural possibilities. You want to know what kind of God we have....take a look at this video and you will see nothing is impossible for him. |
