Does the Beginning Activation of Enlightenment Cause Schizophrenia?

MKultra creates alter ego's and you have to figure out how to control them, it simply makes your subconscious conscious

I spoke in generalities and the internet is not very good at conveying emotion. (minus emoticons) I was not really 'attacking' you.

Regardless, what I meant at the heart of the message is that medicine in general is confining the mind behind medical terms. It just seems so absurd to label 'thought' patterns to generalities itself.

I must of been tired and was typing what came to mind and not directing it specifically at you... just medicine in general, it grosses me out with the; "here, take this... it'll make yer brian* werk better!"

Whoops, had a typo.

Last Edited by Children of the Atom on 04/26/2013 01:51 AM

No, I mean literally like black helicopters and shit

Yup

Yes, because "enlightenment", is equivalent to demon possession. The altered states and mental processes are activated by spirits, usually fallen angels.

You might say that a christian indwelt with the Holy Spirit will act at odds with his old self, steeped in sin, but it's not quite the same.

The demons love the contradiction of their higher form of insanity, imposed on weak willed humans.

But there are NO helicopters!

That escalated quick

I think it's a case of exploring all corners within the circle of your mind and then discovering there are no parameters and then realizing the circle has become an infinigon with an infinite amount of corners. It's here were most start running infinigons around their tables chasing their own tails.

I think, you think, therefore you are.

Ah, gotcha. Understand now.
Also, I think those kind of medicines have such a back lash when they are stopped being used, that it really creates havoc with emotional states and moral judgement capabilities.

Personally, I think that is what is responsible for many people doing crazy things. They stop taking their meds for a few days, and start taking other drugs to curb the appetite, and the mixture just sets them out of bounds.

I don't agree with this. Many who channel, say, Jesus, think that it is good an holy and that Jesus/God is communicating to them. But, when someone else does the same thing, just leaves out the term Jesus or God, it is immediately demonized even though the message is the same.

I am, therefore I think.

I graduated with my masters in clinical psychology. Schizophrenia exists only as social construction. There are no physiological correlates of pathology. Enlightenment is also a poor use of terminology. Everybody is already enlightened. Realization is a better term. At some point in introspection, a realization will occur that there is no doer, only doing. The absolute subject and absolute object are one and the same. Question occurs: who is minding the show? That subject is impossible to reach, yet closer to you than yourself. You will realize that the universe is lawful, and there is nothing you can do because doing is an illusion. At some point, fear will begin to subside because you will realize that it is quite impossible for you to be harmed. But in the meantime, you will undergo a process of purification that is a bit like dismemberment. This is where perceived mental pathology may occur.

The quote about the mystic/shaman versus schizophrenic was from Carl Jung I believe.

What an awesome post.

I agree. Please go on AC...

Love this post BTW..

In alchemy there is a process in which heat is applied to the solution, causing the dross or impurities to rise to the surface. To examine your own dross intimately and in the harsh light of truth, can be a shattering experience for the ego and psyche in general.

While I would not say that it causes schizophrenia, the experience can bring about various self delusional states as the ego in its strenuous efforts to avoid this process can cause a fragmentation of the aspects of the psyche. In order to grow and continue on reintegration must occur, and for most the mind will regain equilibrium naturally over time. This process is not to be taken lightly, as there is no harsher judge of yourself, than yourself, when in the bright light of truth.

inability to discern between 2 kinds of influence
esoteric and exoteric

and lack of grounding work in the 'lower centres ' before aspiration to higher centres


drugs usually involved in activating higher centres but they are imbalanced due to the lack of WORK on lower centres


everybody wants to fly before they can walk

There's your answer.

If the mind is made manifest and the third eye opened, what do you think the difference between fear and love is?

LOL.
I mean this in the nicest way possible...
That perception is clearly imposed by what you call "demons"
Beware SevenThunders. You've been had.

Well...
"Demons" combined with a large dose of ignorance.

it is a program called the devil;; it was created to keep all those unworthy of the truth from the truth.

when one knows there is a devil it is easier to see him coming though still tricky at times.

I have only read the last page of the thread, and am not an expert in psychology, but will throw in my opinions.

I believe people with certain 'mental illness' are merely born without certain restraints in place within their brain. It is only 'doctors' who class them as being 'ill' or 'sick'. They are merely different.

So the schitzophrenic talking to invisible people in the street, is actually seeing into and interacting with beings in a dimension that the rest of us cannot see. That does not make them less real for him.

However, some psychics, etc, can also see into other dimensions, and talk to similar beings without having a 'mental illness'. Although some would try to classified it as such.

I believe that bi-polar is close to possession or channelling. I see possession as relating to bad entities, or mind control, and is involuntary.

Channeling is the good entities, and the channel always has a choice.

There are varying degree of enlightenment. Some come just by having an enlightened being visiting within a person, and sharing their own knowledge through brain and body connection. Others are attained through practices designed to raise you up through those same levels.

During that we get glimpses of the higher levels, and the feelings of bliss from same. That is what keeps us wanting to explore more.

The highest state I ever got to felt like walking on cotton wool, with the most amazing colours all around, and being totally connected to everyone and everything on the planet.

When you are 'enlightened' or seeing into the higher levels above human knowledge, you start seeing into other dimensions and seeing or channeling other beings. So again, some 'doctors' would qualify you as 'ill.

When I was channeling intensely, for days on end, I would avoid all people. Just in case one of my friends decided to take me to the mental hospital. I knew I would not be allowed out, if I had tried to explain what I was thinking and feeling.

But in reality, I was not crazy, I was just seeing a much bigger picture and into many more layers than ordinary people were able to see, therefore, were also unable to believe in, as I was able too.

Other times, when I had unexpected visitors show up, the spirits around me would purposely leave, so that I did not look silly.

Its all in other people's perception.

And yes, not all the being who serve the light, look, feel and sound like Jesus. But that does not mean they are not of the highest good, they are just different from us.

Also, I have encountered the devil on a couple of occassions, shortly before the elders who surround the throne and God himself. Or whatever our highest construct of Him is.

So, I often say, the devil travels with God, on the outer edge of His energy and glory. Sometimes that happens in life. If you face the devil, which is simply fear and doubt, you can become closer to God.

This happen to me. I had a spiritual experience that was so electric and so powerful that the kundalini rose up so fast and powerful it felt like my third eye exploded. You could feel the energy coming out of my crown chakra and I was wandering around feeling like i was walking on air or levitating in a state of all knowing. Every time I touched metal is was shocked by a powerful electric jolt. People told me if I did not ground myself i would become schizophrenic. I was in this state of being for about 2 months. I was told to wear a red shirt and was given grounding stones and crystals, set to a park to walk in the grass with my bear feet. By the end of the day i was back on earth. Craziest thing that ever happened to me. My aunt had this happen to her. She never grounded herself and became schizoid.

Delusions of grandeur.

Not knowing self.

Religion.

As you know I went through a hard time a while back.

Had to do some inner searching get to know myself better, that way identifying anything that is not me becomes easier.