Does the Beginning Activation of Enlightenment Cause Schizophrenia?

I think you have it backwards.

Schizophrenia causes the belief that you're beginning the Activation of Enlightenment.

Similar to the second post in this thread.

here is why there is no escape from dualism. anything that exists is part of "everything". it is in motion and in place for a reason, good bad or indifferent. philosophers have tried to define many schools of thought like dualism. these definitions are ethereal. This is precisely why the word of God states clearly to "not lean on our own understanding." It has nothing to do with staying ignorant but everything to do with men trying to box in ideas keeping one ignorant.

nobody is meant to operate from dualism. what is better is to see it operating in the minds of men. watch it as a silent observer and remain objective.

make sense?

Ahh yes, of course.

I noticed men need less sleep, women less food.

Have kind of taken a break from it all for a while, as I have felt very isolated, found myself pushing instead of flowing so have stopped all spiritual practices and am just chilling with my friends and family, the energy has slipped down again, yet I know now, that I can charge up, at will.

At one stage I very nearly broke, what with all the things I would see, and could very well see how easy it would be to dissolve in to madness, creating fears and thoughts that have the backing of a highly charged individuals behind them manifests lots in other planes.

Now if the same things manifested, I would ask them if they wanna play lol.

Break or bend.

Have a nice day chad.

I think I understand what you are saying but to be above or past dualism may be the wrong way to word it... I believe you can only find balance in ascension, becoming the duality itself therefore removing yourself from it.

Yes, Salt, that makes sense. That is what I meant when I say to 'transcend' dualism. Basically, we are submerged in duality, but in order to understand, say, divine aspects, we need to go beyond dualism.

Kind of hard to explain, and you are explaining it better than me.

Thanks, you too James.

but i digress...
those who enter a path that is not of the divine can be harassed, tormented, and ultimately destroyed. the spiritual realm is like a super highway. it is tricky and elusive. and for those who seek an alternative "truth" can fall prey to even deeper levels of entrapments which distance one from the divine even further and possibly forever.

Interesting article.


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Enlightenment = getting rid of the self, higher one or not. Believe it or not, does not change the fact.

By self, I am assuming you mean Ego.

What do you mean by Ego?

Exodus 33

Moses and the Glory of the Lord

12Moses said to the Lord, “You have been telling me, ‘Lead these people,’ but you have not let me know whom you will send with me. You have said, ‘I know you by name and you have found favor with me.’ 13If you are pleased with me, teach me your ways so I may know you and continue to find favor with you. Remember that this nation is your people.”

14The Lord replied, “My Presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.”

15Then Moses said to him, “If your Presence does not go with us, do not send us up from here. 16How will anyone know that you are pleased with me and with your people unless you go with us? What else will distinguish me and your people from all the other people on the face of the earth?”

17And the Lord said to Moses, “I will do the very thing you have asked, because I am pleased with you and I know you by name.”

18Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”

19And the Lord said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

21Then the Lord said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. 22When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”

The self, lol.

Yup.

Well there have been studies saying during an episode there are high Levels of DMT in the brain so, that would account for hallucinations? lol

makes ya wonder whats inside them...twined around them...


tasty treats lurk deep inside you...

Certainly. That is why it can be so difficult when discovering what we really are.

No it doesn't.

Really? Interesting.

I remember after I had my first experience (back in January) I could tell I had become super affected by other people's energy...

Short example...

The state fair was in my city in February and I really like roller coasters, the anti-gravity rides and my favorite, the 'free-falling' rides...so ofcourse I went with my housemate...after walking approximately 5 minutes into the crowd I literally took off running back towards the entrance of the fair, like I took off running so fast my housemate didn't catch up to me until much later, I had time to smoke a whole cigarette...

Once he caught up with me he asked 'what happened?' I tried to explain to him that I was picking up on others intentions and it freaked me out...he didn't understand then...but he does now...

I could 'feel' exactly what everyone around me was 'feeling' and even possibly 'thinking'...it freaked me out...

I backed away from my meditations (I was also doing a lot of breathing exercises while meditating) for about a month and I still take baby steps now...I always ask my soul not to show me anything I'm not ready for yet...

I agree...bend or break...

Things seem to be better for me now...I do feel isolated though...I'm just really at peace with everything now...which is weird when my attitude is peaceful and everyone around me is 'losing their shit'...

I literally can't be around someone who lives for deceiving and/or manipulating right now but I'm working on it...as I would like to open their eyes to another way...

Anyway, I hope you had a good weekend SM :)

Going out bird watching soon...I will have you in my thoughts while out enjoying nature...have a great day!

Hi heather. I had to take a step back as well. 2-3 years of lucid dreaming every night with other experiences on top of it took it's toll.

Bend or break.

Yesterday was rough, but overall, a good weekend.

Its hard to determine what is the "beginning activation". Anyways, the schizophrenia might be related to the lack of capability to deal with the understanding of patterns therefore being 'engulfed' by them.

many people search for the motive of proof what they know is true
discovering all you know is wrong
is sometimes tricky to emotionally accommodate

i imagine

Last Edited by aether on 04/22/2013 12:17 PM

He touches a bit on the topic.

and this /z\ has nothing to do with discovering what is true
it is all about accepting what you discover can never be true

Read the book "Operators and Things: The Inner Life of a Schizophrenic". It's a free ebook. One of the most compelling inside look of what goes on in the mind of a schizophrenic that i have ever read.

smashwords.com has a PDF file that you can read the book instantly.

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Whoa...yeah...

Enlightenment can change the way we use our brain. which may cause many to think they have schizophrenia and/or bi-polar. I have know several enlighten people and some were diagnose bi-polar and given medications that seam to slow down their enlightenment.