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New backdoor import ban of all parts kits and hi cap mags

[link to www.examiner.com]

[link to www.survivalblog.com]


ATFs final Ruling:

[link to www.gpo.gov]
 Quoting: DILKe


And this is supposed to stop even ONE shooting? LOL...

Of course not. It's ALL about tightening the noose around the necks of GOOD, DECENT, LAW-ABIDING citizens. It's all about protecting tyrannical rulers, from "lowly" serfs", that they not only intend to rule, but to exterminate.
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So what? All of those things will be made in the US from now on.
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My thoughts as well, time to set up my machine shop, thank you Barry!
 Quoting: Scribbler


Yeah...I was thinking the same.
This MAY have an unintended benefit to the USA firearms industry.

...the opposite of what the gun grabbers want.

hmm
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Set up shop it Texas. Hell, they probably get bombarded with volunteers.

(where is the "Will Work For Gun" textual?)muaha
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
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New backdoor import ban of all parts kits and hi cap mags

[link to www.examiner.com]

[link to www.survivalblog.com]


ATFs final Ruling:

[link to www.gpo.gov]
 Quoting: DILKe


This blatant communist (and traitor) needs to be brought up on chargers, along with at least half the "people" on his administration.
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^^^ charges ^^^
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He will ultimately be responsible for burning the whole shittere down to the ground.

Wake up. He did this to stop all of the ammo russia and the other countries have been running 24/7 to fill the shelves back up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8084990


And the shelves remain empty. Go figure.

Last Edited by Hard Eight on 04/23/2013 05:48 PM
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
Sam Houston

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
you are uninformed, if you do   
read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
and keys to teenage boys.   
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 
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So what? All of those things will be made in the US from now on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38652977


My thoughts as well, time to set up my machine shop, thank you Barry!
 Quoting: Scribbler


Yeah...I was thinking the same.
This MAY have an unintended benefit to the USA firearms industry.

...the opposite of what the gun grabbers want.

hmm
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Set up shop it Texas. Hell, they probably get bombarded with volunteers.

(where is the "Will Work For Gun" textual?)muaha
 Quoting: Hard Eight



Yeah...the more I think about it....the more I am sure this action is going to backfire on the government.
They will create a HUGE FIREARMS INDUSTRY in the USA that was not there before.

So maybe Obama has created some jobs after all. tounge

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Sorry but I don't fully understand how your country ticks in terms off new laws and legislative changes, but am I right in reading from that, that Obama wants to change gun ownership laws... puts it to your congress to approve... they don't approve it... so he just starts overruling it because he didn't like the outcome by using an 'executive orders'?

Have I got that right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36602571


yep
 Quoting: Hard Eight


That sucks. That REALLY sucks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36602571


Well, in fairness, he's just finding everything he can do by EO's. It's much less than he wanted from legislation, and it can be overturned by legislation, but he's doing what he can.

Which sucks, but it's much better than if the legislation he wanted had passed.
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He will ultimately be responsible for burning the whole shittere down to the ground.

Wake up. He did this to stop all of the ammo russia and the other countries have been running 24/7 to fill the shelves back up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8084990


And the shelves remain empty. Go figure.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


This was an interesting story about that.....

Ammo Manufacturers Scramble to Keep Up with Demand, Reassure Eager Customers
[link to www.cnsnews.com]


...just WHO is hoarding is still in question IMO. grnrolleyes
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My thoughts as well, time to set up my machine shop, thank you Barry!
 Quoting: Scribbler


Yeah...I was thinking the same.
This MAY have an unintended benefit to the USA firearms industry.

...the opposite of what the gun grabbers want.

hmm
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Set up shop it Texas. Hell, they probably get bombarded with volunteers.

(where is the "Will Work For Gun" textual?)muaha
 Quoting: Hard Eight



Yeah...the more I think about it....the more I am sure this action is going to backfire on the government.
They will create a HUGE FIREARMS INDUSTRY in the USA that was not there before.

So maybe Obama has created some jobs after all. tounge
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


hf
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Executive Orders have no rule of law outside the Federal Administration.

NONE. ZILCH. NADA.

Do not obey this order if you are not a Federal employee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33000054


ATFs final Ruling:

[link to www.gpo.gov]
 Quoting: DILKe


That ATF ruling sure sounds like he's well with in the law to do it. I don't agree with it, but if the Executive branch gets to determine what defense items are allowed to be imported, there isn't much we can do but be pissed about it.
Turdferguson

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He can not do this...it is against the Dick Bill. No executive order can stomp on our rights.
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Are you referring to The Dick Act 1902 (as amended)
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as with most of his policies, just expanding on what his predecessors have already done- 922.11R
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as with most of his policies, just expanding on what his predecessors have already done- 922.11R
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lame
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He can not do this...it is against the Dick Bill. No executive order can stomp on our rights.
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Are you referring to The Dick Act 1902 (as amended)
 Quoting: CE1


Meaningless.

Those are government created and given rights....which therefore....can be taken away by government.

The Constitution exemplifies GOD GIVEN RIGHTS which cannot be taken away.


Do NOT confuse the two. naughty
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Does that mean no more Mosin Nagants and Mausers?
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thats just the tip of the ice berg. Though, bolt actions might be exempt in this, dunno.

AK's, FAL's, any number of russian scatter weapons

butg the kicker is handguns, Glock, Sig's (not all are made here, buts are imported)

taurus frames are made in brazil, and imported here, to be built into full guns


thats just a few brands that would be effected
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Does that mean no more Mosin Nagants and Mausers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37021243


thats just the tip of the ice berg. Though, bolt actions might be exempt in this, dunno.

AK's, FAL's, any number of russian scatter weapons

butg the kicker is handguns, Glock, Sig's (not all are made here, buts are imported)

taurus frames are made in brazil, and imported here, to be built into full guns


thats just a few brands that would be effected
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38764209


Now if we could only get them to ban imports of all Chinese produced goods..... hmm tounge


popcorn smiley

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Does that mean no more Mosin Nagants and Mausers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37021243


thats just the tip of the ice berg. Though, bolt actions might be exempt in this, dunno.

AK's, FAL's, any number of russian scatter weapons

butg the kicker is handguns, Glock, Sig's (not all are made here, buts are imported)

taurus frames are made in brazil, and imported here, to be built into full guns


thats just a few brands that would be effected
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38764209


Many Springfield's are imported. My MDx says Croatia.
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
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"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
you are uninformed, if you do   
read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
and keys to teenage boys.   
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 
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He can not do this...it is against the Dick Bill. No executive order can stomp on our rights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36256663


Obama has always been up against the Dick.
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How could this NOT be an infringement on our 2nd Amendment Rights?!?!?
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

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Elder Bush did the same thing in 1989:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Clinton did it in 1998:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

And again in 2001:

[link to www.time.com]
Turdferguson

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A FEDERAL REPUBLICAN
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among other clauses specified in heavy legalese requiring commensurate analysis to identify just what the administration’s intentions are. Among the speculations of what this could enable are concerns that importing and International Traffic in Arms Regulations may go forward to reflect key elements within the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.

Never mind if Senate failed to pass. He's a dictator.
:dictater:
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This guy is the sneakiest mofo ever.. and that pic made my day
:/sdfhasdfshasd/:
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My thoughts as well, time to set up my machine shop, thank you Barry!
 Quoting: Scribbler


Yeah...I was thinking the same.
This MAY have an unintended benefit to the USA firearms industry.

...the opposite of what the gun grabbers want.

hmm
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Set up shop it Texas. Hell, they probably get bombarded with volunteers.

(where is the "Will Work For Gun" textual?)muaha
 Quoting: Hard Eight



Yeah...the more I think about it....the more I am sure this action is going to backfire on the government.
They will create a HUGE FIREARMS INDUSTRY in the USA that was not there before.

So maybe Obama has created some jobs after all. tounge
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Which brings to mind: "What the devil meant for evil, God meant it for good."
Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world.

Whatever feels good to your soul, do that.
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OBAMA....Destroying America one executive order at a time.

:BOBO:
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How many guns do Americans own?

According to the Congressional Research Service, in 2009 there were an estimated 310 million firearms in the United States (not including weapons on military bases), of which 114 million were handguns, 110 million were rifles, and 86 million were shotguns. The current population of the United States, according to the Census, is around 314 million.

The 1986 McClure-Volkmer Act forbids the federal government from establishing any “system of registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearms transactions or distribution.” And the 1993 Brady Act prohibits the establishment of any electronic registry of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions.

How many firearms are imported into the United States annually?
According to the ATF, 3.2 million guns were legally imported into the United States in 2011, up from 1.3 million in 2001.

[link to nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com]

Remove imported guns and ALL guns will increase in price and scarcity which is what they want before registry and confiscation.

obongo probably has EO's waiting to circumvent the above Acts (in red).
Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
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Thomas Jefferson

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read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
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-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 
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How could this NOT be an infringement on our 2nd Amendment Rights?!?!?
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ohappy

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3-D Printing will fix this.....
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How could this NOT be an infringement on our 2nd Amendment Rights?!?!?
 Quoting: Saddletramp


ohappy

The majority doesn't give a fuck.

 Quoting: Fire Watch


Will Obamaphone have 5 bar signal in FEMA CAMP?

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Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
Sam Houston

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
you are uninformed, if you do   
read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
and keys to teenage boys.   
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 
Hard Eight

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Why are you wankers worried? You should be buying American anyways right?

5a5a5a5a5a5a
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Loved my CZ's!Goofy Thumbefore the tragic canoe accident.
 Quoting: Hard Eight

Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.
Sam Houston

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson

If you don't read the newspaper   
you are uninformed, if you do   
read the newspaper you are   
misinformed. -- Mark Twain

Giving money and power to   
government is like giving whiskey   
and keys to teenage boys.   
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
 
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Might as well toss my c&r license this is bullshit!
We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN!
A pissed off American Veteran!
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Elder Bush did the same thing in 1989:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Clinton did it in 1998:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

And again in 2001:

[link to www.time.com]
 Quoting: Tferguson


So it failed three times......the fourth is the charm?

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- Albert Einstein.

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