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Jeff bauman jr's prosthetic legs seen hiden in a bag during the Boston Bombings!

 
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I've just found another picture... What on earth are those legs doing there??? Look at the bottom left corner of the pic

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 Quoting: Boeing 777


Ya that is just a guy sitting there. BUT! Zoom in on middle right, you see the guy in red bending over, look right behind his leg...is that a prosthetic?!?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


DID YOU NOT SEE THIS?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Looks more like a guy relaxing with his legs crossed..he knows he'll be there for awaile, at least thats what the script says...LOL
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On the second pic what the hell is going on with the guy with the brown trousers in front of the physician?? His legs are around 2ft apart and approx 1ft off the ground.
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Re: Jeff bauman jr's prosthetic legs seen hiden in a bag during the Boston Bombings!
I've just found another picture... What on earth are those legs doing there??? Look at the bottom left corner of the pic

[link to honestreporting.com]
 Quoting: Boeing 777


Ya that is just a guy sitting there. BUT! Zoom in on middle right, you see the guy in red bending over, look right behind his leg...is that a prosthetic?!?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


DID YOU NOT SEE THIS?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


yes I did see that.

the first few pics shows a foot on Jeff Bauman.
the problem is
it is after the blast

how did we miss that before ???

or was this shopped in ??
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I've just found another picture... What on earth are those legs doing there??? Look at the bottom left corner of the pic

[link to honestreporting.com]
 Quoting: Boeing 777


Ya that is just a guy sitting there. BUT! Zoom in on middle right, you see the guy in red bending over, look right behind his leg...is that a prosthetic?!?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


DID YOU NOT SEE THIS?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


It is the poster Jeff had for his GF..

[link to cryptome.org]

poster here

[link to 25.media.tumblr.com]

Last Edited by Tangy on 04/24/2013 02:44 PM
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better picture of the poster.

[link to cryptome.org]
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I've just found another picture... What on earth are those legs doing there??? Look at the bottom left corner of the pic

[link to honestreporting.com]
 Quoting: Boeing 777


Ya that is just a guy sitting there. BUT! Zoom in on middle right, you see the guy in red bending over, look right behind his leg...is that a prosthetic?!?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


DID YOU NOT SEE THIS?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


yes I did see that.

the first few pics shows a foot on Jeff Bauman.
the problem is
it is after the blast

how did we miss that before ???

or was this shopped in ??
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I believe one of his feet are on the bottom left here.. Where is a picture showing he has a foot attached?

[link to cryptome.org]
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I've just found another picture... What on earth are those legs doing there??? Look at the bottom left corner of the pic

[link to honestreporting.com]
 Quoting: Boeing 777


Ya that is just a guy sitting there. BUT! Zoom in on middle right, you see the guy in red bending over, look right behind his leg...is that a prosthetic?!?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


DID YOU NOT SEE THIS?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


It is the poster Jeff had for his GF..

[link to cryptome.org]

poster here

[link to 25.media.tumblr.com]
 Quoting: Tangy


The poster is white, the object I am taking about is flesh-toned, could be nothing....Hmm, well anyways the first picture you posted check this out: zoom in on the bottom of the picture, between the wooden fencing, slightly right of dead center, is that a human foot?! I think it is!
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better picture of the poster.

[link to cryptome.org]
 Quoting: Tangy


Ahh ya I see it now, wow in that picture that ladies ankles have been badly destroyed :( wonder if she had to have legs amputated...
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I believe one of his feet are on the bottom left here.. Where is a picture showing he has a foot attached?

[link to cryptome.org]
 Quoting: Tangy


it's a different person.

the guy in the red jacket is working
on somebody else, not Jeff.

Jeff is still in that pile
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zoom in on the bottom of the picture, between the wooden fencing, slightly right of dead center, is that a human foot?! I think it is!
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


yes it is a foot

with the shoe and sock missing
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That is a chair, I dont see anything that shows legs in that bag.

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it's a different person.

the guy in the red jacket is working
on somebody else, not Jeff.

Jeff is still in that pile


Don´t think so. Look at the proximity to the woman in the black and red top, to the right in the photo. Her position related to the amputee man seems quite correct to the other close-up photos if I´m not mistaken.
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Ya that is just a guy sitting there. BUT! Zoom in on middle right, you see the guy in red bending over, look right behind his leg...is that a prosthetic?!?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


DID YOU NOT SEE THIS?
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


It is the poster Jeff had for his GF..

[link to cryptome.org]

poster here

[link to 25.media.tumblr.com]
 Quoting: Tangy


The poster is white, the object I am taking about is flesh-toned, could be nothing....Hmm, well anyways the first picture you posted check this out: zoom in on the bottom of the picture, between the wooden fencing, slightly right of dead center, is that a human foot?! I think it is!
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


eeegads, I hadn't noticed that, I think it IS!! yuck.. poor guy.
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Re: Jeff bauman jr's prosthetic legs seen hiden in a bag during the Boston Bombings!
Another guy near Jeff also lost his lower left leg, could be his also.

dang..

edit..

It is a right foot, so most likely Jeff's.

Last Edited by Tangy on 04/24/2013 03:34 PM
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I see a chair.
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I believe one of his feet are on the bottom left here.. Where is a picture showing he has a foot attached?

[link to cryptome.org]
 Quoting: Tangy


it's a different person.

the guy in the red jacket is working
on somebody else, not Jeff.

Jeff is still in that pile
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25479711


I am not sure who's foot it is.. At least three legs were blown off at the knee that I know of.

edit.

Being that it is a right foot, I believe it did belong to Jeff. it looks like part of his pants, and his shoe are there also.

Last Edited by Tangy on 04/24/2013 03:36 PM
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I'll just leave this here...

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Why is there absolutely no blood for several frames, and what is the man in the gray hoodie putting on Jeff? No blood anywhere on the ground, not even on the black woman, or Jeff, or the gray hoodie guy until several frames later. Take a very close look at the pictures frame by frame.
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If you zoom into the third picture, Some trousers and a piece of metal can be seen.
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No, they can't. Not even close.

Maybe you need to get your eyes examined but most likely your head.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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I'll just leave this here...

[link to imgur.com]

[link to i.imgur.com]

Why is there absolutely no blood for several frames, and what is the man in the gray hoodie putting on Jeff? No blood anywhere on the ground, not even on the black woman, or Jeff, or the gray hoodie guy until several frames later. Take a very close look at the pictures frame by frame.
 Quoting: unicornsaredelicious


Because at that point, Carlos Crisis Cowboy hadn't got round to splashing the fake blood on the ground. Watch from 40 secs in:

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I'll just leave this here...

[link to imgur.com]

[link to i.imgur.com]

Why is there absolutely no blood for several frames, and what is the man in the gray hoodie putting on Jeff? No blood anywhere on the ground, not even on the black woman, or Jeff, or the gray hoodie guy until several frames later. Take a very close look at the pictures frame by frame.
 Quoting: unicornsaredelicious


What to do

If you witness an amputation:

Call emergency services.

Stop the bleeding. A complete amputation may not bleed very much. The cut blood vessels may spasm, pull back into the injured part, and shrink. This slows or stops the bleeding. If there is bleeding, do the following:

more at

[link to cancer.dartmouth.edu]



Vascular spasm

This is a prompt constriction of the broken blood vessel and is the most immediate protection against blood loss. Injury stimulates pain receptors. Some of these receptors directly innervate nearby blood vessels and cause them to constrict. After a few minutes, other mechanisms take over. Injury to the smooth muscle of the blood vessel itself causes a longer-lasting vasoconstriction where platelets release a chemical vasoconstrictor called serotonin. This maintains vascular spasm long enough for the other haemostatic mechanisms to come into play.


[link to www.virtualmedicalcentre.com]



Hemostasis

Sudden and severe loss of blood can lead to shock and death. When blood vessels are damaged, Hemostasis (clot formation) will arrest bleeding. This process is divided into three phases.

I. Vascular phase - Cutting or damaging blood vessels leads to vascular spasm of the smooth muscle in the vessel wall. This produces a vasoconstriction which will slow or even stop blood flow. This response will last up to 30 minutes and is localized to the damaged area.


[link to faculty.ucc.edu]


C. Wilson William, Christopher M. Grande, David B. Hoyt - 2007 - Medical
The body has a natural defense against blood loss after amputation and that is vasospasm, intense vasoconstriction causing arteries to clamp down in response.

[link to books.google.com]
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The american flag chair-bag is behind (from this photographer's perspective) the black iron patio area. it appears for several photos in this set

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here 2 officers are pointing in its direction , also spot just below them a bottle of red liquid

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yes, zoomed in on the 3rd pic...again W T F. Are there any pictures that tie this lawn chair bag to Bauman himself? Like a picture of him holding it, etc? Because that would be pretty damning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292637


This mysterious bag which no officials paid attention to was at the exact same location were the first blast went off.
 Quoting: Boeing 777


Of course they ignored it. It was a patriotic bag!
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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[link to www.flickr.com]
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Is this thread already dead?
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On arrival with no better pics than this....
SPAWN IS DEAD! LONG LIVE S.O.S. (Son of Spawn)!!!

Don't click it!!!! I'm warning you don't click that link.... no... no... STOP!!!!!

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Can anyone explain where the blood on the lady's feet came from???
That's the only bloody part of her body.
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 Quoting: Boeing 777


Who knows, but it's definitely the wrong color for blood. They really screwed up on the fake blood here.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

page7
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Re: Jeff bauman jr's prosthetic legs seen hiden in a bag during the Boston Bombings!
I'll just leave this here...

[link to imgur.com]

[link to i.imgur.com]

Why is there absolutely no blood for several frames, and what is the man in the gray hoodie putting on Jeff? No blood anywhere on the ground, not even on the black woman, or Jeff, or the gray hoodie guy until several frames later. Take a very close look at the pictures frame by frame.
 Quoting: unicornsaredelicious


What to do

If you witness an amputation:

Call emergency services.

Stop the bleeding. A complete amputation may not bleed very much. The cut blood vessels may spasm, pull back into the injured part, and shrink. This slows or stops the bleeding. If there is bleeding, do the following:

more at

[link to cancer.dartmouth.edu]



Vascular spasm

This is a prompt constriction of the broken blood vessel and is the most immediate protection against blood loss. Injury stimulates pain receptors. Some of these receptors directly innervate nearby blood vessels and cause them to constrict. After a few minutes, other mechanisms take over. Injury to the smooth muscle of the blood vessel itself causes a longer-lasting vasoconstriction where platelets release a chemical vasoconstrictor called serotonin. This maintains vascular spasm long enough for the other haemostatic mechanisms to come into play.


[link to www.virtualmedicalcentre.com]



Hemostasis

Sudden and severe loss of blood can lead to shock and death. When blood vessels are damaged, Hemostasis (clot formation) will arrest bleeding. This process is divided into three phases.

I. Vascular phase - Cutting or damaging blood vessels leads to vascular spasm of the smooth muscle in the vessel wall. This produces a vasoconstriction which will slow or even stop blood flow. This response will last up to 30 minutes and is localized to the damaged area.


[link to faculty.ucc.edu]


C. Wilson William, Christopher M. Grande, David B. Hoyt - 2007 - Medical
The body has a natural defense against blood loss after amputation and that is vasospasm, intense vasoconstriction causing arteries to clamp down in response.

[link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: Tangy


True, but how long does this spontaneous vaso-constriction last? I know, but lets see if you do.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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up to 30 minutes. plenty of time for someone to get a tourniquet on. Which the OP states happened about 2 to 3 minutes after blast?
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Can anyone explain where the blood on the lady's feet came from???
That's the only bloody part of her body.
[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Boeing 777


Who knows, but it's definitely the wrong color for blood. They really screwed up on the fake blood here.
 Quoting: INK3


To answer some of the questions:

Why is the blood bright red?


Arterial blood is the oxygenated blood in the circulatory system found in the lungs, the left chambers of the heart, and in the arteries.[1] It is bright red in color, while venous blood is dark red in color (but looks purple through the opaque skin). It is the contralateral term to venous blood.

This blood stays brighter red even when it dries.



Why didn't he 'Bleed Out'?


Jeff lost his legs below the knee, therefore the Femoral Artery wouldn't be damaged, just the much smaller 'superficial artery'

The femoral artery (Latin: arteria femoralis) is a large artery in the thigh. It is a continuation of the external iliac artery and begins at the inguinal ligament (femoral head). In this segment, it is also called the common femoral artery (arteria femoralis communis) and gives the deep femoral artery, which provides blood to the thigh. After the branching of the deep femoral artery, it is called the superficial femoral artery (arteria femoralis superficialis) in clinical parlance, because of its superficial course. It continues along the femur to provide blood to the arteries that circulate the knee and the foot and enters the adductor canal. After it emerges from the adductor canal through the adductor hiatus, it is named the popliteal artery.[1]


Hypovolemic Shock

Direct loss of effective circulating blood volume leading to:

A rapid, weak, thready pulse due to decreased blood flow combined with tachycardia
Cool, clammy skin due to vasoconstriction and stimulation of vasoconstriction
Rapid and shallow breathing due to sympathetic nervous system stimulation and acidosis
Hypothermia due to decreased perfusion and evaporation of sweat
Thirst and dry mouth, due to fluid depletion and
Cold and mottled skin (Livedo reticularis), especially extremities, due to insufficient perfusion of the skin
The severity of hemorrhagic shock can be graded on a 1-4 scale on the physical signs. This approximates to the effective loss of blood volume.



Vasoconstriction
is the narrowing of the blood vessels resulting from contraction of the muscular wall of the vessels, particularly the large arteries and small arterioles. The process is the opposite of vasodilation, the widening of blood vessels. The process is particularly important in staunching hemorrhage and acute blood loss. When blood vessels constrict, the flow of blood is restricted or decreased, thus, retaining body heat or increasing vascular resistance. Cutaneously, this makes the skin turn paler because less blood reaches the surface, reducing the radiation of heat. On a larger level, vasoconstriction is one mechanism by which the body regulates and maintains mean arterial pressure.


 Quoting: El_Duderino


Last Edited by Tangy on 04/28/2013 05:09 PM
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Look right above the Adidas sign, on the platform at the finish line – is that a rifle?

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Retardfull
Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
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