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How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck

 
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How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck
Say you saved 20% of your income and had it put into your 401k, amounting to $8,000 each year. This one move will result in a savings of $2,240 on your tax bill, plus $1,800 in company matching will be deposited into your account ($40,000 x 4.5% = $1,800.) By investing the $8,000, youíre already $4,040 wealthier; thatís a 50%+ return on your money without taking any risk simply because you were empowered by having knowledge of the tax laws! At the end of the year, your 401k would have $9,800 added to it. If, instead, you chose not to invest in your 401k, you would take home an extra $5,120 in your paycheck after income taxes, payroll taxes, etc. But ask yourself which you would rather have: An extra $5,120 in your paycheck each year - $197 per bi-weekly paycheck - or $9,800 deposited into an account that can grow tax-deferred for decades?

The answer isnít difficult. Were you to start this course of action at 25 years old and maintain it until you were 65, at a 10% compound annual rate of return, you would retire with over $4,337,000 in your 401k. Thatís not a joke, nor is it a typo.

[link to beginnersinvest.about.com]
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LOL Anti-math shill one starred me
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Make 40k for 40 years? $19 per hour. Wouldn't that be nice.
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Make 40k for 40 years? $19 per hour. Wouldn't that be nice.
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lol. $200 a week. The idea is to build up your 401K using your tax refunds so that at retirement you have an unholy shitload of money.
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Make 40k for 40 years? $19 per hour. Wouldn't that be nice.
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lol. $200 a week.
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What?
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Re: How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck
Make 40k for 40 years? $19 per hour. Wouldn't that be nice.
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lol. $200 a week.
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What?
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Not $19 per hour, $200 a week. It's more like minimum wage. $10 an hour or so. Not 40K, 401K. As in 401K plan.
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Ya but if you ever try to get your own money out early, you are penalized 50%
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Ya but if you ever try to get your own money out early, you are penalized 50%
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Don't take it out early. lol
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Make 40k for 40 years? $19 per hour. Wouldn't that be nice.
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lol. $200 a week.
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What?
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Not $19 per hour, $200 a week. It's more like minimum wage. $10 an hour or so. Not 40K, 401K. As in 401K plan.
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No, your example is based on $40,000 a year in income.

$40,000 / (40 hours a week * 52 weeks a year) = 19.23 per hour.
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lol. $200 a week.
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What?
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Not $19 per hour, $200 a week. It's more like minimum wage. $10 an hour or so. Not 40K, 401K. As in 401K plan.
 Quoting: Brisketball


No, your example is based on $40,000 a year in income.

$40,000 / (40 hours a week * 52 weeks a year) = 19.23 per hour.
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Oh yeah. It works with less though. Using the same principle. You can do some wild shit with taxes and 401k's.

Even on 20k a year it's $2 mil
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That is what I teach every day...the magic of exponential growth over time is just that! Magic!

Most people spend their lives making payments to a bank, but if they made those same payments to themselves and invested properly, they could be wealthy like me!
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck
Say you saved 20% of your income and had it put into your 401k, amounting to $8,000 each year. This one move will result in a savings of $2,240 on your tax bill, plus $1,800 in company matching will be deposited into your account ($40,000 x 4.5% = $1,800.) By investing the $8,000, youíre already $4,040 wealthier; thatís a 50%+ return on your money without taking any risk simply because you were empowered by having knowledge of the tax laws! At the end of the year, your 401k would have $9,800 added to it. If, instead, you chose not to invest in your 401k, you would take home an extra $5,120 in your paycheck after income taxes, payroll taxes, etc. But ask yourself which you would rather have: An extra $5,120 in your paycheck each year - $197 per bi-weekly paycheck - or $9,800 deposited into an account that can grow tax-deferred for decades?

The answer isnít difficult. Were you to start this course of action at 25 years old and maintain it until you were 65, at a 10% compound annual rate of return, you would retire with over $4,337,000 in your 401k. Thatís not a joke, nor is it a typo.

[link to beginnersinvest.about.com]
 Quoting: Brisketball


People don't realize that this math is why we are in so much trouble. It's called leverage. Your leveraged wealth is what the F-ed is trying to keep suspended. They can't do it forever. The leverage will fail sooner rather than later.
Let's see if in 10 years anyone has any leveraged wealth left !
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Most people fritter their money away on flat screens, casinos, and other crap. I started putting into my 401k at 24, and now at almost 40 I have close to a 700k dollars. I had even more, but my ex made off with some of it. Each time you get a raise, put some of it into your retirement. You'll never miss it that way. I figure I need 2 million minimum to retire and maintain my standard of living for 30 years. I'm counting on zero SS or other help. 2 mill sounds like a lot, but that's only 150k a year. By the time they tax my withdrawals, and considering the rate of inflation, it's really the equivalent of about 60k take home a year when I reach retirement age.
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Re: How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck
Most people fritter their money away on flat screens, casinos, and other crap. I started putting into my 401k at 24, and now at almost 40 I have close to a 700k dollars. I had even more, but my ex made off with some of it. Each time you get a raise, put some of it into your retirement. You'll never miss it that way. I figure I need 2 million minimum to retire and maintain my standard of living for 30 years. I'm counting on zero SS or other help. 2 mill sounds like a lot, but that's only 150k a year. By the time they tax my withdrawals, and considering the rate of inflation, it's really the equivalent of about 60k take home a year when I reach retirement age.
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Yep. It's all math.
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Too many word thingies with numbers and stuff.
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Too many word thingies with numbers and stuff.
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cruise Basically IRA's/401k's make you shitloads of money so that when you're old and saggy you can buy a pool boy/girl slave.
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OP, you are forgetting that the govt is going to take a shitload of that money when they raid it.
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OP, you are forgetting that the govt is going to take a shitload of that money when they raid it.
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Didnt they already do that?
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OP, you are forgetting that the govt is going to take a shitload of that money when they raid it.
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Didnt they already do that?
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I mean not borrow from it, I mean Cyprus that shit.
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Re: How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck
What gives you 10% annual rate of return?
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That is what I teach every day...the magic of exponential growth over time is just that! Magic!

Most people spend their lives making payments to a bank, but if they made those same payments to themselves and invested properly, they could be wealthy like me!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Exactly! I can't convince people of that, though. I've managed to accumulate almost $450K on an average salary of about $32,000/year. It isn't how much you make, people, it is what you do with it and what you don't waste it on (interest, late fees, bad check fees, legal fees from garnishments and liens, etc.....)

Also, a lot of people don't look at the total cost of an item. They only see the monthly payment. They think if they can make the minimum credit card payment, then they can afford the item. A lot of that mentality going on these days.
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LOL op.

Sure slave for 65 years hoping that you have the health to enjoy your close to death years before it's too late.

lol.

Don't you know retiring is a term first used in the 1800s... when a metal tire was no longer good for anything, they would take it to the smithey and have the wheel re-tired...

RETIRE = No longer good for shit.
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What gives you 10% annual rate of return?
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Exactly. OP premise is preposterous. The answer is naked shorting the mining stocks with the rest of the criminals, or making bullets and selling them at gun shows.
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What gives you 10% annual rate of return?
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The stock market has a 80 year average of 12% and if your employer matches your contributions you can easily double your money by just participating in the program.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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hey op lets say u are banned

oneday from getting your fait out of the impound

will u email them?
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Re: How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck
OP is an old-school schmooze true-believer.

He is believing the fact that the fake-digital money that his 401k shows is actually there and touchable but yet he can't take it out early to make sure it is real without being penalized a 50% loss.

So in reality, he only has 50% of his proposed money unless he doesn't kick the bucket before he RETIRED (and isn't good for shit).

Go ahead, retire with your wealth. You'll be too old to enjoy it and instead worry about keeping your lawn healthy and taking that RV you bought out of state once per year.
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That is what I teach every day...the magic of exponential growth over time is just that! Magic!

Most people spend their lives making payments to a bank, but if they made those same payments to themselves and invested properly, they could be wealthy like me!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Exactly! I can't convince people of that, though. I've managed to accumulate almost $450K on an average salary of about $32,000/year. It isn't how much you make, people, it is what you do with it and what you don't waste it on (interest, late fees, bad check fees, legal fees from garnishments and liens, etc.....)

Also, a lot of people don't look at the total cost of an item. They only see the monthly payment. They think if they can make the minimum credit card payment, then they can afford the item. A lot of that mentality going on these days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23829712


Good for you!!

If more people understood that they would have much better lives...and I don't mean just having money, but by their behavior and lifestyles...being wealthy is a behavior, not a money issue necessarily.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck
Make 40k for 40 years? $19 per hour. Wouldn't that be nice.
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lol. $200 a week.
 Quoting: Brisketball


What?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38931504


Not $19 per hour, $200 a week. It's more like minimum wage. $10 an hour or so. Not 40K, 401K. As in 401K plan.
 Quoting: Brisketball


Minimum wage? dude you can't even pay bills on 200 a week much less think about retiring....
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That is what I teach every day...the magic of exponential growth over time is just that! Magic!

Most people spend their lives making payments to a bank, but if they made those same payments to themselves and invested properly, they could be wealthy like me!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Until you get a stylish cyprus hari kari cut to your net worth )
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OP is delusional and has obviously checked out.


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