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How to Retire with Over $4.3 Million on Only $197 Dollars per Paycheck

 
Msmithspeanut1

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you'll be the guy sitting on "2 million" in cloth and I'll be the guy with hard assets to trade or sell for whatever new currency is in effect.

keep hanging on to your dear dollars though. I hear McDonalds has brand new items on their dollar menu.....
 Quoting: OptimusPrime


I own 2 homes, and property worth over 800k, free and clear. Own a Boxster and Suburban, both paid for with cash. Lots of other assets that are none of your business too. A retirement plan is the only way most people can compound their money, interest free. You're a fool not to take advantage of that.
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Yeah, and I have 3 vaginas s226
 Quoting: Msmithspeanut1


What's so hard to believe? 1 out of 10 Americans have more net worth than me. Nothing special, and I wasn't bragging. But my type of financial discipline works. Sorry you're poor. Stay in school.
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you'll be the guy sitting on "2 million" in cloth and I'll be the guy with hard assets to trade or sell for whatever new currency is in effect.

keep hanging on to your dear dollars though. I hear McDonalds has brand new items on their dollar menu.....
 Quoting: OptimusPrime


I own 2 homes, and property worth over 800k, free and clear. Own a Boxster and Suburban, both paid for with cash. Lots of other assets that are none of your business too. A retirement plan is the only way most people can compound their money, interest free. You're a fool not to take advantage of that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38508603


I own land in a couple states and keep supplies there and am a partner in a working farm in Lancaster. I don't like cars but have a motorcycle I ride sometimes and a bike I like to ride most of the time.

It's not much... but it's something. I'm not a wheeler and dealer.
 Quoting: Brisketball


Stay the course and you'll be surprised how your wealth adds up over time. I make good money but not anything too crazy. When you are free from car payments, mortgages, and the other things that bleed most people dry, you soon have more than you know what to do with, even on a 60 or 80k salary.
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It adds up slow, but it adds up is the point. I make money by not spending.
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seems like fewer and fewer companies are matching contributions

how much would your tax bill even be on a 200 paycheck (assuming that is weekly), you would probably get money back from the gov anyway
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04/27/2013 09:13 AM
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Op and others owe taxes on all their property yet they claim they own it " free and clear".

You do realize that property owners collect tax and do not PAY it? You show me an allodial title or land patent on anything then we can talk. Till then you are another peon in debt to the true owner of all you claim is " free and clear".

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
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04/27/2013 09:41 AM
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What gives you 10% annual rate of return?
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THIS! And, the government is coming for retirement accounts and they will steal this money from you.

Besides, we don't have 40 more years. We will be lucky to have 40 more months before this fiat currency implodes.
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seems like fewer and fewer companies are matching contributions

how much would your tax bill even be on a 200 paycheck (assuming that is weekly), you would probably get money back from the gov anyway
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This too!. My company no longer matches. What you put in is what you have.
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LOL Anti-math shill one starred me
 Quoting: Brisketball


Where the fuck can you get a 10% return on what is essentially a savings account?

This shit might have worked 30 fucking years ago, but we're in a very different paradigm, now!
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04/27/2013 09:47 AM
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What?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38931504


Not $19 per hour, $200 a week. It's more like minimum wage. $10 an hour or so. Not 40K, 401K. As in 401K plan.
 Quoting: Brisketball


No, your example is based on $40,000 a year in income.

$40,000 / (40 hours a week * 52 weeks a year) = 19.23 per hour.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38931504


Oh yeah. It works with less though. Using the same principle. You can do some wild shit with taxes and 401k's.

Even on 20k a year it's $2 mil
 Quoting: Brisketball


If I'm making 20K a year, theres no way I can afford to invest my money if I'm scraping by week by week, paycheck to paycheck.
Good > Bad
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What gives you 10% annual rate of return?
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^this^
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The insider mofos who made out like bandits bought the 30-year T-Bond in 1980, when it was sporting a 15% (or higher) coupon.

In case you haven't noticed, debt instruments are paying pretty much jack-shit in 2013, and ZIRP shows no sign of ending anytime soon.

You could go all-in on junk bonds, I guess.

pennywise
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LOL Anti-math shill one starred me
 Quoting: Brisketball


5 stars to offset the turd.

Very nice post.
Of course, by the time someone completes this process if they are starting today, $4.3 million will buy a small used car.
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LOL Anti-math shill one starred me
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5 stars to offset the turd.

Very nice post.
Of course, by the time someone completes this process if they are starting today, $4.3 million will buy a small used car.
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cruise

And a Happy Meal!
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I own 2 homes, and property worth over 800k, free and clear. Own a Boxster and Suburban, both paid for with cash. Lots of other assets that are none of your business too. A retirement plan is the only way most people can compound their money, interest free. You're a fool not to take advantage of that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38508603


I own land in a couple states and keep supplies there and am a partner in a working farm in Lancaster. I don't like cars but have a motorcycle I ride sometimes and a bike I like to ride most of the time.

It's not much... but it's something. I'm not a wheeler and dealer.
 Quoting: Brisketball


Stay the course and you'll be surprised how your wealth adds up over time. I make good money but not anything too crazy. When you are free from car payments, mortgages, and the other things that bleed most people dry, you soon have more than you know what to do with, even on a 60 or 80k salary.
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It adds up slow, but it adds up is the point. I make money by not spending.
 Quoting: Brisketball


Calculate the actual inflation rate into that over 30 years???!!! Paper currency is really worthless.

Dollars probably won't even exist when you retire.

They probably won't matter in a few years.
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04/27/2013 10:23 AM
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Yes, I am familiar with 'The Power of Compounding' and I suggest you subscribe to Dow Theory Letters. Richard Russell, with over 50 years of experience promoting the purchase of stocks based on value - and compounding - will tell you that it isn't working anymore, corruption and manipulation are the norm now. STAY OUT OF THE STOCK MARKET.
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It only takes one generational event to wipe you out!

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cruise

Tell that to the numerous Americans that had their 401ks wiped out during the financial crisis.
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I own 2 homes, and property worth over 800k, free and clear. Own a Boxster and Suburban, both paid for with cash. Lots of other assets that are none of your business too. A retirement plan is the only way most people can compound their money, interest free. You're a fool not to take advantage of that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38508603


I own land in a couple states and keep supplies there and am a partner in a working farm in Lancaster. I don't like cars but have a motorcycle I ride sometimes and a bike I like to ride most of the time.

It's not much... but it's something. I'm not a wheeler and dealer.
 Quoting: Brisketball


Stay the course and you'll be surprised how your wealth adds up over time. I make good money but not anything too crazy. When you are free from car payments, mortgages, and the other things that bleed most people dry, you soon have more than you know what to do with, even on a 60 or 80k salary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38508603


It adds up slow, but it adds up is the point. I make money by not spending.
 Quoting: Brisketball


How could a person making that amount of money afford rent, car, food, utilities, clothes, and still have 20% leftover? Ain't happening.
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Yes, I am familiar with 'The Power of Compounding' and I suggest you subscribe to Dow Theory Letters. Richard Russell, with over 50 years of experience promoting the purchase of stocks based on value - and compounding - will tell you that it isn't working anymore, corruption and manipulation are the norm now. STAY OUT OF THE STOCK MARKET.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward TURBO GOLD 33354070


I'm nearly 60, and I figure that the only way I'm going to comfortably retire is by taking a punt.

I'm all-in on physical silver, and mining stocks.

Fingers crossed.

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04/27/2013 11:03 AM
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so let me summarize,

wear bacon mask and work 40 years at 10$ hour.

good choices there.....
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Todays 4 million is probably wort like 40.000 35 years from now
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04/27/2013 11:14 AM
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I'd like to see the companies 401k plan where you earn 10% every year.....Most have limited investment options.
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04/27/2013 11:24 AM
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I'd love to hear what all you naysayers are going to do for retirement? A couple hundred ounces of silver? AHHAHAHA! Silver crashes farther and faster than the stock market. Were you asleep during the housing crisis? It's speculator central, and the big money bails, FAST.

As always, the prudent people diversify. 401k, land, silver/gold, ammo......

If the stock market truly crashed, like 60% or more, NOTHING will have value. How many of you are aware of the relationship between silver/gold and the DJIA? If the Dow goes down 50%, silver goes down 90%. If you don't like the idea of a 401k, do an IRA and buy physical gold/silver with it if that's your cup of tea. The basic point remains, pre-tax investing is the ticket to wealth for the average person.
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I'd like to see the companies 401k plan where you earn 10% every year.....Most have limited investment options.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26257191


I made nearly 30% last year through Fidelity. Small caps and international investments. It pays to do your homework and have some foresight. Over the last 20 years I've heard it all: I was an idiot for buying gold/silver in 1999, I was an idiot for jumping into the Dow at the housing crisis lows, blah blah blah. I'm to the point now where I am so far ahead of the arm chair critics that it's laughable. Time to drop the top on my Porsche and take a ride, and reflect on my good fortune and hard work. While someone is busy replying that I'm a liar, I'll be listening to the wail of that flat six.....
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I'd like to see the companies 401k plan where you earn 10% every year.....Most have limited investment options.
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Like all pension plans, 401Ks are designed to allow investments only in shit that has no return.

For your "financial safety", you understand.
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I'd like to see the companies 401k plan where you earn 10% every year.....Most have limited investment options.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26257191


I made nearly 30% last year through Fidelity. Small caps and international investments. It pays to do your homework and have some foresight. Over the last 20 years I've heard it all: I was an idiot for buying gold/silver in 1999, I was an idiot for jumping into the Dow at the housing crisis lows, blah blah blah. I'm to the point now where I am so far ahead of the arm chair critics that it's laughable. Time to drop the top on my Porsche and take a ride, and reflect on my good fortune and hard work. While someone is busy replying that I'm a liar, I'll be listening to the wail of that flat six.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38508603


See, YOU took responsibility for your own financial welfare, and congrats!

The vast majority of sheeple just won't go there.
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OP is an old-school schmooze true-believer.

He is believing the fact that the fake-digital money that his 401k shows is actually there and touchable but yet he can't take it out early to make sure it is real without being penalized a 50% loss.

So in reality, he only has 50% of his proposed money unless he doesn't kick the bucket before he RETIRED (and isn't good for shit).

Go ahead, retire with your wealth. You'll be too old to enjoy it and instead worry about keeping your lawn healthy and taking that RV you bought out of state once per year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38432813


OP is right, but do not make it qualified money.

meaning not in an IRA or 401(k).

save in any other, non-government-sponsored vehicle and do very, very well indeed if you start young.

Then you take it out, touch it, make loans to yourself, etc.
If you want, put it into an IUL policy.

Indexed univeral life policy. best ride out there.
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I'd love to hear what all you naysayers are going to do for retirement? A couple hundred ounces of silver? AHHAHAHA! Silver crashes farther and faster than the stock market. Were you asleep during the housing crisis? It's speculator central, and the big money bails, FAST.

As always, the prudent people diversify. 401k, land, silver/gold, ammo......

If the stock market truly crashed, like 60% or more, NOTHING will have value. How many of you are aware of the relationship between silver/gold and the DJIA? If the Dow goes down 50%, silver goes down 90%. If you don't like the idea of a 401k, do an IRA and buy physical gold/silver with it if that's your cup of tea. The basic point remains, pre-tax investing is the ticket to wealth for the average person.
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I do an IRA, it's dependable.
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OP is an old-school schmooze true-believer.

He is believing the fact that the fake-digital money that his 401k shows is actually there and touchable but yet he can't take it out early to make sure it is real without being penalized a 50% loss.

So in reality, he only has 50% of his proposed money unless he doesn't kick the bucket before he RETIRED (and isn't good for shit).

Go ahead, retire with your wealth. You'll be too old to enjoy it and instead worry about keeping your lawn healthy and taking that RV you bought out of state once per year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38432813


OP is right, but do not make it qualified money.

meaning not in an IRA or 401(k).

save in any other, non-government-sponsored vehicle and do very, very well indeed if you start young.

Then you take it out, touch it, make loans to yourself, etc.
If you want, put it into an IUL policy.

Indexed univeral life policy. best ride out there.
 Quoting: beeches


It really depends on what your IRA is invested in. People who took IRA invested in mortgages got assfucked pretty hard. Look for a dependable IRA, like one investing in CDs or something. Don't. Ever. Do this. With Bank. Of. America.
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I'd love to hear what all you naysayers are going to do for retirement? A couple hundred ounces of silver? AHHAHAHA! Silver crashes farther and faster than the stock market. Were you asleep during the housing crisis? It's speculator central, and the big money bails, FAST.

As always, the prudent people diversify. 401k, land, silver/gold, ammo......

If the stock market truly crashed, like 60% or more, NOTHING will have value. How many of you are aware of the relationship between silver/gold and the DJIA? If the Dow goes down 50%, silver goes down 90%. If you don't like the idea of a 401k, do an IRA and buy physical gold/silver with it if that's your cup of tea. The basic point remains, pre-tax investing is the ticket to wealth for the average person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38508603


I do an IRA, it's dependable.
 Quoting: Brisketball


IRA is good for tax deferment, but I use taxable mutual funds too because you might want to retire early...also I max out my IRA and need to shove cash into other vehicles.
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Tell the gorillas that. They'd run straight to the local KFC for the fried chicken.They don't give a damn about no retirement,then they wonder why they ain't got nuthing.





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