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Friendly Reminder: When posting articles - please REMEMBER the 50% rule. (Enforcing Bans on Copyright Violations)

 
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04/27/2013 02:27 AM
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Friendly Reminder: When posting articles - please REMEMBER the 50% rule. (Enforcing Bans on Copyright Violations)
In case some of you don't know, or forgot, we have a 50% rule for posting news and articles. Copying and pasting anything over 50% is considered a copyright violation.

Also, ALWAYS cite/link the source.

And, posting lyrics is forbidden.

Be careful, you guys!

You do not want your thread deleted or red karma for violating this very simple rule, do you?

Edit from phenn:

***also be careful when making CRV reports - ive noticed some are reporting as 100% or even over 50% and the article happens to be in compliance. be accurate in your reporting as the poster gets penalized for said violation of posting rules -


we get that sometimes the proxy youre using strips the forum of images and or font color - so some of you may not "see" the the "reminder" to the left of the posting box. so you have to remember our posting policies. - You all have been here long enough to know our posting policies - and FTR when you post, theres a HUGE RED FONT REMINDER to the left of the post box - cmon dont pretend you dont see it. its as subtle as a brick thru a window ffs - we will be enforcing bans for copyright violations and the -3 point negative red karma. theres no excuse folks

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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
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You know that's a great idea and
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You know that's a great idea and
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
 Quoting: Salt


Can you please explain to me the policy on posting lyrics with music?
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
 Quoting: Salt


Can you please explain to me the policy on posting lyrics with music?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


posting lyrics is also a violation.

posting a small excerpt with proper citation is acceptable.
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
 Quoting: Salt


Can you please explain to me the policy on posting lyrics with music?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


posting lyrics is also a violation.

posting a small excerpt with proper citation is acceptable.
 Quoting: Salt


Thank you.

Again, 50%?

Or less this time?
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
 Quoting: Salt


Can you please explain to me the policy on posting lyrics with music?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


posting lyrics is also a violation.

posting a small excerpt with proper citation is acceptable.
 Quoting: Salt


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Re: Friendly Reminder: When posting articles - please REMEMBER the 50% rule. (Enforcing Bans on Copyright Violations)
Salt, I once posted a full article to analyze and demonstrate how short the article was, and its lack of content on a particular subject. It is my understanding that this was a fair use. Would you agree?
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Salt, I once posted a full article to analyze and demonstrate how short the article was, and its lack of content on a particular subject. It is my understanding that this was a fair use. Would you agree?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18835401


if it is genuinely used for education purposes, it is always a good idea to post the statute:

This is copyrighted information presented under the Fair Use Doctrine of the United States Copyright Act (section 107 of title 17) which states: 'the fair use of a copyrighted work...for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.' In practice the courts have decided that anything which does not financially harm the copyright holder is fair use.

even if you are using copyrighted material for fair use, you still have cite/link the source.
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Salt, I once posted a full article to analyze and demonstrate how short the article was, and its lack of content on a particular subject. It is my understanding that this was a fair use. Would you agree?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18835401


if it is genuinely used for education purposes, it is always a good idea to post the statute:

This is copyrighted information presented under the Fair Use Doctrine of the United States Copyright Act (section 107 of title 17) which states: 'the fair use of a copyrighted work...for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.' In practice the courts have decided that anything which does not financially harm the copyright holder is fair use.

even if you are using copyrighted material for fair use, you still have cite/link the source.
 Quoting: Salt




*tickles your rump*
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In case some of you don't know, or forgot, we have a 50% rule for posting news and articles. Copying and pasting anything over 50% is considered a copyright violation.

Also, ALWAYS cite/link the source.

Be careful, you guys!
 Quoting: Salt


Thank you again. I remember.
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intillegent ppl get around the rule by quicly posting 2 post with 1st 50% and 2nd 50% spock
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04/27/2013 06:13 AM
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Re: Friendly Reminder: When posting articles - please REMEMBER the 50% rule. (Enforcing Bans on Copyright Violations)
Some link come up dead or non work yet the post is still alive. Perhaps this is a good time to remove posts that seem to paste more than 50% with dead links.
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04/27/2013 07:31 AM
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Re: Friendly Reminder: When posting articles - please REMEMBER the 50% rule. (Enforcing Bans on Copyright Violations)
This is all wrong.
The 'fair use' clause in copyright law is the allowance for small bits of articles or books (other) used for an express purpose.
You are writing about an article and say, "The AP phrased it like this." Just that part can be used.
If you have longer areas copied there must be an express purpose. If you are giving an example of Joyce's chain of consciousness writing it might be excused to copy and entire page.
The Internet has messed this all up. Soon things will, as they should, become much stricter, just like print media.

Some Internet sites say that just part of an article can be copied but you must give a written reason. This skirts and ignores the real reason for the fair use clause exclusion.

What you can do is copy a small section out with a comment that relates to that section and then give the link.

Last Edited by Rinty on 04/27/2013 07:32 AM
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Most articles only have two or three sentences of useful information anyways.

Paring down can be hard, I'm trying to get the hang of "just enough, while not too much".
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This is all wrong.
The 'fair use' clause in copyright law is the allowance for small bits of articles or books (other) used for an express purpose.
You are writing about an article and say, "The AP phrased it like this." Just that part can be used.
If you have longer areas copied there must be an express purpose. If you are giving an example of Joyce's chain of consciousness writing it might be excused to copy and entire page.
The Internet has messed this all up. Soon things will, as they should, become much stricter, just like print media.

Some Internet sites say that just part of an article can be copied but you must give a written reason. This skirts and ignores the real reason for the fair use clause exclusion.

What you can do is copy a small section out with a comment that relates to that section and then give the link.
 Quoting: Rinty


I used to blame websites for banning me for copywrite laws but its not the WEBSITES fault. Its our GOVERNMENTS FAULT!

I have since become wise and now hold the evil of copywrite on those who pass laws to control.
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04/27/2013 08:48 AM
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Re: Friendly Reminder: When posting articles - please REMEMBER the 50% rule. (Enforcing Bans on Copyright Violations)
This is all wrong.
The 'fair use' clause in copyright law is the allowance for small bits of articles or books (other) used for an express purpose.
You are writing about an article and say, "The AP phrased it like this." Just that part can be used.
If you have longer areas copied there must be an express purpose. If you are giving an example of Joyce's chain of consciousness writing it might be excused to copy and entire page.
The Internet has messed this all up. Soon things will, as they should, become much stricter, just like print media.

Some Internet sites say that just part of an article can be copied but you must give a written reason. This skirts and ignores the real reason for the fair use clause exclusion.

What you can do is copy a small section out with a comment that relates to that section and then give the link.
 Quoting: Rinty


I used to blame websites for banning me for copywrite laws but its not the WEBSITES fault. Its our GOVERNMENTS FAULT!

I have since become wise and now hold the evil of copywrite on those who pass laws to control.
 Quoting: elijiah777


bdancebdancebdance

Controling laws will ruin any society, family, culture, city, county, country, nations, peoples, and languages.
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Re: Friendly Reminder: When posting articles - please REMEMBER the 50% rule. (Enforcing Bans on Copyright Violations)
This is all wrong.
The 'fair use' clause in copyright law is the allowance for small bits of articles or books (other) used for an express purpose.
You are writing about an article and say, "The AP phrased it like this." Just that part can be used.
If you have longer areas copied there must be an express purpose. If you are giving an example of Joyce's chain of consciousness writing it might be excused to copy and entire page.
The Internet has messed this all up. Soon things will, as they should, become much stricter, just like print media.

Some Internet sites say that just part of an article can be copied but you must give a written reason. This skirts and ignores the real reason for the fair use clause exclusion.

What you can do is copy a small section out with a comment that relates to that section and then give the link.
 Quoting: Rinty


I used to blame websites for banning me for copywrite laws but its not the WEBSITES fault. Its our GOVERNMENTS FAULT!

I have since become wise and now hold the evil of copywrite on those who pass laws to control.
 Quoting: elijiah777


bdancebdancebdance

Controling laws will ruin any society, family, culture, city, county, country, nations, peoples, and languages.
 Quoting: elijiah777


Copywrite = control = greed & secrecy!

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In case some of you don't know, or forgot, we have a 50% rule for posting news and articles. Copying and pasting anything over 50% is considered a copyright violation.

Also, ALWAYS cite/link the source.

Be careful, you guys!
 Quoting: Salt


Good to know!

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In case some of you don't know, or forgot, we have a 50% rule for posting news and articles. Copying and pasting anything
 Quoting: Salt

50%!!!
YEAH BABY!

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Thank you
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
 Quoting: Salt


Why is it copyright infringement if the source is cited?
Good > Bad
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I only post smilies, so I'm exempt.
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In case some of you don't know, or forgot, we have a 50% rule for posting news and articles. Copying and pasting anything over 50% is considered a copyright violation.

Also, ALWAYS cite/link the source.

Be careful, you guys!
 Quoting: Salt


Thanks Salt! I didn't know but do now. ...and we keep that in mind.

Last Edited by JasmineinNM on 04/27/2013 09:59 AM
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
 Quoting: Salt


Why is it copyright infringement if the source is cited?
 Quoting: Euphony


because it is illegal to completely copy another person's work in its entirety in a discussion forum of this design.
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Re: Friendly Reminder: When posting articles - please REMEMBER the 50% rule. (Enforcing Bans on Copyright Violations)
In case some of you don't know, or forgot, we have a 50% rule for posting news and articles. Copying and pasting anything over 50% is considered a copyright violation.

Also, ALWAYS cite/link the source.

Be careful, you guys!
 Quoting: Salt


Thanks Salt! I didn't know but do now. ...and we keep that in mind.
 Quoting: JasmineinNM


YW. i am realizing that most people are not aware of the 50% rule and are making this mistake because they don't know it's wrong.
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
 Quoting: Salt


Why is it copyright infringement if the source is cited?
 Quoting: Euphony


Because you are taking the intellectual property of another. However, you make copy small amounts FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE and cite the source and that is an exception called the fair use clause. Just limiting the amount to 50% is not enough. In time the Internet must catch up to this.
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Thank you for the clarification, I often find myself wondering what constitutes a 'copyright violation' on GLP.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


yes. i think most people don't realize that posting an article in it's entirety is a copyright violation. 50% or less is acceptable but be sure to include a working link.
 Quoting: Salt


Why is it copyright infringement if the source is cited?
 Quoting: Euphony


Because you are taking the intellectual property of another. However, you make copy small amounts FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE and cite the source and that is an exception called the fair use clause. Just limiting the amount to 50% is not enough. In time the Internet must catch up to this.
 Quoting: Rinty


One cannot be one with intellectual property. You should think about what I am saying because you are out of the ONE!





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