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HOAX ALERT --- "PROOF Old Pic & Video" --JEFF BAUMAN ---- Guy In Wheel chair with Leg Bone petruding

 
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FEMA HIRING ACTORS TO RUN LIVE TERROR DRILLS.
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realism is their pride.
check out the page on Moulage. this describes the types of props used to bring that high level of realism, which includes plastic bones, etc.

just sayin.

a drill was scheduled. that is a fact.
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Most double amputees that look normal in pants and have a normal gait are cut off below the knee. Losing the knee joint makes it more obvious its prosthetics you are walking on.
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I still cannot figure out why the plate glass from the store windows was doing on the sidewalk, unless the glass, which can be heard being taken out after the loud boom, was removed to let the ready made props march out to the sidewalk after the smoke screen was made, with help from the flags and barricades which helped obscure view. Not one of the victims had their hair singed? The blonde woman with the red top that was all tattered didn't have a hair out of place and no blood at all dripping the parts of her body where her clothes were shredded? This is all very confusing to me.....even the blood looks like a bright paint. Blood is not that bright after is spills on a sidewalk, it is much, much darker....
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Totally agree with you about the blood on the sidewalk (looks like a badly "enhanced" pic), but, the glass going outwards... if its a dual glass window (in the UK we call it "double glazed"), the outer glass breaks and the air pressure from the back glass forces back outwards and scatters the glass in the "wrong" direction. (hope that makes sense)
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arterial not venous.
Either way, he laid there for more than 6 minutes according to the time clock shown in the pictures. Why was the black lady that was right beside him taken on a stretcher before Jeff was WHEELED out? Why is everyone just milling around Jeff when OBVIOUSLY he was pretty screwed up. Quick scan of the wounded and ANY SANE person would clearly run to Jeff first. Why didn't they?

I'm NOT saying this is an actor, I'm not saying he isn't. All I'm saying is at this moment there are a lot of unanswered weird questions.
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Where Is Jeff Bauman BEFORE the Bombs Went Off?
VIDEO.

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why did he have both legs amputated above the knee when the picture in the wheel chair shows the injury below the left knee
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Where did he get his wheelchair from that they wheeled him away in???? If it wasn't already there then where did it come from??? There are not wheelchairs on every corner just in case someone needs one!!!
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I was telling my Wife the same thing, where the hell did all of these wheel chairs come from?

They were everywhere during the Marathon ...lol

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There was a drill... and also a new stretcher system was being tested... I can't find the links, but there's a newspaper article prior to the event talking about the new stretchers...
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I see that "petruding" is a word, now!

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COINTELPRO much? People stop listening to these people. If you see an outrageous conspiracy claim that would defy the belief of a rational person, know that it is a COINTELPRO Op. This was not staged by actors. People died and people were severely injured by a bomb. This is a tactic used to cover a true conspiracy. Throw outragous conspiracy claims out there, fake some so called evidence for it that can be proven false and you will marginalize anyone and anything else that points to a conspiracy in the publics eye. You can't tell that that is Jeff Blaum in the last segment of the video, it is too blurry. I don't see any forearm tat in this pic. [link to 1.bp.blogspot.com]
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No bodies Died or Hurt at Boston Marathon HOAX
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I don't understand why the government would bother using actors and faking injuries if they're evil enough to stage a false flag and blow up the marathon there would be plenty of real injured people for them to use.
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Exactly. The effort it would take to spare lives would be far more of a pain than to just let some people die to help incite our outrage and channel it towards their purpose.
I mean really, when has the government cared about sacrificing lives for their "greater cause", especially in the bullshit wars we've fought?
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Maybe the soldiers are actors too ;)
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The sad truth is that we live in an age where anything can be faked. Unfortunately for victims of suspected false flags, they'll have to prove it to the doubters from now on. That's not fair to victims of actual tragedies...but neither are false flags by the government. I know this was a false flag...but a hoax? I'm reserving my judgement for the time when these victims let us know more, after they get out of the hospital. It's also possible that it was a mixture - part hoax and part actual. Especially with 2 bombs going off. One could have been for the cameras, and one for casualties...though that doesn't make too much sense. I guess one way we'll know is if victims of one bomb and not the other magically turn into lobbyists fighting for some liberty losing cause. BTW, Im pretty sure those are two different guys. Nose slopes are different.
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I don't understand why the government would bother using actors and faking injuries if they're evil enough to stage a false flag and blow up the marathon there would be plenty of real injured people for them to use.
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Exactly. The effort it would take to spare lives would be far more of a pain than to just let some people die to help incite our outrage and channel it towards their purpose.
I mean really, when has the government cared about sacrificing lives for their "greater cause", especially in the bullshit wars we've fought?
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Bullshit. The greater the number of really injured or dead the greater the chance that some gungho injured or relative or friend will go on a crusade to find out what really happened, not to mention the dozens of lawsuits that would likely arise all of which would present a nightmare for the "planners" to control. It's also much easier to blur the line between a drill and a false flag if your using actors. Also the actors can serve multiple uses in the future, they are predictable/controllable, compromised.
A genuinely injured person is non of the above.
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Where did he get his wheelchair from that they wheeled him away in???? If it wasn't already there then where did it come from??? There are not wheelchairs on every corner just in case someone needs one!!!
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Marathon race, they always have wheelchairs. You know it happens that people collapse during the races and at the end, so they stick em in a wheelchair instead of dragging their carcasse around or to the med-tent.
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I'm posting after only seen the video, yet, I am not convinced the second guy is Jeff.

The hair and nose look different.

...going back to read the thread


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the guy in the video op posted has a very similar long sleeve teeshirt on as the double amputee pictured getting wheeled away in boston.

I know its not much but a nice little coincidence all the same.
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Can someone embed this vid please. .?
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Can someone embed this vid please. .?
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Where did he get his wheelchair from that they wheeled him away in???? If it wasn't already there then where did it come from??? There are not wheelchairs on every corner just in case someone needs one!!!
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I was kind of wondering where the chair came from, I think sometimes they have them in ambulances and they just started raiding the vehicles for any chairs, stretchers or things to transport people with.
My personal opinion on Jeff being left unattended my medical staff so long is that they probably thought he was a going to die for sure, and were trying to help the people they thought they could actually save. Kind of shitty really but I think they were trying to prioritize who they thought had a chance.
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Can someone embed this vid please. .?
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This is how the military trains for trauma situations.
Yes, we treat volunteer victims to learn how to save lives when the real thing happens. You can easily tell it's fake when you're going through the exercises but it's just to get us used to looking at a glance what coming upon horrible injuries will look like so we're not entirely shocked into inaction when we see it for real. They also have the volunteers scream bloody murder the whole time we're treating them, especially when you jostle or touch their fake wounds. I've had them startle the shit out of me before. It's really nerve-wracking actually, but it prepares you for the real thing.
Posting these type of videos just shows how the military trains, it doesn't prove that the people in the bombing were actors.

If excellent training like this didn't exist, with as much realism as possible, can you imagine how many civilian and military medics would stand immobilized in horror and shock the first time they saw a true victim on the ground with no legs screaming? Has to be done.
The reason acting scenarios are used for training is to demonstrate what REAL LIFE ones (such as the Boston Bombing) will look and feel like.

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I don't understand why the government would bother using actors and faking injuries if they're evil enough to stage a false flag and blow up the marathon there would be plenty of real injured people for them to use.
 Quoting: whoopdeedoo


Exactly. The effort it would take to spare lives would be far more of a pain than to just let some people die to help incite our outrage and channel it towards their purpose.
I mean really, when has the government cared about sacrificing lives for their "greater cause", especially in the bullshit wars we've fought?
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Maybe the soldiers are actors too ;)
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remember the three Sandy Hoax 'police' now showed up as Craft staff? lol
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None of this matters.

The fact the dude was wheeled away in a FUCKING WHEEL CHAIR while sitting UP.... LOOKING AROUND AND WIDE AWAKE with not ONE SINGLE drop of blood trail under the wheelchair, after having BOTH his fucking legs blown off is a fucking JOKE.

THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

Why did the black lady who was laying beside him get carried out on a fucking stretcher, yet the ONE dude who needed to be the poster boy for "terror attacks" was wheeled away SITTING UPRIGHT in a fucking wheel chair?
Here is a little fact... BLOOD FLOWS DOWN.
It is a physical impossibility for that man to be alive and coherent while some dude pinches one single vein while strolling around in a wheel chair.


Fuck who ever thinks different.
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None of this matters.

The fact the dude was wheeled away in a FUCKING WHEEL CHAIR while sitting UP.... LOOKING AROUND AND WIDE AWAKE with not ONE SINGLE drop of blood trail under the wheelchair, after having BOTH his fucking legs blown off is a fucking JOKE.

THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

Why did the black lady who was laying beside him get carried out on a fucking stretcher, yet the ONE dude who needed to be the poster boy for "terror attacks" was wheeled away SITTING UPRIGHT in a fucking wheel chair?
Here is a little fact... BLOOD FLOWS DOWN.
It is a physical impossibility for that man to be alive and coherent while some dude pinches one single vein while strolling around in a wheel chair.


Fuck who ever thinks different.
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clappa
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I was wondering when somebody would point out that they should be on a stretcher with tourniquets applied and the victim tilted backwards to bring blood to the head. The blood loss would have been tremendous and how this person could even be close to cognizant is mindblowing. When is the last time anyone in that type of trauma was wheeled from the accident? Why wouldn't he have been the first to be treated and an ambulance right there at the scene? Has anyone confirmed that the ones attending his injuries were actually Boston area EMT's?
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Where did he get his wheelchair from that they wheeled him away in???? If it wasn't already there then where did it come from??? There are not wheelchairs on every corner just in case someone needs one!!!
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I was telling my Wife the same thing, where the hell did all of these wheel chairs come from?

They were everywhere during the Marathon ...lol

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Gee, it's a fucking MARATHON! You don't suppose they have a bunch of those wheelchair thingies in case RUNNERS have injuries, now do you?

Nah, not enough self-serving drama in that is there?
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You idiots the whole thing was a con job! wake up fools. The second actor bomber is Steve Levine and his actor Russian Dad is Ian Levine. Look them up on facebook where you will find the supposed wife of the oldest actor bomber.
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What do you mean by "arm band"? is that a tattoo? Why does the pic of Jeff in the red shirt have a white band that high up on his arm? is he covering something there? The OLD and grainy footage of double amputee does appear to have a tattoo on left arm. Does Jeff?
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Jeff at hospital in redshirt-
Left wrist - hospital name band

Right arm (elbow area) - tape/bandage at prior IV needle site

The guy in the video - has black tattoos, at back of forearms.


....two different guys...

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Be careful of disinfo agents. My bet is they purposely lead the critical thinkers down the wrong rabbit hole. So when the disinfo is proven as a lie, the theorists will stop thinking and questioning other lies.

Just because Jeff isn't the Vogt man, doesn't mean we have to believe everything the govt or the official story tells us!

It's not black and white. Sills are saying that the official story is ALL true because not EVERYtHING was faked.

Of course not everything was faked. But some "real" elements doesn't mean parts of it was faked
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You idiots the whole thing was a con job! wake up fools. The second actor bomber is Steve Levine and his actor Russian Dad is Ian Levine. Look them up on facebook where you will find the supposed wife of the oldest actor bomber.
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Screen capture the pics and post a link.
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None of this matters.

The fact the dude was wheeled away in a FUCKING WHEEL CHAIR while sitting UP.... LOOKING AROUND AND WIDE AWAKE with not ONE SINGLE drop of blood trail under the wheelchair, after having BOTH his fucking legs blown off is a fucking JOKE.

THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

Why did the black lady who was laying beside him get carried out on a fucking stretcher, yet the ONE dude who needed to be the poster boy for "terror attacks" was wheeled away SITTING UPRIGHT in a fucking wheel chair?
Here is a little fact... BLOOD FLOWS DOWN.
It is a physical impossibility for that man to be alive and coherent while some dude pinches one single vein while strolling around in a wheel chair.


Fuck who ever thinks different.
 Quoting: Yuri Gervasii


clappa
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I was wondering when somebody would point out that they should be on a stretcher with tourniquets applied and the victim tilted backwards to bring blood to the head. The blood loss would have been tremendous and how this person could even be close to cognizant is mindblowing. When is the last time anyone in that type of trauma was wheeled from the accident? Why wouldn't he have been the first to be treated and an ambulance right there at the scene? Has anyone confirmed that the ones attending his injuries were actually Boston area EMT's?
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There are definitely major inconsistencies.

The black woman was casually lying there with the mans blown off legs laying on her head. Not a drop of blood.

Next picture, she's strapped on to a gurney with an open-eyed death stare, covered in blood. She looked dead. When minutes before, she was casually propping herself up.

Then the guy with legs blown off is half-assed plunked on to a wheelchair. Why the heck he wasn't strapped onto a gurney makes absolutely no medical sense..
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Can someone embed this vid please. .?
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Thanks for the video

Very real, I have been that Combat lifesaver for my Team when bad things happen to great soldiers.

These guys do a great job training those Marines.

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