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If God asked atheists and evolutionists THIS question- wonder how they would answer him:

 
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"Who is this that is obscuring counsel
By words without knowledge?
 3 Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man,
And let me question you, and you inform me.
4 Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth?
Tell [me], if you do know understanding- Job 38:1-4



 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


hmm
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Atheists don't listen to that gay music
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"Who is this that is obscuring counsel
By words without knowledge?
 3 Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man,
And let me question you, and you inform me.
4 Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth?
Tell [me], if you do know understanding- Job 38:1-4



 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


hmm
 Quoting: Tanarus


Cha
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Atheists don't listen to that gay music
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" 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable"- Romans 1:20
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let a real god come and ask me those questions instead of a faker writing things on parchment he says came from some god.
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Answer fail, disqualified. Superiority bluff, ignorance flaunt.
anon
 Quoting: DGN


Yeah.......people can teach God stuff you know
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


(like they should be asking God:

"Where did you happen to be when I Helped you design all living things"?
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let a real god come and ask me those questions instead of a faker writing things on parchment he says came from some god.
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Have you taken time to look at this incredible planet and all life on it, including your own lately?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


The beauty of our planet and our cosmos have nothing to do with scriptural gods and demons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032253


So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons.
Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.
~ Christopher Hitchens.
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Have you taken time to look at this incredible planet and all life on it, including your own lately?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


The beauty of our planet and our cosmos have nothing to do with scriptural gods and demons.
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So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)-

So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE
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The beauty of our planet and our cosmos have nothing to do with scriptural gods and demons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032253


So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)-

So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Why does it have to come from a creator?
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The beauty of our planet and our cosmos have nothing to do with scriptural gods and demons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032253


So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)-

So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What creator? I haven't seen any evidence of this, I'll wager a bet that you haven't either. Not dodging the question, I don't know the answer. But if you claim that you know the absolute origin of the universe and also have a relationship with the being that created it (assuming there was one), I'm sorry but that's just absurd.

If the universe must have a creator then the same logic can be applied to your deity, so unless you have the answer to where it came from also, I wouldn't go any further. (Some evidence of its existence in the first place would be nice also.)

Scientists work on questions like the origin of the universe without bias, they only go where there evidence tells them to go. There is no evidence of a divine creator, it is not logical too assume there was, it opens up too many other questions which can never be answered.


Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.
~ Christopher Hitchens.
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Re: If God asked atheists and evolutionists THIS question- wonder how they would answer him:
"Who is this that is obscuring counsel
By words without knowledge?
 3 Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man,
And let me question you, and you inform me.
 4 Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth?
Tell [me], if you do know understanding- Job 38:1-4


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Isn't this a rather paradoxical question? If God is omniscient there is no need for him/her/it to ask questions of anyone so I see this question as rather silly, and actually I'd suspect a subconscious doubt of the existence of this God within yourself in asking such a question. I don't mean to offend you, OP, just a thought my part.
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I think the real question here is...

Is CelestialMaiden what DGN calls himself when he's in his full make-up and pantyhose?
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Re: If God asked atheists and evolutionists THIS question- wonder how they would answer him:
Which God?
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"Who is this that is obscuring counsel
By words without knowledge?
 3 Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man,
And let me question you, and you inform me.
 4 Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth?
Tell [me], if you do know understanding- Job 38:1-4


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Isn't this a rather paradoxical question? If God is omniscient there is no need for him/her/it to ask questions of anyone so I see this question as rather silly, and actually I'd suspect a subconscious doubt of the existence of this God within yourself in asking such a question. I don't mean to offend you, OP, just a thought my part.
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No offense taken

And, nope, no doubt within myself whatsoever that God exists.

IF one were to read the book of Job where that scripture was quoted from....and read the context and entire story, the question is not silly at all.

Job was a righteous person alive at that time. At one point though he became overly concerned about his own righteousness....losing sight of the bigger picture. So Jehovah God posed many questions to Job, asking him where he happened to be when The creation of all things began....

he touched on things like the forces of nature, statutes of the heavens, the constellations, the wisdom in creation, the ways of beasts and birds...etc.
These were questions only God could answer because he is the Creator of all things.

Job's response to God was:

"I have come to know that you are able to do all things
And there is no idea that is unattainable for you.
Therefore I talked but I was not understanding
Things too wonderful for me, which I do not know.
Hear, please, and I myself shall speak,
I shall question you, and you inform me.
In hearsay I have heard about you,
But now my own eye does see you.
That is why I make a retraction,
And I do repent in dust and ashes."- Job 42:1-6




How much more does this question posed to Job apply to all today who fail to honor the Creator of all things?
Not a silly question at all


Life is too complex to question the existence of God
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Re: If God asked atheists and evolutionists THIS question- wonder how they would answer him:
Only "proof" of god ever existing are these 2000 year old writings. I'm afraid they just don't count anymore.

If god really wanted us to believe in him (wait, how can a universal power have a gender?), "he" would talk to us directly.

Otherwise, we could as well believe in Zeus or Ukko Ylijumala.

Think critically. Don't just swallow all the nonsense you're being spoonfed.
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If god exists, he/she wouldn't ask such a lame question like that. If you have any other question that's not a rhetorical one, as an atheist I would love to try and answer it but I believe a god wouldn't ask any questions to look cool and smart, he would just love.
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If god exists, he/she wouldn't ask such a lame question like that. If you have any other question that's not a rhetorical one, I would love to try and answer it.
hf
 Quoting: BlavkRabbit


A thorough explanation was just given quoted above as to why God asked Job that question


So here is a question

Can you explain how all things came into existence?
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Only "proof" of god ever existing are these 2000 year old writings. I'm afraid they just don't count anymore.

If god really wanted us to believe in him (wait, how can a universal power have a gender?), "he" would talk to us directly.

Otherwise, we could as well believe in Zeus or Ukko Ylijumala.

Think critically. Don't just swallow all the nonsense you're being spoonfed.
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To look at creation and deny a creator.....is beyond belief
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To look at creation and deny a creator.....is beyond belief
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Who created God?
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So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)-

So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What creator? I haven't seen any evidence of this, I'll wager a bet that you haven't either. Not dodging the question, I don't know the answer. But if you claim that you know the absolute origin of the universe and also have a relationship with the being that created it (assuming there was one), I'm sorry but that's just absurd.

If the universe must have a creator then the same logic can be applied to your deity, so unless you have the answer to where it came from also, I wouldn't go any further. (Some evidence of its existence in the first place would be nice also.)

Scientists work on questions like the origin of the universe without bias, they only go where there evidence tells them to go. There is no evidence of a divine creator, it is not logical too assume there was, it opens up too many other questions which can never be answered.


 Quoting: LSDreamer


The REAL issue deep down in the gut of all those who deny a Creator is= to believe in a Creator means being accountable to him-
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If god exists, he/she wouldn't ask such a lame question like that. If you have any other question that's not a rhetorical one, I would love to try and answer it.
hf
 Quoting: BlavkRabbit


A thorough explanation was just given quoted above as to why God asked Job that question


So here is a question

Can you explain how all things came into existence?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Simple answer, no. And there is a great possibility we never will. But that does not mean the cosmos was created by a supreme being.
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If god exists, he/she wouldn't ask such a lame question like that. If you have any other question that's not a rhetorical one, I would love to try and answer it.
hf
 Quoting: BlavkRabbit


A thorough explanation was just given quoted above as to why God asked Job that question


So here is a question

Can you explain how all things came into existence?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Simple answer, no. And there is a great possibility we never will. But that does not mean the cosmos was created by a supreme being.
 Quoting: BlavkRabbit


Right, the laws of physics do.

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I would tell God (any God) to go away and don't come back. (not that he will turn up in the first place), so moot point.
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I would tell God (any God) to go away and don't come back. (not that he will turn up in the first place), so moot point.
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Like this?
"And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and a great earthquake occurred; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the entire moon became as blood, 13 and the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as when a fig tree shaken by a high wind casts its unripe figs. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and [every] island were removed from their places. 15 And the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and [every] free person hid themselves in the caves and in the rock-masses of the mountains. 16 And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rock-masses: “Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17 because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” Rv6:12
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Why can't science and God/universal force/etc coexist together? Why does it always have to be one OR the other?
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This whole thread is the OP using his own ignorance as proof that he knows how the universe exists. Your ignorance sir is not a compelling argument.

Besides, everyone knows that the great dung beetle in the sky is the one pushing the sun around.

Explain how the sun moves through the sky without the DUNG BEETLE GOD?
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If only mankind would have kept Jehovah's HOLY weekly Sabbath Day as he instituted in Eden!

Not only would there never be a question or thought of evolution, there would not be all the fractions of christianity we see today.

Genesis 2:3 " Then God (Jehovah) blessed the seventh day and SANCTIFIED it, because in it He rested from all his work which God had created and made." ( emphasis mine, ofcourse.)
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let a real god come and ask me those questions instead of a faker writing things on parchment he says came from some god.
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Answer fail, disqualified. Superiority bluff, ignorance flaunt.
anon
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Yeah.......people can teach God stuff you know
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yet you deign to put yourself into the position of God. You are not.
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Why can't science and God/universal force/etc coexist together? Why does it always have to be one OR the other?
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They coexist perfectly together. Science is man's research into the magnificent things of God;
"For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way, 19 because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened. 22 Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed creatures and creeping things." Ro1:28

What can't coexist with God is stupidity. His tolerance for human self mocking arrogance will soon expire.

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Which God?
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Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)-

So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What creator? I haven't seen any evidence of this, I'll wager a bet that you haven't either. Not dodging the question, I don't know the answer. But if you claim that you know the absolute origin of the universe and also have a relationship with the being that created it (assuming there was one), I'm sorry but that's just absurd.

If the universe must have a creator then the same logic can be applied to your deity, so unless you have the answer to where it came from also, I wouldn't go any further. (Some evidence of its existence in the first place would be nice also.)

Scientists work on questions like the origin of the universe without bias, they only go where there evidence tells them to go. There is no evidence of a divine creator, it is not logical too assume there was, it opens up too many other questions which can never be answered.


 Quoting: LSDreamer


The REAL issue deep down in the gut of all those who deny a Creator is= to believe in a Creator means being accountable to him-
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Bullshit.

The real issue of those who deny a creator is the lack of evidence of a creator.