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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 04/28/2013 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Who is this that is obscuring counsel Quoting: CelestialMaiden By words without knowledge? 3 Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man, And let me question you, and you inform me. 4 Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell [me], if you do know understanding- Job 38:1-4 Cha |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 04/28/2013 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable"- Romans 1:20 |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 04/28/2013 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let a real god come and ask me those questions instead of a faker writing things on parchment he says came from some god. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502595 Answer fail, disqualified. Superiority bluff, ignorance flaunt. Yeah.......people can teach God stuff you know (like they should be asking God: "Where did you happen to be when I Helped you design all living things"? |
LSDreamer User ID: 14896274 Australia 04/28/2013 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let a real god come and ask me those questions instead of a faker writing things on parchment he says came from some god. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502595 Have you taken time to look at this incredible planet and all life on it, including your own lately? The beauty of our planet and our cosmos have nothing to do with scriptural gods and demons. So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from? Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons. Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it. ~ Christopher Hitchens. |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 04/28/2013 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CelestialMaiden Have you taken time to look at this incredible planet and all life on it, including your own lately? The beauty of our planet and our cosmos have nothing to do with scriptural gods and demons. So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from? Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons. Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)- So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33802491 United States 04/28/2013 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032253 The beauty of our planet and our cosmos have nothing to do with scriptural gods and demons. So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from? Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons. Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)- So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE Why does it have to come from a creator? |
LSDreamer User ID: 14896274 Australia 04/28/2013 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032253 The beauty of our planet and our cosmos have nothing to do with scriptural gods and demons. So where does the "beauty of our planet and cosmos" come from? Certainly not from scriptural gods and demons. Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)- So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE What creator? I haven't seen any evidence of this, I'll wager a bet that you haven't either. Not dodging the question, I don't know the answer. But if you claim that you know the absolute origin of the universe and also have a relationship with the being that created it (assuming there was one), I'm sorry but that's just absurd. If the universe must have a creator then the same logic can be applied to your deity, so unless you have the answer to where it came from also, I wouldn't go any further. (Some evidence of its existence in the first place would be nice also.) Scientists work on questions like the origin of the universe without bias, they only go where there evidence tells them to go. There is no evidence of a divine creator, it is not logical too assume there was, it opens up too many other questions which can never be answered. Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it. ~ Christopher Hitchens. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11583924 United States 04/28/2013 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Who is this that is obscuring counsel Quoting: CelestialMaiden By words without knowledge? 3 Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man, And let me question you, and you inform me. 4 Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell [me], if you do know understanding- Job 38:1-4 Isn't this a rather paradoxical question? If God is omniscient there is no need for him/her/it to ask questions of anyone so I see this question as rather silly, and actually I'd suspect a subconscious doubt of the existence of this God within yourself in asking such a question. I don't mean to offend you, OP, just a thought my part. |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 04/28/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Who is this that is obscuring counsel Quoting: CelestialMaiden By words without knowledge? 3 Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man, And let me question you, and you inform me. 4 Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell [me], if you do know understanding- Job 38:1-4 Isn't this a rather paradoxical question? If God is omniscient there is no need for him/her/it to ask questions of anyone so I see this question as rather silly, and actually I'd suspect a subconscious doubt of the existence of this God within yourself in asking such a question. I don't mean to offend you, OP, just a thought my part. No offense taken And, nope, no doubt within myself whatsoever that God exists. IF one were to read the book of Job where that scripture was quoted from....and read the context and entire story, the question is not silly at all. Job was a righteous person alive at that time. At one point though he became overly concerned about his own righteousness....losing sight of the bigger picture. So Jehovah God posed many questions to Job, asking him where he happened to be when The creation of all things began.... he touched on things like the forces of nature, statutes of the heavens, the constellations, the wisdom in creation, the ways of beasts and birds...etc. These were questions only God could answer because he is the Creator of all things. Job's response to God was: "I have come to know that you are able to do all things And there is no idea that is unattainable for you. Therefore I talked but I was not understanding Things too wonderful for me, which I do not know. Hear, please, and I myself shall speak, I shall question you, and you inform me. In hearsay I have heard about you, But now my own eye does see you. That is why I make a retraction, And I do repent in dust and ashes."- Job 42:1-6 How much more does this question posed to Job apply to all today who fail to honor the Creator of all things? Not a silly question at all Life is too complex to question the existence of God |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39001071 Finland 04/28/2013 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only "proof" of god ever existing are these 2000 year old writings. I'm afraid they just don't count anymore. If god really wanted us to believe in him (wait, how can a universal power have a gender?), "he" would talk to us directly. Otherwise, we could as well believe in Zeus or Ukko Ylijumala. Think critically. Don't just swallow all the nonsense you're being spoonfed. |
BlavkRabbit User ID: 38979470 Greece 04/28/2013 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If god exists, he/she wouldn't ask such a lame question like that. If you have any other question that's not a rhetorical one, as an atheist I would love to try and answer it but I believe a god wouldn't ask any questions to look cool and smart, he would just love. Last Edited by BlavkRabbit on 04/28/2013 04:39 PM |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 04/28/2013 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If god exists, he/she wouldn't ask such a lame question like that. If you have any other question that's not a rhetorical one, I would love to try and answer it. Quoting: BlavkRabbit A thorough explanation was just given quoted above as to why God asked Job that question So here is a question Can you explain how all things came into existence? |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 04/28/2013 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only "proof" of god ever existing are these 2000 year old writings. I'm afraid they just don't count anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39001071 If god really wanted us to believe in him (wait, how can a universal power have a gender?), "he" would talk to us directly. Otherwise, we could as well believe in Zeus or Ukko Ylijumala. Think critically. Don't just swallow all the nonsense you're being spoonfed. To look at creation and deny a creator.....is beyond belief |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 04/28/2013 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)- So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE What creator? I haven't seen any evidence of this, I'll wager a bet that you haven't either. Not dodging the question, I don't know the answer. But if you claim that you know the absolute origin of the universe and also have a relationship with the being that created it (assuming there was one), I'm sorry but that's just absurd. If the universe must have a creator then the same logic can be applied to your deity, so unless you have the answer to where it came from also, I wouldn't go any further. (Some evidence of its existence in the first place would be nice also.) Scientists work on questions like the origin of the universe without bias, they only go where there evidence tells them to go. There is no evidence of a divine creator, it is not logical too assume there was, it opens up too many other questions which can never be answered. The REAL issue deep down in the gut of all those who deny a Creator is= to believe in a Creator means being accountable to him- |
BlavkRabbit User ID: 38979470 Greece 04/28/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If god exists, he/she wouldn't ask such a lame question like that. If you have any other question that's not a rhetorical one, I would love to try and answer it. Quoting: BlavkRabbit A thorough explanation was just given quoted above as to why God asked Job that question So here is a question Can you explain how all things came into existence? Simple answer, no. And there is a great possibility we never will. But that does not mean the cosmos was created by a supreme being. |
DGN User ID: 34798113 United States 04/28/2013 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If god exists, he/she wouldn't ask such a lame question like that. If you have any other question that's not a rhetorical one, I would love to try and answer it. Quoting: BlavkRabbit A thorough explanation was just given quoted above as to why God asked Job that question So here is a question Can you explain how all things came into existence? Simple answer, no. And there is a great possibility we never will. But that does not mean the cosmos was created by a supreme being. Right, the laws of physics do. |
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DGN User ID: 34798113 United States 04/28/2013 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would tell God (any God) to go away and don't come back. (not that he will turn up in the first place), so moot point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34239030 Like this? "And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and a great earthquake occurred; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the entire moon became as blood, 13 and the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as when a fig tree shaken by a high wind casts its unripe figs. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and [every] island were removed from their places. 15 And the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and [every] free person hid themselves in the caves and in the rock-masses of the mountains. 16 And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rock-masses: “Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17 because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” Rv6:12 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39033610 United States 04/28/2013 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This whole thread is the OP using his own ignorance as proof that he knows how the universe exists. Your ignorance sir is not a compelling argument. Besides, everyone knows that the great dung beetle in the sky is the one pushing the sun around. Explain how the sun moves through the sky without the DUNG BEETLE GOD? |
Interested Reader 1 User ID: 39025310 United States 04/28/2013 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only would there never be a question or thought of evolution, there would not be all the fractions of christianity we see today. Genesis 2:3 " Then God (Jehovah) blessed the seventh day and SANCTIFIED it, because in it He rested from all his work which God had created and made." ( emphasis mine, ofcourse.) Interested Reader 1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38962239 Mexico 04/28/2013 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let a real god come and ask me those questions instead of a faker writing things on parchment he says came from some god. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502595 Answer fail, disqualified. Superiority bluff, ignorance flaunt. Yeah.......people can teach God stuff you know Yet you deign to put yourself into the position of God. You are not. |
DGN User ID: 34798113 United States 04/29/2013 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why can't science and God/universal force/etc coexist together? Why does it always have to be one OR the other? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12724183 They coexist perfectly together. Science is man's research into the magnificent things of God; "For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way, 19 because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened. 22 Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed creatures and creeping things." Ro1:28 What can't coexist with God is stupidity. His tolerance for human self mocking arrogance will soon expire. Last Edited by DGN on 04/29/2013 01:34 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33802491 United States 04/29/2013 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awe...LSDreamer....(its been awhile!)- So if not from our Creator then.....WHERE What creator? I haven't seen any evidence of this, I'll wager a bet that you haven't either. Not dodging the question, I don't know the answer. But if you claim that you know the absolute origin of the universe and also have a relationship with the being that created it (assuming there was one), I'm sorry but that's just absurd. If the universe must have a creator then the same logic can be applied to your deity, so unless you have the answer to where it came from also, I wouldn't go any further. (Some evidence of its existence in the first place would be nice also.) Scientists work on questions like the origin of the universe without bias, they only go where there evidence tells them to go. There is no evidence of a divine creator, it is not logical too assume there was, it opens up too many other questions which can never be answered. The REAL issue deep down in the gut of all those who deny a Creator is= to believe in a Creator means being accountable to him- Bullshit. The real issue of those who deny a creator is the lack of evidence of a creator. |