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China warns Philippines to immediately withdraw from disputed islands

 
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04/28/2013 01:31 AM
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Just noting the above. China would be very hard pressed to take harsh measures against the Philippines.
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Yep, it's pretty iron clad and has been used by us to force them to help in the war on terror recently even tho it was unpopular with their people. If we go back on it then in the eyes of all other allies our word to defend them is worthless.
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04/28/2013 01:32 AM
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Seriously? The US Got its land threw purchases and treaties.
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Let's ask the Indians?
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Sure, when China un-invades Tibet and Turkestan, we'll talk.
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04/28/2013 01:45 AM
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Seriously? The US Got its land threw purchases and treaties.
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Let's ask the Indians?
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Sure, when China un-invades Tibet and Turkestan, we'll talk.
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Lest we forget. There are some differences yet the outcome the same: Native peoples disappear. Even if it is assimilation, the thought never sits well.
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04/28/2013 01:58 AM
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Think it over, do you think any country is afraid of Obama?
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04/28/2013 02:10 AM
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you are exactly correct...i do think the US will kick some ass if China attempts to invade those islands...but who knows these days??
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Not a chance. Chinese spend more to watch Hollywood movies than Philippine's GDP, who gives a flying f what China does to Philippinos. If Philippines pay well pentagon may do a drill or two with them, but sending Americans on American's tax dollar to fight our biggest trade partner for the philippinos? LOL
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Do you really think China sees the US as a trade partner?
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04/28/2013 02:17 AM
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Just noting the above. China would be very hard pressed to take harsh measures against the Philippines.
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Considering the Philippines has a huge gun culture, I doubt China will do anything. It would be a guerrilla war that not even China would be stupid enough to invade.
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Google: Danao guns.
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04/28/2013 02:20 AM
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we will not withdraw even if C-H1NA warns but...

if C-H7N9 attacks - run for your lives PINOYS - lol
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04/28/2013 02:30 AM
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Philippines = USA

Spain sold the Philippines to the US, of course the public didn't get to vote on that they were just sold like some slaves
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04/28/2013 02:37 AM
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China's expanding like a motherfucker.
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Dude, show me a town in the world without a chinese restaurant :)

Show me some consumer products that are not made in China

China has been expanding like a mf for decades now
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04/28/2013 02:38 AM

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With the recent H7N9 virus being utterly deadly news, the empty cities in the Chinese desert and now this. I am starting to think China will screen their population for the virus and ship off those not infected to places farthest away and give them a chance of survival someplace isolated. Just something that clicked in my mind as I was reading the forum today. I am not usually big on conspiracy theories at all.
If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes.
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04/28/2013 02:47 AM
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you are exactly correct...i do think the US will kick some ass if China attempts to invade those islands...but who knows these days??
 Quoting: volvo544


Not a chance. Chinese spend more to watch Hollywood movies than Philippine's GDP, who gives a flying f what China does to Philippinos. If Philippines pay well pentagon may do a drill or two with them, but sending Americans on American's tax dollar to fight our biggest trade partner for the philippinos? LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14443159


This.

Expect rhetoric, but unless this is some kind of ploy to draw in other parties to the region, it will go nowhere.

Mad love for the Philippines, but they probably do not want to get mixed up in the Senkaku/Diayou issue. There is a good chance this mistake would cost them a lot in regional economic support.
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04/28/2013 02:51 AM
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With the recent H7N9 virus being utterly deadly news, the empty cities in the Chinese desert and now this. I am starting to think China will screen their population for the virus and ship off those not infected to places farthest away and give them a chance of survival someplace isolated. Just something that clicked in my mind as I was reading the forum today. I am not usually big on conspiracy theories at all.
 Quoting: Snuffielover


A lot of people claim all kind of ridiculous things about China's ghost malls/cities but they are simply the result of massive amounts of hot money having to be 'invested' somewhere and China's love of infrastructure development as a means towards GDP 'growth'

H7N9 hasn't even made it to Hong Kong yet, or really anywhere in Guangdong(Chinas industrial and trade hub)
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04/28/2013 03:05 AM

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With the recent H7N9 virus being utterly deadly news, the empty cities in the Chinese desert and now this. I am starting to think China will screen their population for the virus and ship off those not infected to places farthest away and give them a chance of survival someplace isolated. Just something that clicked in my mind as I was reading the forum today. I am not usually big on conspiracy theories at all.
 Quoting: Snuffielover


A lot of people claim all kind of ridiculous things about China's ghost malls/cities but they are simply the result of massive amounts of hot money having to be 'invested' somewhere and China's love of infrastructure development as a means towards GDP 'growth'

H7N9 hasn't even made it to Hong Kong yet, or really anywhere in Guangdong(Chinas industrial and trade hub)
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It haven't yet, but it's not a threat to take lightly I think. But thank you for sharing your point of view why those cities and malls were constructed. Always interesting to hear it from the source.
If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes.
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04/28/2013 03:11 AM
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Manila asked the tribunal of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) to order a halt to China’s activities. But the convention did not apply in this case as what the Philippines was actually asking for was a decision on sovereignty, the ministry said.

“China’s refusal to accept the Philippines’ request for arbitration has full grounding in international law,” it said.



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Where's obamas presence in the Pacific NOW!?
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I know right? And we all have GREAT Golf Courses out here in the Pacific!
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04/28/2013 03:11 AM
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The US would definitely benefit if China will engage the Philippines in an all out war. The US will highlight the fact that a first world country and a military power like China bullied a helpless country like the Philippines. War would also mean good economy for the US since China's economy will definitely take a hit, in this aspect China has more to lose in regards to their growing economy versus the US's failing economy.

China will not go to war against the Philippines. Not yet anyway. They will keep on bullying my country but they will not engage us in an all out war, doing that would make them the ultimate bad guy in the international community.

China can easily beat us by sending missiles to Manila and the whole country will readily fall. But doing that will give US the reason to defend Manila and engage China. China knows that the US can still hurt them militarily hence they will not act blindly on this issue.

Too much is at stake for China in this issue, this is not something they will act on by using an all out war against Philippines.
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04/28/2013 03:36 AM
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The US would definitely benefit if China will engage the Philippines in an all out war. The US will highlight the fact that a first world country and a military power like China bullied a helpless country like the Philippines. War would also mean good economy for the US since China's economy will definitely take a hit, in this aspect China has more to lose in regards to their growing economy versus the US's failing economy.

China will not go to war against the Philippines. Not yet anyway. They will keep on bullying my country but they will not engage us in an all out war, doing that would make them the ultimate bad guy in the international community.

China can easily beat us by sending missiles to Manila and the whole country will readily fall. But doing that will give US the reason to defend Manila and engage China. China knows that the US can still hurt them militarily hence they will not act blindly on this issue.

Too much is at stake for China in this issue, this is not something they will act on by using an all out war against Philippines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29065309


Never did understand why PI kicked the US Military out in the first place. There are good reasons to have a US presence standing by.
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04/28/2013 03:52 AM
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Just noting the above. China would be very hard pressed to take harsh measures against the Philippines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38992551


Considering the Philippines has a huge gun culture, I doubt China will do anything. It would be a guerrilla war that not even China would be stupid enough to invade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


Guns against warships, air power, nukes eh?
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Just noting the above. China would be very hard pressed to take harsh measures against the Philippines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38992551


Yep, it's pretty iron clad and has been used by us to force them to help in the war on terror recently even tho it was unpopular with their people. If we go back on it then in the eyes of all other allies our word to defend them is worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38991413


Like when the usa egged the kurds on then let sadam savage them?
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04/28/2013 04:01 AM
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THREE THINGS GET BETTER WHEN YOU BEAT ON THEM:

1) DRUMS
2) WIVES
3) CHINESE

- OLD JAPAN PROVERB
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04/28/2013 04:14 AM
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THREE THINGS GET BETTER WHEN YOU BEAT ON THEM:

1) DRUMS
2) WIVES
3) CHINESE

- OLD JAPAN PROVERB
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OMG! lol
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04/28/2013 04:16 AM
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THREE THINGS GET BETTER WHEN YOU BEAT ON THEM:

1) DRUMS
2) WIVES
3) CHINESE

- OLD JAPAN PROVERB
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OMG! lol
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Some women may not like the attitude lol
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04/28/2013 04:21 AM
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Re: China warns Philippines to immediately withdraw from disputed islands
The US would definitely benefit if China will engage the Philippines in an all out war. The US will highlight the fact that a first world country and a military power like China bullied a helpless country like the Philippines. War would also mean good economy for the US since China's economy will definitely take a hit, in this aspect China has more to lose in regards to their growing economy versus the US's failing economy.

China will not go to war against the Philippines. Not yet anyway. They will keep on bullying my country but they will not engage us in an all out war, doing that would make them the ultimate bad guy in the international community.

China can easily beat us by sending missiles to Manila and the whole country will readily fall. But doing that will give US the reason to defend Manila and engage China. China knows that the US can still hurt them militarily hence they will not act blindly on this issue.

Too much is at stake for China in this issue, this is not something they will act on by using an all out war against Philippines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29065309


Never did understand why PI kicked the US Military out in the first place. There are good reasons to have a US presence standing by.
 Quoting: GUAM USA


The US bases in our country wasn't paying their due rent like how they are now paying Japan. The military hardware and technology wasn't also shared to their Philippine military "ally." As a third world "sovereign" country, you can't blame us to at least have a semblance of independence as a matter of national pride and dignity.

There have also been some abuse from the US military bases where locals have been on the receiving end and our country can't do anything about it, we can't even bring your soldiers to court, that was one of the reasons why we had to remove your base in our country.

The US military is still present in the Philippines, there have been numerous ship and submarine visits in our country every year. Just this year, one of your ship actually got stuck in one of our world heritage site and you had to pay us for the damages and salvage your ship piece by piece.

Some of your soldiers are still in Mindanao, the southern part of Philippines. The CIA still has an office in Manila, just like your FBI. Though without a formal base, the US presence in our country is still and will always be here.
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04/28/2013 04:28 AM
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China's expanding like a motherfucker.
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let's burst the balloon

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04/28/2013 04:29 AM
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Think it over, do you think any country is afraid of Obama?
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1rof1
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I'm pretty sure Wales is.
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04/28/2013 04:35 AM
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Re: China warns Philippines to immediately withdraw from disputed islands
The US would definitely benefit if China will engage the Philippines in an all out war. The US will highlight the fact that a first world country and a military power like China bullied a helpless country like the Philippines. War would also mean good economy for the US since China's economy will definitely take a hit, in this aspect China has more to lose in regards to their growing economy versus the US's failing economy.

China will not go to war against the Philippines. Not yet anyway. They will keep on bullying my country but they will not engage us in an all out war, doing that would make them the ultimate bad guy in the international community.

China can easily beat us by sending missiles to Manila and the whole country will readily fall. But doing that will give US the reason to defend Manila and engage China. China knows that the US can still hurt them militarily hence they will not act blindly on this issue.

Too much is at stake for China in this issue, this is not something they will act on by using an all out war against Philippines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29065309


Never did understand why PI kicked the US Military out in the first place. There are good reasons to have a US presence standing by.
 Quoting: GUAM USA


The US bases in our country wasn't paying their due rent like how they are now paying Japan. The military hardware and technology wasn't also shared to their Philippine military "ally." As a third world "sovereign" country, you can't blame us to at least have a semblance of independence as a matter of national pride and dignity.

There have also been some abuse from the US military bases where locals have been on the receiving end and our country can't do anything about it, we can't even bring your soldiers to court, that was one of the reasons why we had to remove your base in our country.

The US military is still present in the Philippines, there have been numerous ship and submarine visits in our country every year. Just this year, one of your ship actually got stuck in one of our world heritage site and you had to pay us for the damages and salvage your ship piece by piece.

Some of your soldiers are still in Mindanao, the southern part of Philippines. The CIA still has an office in Manila, just like your FBI. Though without a formal base, the US presence in our country is still and will always be here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29065309


Can't argue with that. I certainly remember the pride back in 1991/1992. Same as the Island of Palau back in 1994/1995. I was on hand during both celebrations.

I suppose the timing was just terrible as the pullout (Angeles City) came at the same time Mt. Pinatubo blew it's top. That certainly moved the process along quickly.

And yes, I am fully aware of the US Military presence there. Just nothing like the 'ole days.
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Just noting the above. China would be very hard pressed to take harsh measures against the Philippines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38992551


Considering the Philippines has a huge gun culture, I doubt China will do anything. It would be a guerrilla war that not even China would be stupid enough to invade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


They put up a decent fight against US.
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04/28/2013 05:33 AM
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THREE THINGS GET BETTER WHEN YOU BEAT ON THEM:

1) DRUMS
2) WIVES
3) CHINESE

- OLD JAPAN PROVERB
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39000399


old Chinese proverb:

One way or the other Japan will pay.

Time is running out for you AC
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In 1908 Manuel Arellano Remondo, in General Geography of the Philippine Islands, wrote: “The population decreased due to the wars, in the five-year period from 1895 to 1900, since, at the start of the first insurrection, the population was estimated at 9,000,000, and at present (1908), the inhabitants of the Archipelago do not exceed 8,000,000 in number.”[87] In light of the massive casualties suffered by the civilian population, Filipino historian E. San Juan, Jr., alleges that 1.4 million Filipinos died during the war and that constitutes an act of genocide on the part of the United States.[88]
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04/28/2013 05:44 AM
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somebody just nuke those tiny disputed islands everybody wins
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04/28/2013 05:59 AM
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somebody just nuke those tiny disputed islands everybody wins
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