USDA: WE DON'T CHECK IMMIGRATION STATUS FOR FOOD STAMPS | |
Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States 04/28/2013 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But they check your income, expenses, living situation and how many in your household and confirm them. You acutely get expedited to the top of the line is you are illegal. Expedited (emergency) SNAP food stamps: You can get expedited SNAP food stamps if: • your household's total monthly income is less than $150, and cash and savings are no more than $100 • or your household's total monthly income, cash, and savings combined are less than your monthly housing costs (rent or mortgage, plus utilities) • or your household is a migrant worker or seasonal farm worker household with $100 or less in cash and savings [link to massresources.org] I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24071670 Bulgaria 04/28/2013 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder when they will do it in Bulgaria too! It is a bad idea people die from hunger or commit suicide. No matter if they are illegal immigrants in USA or live in their own impoverished country. Something must be done in the whole world ASAP or it will break apart very soon. It is not only US matter, even less immigration matter. Pls Americans understand you don't live on isolated island! Being the most advanced country in this damned world you also bear certain responsibility! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22488043 United States 04/28/2013 03:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wtf.... Even the American citizens have to prove identity and show a ss card. This crap is ridiculous. This country cant take care of its own... takes takes takes... and yet we take care of everyone who comes from the south. Which... I dont expect a free ride... however... I expect the money they take to at least go to people who are here legally. Or back to myself... I could sure the fuck use it about now. |
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IRQ_1 User ID: 30262933 United States 04/28/2013 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something as "low level" as this required a FOIA request? Last Edited by IRQ_1 on 04/28/2013 05:14 AM Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
geminilion User ID: 12895036 United States 04/28/2013 05:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah but be a citizen and you have to jump through hoops only to be denied. Then you have to wait months for a fair hearing and then maybe you'll be determined eligible because one of the things they do down at the D.S.S. office is to try to make people give up by having them run around and all kinds of crap. What part of illegal don't they get? Why should America's tax paying citizens have to pay for food and benefits for illegals and people who have never invested anything in this country. I honestly don't want to see anyone go hungry so my idea is to give them a meal and a take away and then deport them. Let them go through the trouble of entering the country legally. ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
geminilion User ID: 12895036 United States 04/28/2013 05:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But they check your income, expenses, living situation and how many in your household and confirm them. Quoting: Chrit You acutely get expedited to the top of the line is you are illegal. Expedited (emergency) SNAP food stamps: You can get expedited SNAP food stamps if: • your household's total monthly income is less than $150, and cash and savings are no more than $100 • or your household's total monthly income, cash, and savings combined are less than your monthly housing costs (rent or mortgage, plus utilities) • or your household is a migrant worker or seasonal farm worker household with $100 or less in cash and savings [link to massresources.org] So then they would have to tell the caseworker they don't have documents because they are illegal. Then I guess the caseworker is supposed to turn a blind eye even though she knows the law is being broken. ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39003130 Germany 04/28/2013 06:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah but be a citizen and you have to jump through hoops only to be denied. Then you have to wait months for a fair hearing and then maybe you'll be determined eligible because one of the things they do down at the D.S.S. office is to try to make people give up by having them run around and all kinds of crap. Quoting: geminilion What part of illegal don't they get? Why should America's tax paying citizens have to pay for food and benefits for illegals and people who have never invested anything in this country. because it's the land of the free. This is right in the spirit of the founding fathers. A applause those measures. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38977602 United States 04/28/2013 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work for NY Medicaid and Medicare. Welfare, in any form, is a veneer. Less than ten cents on the dollar goes where it is supposed to go. The rest literally vanishes. It is laundered internationally. US government has no internal controls. US government has no functioning system of accountability. Feds or state contract out to private companies to do this work for them.(i.e. Blackwater) They give these "providers" a blank check. I have personally gone to the NY Inspector General and also the head of Medicaid fraud in NY and given them copies of the books. I was ignored. Bottom line: Welfare is a real money maker for organized crime and it endangers our society. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38977602 United States 04/28/2013 06:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But they check your income, expenses, living situation and how many in your household and confirm them. Quoting: Chrit You acutely get expedited to the top of the line is you are illegal. Expedited (emergency) SNAP food stamps: You can get expedited SNAP food stamps if: • your household's total monthly income is less than $150, and cash and savings are no more than $100 • or your household's total monthly income, cash, and savings combined are less than your monthly housing costs (rent or mortgage, plus utilities) • or your household is a migrant worker or seasonal farm worker household with $100 or less in cash and savings [link to massresources.org] This is false. Many "members" , i.e. accounts, are non-existant. Money goes into these accounts only to vanish. I have access to the books. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38977602 United States 04/28/2013 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Each recipient i.e. member is actually an account and the money flows into these accounts. Many members don't exist! There are more people in welfare in NY than actually exist. The money that flows into these programs flows quietly back out to foreign shores. This is why we don't see the fraud. In this case, the "excess funds" are flowing down to Mexico. The fraud is being perpetrated by the U.S. government. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38977602 United States 04/28/2013 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder when they will do it in Bulgaria too! It is a bad idea people die from hunger or commit suicide. No matter if they are illegal immigrants in USA or live in their own impoverished country. Something must be done in the whole world ASAP or it will break apart very soon. It is not only US matter, even less immigration matter. Pls Americans understand you don't live on isolated island! Being the most advanced country in this damned world you also bear certain responsibility! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24071670 when you take this type of money you are fueling organized crime. It is also stolen money. You are actually stealing money from working people. This makes you a thief. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38977602 United States 04/28/2013 07:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, CMS, Washington, D.C. [link to www.cms.gov] |
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Vision Thing User ID: 36175629 United States 04/28/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think if you're a hard working mexican chap in the US, well you dearly earned your meals! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39003130 working people don't qualify..... No, it's the other way around, you have to be working, unless you are a child. In Washington here if you're working less than 20 hours a week you have to attend a work readiness program and put in the hours that way. They base your eligibility on how high your housing cost is compared to your income. Believe me in the last 30 years the rent keeps going up and the inflation-corrected wages keep going down. When I made the decision at age 49 to apply for food stamps to get my own money back that they were taking in FICA taxes from my measly checks, it was because I was seeing signs in Spanish everywhere saying how they didn't take immigration status into account for food stamps. It really pissed me off that they would give them to illegals. In Washington you have a Federal portion of the food stamp money and a State portion. Immigration status counts for the Federal portion but not for the Washington state portion. Also children of illegal immigrants are eligible if they were born in the US. Someone mentioned the expedited application for farm workers. One thing to remember is that there is a legal program for migrant seasonal farm workers. Many come in legally under a permit system. Also only 12% of illegal aliens work in agriculture. In many ways the food stamp system is a subsidy for employers. They can pay their workers less knowing they won't go hungry. Actually the food stamp system is a subsidy for the entire economy. If you are on them it means that your income only covers rent, bills and food. Having food stamps means that you have some small amount left to spend on things other than food, shelter and utilities. Without food stamps every other aspect of the economy would be affected. Many working people would have nothing left over to spend anywhere but at the grocery store. And obviously the grocery stores and food industry up the chain are the biggest beneficiaries of all of the food stamp program. Many workers would find themselves out of a job overnight if the food stamp program was cut off. Every dollar paid in wages in the USA is taxed at 15% through FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare). You don't see it because your employer "contributes" half, but of course that half is still a tax on your wages and wouldn't be paid if you weren't the one working and earning the money. So if you are making 10.00 an hour then 1.50 is being paid out for every 10.00 of your gross wage. When you are making 10.00 an hour and paying rent and bills, 15% of your money is ALL your money - everything that you would have had left for shoes, clothes, a haircut, vitamins, everything. They know that and they know they can't get away with taxing the working poor that way. So they make you grovel and jump through hoops and take the social stigma to GET YOUR OWN MONEY BACK so you can EAT. See my thread: Thread: The myth that the working poor pay no taxes Last Edited by Vision Thing on 04/28/2013 09:24 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30879308 United States 04/28/2013 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Food stamps for anyone living in housing should be: 25 lb of flour 10 lb of sugar 20 lob of dried beans 20 lb of rice 4 lb of butter 5 lb of cheese etc. States should buy in bulk from the manufacturer and cut the retailer out and no one has to go hungry. A distribution center in every county. |
Vision Thing User ID: 36175629 United States 04/28/2013 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Food stamps for anyone living in housing should be: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30879308 25 lb of flour 10 lb of sugar 20 lob of dried beans 20 lb of rice 4 lb of butter 5 lb of cheese etc. States should buy in bulk from the manufacturer and cut the retailer out and no one has to go hungry. A distribution center in every county. Kind of like what they gave the Indians on the reservations. Would you like a side of diabetes with your fry bread? |
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