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Alleged leaked pic of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital. Doppelganger? Dummy or dead body??? (UPDATED)

 
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Re: Alleged leaked pic of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital. Doppelganger? Dummy or dead body??? (UPDATED)
Leaked picture with no conformation.

Earlobes don't match and the person appears to have suffered head trauma and is possibly dead.

Probably a random photo of a random dead guy.
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A "random dead guy" that TOTALLY looks like the 2nd suspect, except by the ear lobe, what could be explained by skull reconstruction with someone else's tissue...

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Re: Alleged leaked pic of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital. Doppelganger? Dummy or dead body??? (UPDATED)
OMG here we go AGAIN!

OP:
1. That pic is old and has been in MSM
2. THAT IS him
3. Those ARENT EARPLUGS! For the UMTEENTH TIME....

ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead.

SHIT! Im so sick of you wackos and you're supposed medical knowledge!



OMG "his earlobes don't match?"
SERIOUSLY?
Is everyone a moron?
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Re: Alleged leaked pic of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital. Doppelganger? Dummy or dead body??? (UPDATED)
Looks like a post mortem pic of the older brother.
I'm like, WTF?

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Re: Alleged leaked pic of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital. Doppelganger? Dummy or dead body??? (UPDATED)
the ears are different, Not the same person.
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I would say that the dead guy looks more like the brother -
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Re: Alleged leaked pic of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital. Doppelganger? Dummy or dead body??? (UPDATED)
There was a thread here on GLP right after his capture that had a video or picture, I can't remember which, which showed Tsarnaev on the ground with a guy attending to him. The guy had an ATF Police jacket on. The caption of the photo said that Tsarnaev was being fitted for an oxygen mask, but it looked to me like he was being given a tracheotomy. I replied in that post that this is what it looked like to me. This was before it came out that he had lost his voice box.

I have to believe that what was posted was the ATF guy cutting his voicebox out of him.

This GLP Thread is missing or I can't find it.

machobird
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 Quoting: Ford Prefect


They would have to cut alot more to prevent him from typing, writing, etc. The pic with the earplug is a dead person. Not sure if him or look alike. The hair looks wrong.
 Quoting: Janine69


The only witnesses of the "writing interrogatory", are the MOSSAD doctors of the hospital and the FBI. As far as I'm concerned, they could have interrogated a monkey and we will ever know.


How can someone with a bullet hole in his throat use an oxygen mask? He would choke on his own blood.

And don't fool yourself, because nobody will ever see that kid alive again. They say they put him in an isolated cell, because they are setting up his "suicide" to be reported by the MSM anytime soon, now that they have his conveniently "written and signed confession".
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OMG here we go AGAIN!

OP:
1. That pic is old and has been in MSM
2. THAT IS him
3. Those ARENT EARPLUGS! For the UMTEENTH TIME....

ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead.

SHIT! Im so sick of you wackos and you're supposed medical knowledge!



OMG "his earlobes don't match?"
SERIOUSLY?
Is everyone a moron?
 Quoting: ResistancePress


Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu

Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 04/28/2013 06:35 PM
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Do we have any good ear shots of the older brother?
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OMG here we go AGAIN!

OP:
1. That pic is old and has been in MSM
2. THAT IS him
3. Those ARENT EARPLUGS! For the UMTEENTH TIME....

ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead.

SHIT! Im so sick of you wackos and you're supposed medical knowledge!



OMG "his earlobes don't match?"
SERIOUSLY?
Is everyone a moron?
 Quoting: ResistancePress


Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


shill

OP calling someone a shill...that's fucking rich.

OP spreads disinfo all day, everyday.
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Looks more like a pic of the older brother to me.....
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That's what I thought.
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OMG here we go AGAIN!

OP:
1. That pic is old and has been in MSM
2. THAT IS him
3. Those ARENT EARPLUGS! For the UMTEENTH TIME....

ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead.

SHIT! Im so sick of you wackos and you're supposed medical knowledge!



OMG "his earlobes don't match?"
SERIOUSLY?
Is everyone a moron?
 Quoting: ResistancePress


Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


shill

OP calling someone a shill...that's fucking rich.

OP spreads disinfo all day, everyday.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


Says the 24/7 shill with a shill nickname.

Now THAT is fucking richer!

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Do we have any good ear shots of the older brother?
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That's not the older brother. His photo all fucked up like a rag doll is all over the internet.
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Re: Alleged leaked pic of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital. Doppelganger? Dummy or dead body??? (UPDATED)
OMG here we go AGAIN!

OP:
1. That pic is old and has been in MSM
2. THAT IS him
3. Those ARENT EARPLUGS! For the UMTEENTH TIME....

ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead.

SHIT! Im so sick of you wackos and you're supposed medical knowledge!



OMG "his earlobes don't match?"
SERIOUSLY?
Is everyone a moron?
 Quoting: ResistancePress


Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


shill

OP calling someone a shill...that's fucking rich.

OP spreads disinfo all day, everyday.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


Says the 24/7 shill with a shill nickname.

Now THAT is fucking richer!

norespect
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


Shill nickname?

Your antisemitism disgusts me.

Don't be upset because people have realized that you're a nutter off your meds and constantly post bogus crap.
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Looks more like a pic of the older brother to me.....
 Quoting: El_Duderino


That's what I thought as well. Looks nothing like the younger brother.
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There was a thread here on GLP right after his capture that had a video or picture, I can't remember which, which showed Tsarnaev on the ground with a guy attending to him. The guy had an ATF Police jacket on. The caption of the photo said that Tsarnaev was being fitted for an oxygen mask, but it looked to me like he was being given a tracheotomy. I replied in that post that this is what it looked like to me. This was before it came out that he had lost his voice box.

I have to believe that what was posted was the ATF guy cutting his voicebox out of him.

This GLP Thread is missing or I can't find it.

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 Quoting: Ford Prefect


The ATF guy looks like he is intubating him. Either a King Airway, Combi-Tube or a standard ET tube, but I can't tell which.
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An image of King Airways for comparison:

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Re: Alleged leaked pic of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital. Doppelganger? Dummy or dead body??? (UPDATED)
I am going to side with the ones who think its the older brother. His adams apple hairline, and profile, all seem to match better. But the biggest clue is the back of his neck seems the line there is where they stopped the makeup. Perhaps for a funeral or something. And the makeup line seems to be consistent with the red mark all over him. Did he actually set his vest off? Seems to me he did with all the raspberry marks around his neckline. But hey if he rigged it on a bullet proof vest would explain it better.
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Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


shill

OP calling someone a shill...that's fucking rich.

OP spreads disinfo all day, everyday.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


Says the 24/7 shill with a shill nickname.

Now THAT is fucking richer!

norespect
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


Shill nickname?

Your antisemitism disgusts me.

Don't be upset because people have realized that you're a nutter off your meds and constantly post bogus crap.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


Dude don't be ridiculous! Do you REALLY think nobody ever noticed the pun with the word "shill" in your nickname??

Get a grip douchebag!

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OMG here we go AGAIN!

OP:
1. That pic is old and has been in MSM
2. THAT IS him
3. Those ARENT EARPLUGS! For the UMTEENTH TIME....

ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead.

SHIT! Im so sick of you wackos and you're supposed medical knowledge!



OMG "his earlobes don't match?"
SERIOUSLY?
Is everyone a moron?
 Quoting: ResistancePress


Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill? Pretty weak.
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OMG here we go AGAIN!

OP:
1. That pic is old and has been in MSM
2. THAT IS him
3. Those ARENT EARPLUGS! For the UMTEENTH TIME....

ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead.

SHIT! Im so sick of you wackos and you're supposed medical knowledge!



OMG "his earlobes don't match?"
SERIOUSLY?
Is everyone a moron?
 Quoting: ResistancePress


Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill? Pretty weak.
 Quoting: ~Sonic Doom


"So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
Yadayadayada..."

Shills sound like a fucking broken record with this same old tiresome cliche.

Shills -------> dogpile flush

Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 04/28/2013 08:37 PM
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OMG here we go AGAIN!

OP:
1. That pic is old and has been in MSM
2. THAT IS him
3. Those ARENT EARPLUGS! For the UMTEENTH TIME....

ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead.

SHIT! Im so sick of you wackos and you're supposed medical knowledge!



OMG "his earlobes don't match?"
SERIOUSLY?
Is everyone a moron?
 Quoting: ResistancePress


Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill? Pretty weak.
 Quoting: ~Sonic Doom


"So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
Yadayadayada..."

Shills sound like a fucking broken record with this same old tiresome cliche.

Shills -------> dogpile flush
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


Just wonderng, The above poster (resistance press) you called a shill sounded like he or she has experience in the medical field.
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On April 15th, 2013, Tammy was clean-shaven and Djoker had a little chin beard.

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Yo shill, lay off the kool aid because that picture was twitted just one week, plus unless you're fucking blind the ear lobe DOES NOT match and the photo is not good enough to claim that the plug is "just cotton".

Your medical knowledge is just like my knowledge of rocket engineering, so don't play the smartass and stfu
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill? Pretty weak.
 Quoting: ~Sonic Doom


"So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
Yadayadayada..."

Shills sound like a fucking broken record with this same old tiresome cliche.

Shills -------> dogpile flush
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


Just wonderng, The above poster (resistance press) you called a shill sounded like he or she has experience in the medical field.
 Quoting: ~Sonic Doom


So in your opinion, because she/he said the earplug is "just a cotton" then it suddenly makes her/him a plastic/neurosurgeon/coroner??

cruise

Too bad I've worked in hospitals 5 years, although I don't have a degree in Medicine, and shills will have a hard time if they get into this area.
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So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill? Pretty weak.
 Quoting: ~Sonic Doom


"So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
Yadayadayada..."

Shills sound like a fucking broken record with this same old tiresome cliche.

Shills -------> dogpile flush
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


Just wonderng, The above poster (resistance press) you called a shill sounded like he or she has experience in the medical field.
 Quoting: ~Sonic Doom


So in your opinion, because she/he said the earplug is "just a cotton" then it suddenly makes her/him a plastic/neurosurgeon/coroner??

cruise

Too bad I've worked in hospitals 5 years, although I don't have a degree in Medicine, and shills will have a hard time if they get into this area.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect




"ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead."

That was what resist said in the above quote which was alot more than cotton in his ear. If you have worked in hospitals You should know why they use cotton in the ears and why there is a surgical scar.
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The "skin" is different color along the neck below the ear.

Looks like it's a MASK.
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"So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
So if someone disagrees with you they are a shill?
Yadayadayada..."

Shills sound like a fucking broken record with this same old tiresome cliche.

Shills -------> dogpile flush
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


Just wonderng, The above poster (resistance press) you called a shill sounded like he or she has experience in the medical field.
 Quoting: ~Sonic Doom


So in your opinion, because she/he said the earplug is "just a cotton" then it suddenly makes her/him a plastic/neurosurgeon/coroner??

cruise

Too bad I've worked in hospitals 5 years, although I don't have a degree in Medicine, and shills will have a hard time if they get into this area.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect




"ITS COTTON! Do you not see the nice giant surgical scar by his ear? It's to soak up fluid. HE IS NOT dead."

That was what resist said in the above quote which was alot more than cotton in his ear. If you have worked in hospitals You should know why they use cotton in the ears and why there is a surgical scar.
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It's IMPOSSIBLE to affirm that it's a cotton instead of a medical earplug, because the picture's resolution is not good. And even if that's actually a cotton tampon, it doesn't invalidate the argument of the brain matter leakage.

Arguing and disagreeing is ONE thing, being stupid and naive is ANOTHER thing.
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The "skin" is different color along the neck below the ear.

Looks like it's a MASK.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Perhaps they cut his face off and implanted in someone else's skull, what also would explain the different ear.

Remember the movie "Face Off" with Nicolas Cage and John Faggolta??
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The "skin" is different color along the neck below the ear.

Looks like it's a MASK.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Perhaps they cut his face off and implanted in someone else's skull, what also would explain the different ear.

Remember the movie "Face Off" with Nicolas Cage and John Faggolta??
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Didn't watch it, but yeah.
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I haven't seen any picture OR video of the guy in the past 7 days
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That's because there are none, EXCEPT this leaked one that:

1. Looks like a dead body.
2. Looks like him but the ear lobe doesn't mach.
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The ear lobe does appear match, look at the contours of the ear. You are trying to compare a Full Face view to a Profile view.

That's almost laughable. Ear contours are very telling, and while Dzhokhar's ear displays a different shape in Profile than it does in Full Face, the bigger problem you have is simply your Full Face picture doesn't display his ENTIRE EAR.

Seriously, c'mon!

Looking at the tight contour (fold or Helix) of his ear there is a valid comparison between both photos. Enough to suggest you aren't focusing on the right part of the ear or need better pictures.

At this point, I would recommend you get a better control picture(s) to make your argument.
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and who is the source of this photo? it could be anyone. sunil maybe?
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I just met a couple from Boston yesterday and the mentioned that he was in a Federal prison about 20 minutes from where they lived.
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or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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