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Pathaka User ID: 19009045 Finland 04/29/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On GLP I often read threads with religious subjects and discussions about Jesus, Satan, Good and Evil. ... Can someone explain why the Americans like this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38998804 My take: - fairly low level of education and every American centric, pseudo-patriotic, religion-leaning and distorted schooling/media (most Americans will never understand this, unless they live a minimum of 10 years abroad, not reading/watching US mass media) - lots of fear, indoctrination and control elements from school, government and the church(es) using religion as a tool of control for obedience, patriotism, moral excuse and cutting through logic and common sense - fluoridation, overall intellectual stupidity, their inability on the average to think for themselves (except for the elites and maybe 20-30% of the population in different social classes in general) To me the more interesting question is that why are not ALL Americans like this? Why can some see through the control element and not fall for it? Clearly it's not genetic. What is it then? What helps some of them to resist and not fall for the brainwash? Pathaka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39052391 United Kingdom 04/29/2013 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On GLP I often read threads with religious subjects and discussions about Jesus, Satan, Good and Evil. I do not know this from Europeans but U.S. ppl are addicted to this. This reminds me sometimes of Medival times and sometimes of Muzzimans. Can someone explain why the Americans like this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38998804 It's the way America was set up... a good example of this is the founder of the Province of Pennsylvania, William Penn left Sussex for the New World with hundreds of Sussex Quakers. So Sussex lost the bulk of a religious sect which America gained.. and when you have founding notions that are based on certain religious ideals it is going to have a impact for a long time. Here is a scary thought, Britans religious dissenters went one direction (America) and it's political dissenters the other direction (Australia) what would have happened if both groups had met on the other side of the world.. this, essentially, i think they left these shores for religious freedom not sure about australian exports in that way really, just considered them mostly as the poor unfortunates. funny though, i dont consider the bedrock of australian imported ancestry to be political stalwarts another curious thing i had not fully considered - that the uk really is devoid now of religion, in part at least due to the fleeing of the persecuted ...along with much of northern europe the american obsession with god-fearing really does seem bizarre and an anachronism and in all honestly, you cant say that a religious nation is more prone to outbreaks of peace and tolerance than a secular one Ah, the sweepings from under the carpet :) The largest single mass deportation in Britains history for a common crime where Swing Rioters, these where protesters fighting for the rights of the common man to be free from oppression in 1820.. some 20% of the founding families of Van Damiens Land where Swing Rioters. We may have deported our unfortunates, but they also sought to deport all our political dissenters... Is it a wonder Australia is the way it is ;) |
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acegotflows User ID: 38246327 United States 04/29/2013 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because all three take away from personal responsibility. Quoting: acegotflows you aren't good enough so you need religion. Can't think for yourself so here's some rules that are old but supposedly across the board here have some Jesus since you'll never EVER be good enough to get to heaven on your own hey have some Satan because if you ever need something to blame your faults and bad decisions on THERE HE IS... actually no,Jesus is a guide if that is what you believe ok. "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
acegotflows User ID: 38246327 United States 04/29/2013 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On GLP I often read threads with religious subjects and discussions about Jesus, Satan, Good and Evil. ... Can someone explain why the Americans like this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38998804 My take: - fairly low level of education and every American centric, pseudo-patriotic, religion-leaning and distorted schooling/media (most Americans will never understand this, unless they live a minimum of 10 years abroad, not reading/watching US mass media) - lots of fear, indoctrination and control elements from school, government and the church(es) using religion as a tool of control for obedience, patriotism, moral excuse and cutting through logic and common sense - fluoridation, overall intellectual stupidity, their inability on the average to think for themselves (except for the elites and maybe 20-30% of the population in different social classes in general) To me the more interesting question is that why are not ALL Americans like this? because individual curiosity is stronger than mass hypnosis Why can some see through the control element and not fall for it? because some still have their sense of self preserved. some of us realize and try to unlearn the crap and put what is beneficial in. As long as we have a world full of ego, materialism and individual accomplishment at the EXPENSE OF others, this is what we have. Unless a quantum leap happens or a huge catastrophe Clearly it's not genetic. What is it then? Some of it is genetic, memory that is. Most of it has to do with trauma based mind control and lies done with magic spells. What helps some of them to resist and not fall for the brainwash? will power, detox, logic, meditation and honestly, especially to self "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38307711 United States 04/29/2013 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Most Americans are children of christian mental abuse. They come from homes where their mommy or daddy have beaten this medieval nonsense into their heads from very early age. Reasoning with them, showing them the fallacies and all the filth in the bible, is almost always futile - because its a life long hobby and how they integrate and relate with their community. The only luxury I allow myself when one of them tries to convert me to worshiping yahweh the celestial psychopath is - I ridicule their beliefs mercilessly. It serves as both deterrent of future attempts and possibly a seed that might sprout in the distant future. |
Bluebird User ID: 27748381 United States 04/29/2013 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, some 85% of americans indentify themselves as christian as one kind or other. Them not really comprehending christian ideals is another matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18199639 In the end it's all about gullibility and early childhood indoctrination coupled with an impotent fear of death. Another day... Another Eurotard. Imagine you tools had stayed in Europe, you'd actually get a decent education. But sure, just close your eyes and drink the koolaid you tool. Speaking of tools, you really do just make up any shit you want and try to pretend it's real doncha? I have come to believe that you eurotards know so little about this country that's it's pathertic and you are totally ignorant and should just STFU! You do know we have MORE FOREIGN STUDENTS than any other country, don't you? Name me one more country that has more than this one. And since you can't just stop it with your lying. Last count about 700,000. [link to www.brookings.edu] Meanwhile the EU is TRYING to attract more foreign students and has only about 200,000. [link to europa.eu] So where's the education now, skippy? Last Edited by Bluebird on 04/29/2013 11:42 AM One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19881743 Canada 04/29/2013 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On GLP I often read threads with religious subjects and discussions about Jesus, Satan, Good and Evil. I do not know this from Europeans but U.S. ppl are addicted to this. This reminds me sometimes of Medival times and sometimes of Muzzimans. Can someone explain why the Americans like this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38998804 When America was mostly Christian, they where doing quite well. Freedom is a gift from God, and a Christian experience. People came to the US for opportunity, mostly from Europe, which should say allot about 'why' there is no religious discussion there. However today's generation of Americans never knew the America of their own forefathers, and I would even say some despise and deny the values that founded the country. There is a remnant within the US that remembers it's origins, thank God, otherwise who knows what the 'history' of the US will become. |
Bluebird User ID: 27748381 United States 04/29/2013 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On GLP I often read threads with religious subjects and discussions about Jesus, Satan, Good and Evil. ... Can someone explain why the Americans like this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38998804 My take: - fairly low level of education and every American centric, pseudo-patriotic, religion-leaning and distorted schooling/media (most Americans will never understand this, unless they live a minimum of 10 years abroad, not reading/watching US mass media) - lots of fear, indoctrination and control elements from school, government and the church(es) using religion as a tool of control for obedience, patriotism, moral excuse and cutting through logic and common sense - fluoridation, overall intellectual stupidity, their inability on the average to think for themselves (except for the elites and maybe 20-30% of the population in different social classes in general) To me the more interesting question is that why are not ALL Americans like this? Why can some see through the control element and not fall for it? Clearly it's not genetic. What is it then? What helps some of them to resist and not fall for the brainwash? See my above post with links about the 700,000 foreign students who come to this country for an education and the EU desperately trying to attract some with only 200,000 So I'd have to say the facts do NOT ear our your strawman idiocy. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
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Bluebird User ID: 27748381 United States 04/29/2013 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do realize that a large number of posters here are attracted by the name godlikeproductions and mistake this for a religious forum of some sort or other. Only about 20% of Americans actually attend church on any given week. We are not nearly as religious as I wish we were. Last Edited by Bluebird on 04/29/2013 11:51 AM One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
acegotflows User ID: 38246327 United States 04/29/2013 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do realize that a large number of posters here are attracted by the name godlikeproductions and mistake this for a religious forum of some sort or other. Quoting: Bluebird Only about 20% of Americans actually attend church on any given week. We are not nearly as religious as I wish we were. so you wish religion over conscious or spiritual? Just asking for clarification "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10858311 United States 04/29/2013 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38307711 Most Americans are children of christian mental abuse. They come from homes where their mommy or daddy have beaten this medieval nonsense into their heads from very early age. Reasoning with them, showing them the fallacies and all the filth in the bible, is almost always futile - because its a life long hobby and how they integrate and relate with their community. The only luxury I allow myself when one of them tries to convert me to worshiping yahweh the celestial psychopath is - I ridicule their beliefs mercilessly. It serves as both deterrent of future attempts and possibly a seed that might sprout in the distant future. But how can you possibly know this is the case? Or do you somehow believe you have access to reliable statistics or honest journalism or something? Granted, this must be the idea of Americans -in the world's mind- that's desired by TPTB, since it's an idea uniformly held by those who believe themselves to be "educated". But just because certain persons are in a position to float any meme that they care to float, doesn't indicate it's the truth, does it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10858311 United States 04/29/2013 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On GLP I often read threads with religious subjects and discussions about Jesus, Satan, Good and Evil. ... Can someone explain why the Americans like this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38998804 My take: - fairly low level of education and every American centric, pseudo-patriotic, religion-leaning and distorted schooling/media (most Americans will never understand this, unless they live a minimum of 10 years abroad, not reading/watching US mass media) - lots of fear, indoctrination and control elements from school, government and the church(es) using religion as a tool of control for obedience, patriotism, moral excuse and cutting through logic and common sense - fluoridation, overall intellectual stupidity, their inability on the average to think for themselves (except for the elites and maybe 20-30% of the population in different social classes in general) To me the more interesting question is that why are not ALL Americans like this? Why can some see through the control element and not fall for it? Clearly it's not genetic. What is it then? What helps some of them to resist and not fall for the brainwash? "- lots of fear, indoctrination and control elements from school, government and the church(es) using religion as a tool of control for obedience, patriotism, moral excuse and cutting through logic and common sense" ^ HUH?!?!? "religion in schools"??? You must be joking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18199639 Denmark 04/29/2013 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, some 85% of americans indentify themselves as christian as one kind or other. Them not really comprehending christian ideals is another matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18199639 In the end it's all about gullibility and early childhood indoctrination coupled with an impotent fear of death. Another day... Another Eurotard. Imagine you tools had stayed in Europe, you'd actually get a decent education. But sure, just close your eyes and drink the koolaid you tool. Speaking of tools, you really do just make up any shit you want and try to pretend it's real doncha? I have come to believe that you eurotards know so little about this country that's it's pathertic and you are totally ignorant and should just STFU! You do know we have MORE FOREIGN STUDENTS than any other country, don't you? Name me one more country that has more than this one. And since you can't just stop it with your lying. Last count about 700,000. [link to www.brookings.edu] Meanwhile the EU is TRYING to attract more foreign students and has only about 200,000. [link to europa.eu] So where's the education now, skippy? Check overall student performances, you will find the US of A are placed fairly low. Dipshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36221472 United States 04/29/2013 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because the scribe monkeys, who dont even worship your dog, I mean your "god" (inverted, dog / anubis) commanded you to in their spell book called the bible (spell / word / sigil / magik - wiki sigil majik and learn what "letters" are haha) - shhh let them do it, we need em to embrace ONE side of the opposites and fall over due to lack of balance between mirror opposites. its a filter, bye bye to the birdy who embraces only one of is mirror opposites wings.. it is eaten and dead... the bird who embraces duality (thats all we have clownshoes) "flies away" and lives balanced. I think they need to cut themselves down the middle too, cant have duality!! poke out one eye! sssh don't tell em... earth is crouded, this is a test... bye bye birdy... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10858311 United States 04/29/2013 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The American "christians" on here are as far removed from true christians as you could imagine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39019006 Not being a christian myself but knowing the New Testament reasonably well, I can't find where Jesus equates christianity with bigotry, racism and homophobia. No doubt one of the bible-bashers will be able to edumacate me though. Discrimination is an act that can be seen and punished by law, whereas prejudice is related to peoples inner thoughts and emotions, which cannot be easily regulated. Any attempt to eliminate prejudice must not merely curb discriminatory acts but also change a persons thoughts and feelings toward people of another group. Can this really be done? If so, how? Linda, a white South-African: "The scripture at Philippians 2:3 [" 3 doing nothing out of contentiousness+ or out of egotism, but with lowliness of mind considering that the others are superior to YOU, "] helped me to see that if I considered everyone as superior to me, I would be able to overcome prejudice. Living by Bible principles such as these has helped me to take an interest in others no matter what color skin they have. Now I feel liberated from the cage of prejudice." [link to wol.jw.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38307711 United States 04/29/2013 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38307711 Most Americans are children of christian mental abuse. They come from homes where their mommy or daddy have beaten this medieval nonsense into their heads from very early age. Reasoning with them, showing them the fallacies and all the filth in the bible, is almost always futile - because its a life long hobby and how they integrate and relate with their community. The only luxury I allow myself when one of them tries to convert me to worshiping yahweh the celestial psychopath is - I ridicule their beliefs mercilessly. It serves as both deterrent of future attempts and possibly a seed that might sprout in the distant future. But how can you possibly know this is the case? Or do you somehow believe you have access to reliable statistics or honest journalism or something? Granted, this must be the idea of Americans -in the world's mind- that's desired by TPTB, since it's an idea uniformly held by those who believe themselves to be "educated". But just because certain persons are in a position to float any meme that they care to float, doesn't indicate it's the truth, does it? How do I know that an otherwise rational person turns into a clock-work-orange case when it comes to employing rational thinking on certain topics? By talking to them and seeing them display irrational thinking patterns. By watching them talk to others when it comes to these topics and display the same. [link to www.atheist-experience.com] is a great display of christian irrationality that is in itself a fairly reliable experiment that has been running for years. You can watch Jesus Camp documentary if you want reliable journalism documenting an extreme case of christian brainwashing. I don't hold my beliefs because I am educated or because its a fashionable meme, I hold them because my observations point to certain conclusions, as un-peer reviewed as they may be. How do you know what TPTB want? How do you know that all educated people hold this belief? Are you aware there are plenty of highly educated scientists that are christian? Too many assumptions already. No it doesn't indicate the truth, but it does indicate an overwhelming body of evidence that christianity needs irrational mindset in order to survive as a meme - making it frankly, a mental disease. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37674349 United States 04/29/2013 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, some 85% of americans indentify themselves as christian as one kind or other. Them not really comprehending christian ideals is another matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18199639 In the end it's all about gullibility and early childhood indoctrination coupled with an impotent fear of death. Oh yeah? Do tell. I love it when total strangers have insight about my life that I am unaware of. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39097642 United Kingdom 04/29/2013 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, some 85% of americans indentify themselves as christian as one kind or other. Them not really comprehending christian ideals is another matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18199639 In the end it's all about gullibility and early childhood indoctrination coupled with an impotent fear of death. Another day... Another Eurotard. Imagine you tools had stayed in Europe, you'd actually get a decent education. But sure, just close your eyes and drink the koolaid you tool. Speaking of tools, you really do just make up any shit you want and try to pretend it's real doncha? I have come to believe that you eurotards know so little about this country that's it's pathertic and you are totally ignorant and should just STFU! You do know we have MORE FOREIGN STUDENTS than any other country, don't you? Name me one more country that has more than this one. And since you can't just stop it with your lying. Last count about 700,000. [link to www.brookings.edu] Meanwhile the EU is TRYING to attract more foreign students and has only about 200,000. [link to europa.eu] So where's the education now, skippy? While not trying to get involved in the whole who has the best/worst education, the UK, Ireland and others are not included in those EU figures (but then again I don't consider the UK to be part of the European continent) Still the UK gets around 430,000 International students each year.. which I don't consider bad given our size, but then again we have had our own troubles regarding the reason some come for supposed higher education, but really using it as a way to get into the country.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10858311 United States 04/29/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38307711 Most Americans are children of christian mental abuse. They come from homes where their mommy or daddy have beaten this medieval nonsense into their heads from very early age. Reasoning with them, showing them the fallacies and all the filth in the bible, is almost always futile - because its a life long hobby and how they integrate and relate with their community. The only luxury I allow myself when one of them tries to convert me to worshiping yahweh the celestial psychopath is - I ridicule their beliefs mercilessly. It serves as both deterrent of future attempts and possibly a seed that might sprout in the distant future. But how can you possibly know this is the case? Or do you somehow believe you have access to reliable statistics or honest journalism or something? Granted, this must be the idea of Americans -in the world's mind- that's desired by TPTB, since it's an idea uniformly held by those who believe themselves to be "educated". But just because certain persons are in a position to float any meme that they care to float, doesn't indicate it's the truth, does it? How do I know that an otherwise rational person turns into a clock-work-orange case when it comes to employing rational thinking on certain topics? By talking to them and seeing them display irrational thinking patterns. By watching them talk to others when it comes to these topics and display the same. [link to www.atheist-experience.com] is a great display of christian irrationality that is in itself a fairly reliable experiment that has been running for years. You can watch Jesus Camp documentary if you want reliable journalism documenting an extreme case of christian brainwashing. I don't hold my beliefs because I am educated or because its a fashionable meme, I hold them because my observations point to certain conclusions, as un-peer reviewed as they may be. How do you know what TPTB want? How do you know that all educated people hold this belief? Are you aware there are plenty of highly educated scientists that are christian? Too many assumptions already. No it doesn't indicate the truth, but it does indicate an overwhelming body of evidence that christianity needs irrational mindset in order to survive as a meme - making it frankly, a mental disease. I went to your link and saw this video was available to view there- "Atheist Experience #811: Imagined Childhood Powers". I haven't watched it yet [and can't promise I will], because everybody in my household, who would be within earshot right now, are atheist enough already, imho, and need no further encouragement in that direction. I don't remember any "imagined special powers" when I was a child. More the opposite, I would have said. Felt pretty powerless, with no one I could ask about things that were important to me. -Certainly not my atheist parents, for instance, with their studied indifference to anything that anyone could rationally care about, from my perspective. My mother seemed pretty indifferent to my feelings when she coldly, almost sadistically informed the three-year-old me about "death", and impatiently brushed away my question whether there could be anything after death, with a firm and angry "NO! Now take your nap!" As for "Jesus Camp", -haven't seen that either-, but as with "Westboro Baptist Church", and that guy that burns the Koran, if [a big "IF"] one supposed they were real in the first place?: " He that does not love has not come to know God, because God is love." " You must love your neighbor as yourself.", etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31120633 United States 04/29/2013 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, some 85% of americans indentify themselves as christian as one kind or other. Them not really comprehending christian ideals is another matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18199639 In the end it's all about gullibility and early childhood indoctrination coupled with an impotent fear of death. Another day... Another Eurotard. Imagine you tools had stayed in Europe, you'd actually get a decent education. But sure, just close your eyes and drink the koolaid you tool. you eurotards are all slaves to american products, services and garbage. FACT. |
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