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Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?

 
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Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
Shouldn't self sufficency be a personal responsibly ?
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IQ's and work ethic's come in all shapes, sizes & colors my friend
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Felony doesn't help.
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
choosing to live free over taking a slow death behind a desk climbing the ladder to nowhere maybe?
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The job market doesn't think so
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Not everybody can be self sufficient, owning their own business, or a lot of major industries would collapse.
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
A criminal record can fuck up your employment opportunities quite easily. Lack of direction. Inability to be told what to do (bad attitude).

It's really amazing how many people are lazy self entitled shit heads. And that comment is coming from a former lazy shit head. I had a temp job at an Amazon warehouse over the holidays and you wouldn't believe how many lazy ass people thought they should be allowed to follow their own special rules. And those were the people who were able to get hired....imagine the ones they passed on.
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
IQ's and work ethic's come in all shapes, sizes & colors my friend
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I was a dumb-ass in High school and barely graduated.

After two years of bullshit jobs I decided to learn electronics.

Shit load of math and hard as fuck but I eventually figured it all out.

I paid for my education 100%

I now own my home. I have two sports cars, a few motorcycles, a boat and a modest daily driver.


It can be done.
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choosing to live free over taking a slow death behind a desk climbing the ladder to nowhere maybe?
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Living free = minimum wage? Sorry but hard work and commitment, following your dream. If you believe the gov is here to take care of you then more than likely you're a minimum wage mouth breather.
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IQ's and work ethic's come in all shapes, sizes & colors my friend
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I was a dumb-ass in High school and barely graduated.

After two years of bullshit jobs I decided to learn electronics.

Shit load of math and hard as fuck but I eventually figured it all out.

I paid for my education 100%

I now own my home. I have two sports cars, a few motorcycles, a boat and a modest daily driver.


It can be done.
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Yes it can
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Voting for hoax and chains!!!!

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Not everybody can be self sufficient, owning their own business, or a lot of major industries would collapse.
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I mean can earn enough to pay for their existance
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
A criminal record can fuck up your employment opportunities quite easily. Lack of direction. Inability to be told what to do (bad attitude).

It's really amazing how many people are lazy self entitled shit heads. And that comment is coming from a former lazy shit head. I had a temp job at an Amazon warehouse over the holidays and you wouldn't believe how many lazy ass people thought they should be allowed to follow their own special rules. And those were the people who were able to get hired....imagine the ones they passed on.
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Also having a kid without a husband
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
I am college educated and had a great paying job 4 years ago, worked for the same company for almost 15 years.

Got laid off (was the last employee let go) due to lack of business (manufacturing industry).

I made a bad choice not going into the medical field. I had to take a job paying min. wage as that was all I could find.

I plan on going back to school, there are tons of people in my position.

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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
Usually those that are paid the most make those decisions for the rest of us
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
OP,

I retired a Multi-Millionaire at the age of 37,....9 years ago.

Here are the decisions I made

I started throwing the newspaper at age 9
I started working for $2.00 an hour cleaning cages at the Vet. Clinic at age 11
I was the Sports hero for all little league sport in Carrollton TX in 1970's
I got my Drivers License & 1977 Trans-Am at the age of 14
I got my GED at the age of 15
I Moved into My apartment at the age of 15
I joined the Army at age 21 and deployed to 6 Combat Zones
I medically retired from the Army at 37
I built a chain of Hot dog restaurants (8 of them)and sold them and retired... again at age 40
I bought 6 publicly traded companies (Stock Tickers), built them up and sold them all and retired a 3rd time at 43

Now I own 2 Gold & Silver Mines and Garden/Fish/Research/Gormet Cook.

I left out a lot, like,.... I was the Youngest ever Wal-Mart Department Manager, "Perswonally appointed the position by Mr. Sam Walton himself at Store 789 in Mesquite Tx, 1985

and my World patent:

Patent # US60/972,098
Filed at:
World Intellectual Property Organization
34, chemin des Colombettes
CH-1211 Geneva 20, Switzerland



Basically, I feel that folks who go to High School, then to College and on to Universities are "Stuck" with their useless Degree's and wasted years of toil in class rooms, when there is a whole wide world out there awaiting the "Next Go getter".


*Many college Graduates, worked for Me Slinging Hot dogs, helping me "Build My Empire"


my .02 cents


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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
Shouldn't self sufficency be a personal responsibly ?
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


It would take a big, big tent to cover all the possible answers to this question.

Stay-at-home mother forced into workplace by divorce, let's take that one.
Nah, still can't see her needing to go to minimum wage. Even day care work, pretty low-paid, does pay more than minimum wage.

And anyone showing some gumption would not stay in that first position, most likely.

But some of us are not the best earners. The habit of thrift is able to stretch a small salary - but minimum wage is hard.

I am not sure any adult stays long at minimum wage. It's up or out.
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
OP,

I retired a Multi-Millionaire at the age of 37,....9 years ago.

Here are the decisions I made

I started throwing the newspaper at age 9
I started working for $2.00 an hour cleaning cages at the Vet. Clinic at age 11
I was the Sports hero for all little league sport in Carrollton TX in 1970's
I got my Drivers License & 1977 Trans-Am at the age of 14
I got my GED at the age of 15
I Moved into My apartment at the age of 15
I joined the Army at age 21 and deployed to 6 Combat Zones
I medically retired from the Army at 37
I built a chain of Hot dog restaurants (8 of them)and sold them and retired... again at age 40
I bought 6 publicly traded companies (Stock Tickers), built them up and sold them all and retired a 3rd time at 43

Now I own 2 Gold & Silver Mines and Garden/Fish/Research/Gormet Cook.

I left out a lot, like,.... I was the Youngest ever Wal-Mart Department Manager, "Perswonally appointed the position by Mr. Sam Walton himself at Store 789 in Mesquite Tx, 1985



Basically, I feel that folks who go to High School, then to College and on to Universities are "Stuck" with their useless Degree's and wasted years of toil in class rooms, when there is a whole wide world out there awaiting the "Next Go getter".


*Many college Graduates, worked for Slinging Hot dogs, helping me "Build My Empire"


my .02 cents

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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
I am college educated and had a great paying job 4 years ago, worked for the same company for almost 15 years.

Got laid off (was the last employee let go) due to lack of business (manufacturing industry).

I made a bad choice not going into the medical field. I had to take a job paying min. wage as that was all I could find.

I plan on going back to school, there are tons of people in my position.
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I got layed off at 53 but I had my house paid for and the kids college saved for. I also had made sure my skills were up to date and marketable. Got a new job in 16 weeks during the worst of the recession.
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
I am college educated and had a great paying job 4 years ago, worked for the same company for almost 15 years.

Got laid off (was the last employee let go) due to lack of business (manufacturing industry).

I made a bad choice not going into the medical field. I had to take a job paying min. wage as that was all I could find.

I plan on going back to school, there are tons of people in my position.
 Quoting: geminilion


I got layed off at 53 but I had my house paid for and the kids college saved for. I also had made sure my skills were up to date and marketable. Got a new job in 16 weeks during the worst of the recession.
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
It starts with someone asking what bad decisions can causer an adult to get minimum wage.

For if you dont know the minimum then the minimum you will get.
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
Bad decisions like putting family and raising children first?

Many women choose to drop out of the work world or set their educations aside to be housewives at their husband's request or decide to stay at home with their kids during the most crucial development years.

When their kids get older, their husbands lose their jobs or take a pay cut, or they get divorced or widowed they have to start all over in terms of employment.

It isn't always a bad decision that can cause someone not to be making big bucks. A lot of older experienced workers laid off and recent college grads are having to settle for minimum wage jobs because of the economy.

Your idea of self sufficiency is only tied to the amount of money someone has? What about all the trust fund babies?

A lot of lower income people are the most knowledgeable about self sufficiency. People who have money often tend to be the least self sufficient people, especially in a crisis.
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People who say, "you can't make a livable wage at Wal-Mart" should be kicked in the balls. Wal-Mart isn't supposed to be a "career". You aren't supposed to support a family off Wal-Mart wages. Or McDonald's, Burger King, or Wendy's.

These are non-skilled jobs for high-school students. I truly feel sorry for people who can't do any better than Wal-Mart. I have a cousin who, at 53 years old, had to go to work at Wal-Mart even though he has tons of computer skills. He's skilled in Pro-Tools, anything to do with the Mac, general PC and networking skills, pretty much any technical help-desk, etc. But, he made some bad choices. He didn't like the way the child support system worked so when they tracked him down, he quit his job.

Once he relocated in the city, he ended up with a misdemeanor marijuana charge. That little mistake has cost him dearly. He has missed out on several decent job opportunities including one I am now working at, because he couldn't pass a T1 background check. Or the prelim T2 or T3 for that matter.

Many of the people working those types of jobs have a similar "back story" they don't tell people about; who would want to? It's embarrassing. I do feel sorry for him but the fact is, he did it to himself.
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Bad decisions like putting family and raising children first?

Many women choose to drop out of the work world or set their educations aside to be housewives at their husband's request or decide to stay at home with their kids during the most crucial development years.

When their kids get older, their husbands lose their jobs or take a pay cut, or they get divorced or widowed they have to start all over in terms of employment.

It isn't always a bad decision that can cause someone not to be making big bucks. A lot of older experienced workers laid off and recent college grads are having to settle for minimum wage jobs because of the economy.

Your idea of self sufficiency is only tied to the amount of money someone has? What about all the trust fund babies?

A lot of lower income people are the most knowledgeable about self sufficiency. People who have money often tend to be the least self sufficient people, especially in a crisis.
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+1

Being self sufficient has nothing to do with making a lot of money.

I worked for 19 years, did a good job, worked hard - that didn't matter when someone in another country was willing to do my job for pennies on the dollar.

And now I'm a mom, the most important job I've ever had. When my child is old enough to not need me to be home all the time, minimum wage is all I'll find.

Really glad we're working on being self sufficient, so we wont have to worry about making tons of money.

What will all the folks who only have cash do when the economy collapses? Or when the guberment decides to give you a "haircut " like they did in Cyprus?
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Shouldn't self sufficency be a personal responsibly ?
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Yes it should.

Learn IT, and you'll always have a well-paid job, at least in the UK.
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Re: Question: What bad decisions cause an adult to only get minimum wage?
OP,

I retired a Multi-Millionaire at the age of 37,....9 years ago.

Here are the decisions I made

I started throwing the newspaper at age 9
I started working for $2.00 an hour cleaning cages at the Vet. Clinic at age 11
I was the Sports hero for all little league sport in Carrollton TX in 1970's
I got my Drivers License & 1977 Trans-Am at the age of 14
I got my GED at the age of 15
I Moved into My apartment at the age of 15
I joined the Army at age 21 and deployed to 6 Combat Zones
I medically retired from the Army at 37
I built a chain of Hot dog restaurants (8 of them)and sold them and retired... again at age 40
I bought 6 publicly traded companies (Stock Tickers), built them up and sold them all and retired a 3rd time at 43

Now I own 2 Gold & Silver Mines and Garden/Fish/Research/Gormet Cook.

I left out a lot, like,.... I was the Youngest ever Wal-Mart Department Manager, "Perswonally appointed the position by Mr. Sam Walton himself at Store 789 in Mesquite Tx, 1985

and my World patent:

Patent # US60/972,098
Filed at:
World Intellectual Property Organization
34, chemin des Colombettes
CH-1211 Geneva 20, Switzerland



Basically, I feel that folks who go to High School, then to College and on to Universities are "Stuck" with their useless Degree's and wasted years of toil in class rooms, when there is a whole wide world out there awaiting the "Next Go getter".


*Many college Graduates, worked for Me Slinging Hot dogs, helping me "Build My Empire"


my .02 cents

 Quoting: Juggalo


so you retired as a multimillionaire at age 37, and also began building your hotdog empire that made you a multimillionaire at age 37? your story contradicts itself, but it's inspiring, despite being openly flawed.





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