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<<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports

 
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How does a civilian airline pilot know he has missles inbound? Does the plane he is flying have missle lock detection equipment on board? Does it also have missle avoidance tech? What type of civilian airliner are we talking about?
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How does a civilian airline pilot know he has missles inbound? Does the plane he is flying have missle lock detection equipment on board? Does it also have missle avoidance tech? What type of civilian airliner are we talking about?
 Quoting: Baron 8616908


I know planes have avoidance systems for other aircraft..maybe it got set off by incoming missile?
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if it's the rebels and I use that term loosely...so not helping their cause.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Understatement of the day there lol

Assuming this is the rebels, it basically ends the already slim chance of any intervention. Short of gassing Turkey Assad can do what the fuck he likes now.

Of course if it's Assad then he's signed his own death warrant.
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How does a civilian airline pilot know he has missles inbound? Does the plane he is flying have missle lock detection equipment on board? Does it also have missle avoidance tech? What type of civilian airliner are we talking about?
 Quoting: Baron 8616908


I know planes have avoidance systems for other aircraft..maybe it got set off by incoming missile?
 Quoting: godzilla85


It's also possible they got missile warning systems after 9/11, but I doubt they'd want to admit that.
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Update: The pilots managed to maneuver the plane in time however, “saving the lives of passengers.”
 Quoting: NEWSMAN


..it was papa DENZEL !!! :)))) ..this news is a bulzit .., crap disinfo ..!!
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Update: The pilots managed to maneuver the plane in time however, “saving the lives of passengers.”
 Quoting: NEWSMAN


..it was papa DENZEL !!! :)))) ..this news is a bulzit .., crap disinfo ..!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39066950


But by who though? Russia? Assad? It helps him if the rebels are shooting at passenger planes.
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Well, it's not Assad - Russia is his biggest ally - his lifeline. Holy crap, this is unbelievable. I think TPTB are getting desperate - perhaps an attempt to move the Russian people to decry Putin's support for Assad?

I wonder if the US press is going to cover this. I'm thinking not bloody likely.
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[link to rt.com]

Two missiles were fired at a Russian passenger plane flying over Syrian territory with 200 people onboard, an informed source in Moscow told Interfax news agency. The source of the attack remains unknown.

“Syrian [officials] informed us that on Monday morning, unidentified forces launched two ground-to-air missiles which exploded in the air very close to a civilian aircraft belonging to a Russian airline,” the source told the Russian agency.

The pilots managed to maneuver the plane in time however, “saving the lives of passengers.”

It is believed the aircraft was intentionally targeted in the attempted strike, “but it remains unclear whether the attackers knew whether it was Russian or not,” the source added.

The passenger plane was en route to Russia after departing from an unspecified resort city in Egypt at the time of the reported attack.

So far, the incident has not been officially confirmed. Russia's embassy in Damascus is looking into the report of the attack on the Russian passenger plane, RT has been told.


The civil war in Syria between the government of President Bashar Assad and opposition forces has been raging for over two years, claiming the lives of more than 70,000 people according to UN estimates. Assad says he is fighting an insurgency which has been sponsored from abroad.
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russia will start sending fighter aircraft escorts alongside its passenger planes if this shit happens again.. that way if a missile is fired at the passenger plane, bye bye whoever fired it.
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russia will start sending fighter aircraft escorts alongside its passenger planes if this shit happens again.. that way if a missile is fired at the passenger plane, bye bye whoever fired it.
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I could see them doing that actually.
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Two missiles? Damn! That's some maneuvering.
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Two missiles? Damn! That's some maneuvering.
 Quoting: Gypsy Priest


Or poor missiles.
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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
Interesting.

Maby we can find more info via my thread?
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Find more info via this thread.

Thread: GLP INTEL BUNKER : Air traffic feeds / tracking and ship tracking / Earthcams.And others. UKRAINE tensions.
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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
Could be deliberate by the rebels. There was a big stink a few months back about the Russians arming Assad's army.
 Quoting: Tess2012


That would be a stupid move by the Rebels then. The whole world would condemn them for shooting down a passenger liner. I don't think the rebels are that stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


Agreed, but the people funding the rebels have proven they would gleefully shoot down a passenger plane and let someone else take the blame.
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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
What are the chances that some person was sitting, watching flight info, waiting for a Russian plane. Probably was looking to take out any plane and "oops, it was Russia".
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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
Also...how the hell did the pilots manuever away???
 Quoting: AdRock


that's what I'm thinking. Unless the missiles were very primitive themselves I can't see how a civilian aircraft could out-maneuver them, irregardless the pilots abilities - no word on the plane model, but it's definetely a big one if it was carrying 200 people aboard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39068132


Cut engines and descend to maintain speed. Clouds can aid in loosing IR seekers.

Turning parallel to the missiles path (into or away from) reduces cross-section that can be hit.

Dropping landing gear and air brake just before impact can out maneuver the missile.

 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Either that... or they just had all the passengers throw their lit'cigs out the window... throwing off the heat seeking missiles.
 Quoting: TraderRob


LOL!
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REPORT: The Israeli Air Force Flew Into Syria And Bombed A Chemical Weapons Plant businessinsider.com/report-israeli… #tcot #ocra #OpSLAM
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Two missiles? Damn! That's some maneuvering.
 Quoting: Gypsy Priest


Or poor missiles.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Must be Korean made.
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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
Could be deliberate by the rebels. There was a big stink a few months back about the Russians arming Assad's army.
 Quoting: Tess2012


That would be a stupid move by the Rebels then. The whole world would condemn them for shooting down a passenger liner. I don't think the rebels are that stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


Agreed, but the people funding the rebels have proven they would gleefully shoot down a passenger plane and let someone else take the blame.
 Quoting: Don Nicky Gambino 35653536


But who else would take the blame? Assad isn't going to shoot at a Russian passenger plane.
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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
Syria may be at war, but there are still domestic and international flights throughout the country. Not nearly as many, but they do operate. Not saying it is a smart thing, bit it is business as usual for many people in that part of the world.

It's especially dangerous in that part of the world given that terrorists will pretty much kill anything and anyone without regard.
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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
Could be deliberate by the rebels. There was a big stink a few months back about the Russians arming Assad's army.
 Quoting: Tess2012


That would be a stupid move by the Rebels then. The whole world would condemn them for shooting down a passenger liner. I don't think the rebels are that stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


Agreed, but the people funding the rebels have proven they would gleefully shoot down a passenger plane and let someone else take the blame.
 Quoting: Don Nicky Gambino 35653536


But who else would take the blame? Assad isn't going to shoot at a Russian passenger plane.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Wasn't me

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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
Transavia (the cheaper Russian airline) has many flights to Egypt.

Russians love to go where it's cheap even if it is unsafe. They don't care as long as it's cheap and they can find a beach.

Egypt: Hurghada, Luxor, Marsa Alam, Sharm El Sheikh, Taba.

I would not be surprised if it was one of their flights that was fired at.

I am looking at specialty sites see if I can find any information.
 Quoting: F-BVFA


Sharm El Sheikh is cheap??? first ive heard. has it been over run by the muslim brotherhood or something??
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Pooty gonna poot

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This one is going to be in my collection of memes.rofl
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BNO News: Plane fired at over Syria was an Airbus A320 flying for Nordwind Airlines, Russian gov't says
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BNO News: Plane fired at over Syria was an Airbus A320 flying for Nordwind Airlines, Russian gov't says
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Thanks!
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BNO News: Plane fired at over Syria was flying from Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt to Kazan, Russia; landed as scheduled
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Re: <<BREAKING>>Missiles fired at Russian plane with 200 passengers onboard flying over Syria – reports
Well if it was an Airbus in NORMAL LAW...pilots did a good job given all these restrictions:


[link to www.airbusdriver.net]


Load factor Limitation
Prevents pilot from overstressing the aircraft even if full sidestick deflections are applied.

Attitude Protection
Pitch limited to 30 deg up, 15 deg down, and 67 deg of bank.
These limits are indicated by green = signs on the PFD.
Bank angles in excess of 33 deg require constant sidestick input.
If input is released the aircraft returns to and maintains 33 deg of bank.

High Angle of Attack Protection (alpha):
When alpha exceeds alpha prot, elevator control switches to alpha protection mode in which angle of attack is proportional to sidestick deflection.
Alpha max will not be exceeded even if the pilot applies full aft deflection

High Speed Protection:
Prevents exceeding VMO or MMO by introducing a pitch up load factor demand.
The pilot can NOT override the pitch up command.





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