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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
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I only read the title and won't read the rest of this thread.

just

because

it is not true that Christians hate homosexuals

we [Christians] are against homosexuality

in case you do not know the difference yet,

get educated first

before you speak in public.
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Homosexuals infringe on the majority to destroy democracy and are part of a larger Marxist agenda.
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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
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You are hetero?

I don't believe you, fudge boy.
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Homosexuals infringe on the majority to destroy democracy and are part of a larger Marxist agenda.
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You mean we should be as tolerant as the gays?
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A Christian would not hate homosexuals. To be Christian means to live like Christ, to spread love. You talk about the bibletards that are not able to or stopped thinking.
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Christians don't hate gays. Since there is no degree of sin, short of sacrificing your children, and ALL have sinned, no, we Christians are no better. However, there is the saying, "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

On the other hand, gays probably have a pretty good idea about what the Bible says about homosexuality, so they displace their anger over that to hapless Christians. Gays also don't want to be 'preached' to about their chosen way of life, because you know, it's all about them. What THEY want. In my opinion, most gays are the epitome of selfishness. When Jesus said 'Take up your cross and follow me', that 'cross' is all of the sinful behavior we partake in everyday. Gays don't want to give up their sinful behavior, and will lash out at anyone telling them to.

So no, we don't hate gays, but I bet most, myself included, would wish they would stop trying to get others to ENDORSE their lifestyle. That goes for Christians too, because Jesus never told his disciples to bludgeon people over the head with God's Word.
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No offence to people who do what they do. Do what you like in the privacy of your own place...............If it don't hurt you then enjoy the experience....But me being of somewhat of a mechanical mind I would only have one thing to add to this discussion.........

Things are designed for a reason. There are one way valves, and there are receptive valves............

Some things are meant to fit certain things. Most things work as nature intended. Nature and the natural order of things are just they way they are.....

I;m trying to not be offensive here but I will state what I have come to notice................

Babies wear nappies............Men do not...

Once A man, twice a child, does have nothing to do with societal mechanics.
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. How are we different from homosexuals?
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One difference is procreation.
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Things are designed for a reason. There are one way valves, and there are receptive valves............

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Agreed. Could you imagine someone building a house, and when the plumbing is installed, they only install pipes with male connectors?
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Christians don't hate gays. Since there is no degree of sin, short of sacrificing your children, and ALL have sinned, no, we Christians are no better. However, there is the saying, "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

On the other hand, gays probably have a pretty good idea about what the Bible says about homosexuality, so they displace their anger over that to hapless Christians. Gays also don't want to be 'preached' to about their chosen way of life, because you know, it's all about them. What THEY want. In my opinion, most gays are the epitome of selfishness. When Jesus said 'Take up your cross and follow me', that 'cross' is all of the sinful behavior we partake in everyday. Gays don't want to give up their sinful behavior, and will lash out at anyone telling them to.

So no, we don't hate gays, but I bet most, myself included, would wish they would stop trying to get others to ENDORSE their lifestyle. That goes for Christians too, because Jesus never told his disciples to bludgeon people over the head with God's Word.
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Re: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
Christians discriminate against homosexuals because they need someone to oppress.

They don't know their BIBLES well enough to know that it is totally wrong to oppress anyone.

They love throwing the guilt trip on homosexuals because it makes them feel superior.

They pick and choose anything that suits their bigotry.

Sad but true!

hf
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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
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I don't need to read your expose... You're gay -- good for you... now go away. I've turned homophobic after what your mafia has done to my country for the last 60 years... (am I wrong)? No.
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Re: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
Christians discriminate against homosexuals because they need someone to oppress.

They don't know their BIBLES well enough to know that it is totally wrong to oppress anyone.

They love throwing the guilt trip on homosexuals because it makes them feel superior.

They pick and choose anything that suits their bigotry.

Sad but true!

hf
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The delusional post of the day so far, God´s condemning homosexuality in the Bible. Whatever
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What you're not getting is that people will eventually exterminate themselves either through homosexuality because it will eventually become illegal for men and women to procreate in the future,but homosexuality will become the norm. But I swear I hope we don't see this in our life times.
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They pick and choose anything that suits their bigotry.

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The fag activists are going on all out attack on traditional family.

They won't stop until family unit as such is permanently destroyed.

When they get 'marriage', they want to adopt children to produce more fresh bodies for their fag-bathhouses.

When they get 'adoption', they want to REMOVE words like 'father', 'mother', 'son', 'daughter' from the language. Just like they pushed their filth onto word 'gay'. No, fags will forever stay fags, since that word describes the core of their perverted nature.

Once they have removed few gender related words from language, they want to remove all gender related words from language.


Why should anyone, that has any sanity left, would accept such absolutely destructive world vision with 'tolerance'?

Human bodies have immune systems for reason - to get rid of plagues and viruses.

The same is with any society that has not yet been KILLED off morally completely by the fag-plague - they are not tolerating any attempts of the fag-plague carriers to settle among them and infect their children!
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Christians discriminate against homosexuals because they need someone to oppress.

They don't know their BIBLES well enough to know that it is totally wrong to oppress anyone.

They love throwing the guilt trip on homosexuals because it makes them feel superior.

They pick and choose anything that suits their bigotry.

Sad but true!

hf
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No, your comment is just sad. And ignorant.
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Christians don't hate gays. Since there is no degree of sin, short of sacrificing your children, and ALL have sinned, no, we Christians are no better. However, there is the saying, "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

On the other hand, gays probably have a pretty good idea about what the Bible says about homosexuality, so they displace their anger over that to hapless Christians. Gays also don't want to be 'preached' to about their chosen way of life, because you know, it's all about them. What THEY want. In my opinion, most gays are the epitome of selfishness. When Jesus said 'Take up your cross and follow me', that 'cross' is all of the sinful behavior we partake in everyday. Gays don't want to give up their sinful behavior, and will lash out at anyone telling them to.

So no, we don't hate gays, but I bet most, myself included, would wish they would stop trying to get others to ENDORSE their lifestyle. That goes for Christians too, because Jesus never told his disciples to bludgeon people over the head with God's Word.
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I think this person nailed it , most christians don't hate homos any more than any other sinner it's just a sin and we all do them so who are we to judge
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I only read the title and won't read the rest of this thread.

just

because

it is not true that Christians hate homosexuals

we [Christians] are against homosexuality

in case you do not know the difference yet,

get educated first

before you speak in public.
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You personally may not hate them but many Christians claim to. It isn't just Christians of course. But I don't really know enough about the Quran to comment about what Muslims think.

So since you are "against" homosexuality, what does it mean? You don't approve, well join the club. Many people disapprove. But would you go as far as to outlaw it and create jail sentences for them?

Regarding education, don't make assumptions. Just argue your point.
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Christians discriminate against homosexuals because they need someone to oppress.

They don't know their BIBLES well enough to know that it is totally wrong to oppress anyone.

They love throwing the guilt trip on homosexuals because it makes them feel superior.

They pick and choose anything that suits their bigotry.

Sad but true!

hf
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The delusional post of the day so far, God´s condemning homosexuality in the Bible. Whatever
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Back to BIBLE 101 before I have to show you where you are wrong.

I wouldn't throw the delusional comment around too easily if I were you. You might end up wearing it yourself.


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Homosexuals infringe on the majority to destroy democracy and are part of a larger Marxist agenda.
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Marxist? Please explain.
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Christians discriminate against homosexuals because they need someone to oppress.

They don't know their BIBLES well enough to know that it is totally wrong to oppress anyone.

They love throwing the guilt trip on homosexuals because it makes them feel superior.

They pick and choose anything that suits their bigotry.

Sad but true!

hf
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The delusional post of the day so far, God´s condemning homosexuality in the Bible. Whatever
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Back to BIBLE 101 before I have to show you where you are wrong.

I wouldn't throw the delusional comment around too easily if I were you. You might end up wearing it yourself.


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Re: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
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You are hetero?

I don't believe you, fudge boy.
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Too bad for you. I'm a woman.
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You mean we should be as tolerant as the gays?
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Those people should go to jail for their behaviour. Do you think all gays attack non-gays?
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Lol. As much as this seems funny, the Pastor in this video has some good points. He has proof that certain organizations are spreading a pro-gay message in our schools. Pamphlets telling kids that being homosexual is just another acceptable orientation.
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I am not a Christian. And I don't hate gays or anyone else. I am very
Placid and free of hate to all.

But I think faggotry is an unnatural thing. It's the sign of something wrong, not something to be paraded and Celebrated. I also dislike the way pro-faggot messages are constantly shoved in my face everywhere I go, like every TV shi w who has a wise or talented gay, every movie at lest mentions it, etc. And they teach about it in school now, with is wrong. Sexuality should be taught by parents, not school. Gay or straight.

People think they are special and seek special victimhood status, attention, etc based simply on being gay. They base their whole identity around what they do in the bedroom. Personally I base my identity around job and family accomplishments, not what my wife and I do in private time. If you want to be gay, go ahead: I just don want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about heterosexual practices of friends, neighbors, co-workers, and strangers, either.

All of the above is perfectly rational and has nothing to do with hate. But because the pro-fag crowd withers in the face of actual logic, all they can do is scree about "hate" and "discrimination." This is their way of avoid logical discourse.

Also, as a side-note, history teaches that acceptencs of faggotry and other perversions is a sign of a society in decline: Decadent declining Rome, late Ottoman empIre, Qing dynasty China, etc. It is a sign of a society that has lost respect for masculine ideals and has overemphasized femininity to the point of celebrating faggotry in men. Historically this is a sign of decline, with zero exceptions.
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A Christian would not hate homosexuals. To be Christian means to live like Christ, to spread love. You talk about the bibletards that are not able to or stopped thinking.
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Hmmm... Should I have called them Bibletards then? Good point.

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