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Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?

 
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Homosexuals infringe on the majority to destroy democracy and are part of a larger Marxist agenda.
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone
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With your kind of rationale none of us could ever sit on a jury and hand down justice to any criminal cause hey we ALL have sinned at some point. Let me ask you something. I have told some lies, stolen some candy bars, and used foul language in my days here on earth. Are you trying to tell me that in my mature years I should not be allowed to judge an even worse sin due to its effects on society? That is such a liberal mindset. And btw the liberal mindset is what got Obummer re-elected, gave us legalized abortion, calls obscenity freedom of speech, and so on.
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Followers and disciples of Christ do not hate them.

Christ would not hate them.

pray.
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You mean we should be as tolerant as the gays?
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Those people should go to jail for their behaviour. Do you think all gays attack non-gays?
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Every one of them should go to Prison. That is the definition of hate crime right there. No not all gays or pro gay attack like this but I think this rings so true to the entire movement IMO.

I Think it is morally wrong and against Gods law.

My thoughts on this is that all of this pro liberal stuff is a slippery slope and we are falling fast. For some reason people who have conservative values are suddenly the oddballs. Things are backwards in the world today, but then again Jesus did say it would be this way. There are larger issues at work here other than equal rights. Just like the feminist movement powers to be have an agenda behind this and IMO it is to destroy family values confuse people, cause cultural tension, And probably other things.

People get a clue homosexuality is sexually immoral. And this whole bigotry stuff needs to stop. Trying to justify homosexuals so they can do this openly is wrong. Think about it, what's next? Beastaeality is going to be ok? Pedophelia? Do you think these things are far behind?

The same arguments will be used, they can't help how they were born or who they love. Everyone shoukd have equal rights regardless of who they love riiiight?

Wake up people, stand up for what is right And moral. Enough of this stuff please.
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What emotional ill-informed clap trap.

This has nothing to do with the other crimes you mentioned.. YOU WAKE UP! This is a natural thing between two consenting adults.
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UM NO. You can say anything else you want but you cannot say it is a natural thing and get away with it. You sound fairly intelligent so don't try to fool us just because you've fooled yourself on this matter. It might be trendy, it might be cool, it might seem to be the norm these days. But it's not natural.
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That comment about casting the first stone is ridiculous.

The son came upon a woman who was condemned to death and surrounded by executioners with stones in their grip.
He said "whoever is without sin, cast the first stone" They put down their stones in his presence. Why?

Regardless of whether you believe this scenario happened, it serves a great purpose. It has a powerful resonance that will not cease to explore.

God is an expansionist. Not by the sword, by the word
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You mean we should be as tolerant as the gays?
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Those people should go to jail for their behaviour. Do you think all gays attack non-gays?
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Every one of them should go to Prison. That is the definition of hate crime right there. No not all gays or pro gay attack like this but I think this rings so true to the entire movement IMO.

I Think it is morally wrong and against Gods law.

My thoughts on this is that all of this pro liberal stuff is a slippery slope and we are falling fast. For some reason people who have conservative values are suddenly the oddballs. Things are backwards in the world today, but then again Jesus did say it would be this way. There are larger issues at work here other than equal rights. Just like the feminist movement powers to be have an agenda behind this and IMO it is to destroy family values confuse people, cause cultural tension, And probably other things.

People get a clue homosexuality is sexually immoral. And this whole bigotry stuff needs to stop. Trying to justify homosexuals so they can do this openly is wrong. Think about it, what's next? Beastaeality is going to be ok? Pedophelia? Do you think these things are far behind?

The same arguments will be used, they can't help how they were born or who they love. Everyone shoukd have equal rights regardless of who they love riiiight?

Wake up people, stand up for what is right And moral. Enough of this stuff please.
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All so spot on. One wonders...we celebrate homosexuals nowadays to the point that the President makes a phone call to congratulate someone for it. My question is why don't we also just celebrate porn culture? Oh wait, a large segment already does. Why not celebrate adultery? Polygamy? Prostitution? All sexual sins, but the gays will say there's a difference because in gay relationships there's love and love cannot be wrong. Well I'm sure some folks committing adultery feel "love" for their new partners as well. But yeah you summed it up more than well.
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Thanks I'm glad we share the same thoughts. And frankly, I know we are right. You hit it right on when you said there was love for their new partner. Of course there was but we all know it was still wrong.

The line has to be drawn somewhere otherwise there will be no end to it. Soon we should say its ok for brothers and sisters to marry because they love each other, or a man and beast can get married all in the name of equality and progress. It's absurd Nd needs to stop.

We need to get back to our roots and recover things are out of control.

Any Christians here I ask to get on your knees and ask God to heal this country. I really believe he is the only one that can save us from where we are headed. Thank you.
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Those people should go to jail for their behaviour. Do you think all gays attack non-gays?
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Every one of them should go to Prison. That is the definition of hate crime right there. No not all gays or pro gay attack like this but I think this rings so true to the entire movement IMO.

I Think it is morally wrong and against Gods law.

My thoughts on this is that all of this pro liberal stuff is a slippery slope and we are falling fast. For some reason people who have conservative values are suddenly the oddballs. Things are backwards in the world today, but then again Jesus did say it would be this way. There are larger issues at work here other than equal rights. Just like the feminist movement powers to be have an agenda behind this and IMO it is to destroy family values confuse people, cause cultural tension, And probably other things.

People get a clue homosexuality is sexually immoral. And this whole bigotry stuff needs to stop. Trying to justify homosexuals so they can do this openly is wrong. Think about it, what's next? Beastaeality is going to be ok? Pedophelia? Do you think these things are far behind?

The same arguments will be used, they can't help how they were born or who they love. Everyone shoukd have equal rights regardless of who they love riiiight?

Wake up people, stand up for what is right And moral. Enough of this stuff please.
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What emotional ill-informed clap trap.

This has nothing to do with the other crimes you mentioned.. YOU WAKE UP! This is a natural thing between two consenting adults.
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UM NO. You can say anything else you want but you cannot say it is a natural thing and get away with it. You sound fairly intelligent so don't try to fool us just because you've fooled yourself on this matter. It might be trendy, it might be cool, it might seem to be the norm these days. But it's not natural.
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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

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You mean we should be as tolerant as the gays?
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Those people should go to jail for their behaviour. Do you think all gays attack non-gays?
 Quoting: Nefertiti


Every one of them should go to Prison. That is the definition of hate crime right there. No not all gays or pro gay attack like this but I think this rings so true to the entire movement IMO.

I Think it is morally wrong and against Gods law.

My thoughts on this is that all of this pro liberal stuff is a slippery slope and we are falling fast. For some reason people who have conservative values are suddenly the oddballs. Things are backwards in the world today, but then again Jesus did say it would be this way. There are larger issues at work here other than equal rights. Just like the feminist movement powers to be have an agenda behind this and IMO it is to destroy family values confuse people, cause cultural tension, And probably other things.

People get a clue homosexuality is sexually immoral. And this whole bigotry stuff needs to stop. Trying to justify homosexuals so they can do this openly is wrong. Think about it, what's next? Beastaeality is going to be ok? Pedophelia? Do you think these things are far behind?

The same arguments will be used, they can't help how they were born or who they love. Everyone shoukd have equal rights regardless of who they love riiiight?

Wake up people, stand up for what is right And moral. Enough of this stuff please.
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What emotional ill-informed clap trap.

This has nothing to do with the other crimes you mentioned.. YOU WAKE UP! This is a natural thing between two consenting adults.

So you are anti equal rights for women and you want to have rules that affect only a certain percentage of people's bedrooms. How do equal rights for women or homosexuals destroy family values?

You must have a very weak family for them to do that. You need to do a better job in your own family!

How does gay marriage lessen your marriage? Oh that's right you don't want people to be happy or in love... It's against GOD's law.

But worse you want to throw people who are homosexual in jail. AMAZING! Let's all go back to the dark ages just for you! Shall we start with burning your Bible?

So oppression is moral? What rubbish!

It is not a Liberal/Conservative issue... There are homosexuals on both sides of the political fence.

The reason you are considered wrong is because you are wrong.

It has nothing to do with your conservatism it has more to do with your lack of intellect.

WAKE UP!

ohyeah
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Did you read what I wrote? Te prison comment was referring to the people in the video, or did you not catch the fact that I had the video in my response?

And again you misunderstand the feminist remark, what is your deal? Are you doing this on purpose? I want to reply but I don't want to have to clarify everything for you I figured you could infer but I guess not.

I think women working is fine but if you did research you would find that the American CIA funded parts of this movement. One reason is because they were only taxing half the population, how does that make you feel on that point alone? So my entire mention of that had to do with it wasn't about the rights it was about stirring cultural tension and taxing women's wages etc...

I don't care if you or women work, my wife works. Just be aware that it was much larger than just a movement for rights.

And it shows your character as a small person by making underhanded comments about my family, which you have no knowledge of. Wy would you even bring them up? Your question would have not changed its validity if that comment was not made.

But the larger question at hand I think is if you think it is ok for homosexuals to get married and have all those things that come with it, where does your moral code come from? If you believe in God of the bible h makes it clear it is an abomination. It if you have no objective moral code then I understand why these things are acceptable to you. And that is where our difference lies, there and their alone. The equal rights just stems from that.

And again my lack of intellect, what type of comments are these?

You rounded your argument out with putting words in my mouth that I said put gays in jail, which I already addressed. So please respond I am waiting anxiously.
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As a Christian(and others I know) we do not hate Homosexuals, we are against the act of Homosexuality and think it is a vile, disgusting and immoral act just as is Necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality.
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I'm completely different from homosexuals, I don't do pagan sex acts.
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Every one of them should go to Prison. That is the definition of hate crime right there. No not all gays or pro gay attack like this but I think this rings so true to the entire movement IMO.

I Think it is morally wrong and against Gods law.

My thoughts on this is that all of this pro liberal stuff is a slippery slope and we are falling fast. For some reason people who have conservative values are suddenly the oddballs. Things are backwards in the world today, but then again Jesus did say it would be this way. There are larger issues at work here other than equal rights. Just like the feminist movement powers to be have an agenda behind this and IMO it is to destroy family values confuse people, cause cultural tension, And probably other things.

People get a clue homosexuality is sexually immoral. And this whole bigotry stuff needs to stop. Trying to justify homosexuals so they can do this openly is wrong. Think about it, what's next? Beastaeality is going to be ok? Pedophelia? Do you think these things are far behind?

The same arguments will be used, they can't help how they were born or who they love. Everyone shoukd have equal rights regardless of who they love riiiight?

Wake up people, stand up for what is right And moral. Enough of this stuff please.
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What emotional ill-informed clap trap.

This has nothing to do with the other crimes you mentioned.. YOU WAKE UP! This is a natural thing between two consenting adults.
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661


UM NO. You can say anything else you want but you cannot say it is a natural thing and get away with it. You sound fairly intelligent so don't try to fool us just because you've fooled yourself on this matter. It might be trendy, it might be cool, it might seem to be the norm these days. But it's not natural.
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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

ohyeah
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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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As a Christian(and others I know) we do not hate Homosexuals, we are against the act of Homosexuality and think it is a vile, disgusting and immoral act just as is Necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality.
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Why do people always bring in these other crimes into the discussion. It has no bearing on the argument whatsoever.

The reason they are crimes, and rightly crimes, is simple. The other person or beast has no say over the act. They are criminal because it is a misuse of power. It is an abuse of power!

The fact that the homosexual adults are consenting negates that point totally.

So your real point is that you find it yucky... so do I... we are not homosexual.

But some homosexuals might find the heterosexual act yucky as well.

Should we be against it just because of Yuckiness?

The fact that you find the act disgusting really has nothing to do with it, especially as homosexuals could argue the same point! They might find what heterosexuals do disgusting. One I talked to expressed that to me.

I might even consider what you and your partner do disgusting. Should we shame you because of my thoughts about your yuckiness?

Come on people surely we can think deeper than this!

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You're talking about shit, contact with faeces, it's a toxic substance. There's nothing remotely normal about contact with faecal matter, it's foul and disgusting.
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As a Christian(and others I know) we do not hate Homosexuals, we are against the act of Homosexuality and think it is a vile, disgusting and immoral act just as is Necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality.
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Why do people always bring in these other crimes into the discussion. It has no bearing on the argument whatsoever.

The reason they are crimes, and rightly crimes, is simple. The other person or beast has no say over the act. They are criminal because it is a misuse of power. It is an abuse of power!

The fact that the homosexual adults are consenting negates that point totally.

So your real point is that you find it yucky... so do I... we are not homosexual.

But some homosexuals might find the heterosexual act yucky as well.

Should we be against it just because of Yuckiness?

The fact that you find the act disgusting really has nothing to do with it, especially as homosexuals could argue the same point! They might find what heterosexuals do disgusting. One I talked to expressed that to me.

I might even consider what you and your partner do disgusting. Should we shame you because of my thoughts about your yuckiness?

Come on people surely we can think deeper than this!

ohyeah
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Why won't you answer me? I refuted everything you said how come I don't get a response?

What guides your moral standard?

If not the dusty ol book of the bible then what?

I'm waiting anxiously
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What emotional ill-informed clap trap.

This has nothing to do with the other crimes you mentioned.. YOU WAKE UP! This is a natural thing between two consenting adults.
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661


UM NO. You can say anything else you want but you cannot say it is a natural thing and get away with it. You sound fairly intelligent so don't try to fool us just because you've fooled yourself on this matter. It might be trendy, it might be cool, it might seem to be the norm these days. But it's not natural.
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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

ohyeah
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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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As a Christian(and others I know) we do not hate Homosexuals, we are against the act of Homosexuality and think it is a vile, disgusting and immoral act just as is Necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality.
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Why do people always bring in these other crimes into the discussion. It has no bearing on the argument whatsoever.

The reason they are crimes, and rightly crimes, is simple. The other person or beast has no say over the act. They are criminal because it is a misuse of power. It is an abuse of power!

The fact that the homosexual adults are consenting negates that point totally.

So your real point is that you find it yucky... so do I... we are not homosexual.

But some homosexuals might find the heterosexual act yucky as well.

Should we be against it just because of Yuckiness?

The fact that you find the act disgusting really has nothing to do with it, especially as homosexuals could argue the same point! They might find what heterosexuals do disgusting. One I talked to expressed that to me.

I might even consider what you and your partner do disgusting. Should we shame you because of my thoughts about your yuckiness?

Come on people surely we can think deeper than this!

ohyeah
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Why won't you answer me? I refuted everything you said how come I don't get a response?

What guides your moral standard?

If not the dusty ol book of the bible then what?

I'm waiting anxiously
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I didn't watch the video... so that is why I may have failed to answer you properly.

You are correct that in some ways my knowledge of the Bible guides my moral compass.

I know Moses was a murderous evil man. I know that Paul oppressed women. I don't want to be like them so their horridness made me a better person.

I also learnt about Jesus, but why did they only teach me the lovely bits. I was indoctrinated like most people. I took the bribe... I love Easter Eggas and Christmas presents. Go figure I was a child.

It is a big question. I know hitting someone in the head with a brick is wrong, I didn't need to read it in the Bible. I know that owning a slave is wrong. GOD apparently doesn't but I do.

So it is probably a very good upbringing that guides it mostly. My parents taught me right from wrong. They were good people I am a good person, or try my best to be.

I hope that has cured your anxiety...

I eagerly await your trick question... 1rof1

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UM NO. You can say anything else you want but you cannot say it is a natural thing and get away with it. You sound fairly intelligent so don't try to fool us just because you've fooled yourself on this matter. It might be trendy, it might be cool, it might seem to be the norm these days. But it's not natural.
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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

ohyeah
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661


does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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You are so wrong it's mind boggling. And what is worse you wallow in it. And to add insult you tell me I fail my God? My God says it is an abomination, not well if they live each other it's ok.

The reason pedophelia, necrophelia, beastiality are brought up because all are immoral and objectively wrong. Despite what you believe, it is. You can justify it because you have a coalition of gays and activists on your side but it is wrong. They are abominations to The Lord regardless of your opinion.

But again you dodge me continually amazed, do you believe in objective morality?
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You're talking about shit, contact with faeces, it's a toxic substance. There's nothing remotely normal about contact with faecal matter, it's foul and disgusting.
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Well I wish you had told GOD that... Why did he put the reproductive and excretum organs in the same place.

So much for Intelligent Design!

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As a Christian(and others I know) we do not hate Homosexuals, we are against the act of Homosexuality and think it is a vile, disgusting and immoral act just as is Necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality.
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Why do people always bring in these other crimes into the discussion. It has no bearing on the argument whatsoever.

The reason they are crimes, and rightly crimes, is simple. The other person or beast has no say over the act. They are criminal because it is a misuse of power. It is an abuse of power!

The fact that the homosexual adults are consenting negates that point totally.

So your real point is that you find it yucky... so do I... we are not homosexual.

But some homosexuals might find the heterosexual act yucky as well.

Should we be against it just because of Yuckiness?

The fact that you find the act disgusting really has nothing to do with it, especially as homosexuals could argue the same point! They might find what heterosexuals do disgusting. One I talked to expressed that to me.

I might even consider what you and your partner do disgusting. Should we shame you because of my thoughts about your yuckiness?

Come on people surely we can think deeper than this!

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Why won't you answer me? I refuted everything you said how come I don't get a response?

What guides your moral standard?

If not the dusty ol book of the bible then what?

I'm waiting anxiously
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I didn't watch the video... so that is why I may have failed to answer you properly.

You are correct that in some ways my knowledge of the Bible guides my moral compass.

I know Moses was a murderous evil man. I know that Paul oppressed women. I don't want to be like them so their horridness made me a better person.

I also learnt about Jesus, but why did they only teach me the lovely bits. I was indoctrinated like most people. I took the bribe... I love Easter Eggas and Christmas presents. Go figure I was a child.

It is a big question. I know hitting someone in the head with a brick is wrong, I didn't need to read it in the Bible. I know that owning a slave is wrong. GOD apparently doesn't but I do.

So it is probably a very good upbringing that guides it mostly. My parents taught me right from wrong. They were good people I am a good person, or try my best to be.

I hope that has cured your anxiety...

I eagerly await your trick question... 1rof1

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You were A little all over the place in this response. Give me the passages please to which you are referring to, it sounds like you are reciting what someone told you once.

I'm not trying to trick you either, I. Want to get to the root of where your coming from. Because I don't understand.

Let me be more clear, do you think there is an objective morality? As in despite what you or I think there re moral truths like rape is wrong?
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You're talking about shit, contact with faeces, it's a toxic substance. There's nothing remotely normal about contact with faecal matter, it's foul and disgusting.
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Well I wish you had told GOD that... Why did he put the reproductive and excretum organs in the same place.

So much for Intelligent Design!

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Where would be a better place?
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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

ohyeah
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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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You are so wrong it's mind boggling. And what is worse you wallow in it. And to add insult you tell me I fail my God? My God says it is an abomination, not well if they live each other it's ok.

The reason pedophelia, necrophelia, beastiality are brought up because all are immoral and objectively wrong. Despite what you believe, it is. You can justify it because you have a coalition of gays and activists on your side but it is wrong. They are abominations to The Lord regardless of your opinion.

But again you dodge me continually amazed, do you believe in objective morality?
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I don't dodge you... I just don't like your ugly UnGODLY energy.

I don't like your selective use of the word abomination.

Here re-read this Thread: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different? (Page 8)

Why do you continue to make GOD look & sound unintelligent? I'm sorry that he isn't as unintelligent as you. Better luck next time... I was made in his image, you can't have been... 1rof1

You insult my GOD's intelligence. You judge too easily. Hence you are selective in your belief system.

Of course there is some types of objective morality which I would subscribe to, but there are some I wouldn't.

I don't believe in killing people... BUT I can understand someone killing someone in self defense. One has to remain a little flexible you know.

I believe in strong anti-discrimination laws... You would be trapped by those laws... I win!

Jesus didn't fully subscribe as he changed some OT laws. He changed "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek.

I object and would oppose your selective morality - does that count? 1rof1

ohyeah
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But the larger question at hand I think is if you think it is ok for homosexuals to get married and have all those things that come with it, where does your moral code come from? If you believe in God of the bible h makes it clear it is an abomination. It if you have no objective moral code then I understand why these things are acceptable to you. And that is where our difference lies, there and their alone. The equal rights just stems from that.
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That is so incredibly arrogant! Who the hell are you to define someone's personal morality?? Because they don't bow down to what YOU believe they have no objective morals? Bullshit, absolute bullshit!

Newsflash dude, there's a whole big world out there beyond your precious little Bible, it does not and never will be the be all and end all moral definer......the universe is much too big for that.

And anyway even if it WAS, what kind of a code is it? Hmm let's see......it punishes the innocent for what two people did generations before they ever existed in the fall, it wipes out an entire people down to the babies again because of what some other people were doing after it.....it demands bloodshed of an yet another innocent being to ever possibly love humanity again following it all......I could go on and on.

When it's a choice between THAT moral code and one that celebrates love of ALL kinds instead of just one......the latter wins out no contest!

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UM NO. You can say anything else you want but you cannot say it is a natural thing and get away with it. You sound fairly intelligent so don't try to fool us just because you've fooled yourself on this matter. It might be trendy, it might be cool, it might seem to be the norm these days. But it's not natural.
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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

ohyeah
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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4352201


I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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I see where your coming from, however it isn't right for men to lay with men and women with women, and no its not natural. However judging someone for any sin is a sin itself. But it is my right to have my opinion. i dont discriminate against anyone, but you also fail your God if you believe that being gay is not a sin and not asking for forgiveness when you sin, he knows we sin.
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You're talking about shit, contact with faeces, it's a toxic substance. There's nothing remotely normal about contact with faecal matter, it's foul and disgusting.
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Well I wish you had told GOD that... Why did he put the reproductive and excretum organs in the same place.

So much for Intelligent Design!

lolsign
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Where would be a better place?
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Well GOD could have put the reproductive organ of a woman on her upper arm and ours in a finger...

That would save undressing!

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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

ohyeah
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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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I see where your coming from, however it isn't right for men to lay with men and women with women, and no its not natural. However judging someone for any sin is a sin itself. But it is my right to have my opinion. i dont discriminate against anyone, but you also fail your God if you believe that being gay is not a sin and not asking for forgiveness when you sin, he knows we sin.
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It may not be natural for you... Do not judge others... as it isn't natural for me, whatsoever.

You can call it a sin if you choose in regards to yourself, but to say it of others is not your place.

Was it you who said you had tried both earlier. If you managed to try both you are probably bi-sexual. I couldn't try the other... I am totally heterosexual.

So what.. It is how you are.

I will not judge you and I will not call what you did a sin.

If it was you I appreciate your honesty.

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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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You are so wrong it's mind boggling. And what is worse you wallow in it. And to add insult you tell me I fail my God? My God says it is an abomination, not well if they live each other it's ok.

The reason pedophelia, necrophelia, beastiality are brought up because all are immoral and objectively wrong. Despite what you believe, it is. You can justify it because you have a coalition of gays and activists on your side but it is wrong. They are abominations to The Lord regardless of your opinion.

But again you dodge me continually amazed, do you believe in objective morality?
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I don't dodge you... I just don't like your ugly UnGODLY energy.

I don't like your selective use of the word abomination.

Here re-read this Thread: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different? (Page 8)

Why do you continue to make GOD look & sound unintelligent? I'm sorry that he isn't as unintelligent as you. Better luck next time... I was made in his image, you can't have been... 1rof1

You insult my GOD's intelligence. You judge too easily. Hence you are selective in your belief system.

Of course there is some types of objective morality which I would subscribe to, but there are some I wouldn't.

I don't believe in killing people... BUT I can understand someone killing someone in self defense. One has to remain a little flexible you know.

I believe in strong anti-discrimination laws... You would be trapped by those laws... I win!

Jesus didn't fully subscribe as he changed some OT laws. He changed "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek.

I object and would oppose your selective morality - does that count? 1rof1

ohyeah
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See again your attacking me personally when I am just asking you questions and giving you my honest opinion. Maybe you should look in the mirror? I haven't come at you personally.

In addition you are putting words in my mouth, I made no reference to kill in self defense and I would agree wi the statement and so would the bible. So there are no debate from either of us on that point.

The bible says it an abomination, it's not selective.

How do you subscribe to some objective morality? And who's do you follow?

You are making claims that I have never said, just trying to talk about this and your being childish.

It seems like you take bits and pieces of the bible and apply just what you like to life. Doesn't work that way
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But the larger question at hand I think is if you think it is ok for homosexuals to get married and have all those things that come with it, where does your moral code come from? If you believe in God of the bible h makes it clear it is an abomination. It if you have no objective moral code then I understand why these things are acceptable to you. And that is where our difference lies, there and their alone. The equal rights just stems from that.
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That is so incredibly arrogant! Who the hell are you to define someone's personal morality?? Because they don't bow down to what YOU believe they have no objective morals? Bullshit, absolute bullshit!

Newsflash dude, there's a whole big world out there beyond your precious little Bible, it does not and never will be the be all and end all moral definer......the universe is much too big for that.

And anyway even if it WAS, what kind of a code is it? Hmm let's see......it punishes the innocent for what two people did generations before they ever existed in the fall, it wipes out an entire people down to the babies again because of what some other people were doing after it.....it demands bloodshed of an yet another innocent being to ever possibly love humanity again following it all......I could go on and on.

When it's a choice between THAT moral code and one that celebrates love of ALL kinds instead of just one......the latter wins out no contest!
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New flash brah, I defined that the bible says it is a sin to be homosexual. Ten help me understand instead of just ridiculing me how outside of the bible, or, and transcendent objective morality homosexuality is ok, I would really like to know. No scar asm either.
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You're talking about shit, contact with faeces, it's a toxic substance. There's nothing remotely normal about contact with faecal matter, it's foul and disgusting.
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Well I wish you had told GOD that... Why did he put the reproductive and excretum organs in the same place.

So much for Intelligent Design!

lolsign
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Where would be a better place?
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Well GOD could have put the reproductive organ of a woman on her upper arm and ours in a finger...

That would save undressing!

lolsign
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Silly.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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You are so wrong it's mind boggling. And what is worse you wallow in it. And to add insult you tell me I fail my God? My God says it is an abomination, not well if they live each other it's ok.

The reason pedophelia, necrophelia, beastiality are brought up because all are immoral and objectively wrong. Despite what you believe, it is. You can justify it because you have a coalition of gays and activists on your side but it is wrong. They are abominations to The Lord regardless of your opinion.

But again you dodge me continually amazed, do you believe in objective morality?
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I don't dodge you... I just don't like your ugly UnGODLY energy.

I don't like your selective use of the word abomination.

Here re-read this Thread: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different? (Page 8)

Why do you continue to make GOD look & sound unintelligent? I'm sorry that he isn't as unintelligent as you. Better luck next time... I was made in his image, you can't have been... 1rof1

You insult my GOD's intelligence. You judge too easily. Hence you are selective in your belief system.

Of course there is some types of objective morality which I would subscribe to, but there are some I wouldn't.

I don't believe in killing people... BUT I can understand someone killing someone in self defense. One has to remain a little flexible you know.

I believe in strong anti-discrimination laws... You would be trapped by those laws... I win!

Jesus didn't fully subscribe as he changed some OT laws. He changed "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek.

I object and would oppose your selective morality - does that count? 1rof1

ohyeah
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See again your attacking me personally when I am just asking you questions and giving you my honest opinion. Maybe you should look in the mirror? I haven't come at you personally.

In addition you are putting words in my mouth, I made no reference to kill in self defense and I would agree wi the statement and so would the bible. So there are no debate from either of us on that point.

The bible says it an abomination, it's not selective.

How do you subscribe to some objective morality? And who's do you follow?

You are making claims that I have never said, just trying to talk about this and your being childish.

It seems like you take bits and pieces of the bible and apply just what you like to life. Doesn't work that way
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I was a bit mean in that last post... I am becoming bored with people who just hate homosexuals and won't just tell the truth.

The Bible says lots of things are an abomination... even you and I... Let me see you argue your abomination like you argue this.

Sorry but again you are wrong.

You tell em I can't take bits and pieces from the Bible... Amazing!

I would rather respect and honour GOD than to believe the lies the Bible presents about GOD.

You can choose the opposite... and you do!

I am off people I am tired of attempting to make you see reason... Stubborness and the ability to be continually wrong are part of a believers arsenal.

You guys have achieved both!

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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

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You are so wrong it's mind boggling. And what is worse you wallow in it. And to add insult you tell me I fail my God? My God says it is an abomination, not well if they live each other it's ok.

The reason pedophelia, necrophelia, beastiality are brought up because all are immoral and objectively wrong. Despite what you believe, it is. You can justify it because you have a coalition of gays and activists on your side but it is wrong. They are abominations to The Lord regardless of your opinion.

But again you dodge me continually amazed, do you believe in objective morality?
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I don't dodge you... I just don't like your ugly UnGODLY energy.

I don't like your selective use of the word abomination.

Here re-read this Thread: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different? (Page 8)

Why do you continue to make GOD look & sound unintelligent? I'm sorry that he isn't as unintelligent as you. Better luck next time... I was made in his image, you can't have been... 1rof1

You insult my GOD's intelligence. You judge too easily. Hence you are selective in your belief system.

Of course there is some types of objective morality which I would subscribe to, but there are some I wouldn't.

I don't believe in killing people... BUT I can understand someone killing someone in self defense. One has to remain a little flexible you know.

I believe in strong anti-discrimination laws... You would be trapped by those laws... I win!

Jesus didn't fully subscribe as he changed some OT laws. He changed "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek.

I object and would oppose your selective morality - does that count? 1rof1

ohyeah
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In regards to the link, nobody ever said we were perfect. But through Jesus we are all cleansed, I didn't see any of that scripture in your thread. Why?

Because its a new covenant, and becoming a Christian doesn't make us better than the next person or elevate us above you to point the finger. We have to leave our sin behind.

And you seem to take the words almost to literally, to such an extreme to you miss the entire point. Don't you do any type of analysis? I mean regarding the Scottish kilts, that is rooted in their tradition. And during the time period in question regarding that scripture they all wore long robes. But clearly men wore men's style robes or something signifying male and female wore female stle. What is the matter with you? Don't you have any common sense?

Of course women can wear jeans and belts hats or whatever other nonsense you said. The point is do not blur the lines and dress according to your gender whatever time period you are in.

Does it make sense now? Can you see your arrogance now?
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Re: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
Christians some crazy fuckers but they ain't no faggots. Difference? They don't fuck in the ads and are pro life. There's no sin like going against nature itself

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