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Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?

 
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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You are so wrong it's mind boggling. And what is worse you wallow in it. And to add insult you tell me I fail my God? My God says it is an abomination, not well if they live each other it's ok.

The reason pedophelia, necrophelia, beastiality are brought up because all are immoral and objectively wrong. Despite what you believe, it is. You can justify it because you have a coalition of gays and activists on your side but it is wrong. They are abominations to The Lord regardless of your opinion.

But again you dodge me continually amazed, do you believe in objective morality?
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I don't dodge you... I just don't like your ugly UnGODLY energy.

I don't like your selective use of the word abomination.

Here re-read this Thread: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different? (Page 8)

Why do you continue to make GOD look & sound unintelligent? I'm sorry that he isn't as unintelligent as you. Better luck next time... I was made in his image, you can't have been... 1rof1

You insult my GOD's intelligence. You judge too easily. Hence you are selective in your belief system.

Of course there is some types of objective morality which I would subscribe to, but there are some I wouldn't.

I don't believe in killing people... BUT I can understand someone killing someone in self defense. One has to remain a little flexible you know.

I believe in strong anti-discrimination laws... You would be trapped by those laws... I win!

Jesus didn't fully subscribe as he changed some OT laws. He changed "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek.

I object and would oppose your selective morality - does that count? 1rof1

ohyeah
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In regards to the link, nobody ever said we were perfect. But through Jesus we are all cleansed, I didn't see any of that scripture in your thread. Why?

Because its a new covenant, and becoming a Christian doesn't make us better than the next person or elevate us above you to point the finger. We have to leave our sin behind.

And you seem to take the words almost to literally, to such an extreme to you miss the entire point. Don't you do any type of analysis? I mean regarding the Scottish kilts, that is rooted in their tradition. And during the time period in question regarding that scripture they all wore long robes. But clearly men wore men's style robes or something signifying male and female wore female stle. What is the matter with you? Don't you have any common sense?

Of course women can wear jeans and belts hats or whatever other nonsense you said. The point is do not blur the lines and dress according to your gender whatever time period you are in.

Does it make sense now? Can you see your arrogance now?
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Christians dont hate homos! You cant believe everything you read on the internet.

There are many Christian homos out there. Do you think they hate themseleves???? NO!! of course not.

Dont believe the internet or mainstream media. They want to divide and conquer not unite humanity.


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Christians dont hate homos! You cant believe everything you read on the internet.

There are many Christian homos out there. Do you think they hate themseleves???? NO!! of course not.

Dont believe the internet or mainstream media. They want to divide and conquer not unite humanity.


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"Peace-Peace then Comes Sudden Destruction"

to be a friend to the world is to be friends with Sin

God lovers the Sinner, But hates the Sin

Are sins Separate us from a God who can easily empower us to defeat all are Sin problems

Saying that one is a Christian Homosexual is a kin to saying that God doesn't have the power to fix your sexual perversions and twisted fetishes

or worst still saying that God gave you a female brain in a male body or male brain in a female body, that God Made you defective, That really seems like Blaming God For your own Problem

God did No such thing, people choose to openly rebel against themselves, their family's and the natural order of things (The Order which God Created in Eden)

God didn't make anyone Gay just the same as God didn't force anyone to become a Junkie or a Alcoholic, people choose to go through those doors themselves, via their own bad choices, the friends and their influences to them.

People should Google: "Gay bowel syndrome"

just encase people are stupid enough to think being a gay christian is all puppy-dogs, ferry-floss, rainbows and unicorns

Gotta wonder if the Sodomites at Sodom and Gomorrah also Highjacked God's Rainbow Sign for themselves, I bet they did
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UM NO. You can say anything else you want but you cannot say it is a natural thing and get away with it. You sound fairly intelligent so don't try to fool us just because you've fooled yourself on this matter. It might be trendy, it might be cool, it might seem to be the norm these days. But it's not natural.
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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

ohyeah
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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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The "its my body, im not hurting anyone" is the problem, we have been given a body, whether we asked for it or not. Follow the rules the owner has given. The lie is that homosexuals were made that way, its against nature, even evolution. I believe homosexuals have had a life the steered them in that direction and but it doesnt make it right.
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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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I see where your coming from, however it isn't right for men to lay with men and women with women, and no its not natural. However judging someone for any sin is a sin itself. But it is my right to have my opinion. i dont discriminate against anyone, but you also fail your God if you believe that being gay is not a sin and not asking for forgiveness when you sin, he knows we sin.
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It may not be natural for you... Do not judge others... as it isn't natural for me, whatsoever.

You can call it a sin if you choose in regards to yourself, but to say it of others is not your place.

Was it you who said you had tried both earlier. If you managed to try both you are probably bi-sexual. I couldn't try the other... I am totally heterosexual.

So what.. It is how you are.

I will not judge you and I will not call what you did a sin.

If it was you I appreciate your honesty.

peace
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Yes it was me was been with both, and i know it was a sin and thats ok because we all sin, God expects us to sin but he also expects us to admit to our sins and they will be washed away. I know i have no right to judge and i don't judge but as a Christian its our responsibility to correct matters of sin among ourselves fairly and with compassion as stated in Matthew 18.
I think people deserve to be happy and shouldnt be punished for their choices but gays seek support for being gay and want to be accepted, why do you think that is?
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It pisses me off you scribe better English than 99% of Americans.
Maybe we should enroll our kids in Ugandan schools for a better education, Mate.
About male buggery, however, I'm well agnostic about that subject... except to reflect, I'm personally not into slurping shit off a cock. Lesbians, hot!
It's truthfully just the shitty cock that kills the whole thing for me.
I'm a bit of a germ-freak.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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You are so wrong it's mind boggling. And what is worse you wallow in it. And to add insult you tell me I fail my God? My God says it is an abomination, not well if they live each other it's ok.

The reason pedophelia, necrophelia, beastiality are brought up because all are immoral and objectively wrong. Despite what you believe, it is. You can justify it because you have a coalition of gays and activists on your side but it is wrong. They are abominations to The Lord regardless of your opinion.

But again you dodge me continually amazed, do you believe in objective morality?
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I don't dodge you... I just don't like your ugly UnGODLY energy.

I don't like your selective use of the word abomination.

Here re-read this Thread: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different? (Page 8)

Why do you continue to make GOD look & sound unintelligent? I'm sorry that he isn't as unintelligent as you. Better luck next time... I was made in his image, you can't have been... 1rof1

You insult my GOD's intelligence. You judge too easily. Hence you are selective in your belief system.

Of course there is some types of objective morality which I would subscribe to, but there are some I wouldn't.

I don't believe in killing people... BUT I can understand someone killing someone in self defense. One has to remain a little flexible you know.

I believe in strong anti-discrimination laws... You would be trapped by those laws... I win!

Jesus didn't fully subscribe as he changed some OT laws. He changed "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek.

I object and would oppose your selective morality - does that count? 1rof1

ohyeah
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In regards to the link, nobody ever said we were perfect. But through Jesus we are all cleansed, I didn't see any of that scripture in your thread. Why?

Because its a new covenant, and becoming a Christian doesn't make us better than the next person or elevate us above you to point the finger. We have to leave our sin behind.

And you seem to take the words almost to literally, to such an extreme to you miss the entire point. Don't you do any type of analysis? I mean regarding the Scottish kilts, that is rooted in their tradition. And during the time period in question regarding that scripture they all wore long robes. But clearly men wore men's style robes or something signifying male and female wore female stle. What is the matter with you? Don't you have any common sense?

Of course women can wear jeans and belts hats or whatever other nonsense you said. The point is do not blur the lines and dress according to your gender whatever time period you are in.

Does it make sense now? Can you see your arrogance now?
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No but you still don't admit that you are an abomination and yet that is what the Bible says.

But this is typical Bible Babble that you speak and to be honest I am bored. It's kindergarten stuff.

You will be judged as I will be judged and I will be correct and you will be wrong. You have placed the sin of homosexuality as worse than your own sins. I know it, you know it.

If you are saved by the new covenant so are they. The old new covenant stuff is a load of rubbish anyway I just haven't got the time to explain it all and prove it.

So let's just agree to disagree... I am right and I know I'm right, you are wrong and I know you are wrong! AGREED!

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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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I see where your coming from, however it isn't right for men to lay with men and women with women, and no its not natural. However judging someone for any sin is a sin itself. But it is my right to have my opinion. i dont discriminate against anyone, but you also fail your God if you believe that being gay is not a sin and not asking for forgiveness when you sin, he knows we sin.
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It may not be natural for you... Do not judge others... as it isn't natural for me, whatsoever.

You can call it a sin if you choose in regards to yourself, but to say it of others is not your place.

Was it you who said you had tried both earlier. If you managed to try both you are probably bi-sexual. I couldn't try the other... I am totally heterosexual.

So what.. It is how you are.

I will not judge you and I will not call what you did a sin.

If it was you I appreciate your honesty.

peace
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Yes it was me was been with both, and i know it was a sin and thats ok because we all sin, God expects us to sin but he also expects us to admit to our sins and they will be washed away. I know i have no right to judge and i don't judge but as a Christian its our responsibility to correct matters of sin among ourselves fairly and with compassion as stated in Matthew 18.
I think people deserve to be happy and shouldnt be punished for their choices but gays seek support for being gay and want to be accepted, why do you think that is?
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It isn't a choice with homosexuals...

If you of all people can't recognise that then there is no point conversing.

You did what you did...

Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Let him save them. But please stop the silly use of the word choice.

Gays want to be accepted because it is natural to them... If it is natural it is not a sin. If GOD created all things in the Universe he created gayness.

Sorry but believers can't have it both ways! For in a split second GOD could rid the world of all suffering BUT, he chooses not to...

Everyone wants to be accepted... It is human nature.

I simply disagree with all this gay bashing from Chritians... "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"...

That line alone should shut people up... BUT it won't they love to judge and remove the speck from the eye of others.

They dion't really follow Jesus' teachings.

I suggest you try to be different.

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Sorry but you are letting lack of understanding get in the way of your intellect.

I didn't come to these realisations about what is natural or not through some ancient writings or a bigoted guess... I spoke to homosexuals and questioned them.

It was from their answers that I came to my conclusion.

Any reasonable person, not blinded by some dusty old book or bigotry, would come to the same conclusion.

From their earliest memory they were attracted to their own gender the same as you and I were attracted to the opposite sex.

They knew they were gay as I knew I was straight.

Your thinking that it is trendy or cool pretends that homosexuals all choose their sexuality. You are wrong!

If they chose theirs then you chose to be heterosexual.

So how did you make that choice? Did you make love to one of your own gender and choose to be heterosexual?

Of course you didn't... You, if you are fully heterosexual, like me just knew we weren't attracted to our own gender. In my case the thought even was yuck!

So why isn't it the same with homosexuals? Why don't they think of a man and a woman together as yuck?

If sexuality is a choice you have to explain why you decided to be straight. If you have to explain that you are either a closet homosexual or bi-sexual, where maybe you do get a choice.

Under those circumstances, if it isn't choice, it has to be natural. Like it or not.

ohyeah
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does a pedophile choose being attracted children? choice or not homosexuality is wrong, so is sex outside of marriage, so is rape, so is adultery,etc.

beyond the bible Male and female is inbedded in nature.
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I think you meant "embedded in nature" but hey what's a spelling mistake or two...lol

Why do people people always link pedophilia to homosexuality? It is a cheap diversionary tactic.

However, I don't know if a pedophile has a choice. That is at least a reasonable question.

That is not what makes it illegal. As I said above it is the abuse of power to harm someone else or creature that makes Pedophilia, bestiality and other such crimes a crime.

If homosexuality is consenting between two adults, and they have been homosexual all their lives it is natural.

You may not like it, but that is just how it is.

You can twist and turn as much as you like, you can hate the act, you can listen to morons for all that counts, the fact is that with many homosexuals it is how they were made.

If everyone just approached the subject rationally, without the bigotry, they would see I am correct.

Live and let live I say!

Stop discriminating against homosexuals... You fail your GOD by doing it. It is not your right.

ohyeah
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The "its my body, im not hurting anyone" is the problem, we have been given a body, whether we asked for it or not. Follow the rules the owner has given. The lie is that homosexuals were made that way, its against nature, even evolution. I believe homosexuals have had a life the steered them in that direction and but it doesnt make it right.
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Great and some may have... BUT who are you to judge?

Lack of intellect is against nature also... and there is a lot of that on this thread.

1rof1
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As I said earlier Do you guys worship GOD or Worship the Bible?

I got my answer.

Show me a Christian who truly follows Jesus and I will be seeing a very rare Christian.

I haven't seen one here.... Perhaps one will show themselves elsewhere...

If you really believe GOD condoned - Infanticide, rape, murder, animal and human sacrifice, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, torture, stoning, slavery and other atrocities - YOU ARE WRONG!

If you can justify that GOD condoned and committed the atrocities of the Old Testament and the Oppression of Women by Paul in the New Testament then you are a sheep bleeting rubbish and believing rubbish!

Pray for yourself!

You will need lot's of prayer!

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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we differe

You are morally bankrupt, closest man...
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Who will be right with GOD?

It will be me.
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You're not God

He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. (1 John 5:12)

Jesus is the Son of God (1 John 4:15)

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. (Isa. 53:5)

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (1 John 1:8)

For all have sinned (Rom. 3:23)

all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Rev. 21:8)

thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. (Ezek. 33:7)
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I see where your coming from, however it isn't right for men to lay with men and women with women, and no its not natural. However judging someone for any sin is a sin itself. But it is my right to have my opinion. i dont discriminate against anyone, but you also fail your God if you believe that being gay is not a sin and not asking for forgiveness when you sin, he knows we sin.
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It may not be natural for you... Do not judge others... as it isn't natural for me, whatsoever.

You can call it a sin if you choose in regards to yourself, but to say it of others is not your place.

Was it you who said you had tried both earlier. If you managed to try both you are probably bi-sexual. I couldn't try the other... I am totally heterosexual.

So what.. It is how you are.

I will not judge you and I will not call what you did a sin.

If it was you I appreciate your honesty.

peace
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Yes it was me was been with both, and i know it was a sin and thats ok because we all sin, God expects us to sin but he also expects us to admit to our sins and they will be washed away. I know i have no right to judge and i don't judge but as a Christian its our responsibility to correct matters of sin among ourselves fairly and with compassion as stated in Matthew 18.
I think people deserve to be happy and shouldnt be punished for their choices but gays seek support for being gay and want to be accepted, why do you think that is?
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It isn't a choice with homosexuals...

If you of all people can't recognise that then there is no point conversing.

You did what you did...

Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Let him save them. But please stop the silly use of the word choice.

Gays want to be accepted because it is natural to them... If it is natural it is not a sin. If GOD created all things in the Universe he created gayness.

Sorry but believers can't have it both ways! For in a split second GOD could rid the world of all suffering BUT, he chooses not to...

Everyone wants to be accepted... It is human nature.

I simply disagree with all this gay bashing from Chritians... "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"...

That line alone should shut people up... BUT it won't they love to judge and remove the speck from the eye of others.

They dion't really follow Jesus' teachings.

I suggest you try to be different.

hf
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Ok first of all no where in my reply did i gay bash, or cast any stones, so why are you throwing bible quotes at me like i have cast judgment against gays, when clearly i have not. Of course everyone wants to be accepted, but i dont care what you say its not natural for a man to put his penis into the butthole of a man. We all know why God gave us an ass and why he put it in the back, its an exit and it contains fecal bacteria, there is a reason why girls were taught to wipe front to back. Maybe God is choosing to let us end the world by the things we do. I suggest you dont tell people they need to be different, just like you im entitled to my opinion.
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Its not that we hate its more we are feeling bad because if they do not change they shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Hear this I want everyone possible to inherit the kingdom of God but it doesn't matter what I want its what each living soul wants. If they choose to be a homosexual they want not the kingdom of God. I hope and pray that my brothers and sisters who may be homosexual come back to the light of truth and learn the way of life from Jesus Christ. Thank you and I hope you understand and have a good day.
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You are so wrong it's mind boggling. And what is worse you wallow in it. And to add insult you tell me I fail my God? My God says it is an abomination, not well if they live each other it's ok.

The reason pedophelia, necrophelia, beastiality are brought up because all are immoral and objectively wrong. Despite what you believe, it is. You can justify it because you have a coalition of gays and activists on your side but it is wrong. They are abominations to The Lord regardless of your opinion.

But again you dodge me continually amazed, do you believe in objective morality?
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I don't dodge you... I just don't like your ugly UnGODLY energy.

I don't like your selective use of the word abomination.

Here re-read this Thread: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different? (Page 8)

Why do you continue to make GOD look & sound unintelligent? I'm sorry that he isn't as unintelligent as you. Better luck next time... I was made in his image, you can't have been... 1rof1

You insult my GOD's intelligence. You judge too easily. Hence you are selective in your belief system.

Of course there is some types of objective morality which I would subscribe to, but there are some I wouldn't.

I don't believe in killing people... BUT I can understand someone killing someone in self defense. One has to remain a little flexible you know.

I believe in strong anti-discrimination laws... You would be trapped by those laws... I win!

Jesus didn't fully subscribe as he changed some OT laws. He changed "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek.

I object and would oppose your selective morality - does that count? 1rof1

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In regards to the link, nobody ever said we were perfect. But through Jesus we are all cleansed, I didn't see any of that scripture in your thread. Why?

Because its a new covenant, and becoming a Christian doesn't make us better than the next person or elevate us above you to point the finger. We have to leave our sin behind.

And you seem to take the words almost to literally, to such an extreme to you miss the entire point. Don't you do any type of analysis? I mean regarding the Scottish kilts, that is rooted in their tradition. And during the time period in question regarding that scripture they all wore long robes. But clearly men wore men's style robes or something signifying male and female wore female stle. What is the matter with you? Don't you have any common sense?

Of course women can wear jeans and belts hats or whatever other nonsense you said. The point is do not blur the lines and dress according to your gender whatever time period you are in.

Does it make sense now? Can you see your arrogance now?
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No but you still don't admit that you are an abomination and yet that is what the Bible says.

But this is typical Bible Babble that you speak and to be honest I am bored. It's kindergarten stuff.

You will be judged as I will be judged and I will be correct and you will be wrong. You have placed the sin of homosexuality as worse than your own sins. I know it, you know it.

If you are saved by the new covenant so are they. The old new covenant stuff is a load of rubbish anyway I just haven't got the time to explain it all and prove it.

So let's just agree to disagree... I am right and I know I'm right, you are wrong and I know you are wrong! AGREED!

lolsign
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Again you assume so much and i think that is why you are so misled. How do you know what i have and have not done. Again you dont, you just think you do. And as i mentioned you wallow and savor your arrogance. Seriosyl why do yo do it? I hve to know lol.

They can be saved by the new covenant if they get out of homosexuality. Read 1corinthians, that part of the new testament btw. You are lieing to yourself and other when you say its ok. And i hope you havnt told them God says its ok for your sake, repent of that please.

So really you are wrong and i want you to come around to it. Ill praythat ou get the picture sooner rather than later kthnxbyenow
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Homosexuals infringe on the majority to destroy democracy and are part of a larger Marxist agenda.
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I don't dodge you... I just don't like your ugly UnGODLY energy.

I don't like your selective use of the word abomination.

Here re-read this Thread: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different? (Page 8)

Why do you continue to make GOD look & sound unintelligent? I'm sorry that he isn't as unintelligent as you. Better luck next time... I was made in his image, you can't have been... 1rof1

You insult my GOD's intelligence. You judge too easily. Hence you are selective in your belief system.

Of course there is some types of objective morality which I would subscribe to, but there are some I wouldn't.

I don't believe in killing people... BUT I can understand someone killing someone in self defense. One has to remain a little flexible you know.

I believe in strong anti-discrimination laws... You would be trapped by those laws... I win!

Jesus didn't fully subscribe as he changed some OT laws. He changed "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek.

I object and would oppose your selective morality - does that count? 1rof1

ohyeah
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In regards to the link, nobody ever said we were perfect. But through Jesus we are all cleansed, I didn't see any of that scripture in your thread. Why?

Because its a new covenant, and becoming a Christian doesn't make us better than the next person or elevate us above you to point the finger. We have to leave our sin behind.

And you seem to take the words almost to literally, to such an extreme to you miss the entire point. Don't you do any type of analysis? I mean regarding the Scottish kilts, that is rooted in their tradition. And during the time period in question regarding that scripture they all wore long robes. But clearly men wore men's style robes or something signifying male and female wore female stle. What is the matter with you? Don't you have any common sense?

Of course women can wear jeans and belts hats or whatever other nonsense you said. The point is do not blur the lines and dress according to your gender whatever time period you are in.

Does it make sense now? Can you see your arrogance now?
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No but you still don't admit that you are an abomination and yet that is what the Bible says.

But this is typical Bible Babble that you speak and to be honest I am bored. It's kindergarten stuff.

You will be judged as I will be judged and I will be correct and you will be wrong. You have placed the sin of homosexuality as worse than your own sins. I know it, you know it.

If you are saved by the new covenant so are they. The old new covenant stuff is a load of rubbish anyway I just haven't got the time to explain it all and prove it.

So let's just agree to disagree... I am right and I know I'm right, you are wrong and I know you are wrong! AGREED!

lolsign
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Again you assume so much and i think that is why you are so misled. How do you know what i have and have not done. Again you dont, you just think you do. And as i mentioned you wallow and savor your arrogance. Seriosyl why do yo do it? I hve to know lol.

They can be saved by the new covenant if they get out of homosexuality. Read 1corinthians, that part of the new testament btw. You are lieing to yourself and other when you say its ok. And i hope you havnt told them God says its ok for your sake, repent of that please.

So really you are wrong and i want you to come around to it. Ill praythat ou get the picture sooner rather than later kthnxbyenow
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John 3:16
16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life.

Romans 5:8
But God proves his love for us in that while we still were sinners Christ died for us.



Your replying to that last message with slander, by calling them arrogant and a liar. Then saying they need to repent. That's priceless. haha

We can sit here all day posting bible quotes and find something different in several chapters to justify our point. However it all comes down to admitting our sins and being forgiven.
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This is for those who think sexuality is a choice. I was raised a Christian. Church, Sunday school every Sunday. I believed in my heart in God and that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins. I wasn't a "sissy". I did all the stuff any typical guy would do not because I felt I had to but because I enjoyed them...sports, camping, outdoors and all that, yet I didn't do some of the cruel things that even some of my buddies from church did. I'd always tried to do the right thing because I knew that's what Jesus wanted us to do. When I went into puberty I found I was attracted to guys. I knew it was wrong, so I prayed to God, to Jesus...please change me...I don't want to be this way. I prayed and prayed, wondering what it was I had done for God to allow this to happen to me. What did I do wrong? Everyone said what a nice guy I was, but they didn't know what was going on inside. All my buddies were dating, talking about their girlfriends, kissing them, talking about "how far" they could go...even some of my Christian buddies. I knew it was wrong to do some of the things the guys were talking about even if I was 'straight'. But even kissing a girl, I couldn't even do that, because it would have been a lie on my part. They kept asking why I didn't have a girlfriend. I was good looking and had a good built and it would have been no problem for me to "fake it", but I just couldn't do it. Some of the guys were really raunchy...I didn't want to even be associated with guys that did the things they did. So I became withdrawn. And I prayed. I prayed with all my heart for God to change me. It didn't happen and I couldn't figure out why. I even asked God, more than once, "God, you said seek, ye shall find...ask and it will be given unto you...knock and the door will be open unto you. I'm seeking, I'm asking and I'm knocking. Please help me". When that didn't work I asked God to show me where I went wrong, what I had done to be punished this way. Nada. I remembered the foot print in the sands thing, about Jesus carrying me when there were only one set of prints. I prayed on that. Nada. So I decided I'd just live my life...remember the Golden Rule just because that's a decent way to be. And that's where I am now.
So maybe one of you can tell me where I went wrong? What did I do to be 'punished' or whatever you want to call it? Please don't give excuses about my not really being a Christian to begin with. I prayed every night since I was old enough to talk...said the Lord's Prayer, and confessed and asked forgiveness for all my sins...every night without fail. Some of my buddies that were so wild in high school...married with kids and now grand and even great grand kids. I have none of that...and...WHY...??? It wasn't my choice to be gay, but I am. It makes me angry when people say it's a choice. What do you know, having been born heterosexual and then condemning me to hell because I'm not? "Hate the sin, not the sinner"...are you so perfect? Just how sinless are you to judge someone else? I think you don't get it. It's "do unto others as ye would have them do unto you", not "Speak my name and point out others sins because you're so special."
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This is for those who think sexuality is a choice. I was raised a Christian. Church, Sunday school every Sunday. I believed in my heart in God and that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins. I wasn't a "sissy". I did all the stuff any typical guy would do not because I felt I had to but because I enjoyed them...sports, camping, outdoors and all that, yet I didn't do some of the cruel things that even some of my buddies from church did. I'd always tried to do the right thing because I knew that's what Jesus wanted us to do. When I went into puberty I found I was attracted to guys. I knew it was wrong, so I prayed to God, to Jesus...please change me...I don't want to be this way. I prayed and prayed, wondering what it was I had done for God to allow this to happen to me. What did I do wrong? Everyone said what a nice guy I was, but they didn't know what was going on inside. All my buddies were dating, talking about their girlfriends, kissing them, talking about "how far" they could go...even some of my Christian buddies. I knew it was wrong to do some of the things the guys were talking about even if I was 'straight'. But even kissing a girl, I couldn't even do that, because it would have been a lie on my part. They kept asking why I didn't have a girlfriend. I was good looking and had a good built and it would have been no problem for me to "fake it", but I just couldn't do it. Some of the guys were really raunchy...I didn't want to even be associated with guys that did the things they did. So I became withdrawn. And I prayed. I prayed with all my heart for God to change me. It didn't happen and I couldn't figure out why. I even asked God, more than once, "God, you said seek, ye shall find...ask and it will be given unto you...knock and the door will be open unto you. I'm seeking, I'm asking and I'm knocking. Please help me". When that didn't work I asked God to show me where I went wrong, what I had done to be punished this way. Nada. I remembered the foot print in the sands thing, about Jesus carrying me when there were only one set of prints. I prayed on that. Nada. So I decided I'd just live my life...remember the Golden Rule just because that's a decent way to be. And that's where I am now.
So maybe one of you can tell me where I went wrong? What did I do to be 'punished' or whatever you want to call it? Please don't give excuses about my not really being a Christian to begin with. I prayed every night since I was old enough to talk...said the Lord's Prayer, and confessed and asked forgiveness for all my sins...every night without fail. Some of my buddies that were so wild in high school...married with kids and now grand and even great grand kids. I have none of that...and...WHY...??? It wasn't my choice to be gay, but I am. It makes me angry when people say it's a choice. What do you know, having been born heterosexual and then condemning me to hell because I'm not? "Hate the sin, not the sinner"...are you so perfect? Just how sinless are you to judge someone else? I think you don't get it. It's "do unto others as ye would have them do unto you", not "Speak my name and point out others sins because you're so special."
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It may not be natural for you... Do not judge others... as it isn't natural for me, whatsoever.

You can call it a sin if you choose in regards to yourself, but to say it of others is not your place.

Was it you who said you had tried both earlier. If you managed to try both you are probably bi-sexual. I couldn't try the other... I am totally heterosexual.

So what.. It is how you are.

I will not judge you and I will not call what you did a sin.

If it was you I appreciate your honesty.

peace
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Yes it was me was been with both, and i know it was a sin and thats ok because we all sin, God expects us to sin but he also expects us to admit to our sins and they will be washed away. I know i have no right to judge and i don't judge but as a Christian its our responsibility to correct matters of sin among ourselves fairly and with compassion as stated in Matthew 18.
I think people deserve to be happy and shouldnt be punished for their choices but gays seek support for being gay and want to be accepted, why do you think that is?
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It isn't a choice with homosexuals...

If you of all people can't recognise that then there is no point conversing.

You did what you did...

Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Let him save them. But please stop the silly use of the word choice.

Gays want to be accepted because it is natural to them... If it is natural it is not a sin. If GOD created all things in the Universe he created gayness.

Sorry but believers can't have it both ways! For in a split second GOD could rid the world of all suffering BUT, he chooses not to...

Everyone wants to be accepted... It is human nature.

I simply disagree with all this gay bashing from Chritians... "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"...

That line alone should shut people up... BUT it won't they love to judge and remove the speck from the eye of others.

They dion't really follow Jesus' teachings.

I suggest you try to be different.

hf
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Ok first of all no where in my reply did i gay bash, or cast any stones, so why are you throwing bible quotes at me like i have cast judgment against gays, when clearly i have not. Of course everyone wants to be accepted, but i dont care what you say its not natural for a man to put his penis into the butthole of a man. We all know why God gave us an ass and why he put it in the back, its an exit and it contains fecal bacteria, there is a reason why girls were taught to wipe front to back. Maybe God is choosing to let us end the world by the things we do. I suggest you dont tell people they need to be different, just like you im entitled to my opinion.
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Yes you are entitled to your opinion... even though it is wrong. Re-read what I typed and what you typed. You will find I am the reasonable one.

You have shown your true colours.

Why do you have to be so graphic & ugly...

Hang your head in shame!

ohyeah
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In regards to the link, nobody ever said we were perfect. But through Jesus we are all cleansed, I didn't see any of that scripture in your thread. Why?

Because its a new covenant, and becoming a Christian doesn't make us better than the next person or elevate us above you to point the finger. We have to leave our sin behind.

And you seem to take the words almost to literally, to such an extreme to you miss the entire point. Don't you do any type of analysis? I mean regarding the Scottish kilts, that is rooted in their tradition. And during the time period in question regarding that scripture they all wore long robes. But clearly men wore men's style robes or something signifying male and female wore female stle. What is the matter with you? Don't you have any common sense?

Of course women can wear jeans and belts hats or whatever other nonsense you said. The point is do not blur the lines and dress according to your gender whatever time period you are in.

Does it make sense now? Can you see your arrogance now?
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No but you still don't admit that you are an abomination and yet that is what the Bible says.

But this is typical Bible Babble that you speak and to be honest I am bored. It's kindergarten stuff.

You will be judged as I will be judged and I will be correct and you will be wrong. You have placed the sin of homosexuality as worse than your own sins. I know it, you know it.

If you are saved by the new covenant so are they. The old new covenant stuff is a load of rubbish anyway I just haven't got the time to explain it all and prove it.

So let's just agree to disagree... I am right and I know I'm right, you are wrong and I know you are wrong! AGREED!

lolsign
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Again you assume so much and i think that is why you are so misled. How do you know what i have and have not done. Again you dont, you just think you do. And as i mentioned you wallow and savor your arrogance. Seriosyl why do yo do it? I hve to know lol.

They can be saved by the new covenant if they get out of homosexuality. Read 1corinthians, that part of the new testament btw. You are lieing to yourself and other when you say its ok. And i hope you havnt told them God says its ok for your sake, repent of that please.

So really you are wrong and i want you to come around to it. Ill praythat ou get the picture sooner rather than later kthnxbyenow
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John 3:16
16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life.

Romans 5:8
But God proves his love for us in that while we still were sinners Christ died for us.



Your replying to that last message with slander, by calling them arrogant and a liar. Then saying they need to repent. That's priceless. haha

We can sit here all day posting bible quotes and find something different in several chapters to justify our point. However it all comes down to admitting our sins and being forgiven.
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It was priceless... I am pleased to provide you something priceless for free.

So you posted John 3:16... well done... Who is the "him" in John 3:16?

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Yes it was me was been with both, and i know it was a sin and thats ok because we all sin, God expects us to sin but he also expects us to admit to our sins and they will be washed away. I know i have no right to judge and i don't judge but as a Christian its our responsibility to correct matters of sin among ourselves fairly and with compassion as stated in Matthew 18.
I think people deserve to be happy and shouldnt be punished for their choices but gays seek support for being gay and want to be accepted, why do you think that is?
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It isn't a choice with homosexuals...

If you of all people can't recognise that then there is no point conversing.

You did what you did...

Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Let him save them. But please stop the silly use of the word choice.

Gays want to be accepted because it is natural to them... If it is natural it is not a sin. If GOD created all things in the Universe he created gayness.

Sorry but believers can't have it both ways! For in a split second GOD could rid the world of all suffering BUT, he chooses not to...

Everyone wants to be accepted... It is human nature.

I simply disagree with all this gay bashing from Chritians... "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"...

That line alone should shut people up... BUT it won't they love to judge and remove the speck from the eye of others.

They dion't really follow Jesus' teachings.

I suggest you try to be different.

hf
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Ok first of all no where in my reply did i gay bash, or cast any stones, so why are you throwing bible quotes at me like i have cast judgment against gays, when clearly i have not. Of course everyone wants to be accepted, but i dont care what you say its not natural for a man to put his penis into the butthole of a man. We all know why God gave us an ass and why he put it in the back, its an exit and it contains fecal bacteria, there is a reason why girls were taught to wipe front to back. Maybe God is choosing to let us end the world by the things we do. I suggest you dont tell people they need to be different, just like you im entitled to my opinion.
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Yes you are entitled to your opinion... even though it is wrong. Re-read what I typed and what you typed. You will find I am the reasonable one.

You have shown your true colours.

Why do you have to be so graphic & ugly...

Hang your head in shame!

ohyeah
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this poster reeks of a demon possessed 12 year old female harry potter whore (Lev. 20:6)
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Homosexuals infringe on the majority to destroy democracy and are part of a larger Marxist agenda.
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Yeah, what he said. I'm anti -religion and yet, I hate fags, non-bono-type lezzie's are cool though.
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It isn't a choice with homosexuals...

If you of all people can't recognise that then there is no point conversing.

You did what you did...

Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Let him save them. But please stop the silly use of the word choice.

Gays want to be accepted because it is natural to them... If it is natural it is not a sin. If GOD created all things in the Universe he created gayness.

Sorry but believers can't have it both ways! For in a split second GOD could rid the world of all suffering BUT, he chooses not to...

Everyone wants to be accepted... It is human nature.

I simply disagree with all this gay bashing from Chritians... "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"...

That line alone should shut people up... BUT it won't they love to judge and remove the speck from the eye of others.

They dion't really follow Jesus' teachings.

I suggest you try to be different.

hf
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Ok first of all no where in my reply did i gay bash, or cast any stones, so why are you throwing bible quotes at me like i have cast judgment against gays, when clearly i have not. Of course everyone wants to be accepted, but i dont care what you say its not natural for a man to put his penis into the butthole of a man. We all know why God gave us an ass and why he put it in the back, its an exit and it contains fecal bacteria, there is a reason why girls were taught to wipe front to back. Maybe God is choosing to let us end the world by the things we do. I suggest you dont tell people they need to be different, just like you im entitled to my opinion.
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Yes you are entitled to your opinion... even though it is wrong. Re-read what I typed and what you typed. You will find I am the reasonable one.

You have shown your true colours.

Why do you have to be so graphic & ugly...

Hang your head in shame!

ohyeah
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this poster reeks of a demon possessed 12 year old female harry potter whore (Lev. 20:6)
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OUCH! Is that the best you have... GOD must be so proud of the intellect you have shown with your post.

Believers always show their true colours... In their rush to judgement they always fail Jesus' teachings.

AMAZING!

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Yeah, what he said. I'm anti -religion and yet, I hate fags, non-bono-type lezzie's are cool though.
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Quick check under your beds... There is a Rusky homosexual waiting to pounce....

Laughable!

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This is for those who think sexuality is a choice. I was raised a Christian. Church, Sunday school every Sunday. I believed in my heart in God and that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins. I wasn't a "sissy". I did all the stuff any typical guy would do not because I felt I had to but because I enjoyed them...sports, camping, outdoors and all that, yet I didn't do some of the cruel things that even some of my buddies from church did. I'd always tried to do the right thing because I knew that's what Jesus wanted us to do. When I went into puberty I found I was attracted to guys. I knew it was wrong, so I prayed to God, to Jesus...please change me...I don't want to be this way. I prayed and prayed, wondering what it was I had done for God to allow this to happen to me. What did I do wrong? Everyone said what a nice guy I was, but they didn't know what was going on inside. All my buddies were dating, talking about their girlfriends, kissing them, talking about "how far" they could go...even some of my Christian buddies. I knew it was wrong to do some of the things the guys were talking about even if I was 'straight'. But even kissing a girl, I couldn't even do that, because it would have been a lie on my part. They kept asking why I didn't have a girlfriend. I was good looking and had a good built and it would have been no problem for me to "fake it", but I just couldn't do it. Some of the guys were really raunchy...I didn't want to even be associated with guys that did the things they did. So I became withdrawn. And I prayed. I prayed with all my heart for God to change me. It didn't happen and I couldn't figure out why. I even asked God, more than once, "God, you said seek, ye shall find...ask and it will be given unto you...knock and the door will be open unto you. I'm seeking, I'm asking and I'm knocking. Please help me". When that didn't work I asked God to show me where I went wrong, what I had done to be punished this way. Nada. I remembered the foot print in the sands thing, about Jesus carrying me when there were only one set of prints. I prayed on that. Nada. So I decided I'd just live my life...remember the Golden Rule just because that's a decent way to be. And that's where I am now.
So maybe one of you can tell me where I went wrong? What did I do to be 'punished' or whatever you want to call it? Please don't give excuses about my not really being a Christian to begin with. I prayed every night since I was old enough to talk...said the Lord's Prayer, and confessed and asked forgiveness for all my sins...every night without fail. Some of my buddies that were so wild in high school...married with kids and now grand and even great grand kids. I have none of that...and...WHY...??? It wasn't my choice to be gay, but I am. It makes me angry when people say it's a choice. What do you know, having been born heterosexual and then condemning me to hell because I'm not? "Hate the sin, not the sinner"...are you so perfect? Just how sinless are you to judge someone else? I think you don't get it. It's "do unto others as ye would have them do unto you", not "Speak my name and point out others sins because you're so special."
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You didn't do anything wrong at all.

Thank you for your honest testimony.

You are living proof of the points I have been making.

Let's see a Christian treasure and respect your true testimony of proof of their love for their fellow man.

AS I have stated over and over... I don't believe homosexuality is a sin.

Christians bully homosexuals because they judge, they discriminate and they persecute just because homosexuals are different to heterosexuals.

There is absolutely no Christianity in their stance... BUT, they are too blind to realise it.

Stay Strong! I appreciate your openness and honesty.

ohyeah
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Re: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
It's a fact that homosexuals have a much higher rate of mental illness. Homosexuality was considered a mental illness for a reason. Homosexuals claim they have no choice, so do pedophiles, yet pedophilia is still listed as a mental disorder. The APA may have taken homosexuality off the list but the truth remains.
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Ok first of all no where in my reply did i gay bash, or cast any stones, so why are you throwing bible quotes at me like i have cast judgment against gays, when clearly i have not. Of course everyone wants to be accepted, but i dont care what you say its not natural for a man to put his penis into the butthole of a man. We all know why God gave us an ass and why he put it in the back, its an exit and it contains fecal bacteria, there is a reason why girls were taught to wipe front to back. Maybe God is choosing to let us end the world by the things we do. I suggest you dont tell people they need to be different, just like you im entitled to my opinion.
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Yes you are entitled to your opinion... even though it is wrong. Re-read what I typed and what you typed. You will find I am the reasonable one.

You have shown your true colours.

Why do you have to be so graphic & ugly...

Hang your head in shame!

ohyeah
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this poster reeks of a demon possessed 12 year old female harry potter whore (Lev. 20:6)
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OUCH! Is that the best you have... GOD must be so proud of the intellect you have shown with your post.

Believers always show their true colours... In their rush to judgement they always fail Jesus' teachings.

AMAZING!

1rof1
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yep, maybe 11?
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"The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion."
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Yes. And religion is a very important part of some people's lives. The point? Spirituality, which religion stems from, is where we get morals and values from. Some folks just haven't acknowledged it. Some never will. They are what is called "spiritually blind." Fact is, we all are never going to agree on the subject. If acknowledging a creator, a life with consequences, and an afterlife has any meaning whatsoever than those who do have to abide by the laws of that Spirit Creator as best they can. And if homosexuality is plainly stated as being one of the things which are against those "laws" then who are you to question us??? We didn't make up the guidebook. It is what it is. It goes along with the Christian belief, and truth be told, if one is guided internally by that Spirit of God then one does FEEL the wrongness of it in their soul. We have no power to condemn you for it. But we do have the obligation as children of God to uphold His teachings. People on your side of the aisle state that it must be okay with God because it's natural. They are Born that way, didn't choose it. I have news for you...you're very wrong. People are Born with physical and mental disabilities and diseases. It is not "natural" it's abnormal. But it is prevalent. People are born with feelings of envy, anger, vindictiveness. People are born with the capacity to lie, steal, wound, cheat. It is whether or not you act on them that matters. Let's say someone is "born" with sexual feelings towards children, had them ever since puberty, and acted on those feelings. They'd be a pedophile, ostracized in society, and if caught, jailed. Point is, while it might be NATURAL within the human realm for some people to be attracted to same sex, that does NOT mean society should accept the acting out of it. Why the heck do you think people stayed in the "closet" in the decades previous? Why was it shunned by polite society? Because it was considered shameful and a perversion. You may argue that people had no right to feel that way but the majority did. Ask yourself why? So you see why some say embracing homosexuality is leading us down a slippery slope. The fact that it's happening is proof that people are becoming spiritually deceived. So deceived in fact that they can no longer comprehend why anyone would say there's anything wrong with homosexuality.
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This is for those who think sexuality is a choice. I was raised a Christian. Church, Sunday school every Sunday. I believed in my heart in God and that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins. I wasn't a "sissy". I did all the stuff any typical guy would do not because I felt I had to but because I enjoyed them...sports, camping, outdoors and all that, yet I didn't do some of the cruel things that even some of my buddies from church did. I'd always tried to do the right thing because I knew that's what Jesus wanted us to do. When I went into puberty I found I was attracted to guys. I knew it was wrong, so I prayed to God, to Jesus...please change me...I don't want to be this way. I prayed and prayed, wondering what it was I had done for God to allow this to happen to me. What did I do wrong? Everyone said what a nice guy I was, but they didn't know what was going on inside. All my buddies were dating, talking about their girlfriends, kissing them, talking about "how far" they could go...even some of my Christian buddies. I knew it was wrong to do some of the things the guys were talking about even if I was 'straight'. But even kissing a girl, I couldn't even do that, because it would have been a lie on my part. They kept asking why I didn't have a girlfriend. I was good looking and had a good built and it would have been no problem for me to "fake it", but I just couldn't do it. Some of the guys were really raunchy...I didn't want to even be associated with guys that did the things they did. So I became withdrawn. And I prayed. I prayed with all my heart for God to change me. It didn't happen and I couldn't figure out why. I even asked God, more than once, "God, you said seek, ye shall find...ask and it will be given unto you...knock and the door will be open unto you. I'm seeking, I'm asking and I'm knocking. Please help me". When that didn't work I asked God to show me where I went wrong, what I had done to be punished this way. Nada. I remembered the foot print in the sands thing, about Jesus carrying me when there were only one set of prints. I prayed on that. Nada. So I decided I'd just live my life...remember the Golden Rule just because that's a decent way to be. And that's where I am now.
So maybe one of you can tell me where I went wrong? What did I do to be 'punished' or whatever you want to call it? Please don't give excuses about my not really being a Christian to begin with. I prayed every night since I was old enough to talk...said the Lord's Prayer, and confessed and asked forgiveness for all my sins...every night without fail. Some of my buddies that were so wild in high school...married with kids and now grand and even great grand kids. I have none of that...and...WHY...??? It wasn't my choice to be gay, but I am. It makes me angry when people say it's a choice. What do you know, having been born heterosexual and then condemning me to hell because I'm not? "Hate the sin, not the sinner"...are you so perfect? Just how sinless are you to judge someone else? I think you don't get it. It's "do unto others as ye would have them do unto you", not "Speak my name and point out others sins because you're so special."
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You didn't do anything wrong at all.

Thank you for your honest testimony.

You are living proof of the points I have been making.

Let's see a Christian treasure and respect your true testimony of proof of their love for their fellow man.

AS I have stated over and over... I don't believe homosexuality is a sin.

Christians bully homosexuals because they judge, they discriminate and they persecute just because homosexuals are different to heterosexuals.

There is absolutely no Christianity in their stance... BUT, they are too blind to realise it.

Stay Strong! I appreciate your openness and honesty.

ohyeah
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661


Thanks for the support. I didn't intend the post at you, but those who say sexuality is a choice and that homosexuality is wrong. Any abuse of sex (or anything else) is wrong.
That said, I still firmly in the Golden Rule. I'm sure you do, too.
Peace and love to you.

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