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Christians dont hate homos! You cant believe everything you read on the internet.

There are many Christian homos out there. Do you think they hate themseleves???? NO!! of course not.

Dont believe the internet or mainstream media. They want to divide and conquer not unite humanity.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1743891


"Peace-Peace then Comes Sudden Destruction"

to be a friend to the world is to be friends with Sin

God lovers the Sinner, But hates the Sin

Are sins Separate us from a God who can easily empower us to defeat all are Sin problems

Saying that one is a Christian Homosexual is a kin to saying that God doesn't have the power to fix your sexual perversions and twisted fetishes

or worst still saying that God gave you a female brain in a male body or male brain in a female body, that God Made you defective, That really seems like Blaming God For your own Problem

God did No such thing, people choose to openly rebel against themselves, their family's and the natural order of things (The Order which God Created in Eden)

God didn't make anyone Gay just the same as God didn't force anyone to become a Junkie or a Alcoholic, people choose to go through those doors themselves, via their own bad choices, the friends and their influences to them.

People should Google: "Gay bowel syndrome"

just encase people are stupid enough to think being a gay christian is all puppy-dogs, ferry-floss, rainbows and unicorns

Gotta wonder if the Sodomites at Sodom and Gomorrah also Highjacked God's Rainbow Sign for themselves, I bet they did
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God loves the Sinner but hates the sin is another one of those stupid cliche's that people use, like God works in mysterious ways.

You need to go back to your Bible. GOD made everything... GOD makes some people gay. It is natural for them.

Could it be GOD makes gays as a test for his imbecilic followers, to see if they will oppress and discriminate against them? it's a great test because they continually fail the test.

Of course someone can be a homosexual Christian, there are imbecilic Christians, there are lying Christians, there are dishonest Christians, there are unknowing Christians, there are starving Christians, there are homeless Christians and GOD doesn't fix there plight... does he?

Has GOD fixed your lack of intellect?

You relating homosexuality to alcoholism and drug addiction proves my point.

Did GOD make you heterosexual or are you bi-sexual and choose to ignore your attraction to your own gender?

Here read an analysis of the story of LOT ... IT is absolute rubbish but you didn't have the intellect to notice.

I think we have categorically proved, that many Christians, will use any method, so that they can put themselves into a position of judging others, thereby going against Jesus' precise teachings, BUT, what does the Bible say about homosexuality really.

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another"

Does homophobic bigotry destroy this verse?

So let's start with LOT.

Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where (are) the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Firstly to know them is often misrepresented as to have sex with them. Whose got the smutty mind with that interpretation?

This story makes no sense whatsoever!

The alleged angels in the story couldn't protect themselves against these alleged ravaging hoards?... Some angels!

Even though this story is a load of rubbish let's continue.

LOT does something far worse. To allegedly protect the supposed angels he offers his virgin daughters instead.

Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as (is) good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

What? To be raped by homosexuals?

Why didn't LOT just offer himself? Surely he was better bait than the daughters.

Why didn't LOT offer his wife?

I wonder what GOD would truly think of someone sacrificing up their daughters in such a terrible way?

Furthermore if the hoards were homosexual why would two virgin women distract them? It makes no sense.

Now to Moses' rubbish laws on this subject. Remember MOSES is the one who just told you that crazy LOT story.

Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."


These might be fine if it wasn't for the other crazy laws of MOSES. Like this one

Deuteronomy22:20-21 2 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.


Stoning a woman who doesn't bleed on her wedding night, come on now, this is crazy. What if the husband and wife had made love before the wedding? She would have been stoned and he would have been set free!... AMAZING!

This means GOD knows nothing about the woman's body as a woman's hymen can break for many reasons, other than sex. Is GOD this dumb?

Are you accepting he designs a woman and doesn't understand the physiology? Really?

But also, if you choose to believe and oppress homosexuals because of these passages, why aren't you checking bride's bed sheets and punishing them still?

Sure, Jesus said not to stone people but you judgmental, punishing believers should be able to come up with some imaginative bullying system for the bride.

Ah selective Believers pick and choose who to discriminate against. Jesus didn't undo the checking of the sheets bit... did he?

What about the male? What if he wasn't a virgin? What punishment did he face... Oh that's right NONE!

That's right the writers of the Bible are oppressing women again.

Study Moses' ridiculous laws and you have to know they aren't from GOD.

Or this one

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

WHAT? A woman is forced to marry her rapist as long as the rapist pays the father 50 fifty shekels of silver! Oh that's right women were only property like cattle in those days.

How could GOD approve of such a disgusting law?

Would you submit your daughter to such an horrific law?

Would you sell your raped daughter out for money?

Wouldn't this law encourage wealthy males to be above the law?

GOD DID NOT APPROVE OF SUCH THINGS!

LOOK! I could go on and on about the other occurances, the translatory errors and why only the women are punished for not being virgins... but anyone can see Mosaic Law is a farce.

I could pull out all the unGODly teachings by MOSES. I could go through the other disgusting verses, one by one, but surely you can see I'm right.

If you dislike homosexuals fine... BUT, you have no right to judge them, no right to bully them, and you as a believer cannot be a bigot!

Or are you saying JESUS taught the bigotry in your hearts?

WAKE UP! You demean GOD by accepting this stuff as "approved by GOD".

Remember it is MAD MOSES that is telling this tale.

This is all from Genesis 19

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

So LOT goes to the mountains with his two daughters because he is afraid to live in Zoar.

He has just been helped by angels and GOD but he is still scared.

Now for the ultimate rubbish twist in the story.

Genesis 19:32-33 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

WHAT? Surely this can't be true. That poor LOT taken advantage of by his horrid virgin daughters, and when he was drunk, no less.

REALLY? Come on now... More likely LOT having no wife got drunk and raped his daughters.

BUT remember women were like possessions. Who would listen to a woman?

Luckily for LOT no-one!

So here we have the possibility of a terrible crime committed against the young women, by their father, and the story possibly twisted to protect the male.

Genesis 19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

What is the more likely scenario? Ever been drunk? He was so drunk he knew absolutely nothing about it? TWICE!

The same thing happened on the following night and he wasn't aware?

Give me a break!

How do people believe this rubbish without questioning what is a more likely scenario?

Anyone want to discuss how you allowed these women's names to be blackened when it was probably the other way around, and LOT was a creep?

Keep thinking! You haven't got things correct yet!

shark
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661


Do you realize that there are many Christians who worship God the Father and value the teachings of His son Jesus Christ? Never mind the stories of the Old Testament. It is the New Testament that is relevant today. There were no Christians in the Old Testament. "Christ"ianity came after Christ. And He did say a man should not lie with another man as he does with a woman. You're pointing out that the OT is corrupted.
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Do YOU represent your GOD well?
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661
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And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:3)

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (John 8:44)

all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Rev. 21:8)


Jesus is not threatening you, God came to save you from what you deserve. The wicked always accuse Jesus, the living Word, of threatening them, just as a pedophile would accuse a cop who would arrest him.


He that hath the Son hath life (1 John 5:12)

if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:24)

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life (Deut. 30:19)

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I missed that you actually made a comment. OMG did you finally grow a spine?

I didn't say JESUS is threatening me... I said YOU are using Bible quotes to threaten me.

1. YOU therefore fail comprehension 101... AGAIN!

2. YOU bear false witness therefore failing Christianity 101 again.

3. And in using these quotes wrongly, you are misrepresenting GOD, again.

Let me explain your lack of knowing.

In John 8:44 he was speaking to some teachers of the law and some Pharisees. I am not Jewish... I do not teach law ... and I am not a Pharisee.

BUT, what I am is the one here who is defending JESUS and GOD against false teachings of men, and you in particular about using Bible quotes wrongly to blur and confuse.

You may just be a new breed of non-Jewish Pharisee. Haven't you got a few logs in your own eye you should be looking at removing? 1rof1

1 John 4:3 he is talking about spirits... Do you know the difference?

I have heard many people confess their GODly beliefs and that Jesus is of GOD but then keep breaking the commandments anyway. Do the Mafia members go to Church? Have the Churches committed crimes?

Do they confess Jesus is of GOD? Yep! The criteria is therefore flawed.

I confess JESUS is of GOD. That just shot you in the foot! 1rof1

SO answer me this seeing you have grown a spine

Do you really believe GOD condoned - Infanticide, rape, murder, animal and human sacrifice, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, torture, stoning, slavery and other atrocities?

Can you state clearly that you believe 100% that that GOD/JESUS condoned and sometimes committed the atrocities of the Old Testament and the Oppression of Women by Paul in the New Testament?

As a believer GOD should help you with the answer!

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Christians dont hate homos! You cant believe everything you read on the internet.

There are many Christian homos out there. Do you think they hate themseleves???? NO!! of course not.

Dont believe the internet or mainstream media. They want to divide and conquer not unite humanity.


Peace and safety!
peace hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1743891


"Peace-Peace then Comes Sudden Destruction"

to be a friend to the world is to be friends with Sin

God lovers the Sinner, But hates the Sin

Are sins Separate us from a God who can easily empower us to defeat all are Sin problems

Saying that one is a Christian Homosexual is a kin to saying that God doesn't have the power to fix your sexual perversions and twisted fetishes

or worst still saying that God gave you a female brain in a male body or male brain in a female body, that God Made you defective, That really seems like Blaming God For your own Problem

God did No such thing, people choose to openly rebel against themselves, their family's and the natural order of things (The Order which God Created in Eden)

God didn't make anyone Gay just the same as God didn't force anyone to become a Junkie or a Alcoholic, people choose to go through those doors themselves, via their own bad choices, the friends and their influences to them.

People should Google: "Gay bowel syndrome"

just encase people are stupid enough to think being a gay christian is all puppy-dogs, ferry-floss, rainbows and unicorns

Gotta wonder if the Sodomites at Sodom and Gomorrah also Highjacked God's Rainbow Sign for themselves, I bet they did
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39394559


God loves the Sinner but hates the sin is another one of those stupid cliche's that people use, like God works in mysterious ways.

You need to go back to your Bible. GOD made everything... GOD makes some people gay. It is natural for them.

Could it be GOD makes gays as a test for his imbecilic followers, to see if they will oppress and discriminate against them? it's a great test because they continually fail the test.

Of course someone can be a homosexual Christian, there are imbecilic Christians, there are lying Christians, there are dishonest Christians, there are unknowing Christians, there are starving Christians, there are homeless Christians and GOD doesn't fix there plight... does he?

Has GOD fixed your lack of intellect?

You relating homosexuality to alcoholism and drug addiction proves my point.

Did GOD make you heterosexual or are you bi-sexual and choose to ignore your attraction to your own gender?

Here read an analysis of the story of LOT ... IT is absolute rubbish but you didn't have the intellect to notice.

I think we have categorically proved, that many Christians, will use any method, so that they can put themselves into a position of judging others, thereby going against Jesus' precise teachings, BUT, what does the Bible say about homosexuality really.

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another"

Does homophobic bigotry destroy this verse?

So let's start with LOT.

Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where (are) the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Firstly to know them is often misrepresented as to have sex with them. Whose got the smutty mind with that interpretation?

This story makes no sense whatsoever!

The alleged angels in the story couldn't protect themselves against these alleged ravaging hoards?... Some angels!

Even though this story is a load of rubbish let's continue.

LOT does something far worse. To allegedly protect the supposed angels he offers his virgin daughters instead.

Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as (is) good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

What? To be raped by homosexuals?

Why didn't LOT just offer himself? Surely he was better bait than the daughters.

Why didn't LOT offer his wife?

I wonder what GOD would truly think of someone sacrificing up their daughters in such a terrible way?

Furthermore if the hoards were homosexual why would two virgin women distract them? It makes no sense.

Now to Moses' rubbish laws on this subject. Remember MOSES is the one who just told you that crazy LOT story.

Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."


These might be fine if it wasn't for the other crazy laws of MOSES. Like this one

Deuteronomy22:20-21 2 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.


Stoning a woman who doesn't bleed on her wedding night, come on now, this is crazy. What if the husband and wife had made love before the wedding? She would have been stoned and he would have been set free!... AMAZING!

This means GOD knows nothing about the woman's body as a woman's hymen can break for many reasons, other than sex. Is GOD this dumb?

Are you accepting he designs a woman and doesn't understand the physiology? Really?

But also, if you choose to believe and oppress homosexuals because of these passages, why aren't you checking bride's bed sheets and punishing them still?

Sure, Jesus said not to stone people but you judgmental, punishing believers should be able to come up with some imaginative bullying system for the bride.

Ah selective Believers pick and choose who to discriminate against. Jesus didn't undo the checking of the sheets bit... did he?

What about the male? What if he wasn't a virgin? What punishment did he face... Oh that's right NONE!

That's right the writers of the Bible are oppressing women again.

Study Moses' ridiculous laws and you have to know they aren't from GOD.

Or this one

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

WHAT? A woman is forced to marry her rapist as long as the rapist pays the father 50 fifty shekels of silver! Oh that's right women were only property like cattle in those days.

How could GOD approve of such a disgusting law?

Would you submit your daughter to such an horrific law?

Would you sell your raped daughter out for money?

Wouldn't this law encourage wealthy males to be above the law?

GOD DID NOT APPROVE OF SUCH THINGS!

LOOK! I could go on and on about the other occurances, the translatory errors and why only the women are punished for not being virgins... but anyone can see Mosaic Law is a farce.

I could pull out all the unGODly teachings by MOSES. I could go through the other disgusting verses, one by one, but surely you can see I'm right.

If you dislike homosexuals fine... BUT, you have no right to judge them, no right to bully them, and you as a believer cannot be a bigot!

Or are you saying JESUS taught the bigotry in your hearts?

WAKE UP! You demean GOD by accepting this stuff as "approved by GOD".

Remember it is MAD MOSES that is telling this tale.

This is all from Genesis 19

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

So LOT goes to the mountains with his two daughters because he is afraid to live in Zoar.

He has just been helped by angels and GOD but he is still scared.

Now for the ultimate rubbish twist in the story.

Genesis 19:32-33 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

WHAT? Surely this can't be true. That poor LOT taken advantage of by his horrid virgin daughters, and when he was drunk, no less.

REALLY? Come on now... More likely LOT having no wife got drunk and raped his daughters.

BUT remember women were like possessions. Who would listen to a woman?

Luckily for LOT no-one!

So here we have the possibility of a terrible crime committed against the young women, by their father, and the story possibly twisted to protect the male.

Genesis 19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

What is the more likely scenario? Ever been drunk? He was so drunk he knew absolutely nothing about it? TWICE!

The same thing happened on the following night and he wasn't aware?

Give me a break!

How do people believe this rubbish without questioning what is a more likely scenario?

Anyone want to discuss how you allowed these women's names to be blackened when it was probably the other way around, and LOT was a creep?

Keep thinking! You haven't got things correct yet!

shark
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661


Do you realize that there are many Christians who worship God the Father and value the teachings of His son Jesus Christ? Never mind the stories of the Old Testament. It is the New Testament that is relevant today. There were no Christians in the Old Testament. "Christ"ianity came after Christ. And He did say a man should not lie with another man as he does with a woman. You're pointing out that the OT is corrupted.
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YES, of course I realise that. BUT show me a Church that doesn't preach the OT as well.

Where does Jesus say in the New Testament "a man should not lie with another man as he does with a woman"?

You have made the statement now prove it!

Furthermore... if the OT is flawed then the Bible cannot be the inerrant word of GOD.

Proving another lie told by people who would call themselves believers.

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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
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Christians dont hate homos! You cant believe everything you read on the internet.

There are many Christian homos out there. Do you think they hate themseleves???? NO!! of course not.

Dont believe the internet or mainstream media. They want to divide and conquer not unite humanity.


Peace and safety!
peace hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1743891


"Peace-Peace then Comes Sudden Destruction"

to be a friend to the world is to be friends with Sin

God lovers the Sinner, But hates the Sin

Are sins Separate us from a God who can easily empower us to defeat all are Sin problems

Saying that one is a Christian Homosexual is a kin to saying that God doesn't have the power to fix your sexual perversions and twisted fetishes

or worst still saying that God gave you a female brain in a male body or male brain in a female body, that God Made you defective, That really seems like Blaming God For your own Problem

God did No such thing, people choose to openly rebel against themselves, their family's and the natural order of things (The Order which God Created in Eden)

God didn't make anyone Gay just the same as God didn't force anyone to become a Junkie or a Alcoholic, people choose to go through those doors themselves, via their own bad choices, the friends and their influences to them.

People should Google: "Gay bowel syndrome"

just encase people are stupid enough to think being a gay christian is all puppy-dogs, ferry-floss, rainbows and unicorns

Gotta wonder if the Sodomites at Sodom and Gomorrah also Highjacked God's Rainbow Sign for themselves, I bet they did
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God loves the Sinner but hates the sin is another one of those stupid cliche's that people use, like God works in mysterious ways.

You need to go back to your Bible. GOD made everything... GOD makes some people gay. It is natural for them.

Could it be GOD makes gays as a test for his imbecilic followers, to see if they will oppress and discriminate against them? it's a great test because they continually fail the test.

Of course someone can be a homosexual Christian, there are imbecilic Christians, there are lying Christians, there are dishonest Christians, there are unknowing Christians, there are starving Christians, there are homeless Christians and GOD doesn't fix there plight... does he?

Has GOD fixed your lack of intellect?

You relating homosexuality to alcoholism and drug addiction proves my point.

Did GOD make you heterosexual or are you bi-sexual and choose to ignore your attraction to your own gender?

Here read an analysis of the story of LOT ... IT is absolute rubbish but you didn't have the intellect to notice.

I think we have categorically proved, that many Christians, will use any method, so that they can put themselves into a position of judging others, thereby going against Jesus' precise teachings, BUT, what does the Bible say about homosexuality really.

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another"

Does homophobic bigotry destroy this verse?

So let's start with LOT.

Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where (are) the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Firstly to know them is often misrepresented as to have sex with them. Whose got the smutty mind with that interpretation?

This story makes no sense whatsoever!

The alleged angels in the story couldn't protect themselves against these alleged ravaging hoards?... Some angels!

Even though this story is a load of rubbish let's continue.

LOT does something far worse. To allegedly protect the supposed angels he offers his virgin daughters instead.

Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as (is) good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

What? To be raped by homosexuals?

Why didn't LOT just offer himself? Surely he was better bait than the daughters.

Why didn't LOT offer his wife?

I wonder what GOD would truly think of someone sacrificing up their daughters in such a terrible way?

Furthermore if the hoards were homosexual why would two virgin women distract them? It makes no sense.

Now to Moses' rubbish laws on this subject. Remember MOSES is the one who just told you that crazy LOT story.

Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."


These might be fine if it wasn't for the other crazy laws of MOSES. Like this one

Deuteronomy22:20-21 2 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.


Stoning a woman who doesn't bleed on her wedding night, come on now, this is crazy. What if the husband and wife had made love before the wedding? She would have been stoned and he would have been set free!... AMAZING!

This means GOD knows nothing about the woman's body as a woman's hymen can break for many reasons, other than sex. Is GOD this dumb?

Are you accepting he designs a woman and doesn't understand the physiology? Really?

But also, if you choose to believe and oppress homosexuals because of these passages, why aren't you checking bride's bed sheets and punishing them still?

Sure, Jesus said not to stone people but you judgmental, punishing believers should be able to come up with some imaginative bullying system for the bride.

Ah selective Believers pick and choose who to discriminate against. Jesus didn't undo the checking of the sheets bit... did he?

What about the male? What if he wasn't a virgin? What punishment did he face... Oh that's right NONE!

That's right the writers of the Bible are oppressing women again.

Study Moses' ridiculous laws and you have to know they aren't from GOD.

Or this one

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

WHAT? A woman is forced to marry her rapist as long as the rapist pays the father 50 fifty shekels of silver! Oh that's right women were only property like cattle in those days.

How could GOD approve of such a disgusting law?

Would you submit your daughter to such an horrific law?

Would you sell your raped daughter out for money?

Wouldn't this law encourage wealthy males to be above the law?

GOD DID NOT APPROVE OF SUCH THINGS!

LOOK! I could go on and on about the other occurances, the translatory errors and why only the women are punished for not being virgins... but anyone can see Mosaic Law is a farce.

I could pull out all the unGODly teachings by MOSES. I could go through the other disgusting verses, one by one, but surely you can see I'm right.

If you dislike homosexuals fine... BUT, you have no right to judge them, no right to bully them, and you as a believer cannot be a bigot!

Or are you saying JESUS taught the bigotry in your hearts?

WAKE UP! You demean GOD by accepting this stuff as "approved by GOD".

Remember it is MAD MOSES that is telling this tale.

This is all from Genesis 19

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

So LOT goes to the mountains with his two daughters because he is afraid to live in Zoar.

He has just been helped by angels and GOD but he is still scared.

Now for the ultimate rubbish twist in the story.

Genesis 19:32-33 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

WHAT? Surely this can't be true. That poor LOT taken advantage of by his horrid virgin daughters, and when he was drunk, no less.

REALLY? Come on now... More likely LOT having no wife got drunk and raped his daughters.

BUT remember women were like possessions. Who would listen to a woman?

Luckily for LOT no-one!

So here we have the possibility of a terrible crime committed against the young women, by their father, and the story possibly twisted to protect the male.

Genesis 19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

What is the more likely scenario? Ever been drunk? He was so drunk he knew absolutely nothing about it? TWICE!

The same thing happened on the following night and he wasn't aware?

Give me a break!

How do people believe this rubbish without questioning what is a more likely scenario?

Anyone want to discuss how you allowed these women's names to be blackened when it was probably the other way around, and LOT was a creep?

Keep thinking! You haven't got things correct yet!

shark
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Do you realize that there are many Christians who worship God the Father and value the teachings of His son Jesus Christ? Never mind the stories of the Old Testament. It is the New Testament that is relevant today. There were no Christians in the Old Testament. "Christ"ianity came after Christ. And He did say a man should not lie with another man as he does with a woman. You're pointing out that the OT is corrupted.
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You say never mind the OT because it's irrelevant, then you say he pointed out that the OT is corrupted (interesting...by what means?), that the NT is what's relevant today. That makes no sense because if the OT is corrupted and irrelevant why refer to it?
Besides, the 10 commandments are in the OT...do you stand by them? And if so, you DO know that the 10 commandments are part of THE LAW which Moses brought down from the mountain...of which there are 613 commandments. Among them...not eating shellfish, stoning to death unruly children and forbidding the wearing linen and wool at the same time to worship. Ever observe any of those?
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A Christian would not hate homosexuals. To be Christian means to live like Christ, to spread love. You talk about the bibletards that are not able to or stopped thinking.
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Hmmm... Should I have called them Bibletards then? Good point.
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depends on how you wish to be judged hereupon

regarding the premise of your own doings

if you find yourself worthy of sitting in judgment

namecalling, and the like

you'd best be prepared to be judged accordingly

when truth reigns supreme
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"Peace-Peace then Comes Sudden Destruction"

to be a friend to the world is to be friends with Sin

God lovers the Sinner, But hates the Sin

Are sins Separate us from a God who can easily empower us to defeat all are Sin problems

Saying that one is a Christian Homosexual is a kin to saying that God doesn't have the power to fix your sexual perversions and twisted fetishes

or worst still saying that God gave you a female brain in a male body or male brain in a female body, that God Made you defective, That really seems like Blaming God For your own Problem

God did No such thing, people choose to openly rebel against themselves, their family's and the natural order of things (The Order which God Created in Eden)

God didn't make anyone Gay just the same as God didn't force anyone to become a Junkie or a Alcoholic, people choose to go through those doors themselves, via their own bad choices, the friends and their influences to them.

People should Google: "Gay bowel syndrome"

just encase people are stupid enough to think being a gay christian is all puppy-dogs, ferry-floss, rainbows and unicorns

Gotta wonder if the Sodomites at Sodom and Gomorrah also Highjacked God's Rainbow Sign for themselves, I bet they did
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God loves the Sinner but hates the sin is another one of those stupid cliche's that people use, like God works in mysterious ways.

You need to go back to your Bible. GOD made everything... GOD makes some people gay. It is natural for them.

Could it be GOD makes gays as a test for his imbecilic followers, to see if they will oppress and discriminate against them? it's a great test because they continually fail the test.

Of course someone can be a homosexual Christian, there are imbecilic Christians, there are lying Christians, there are dishonest Christians, there are unknowing Christians, there are starving Christians, there are homeless Christians and GOD doesn't fix there plight... does he?

Has GOD fixed your lack of intellect?

You relating homosexuality to alcoholism and drug addiction proves my point.

Did GOD make you heterosexual or are you bi-sexual and choose to ignore your attraction to your own gender?

Here read an analysis of the story of LOT ... IT is absolute rubbish but you didn't have the intellect to notice.

I think we have categorically proved, that many Christians, will use any method, so that they can put themselves into a position of judging others, thereby going against Jesus' precise teachings, BUT, what does the Bible say about homosexuality really.

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another"

Does homophobic bigotry destroy this verse?

So let's start with LOT.

Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where (are) the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Firstly to know them is often misrepresented as to have sex with them. Whose got the smutty mind with that interpretation?

This story makes no sense whatsoever!

The alleged angels in the story couldn't protect themselves against these alleged ravaging hoards?... Some angels!

Even though this story is a load of rubbish let's continue.

LOT does something far worse. To allegedly protect the supposed angels he offers his virgin daughters instead.

Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as (is) good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

What? To be raped by homosexuals?

Why didn't LOT just offer himself? Surely he was better bait than the daughters.

Why didn't LOT offer his wife?

I wonder what GOD would truly think of someone sacrificing up their daughters in such a terrible way?

Furthermore if the hoards were homosexual why would two virgin women distract them? It makes no sense.

Now to Moses' rubbish laws on this subject. Remember MOSES is the one who just told you that crazy LOT story.

Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."


These might be fine if it wasn't for the other crazy laws of MOSES. Like this one

Deuteronomy22:20-21 2 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.


Stoning a woman who doesn't bleed on her wedding night, come on now, this is crazy. What if the husband and wife had made love before the wedding? She would have been stoned and he would have been set free!... AMAZING!

This means GOD knows nothing about the woman's body as a woman's hymen can break for many reasons, other than sex. Is GOD this dumb?

Are you accepting he designs a woman and doesn't understand the physiology? Really?

But also, if you choose to believe and oppress homosexuals because of these passages, why aren't you checking bride's bed sheets and punishing them still?

Sure, Jesus said not to stone people but you judgmental, punishing believers should be able to come up with some imaginative bullying system for the bride.

Ah selective Believers pick and choose who to discriminate against. Jesus didn't undo the checking of the sheets bit... did he?

What about the male? What if he wasn't a virgin? What punishment did he face... Oh that's right NONE!

That's right the writers of the Bible are oppressing women again.

Study Moses' ridiculous laws and you have to know they aren't from GOD.

Or this one

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

WHAT? A woman is forced to marry her rapist as long as the rapist pays the father 50 fifty shekels of silver! Oh that's right women were only property like cattle in those days.

How could GOD approve of such a disgusting law?

Would you submit your daughter to such an horrific law?

Would you sell your raped daughter out for money?

Wouldn't this law encourage wealthy males to be above the law?

GOD DID NOT APPROVE OF SUCH THINGS!

LOOK! I could go on and on about the other occurances, the translatory errors and why only the women are punished for not being virgins... but anyone can see Mosaic Law is a farce.

I could pull out all the unGODly teachings by MOSES. I could go through the other disgusting verses, one by one, but surely you can see I'm right.

If you dislike homosexuals fine... BUT, you have no right to judge them, no right to bully them, and you as a believer cannot be a bigot!

Or are you saying JESUS taught the bigotry in your hearts?

WAKE UP! You demean GOD by accepting this stuff as "approved by GOD".

Remember it is MAD MOSES that is telling this tale.

This is all from Genesis 19

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

So LOT goes to the mountains with his two daughters because he is afraid to live in Zoar.

He has just been helped by angels and GOD but he is still scared.

Now for the ultimate rubbish twist in the story.

Genesis 19:32-33 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

WHAT? Surely this can't be true. That poor LOT taken advantage of by his horrid virgin daughters, and when he was drunk, no less.

REALLY? Come on now... More likely LOT having no wife got drunk and raped his daughters.

BUT remember women were like possessions. Who would listen to a woman?

Luckily for LOT no-one!

So here we have the possibility of a terrible crime committed against the young women, by their father, and the story possibly twisted to protect the male.

Genesis 19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

What is the more likely scenario? Ever been drunk? He was so drunk he knew absolutely nothing about it? TWICE!

The same thing happened on the following night and he wasn't aware?

Give me a break!

How do people believe this rubbish without questioning what is a more likely scenario?

Anyone want to discuss how you allowed these women's names to be blackened when it was probably the other way around, and LOT was a creep?

Keep thinking! You haven't got things correct yet!

shark
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Do you realize that there are many Christians who worship God the Father and value the teachings of His son Jesus Christ? Never mind the stories of the Old Testament. It is the New Testament that is relevant today. There were no Christians in the Old Testament. "Christ"ianity came after Christ. And He did say a man should not lie with another man as he does with a woman. You're pointing out that the OT is corrupted.
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You say never mind the OT because it's irrelevant, then you say he pointed out that the OT is corrupted (interesting...by what means?), that the NT is what's relevant today. That makes no sense because if the OT is corrupted and irrelevant why refer to it?
Besides, the 10 commandments are in the OT...do you stand by them? And if so, you DO know that the 10 commandments are part of THE LAW which Moses brought down from the mountain...of which there are 613 commandments. Among them...not eating shellfish, stoning to death unruly children and forbidding the wearing linen and wool at the same time to worship. Ever observe any of those?
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OMG! Please give me strength!

Show me exactly where I state the words "never mind the OT because it's irrelevant"? You can't make things up even though you just did!

Do you stand by the 10 commandments?

I know that the 10 commandments were allegedly handed to MAD MOSES from GOD... BUT if they are from GOD why don't you believers follow them?

What day do you go to Church? So much for the Sabbath!

Was you country stolen from natives? YES! Is stealing against the commandments? YES!

Did the Churches buy the stolen land, knowing it was stolen? YES!

Is buying something that you know to have been stolen a crime?

Did they covet the land? YES!

Did the immigrants kill people when they stole it? YES!

How are your 10 commandments looking so far?... 1rof1

Why did GOD get the 9th commandment wrong?

Mosaic Law is Sharia law. Do you believe in Sharia Law?

Did Jesus follow Sharia Law?

A serious flaw, that I found in the 10 commandments the other day.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear."

Now you have read it did notice that at the start of the verse the son is just "stubborn and rebellious" BUT they are ordered to testify that he is "a glutton and a drunkard", thereby bearing FALSE WITNESS!

Moses is teaching people to break the 9th Commandment. Isn't he?

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

OOps hang on no he isn't ... According to the Bible GOD apparently thinks it is fine to bear false witness against a relative, thereby getting the son stoned to death! He states clearly "against thy neighbour".

Really?

GOD the most intelligent being ever, missed this point in the 10 commandments? Surely GOD would say "Do not bear false witness against anybody"!

So do you believe GOD allows false testimony against family or is the 9th commandment a problem?

So whats' your point?

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OOps! And yes I know the 613 commandments (mitzvot) listed in the Torah.

Most are rubbish... BUT that is religion for you.

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Now a really BIG OOPS! And an apology.

Anonymous Coward 39098660, I thought your were talking to me... Looks like I was wrong.

I have been debating so many people on this stuff that I get confused on who said what and when.

I apologise.

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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
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Title is flawed.
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Do you mean that true Christians don't hate anybody?
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I confess JESUS is of GOD.
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Jesus is not "of GOD" you scoffing blasphemer.

Jesus is God (John 10:30), the living Word of the entire Bible (John 1:1, 14), not the god you've created in your own sick mind that's just like you.

Engaging in homosexuality is evil because the Creator of all says so...you're not God

All of your satanic trash has been reproved ad nauseam

You just keep blaspheming and cackling witch...

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God (Rom. 2:5)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)
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Thanks for the good karma people!! Just discovered what that is.

And those who gave me bad karma, well I'm glad I got you thinking.

hf
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you ought to be more concerned with your eternal salvation than with your glp karma points

he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. (1 john 5:12)

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar (1 John 2:4)

all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death (Rev. 21:8)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)
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I would like you read the Scriptures you quoted for yourself. It's not enough to say that you accept that Jesus is the Son of God. As you said, you know him. Are you keeping his commandments? Are you sure of what you are sowing? Shouldn't you be worried about that rather than watching out for what I'm sowing?

Do not get off the straight and narrow path in a bid to get me on it. And do not attempt to get me off that very same path because you believe that I'm not walking straight enough. As you're busy correcting my walk, you may stumble and fall. Make sure that your eyes are always on the prize lest in correcting me you change your focus and lose yourself in trying to find me.
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I confess JESUS is of GOD.
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Jesus is not "of GOD" you scoffing blasphemer.

Jesus is God (John 10:30), the living Word of the entire Bible (John 1:1, 14), not the god you've created in your own sick mind that's just like you.

Engaging in homosexuality is evil because the Creator of all says so...you're not God

All of your satanic trash has been reproved ad nauseam

You just keep blaspheming and cackling witch...

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God (Rom. 2:5)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

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OUCH! That hurt, is that the best insult you have to throw at me? 1rof1

GOD must be so proud that you defend the Bible rather than his good name! Who is the blasphemer? Is there a dunces corner in this Bible class? 1rof1

Christians aren't supposed to call people names... PLUS not that I was BUT I can blaspheme against JESUS according to Jesus.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

You were supposed to turn the other cheek so I can slap you up that side of the head as well...

It must really irk you that I know my Bible better than you...1rof1

So the Bible is Satanic trash? I am quoting your Bible... Where's that dunces cap?

OOps! You failed. You have dropped your guard and showed your true colors let's see what other teachings you are failing.

Are you judging? Yep I'd say so.

Matthew 7:1-5 "Do not judge others...." EPIC FAIL!

Are you bringing peace with your words? Well you aren't causing a world war but I am very hurt...

Matthew 5:9: "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God." EPIC FAIL!

Are you sure of the accusation you are making?

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. EPIC FAIL!

Are you being merciful? FAIL!

Matthew 5:7 "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." EPIC FAIL!

Are you entitled to cast the first stone?

John 8:7: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.EPIC FAIL!

Who does heaven belong to? You might qualify here, you seem to understand scripture like someone who has never read it....1rof1

Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." EPIC FAIL!

Are you turning the other cheek?

Matthew 5:39 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." EPIC FAIL!

Are you angry at me? Or are you way past angry.. Livid, outraged.. Come on let it out big fella!

Matthew 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." EPIC FAIL!

You aren't very good at this Christianity stuff are you?

grinning

Matthew 19:30 "But many who are first will be last, and the last first."

Do you think defending the very flawed Bible, and believing that GOD is a mass murderer, you will be first? Good luck with that! 1rof1

I just love it when Christians get angry and show their true colors.

That Bible can sure be infuriating when it is examined properly! Thank you for showing me your true colors so I could correct you. I can help you with your sinful thoughts about GOD.

All that has been shown so far is that YOU believe that GOD is rotten to the core, and I will not let you get away with your horrid beliefs about GOD/JESUS.

Why do I have to keep defending against people who so easily accept the wrong things the Bible says about them?

And why do I have to do that to self professing believers.. I'm shocked!

I turn the other cheek, and forgive you for your failings!... Jesus will be so proud of me... 1rof1

Come on grumpy... Give me a smile!

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Perhaps this is a good time to discuss JOB. Sorry Nef I had to teach these poor believers with the double standards.

They seem to keep selling me on the concept that the Bible is correct and GOD believes in Sharia Law and other Mosaic and Paulian falsehoods. They keep trying to sell me on the concept that GOD is evil because the Bible says so!

They certainly have their BIBLE babble down to a fine art... BUT do they ever really analyze what they believe? Do they ever defend GOD? How unintelligent do they think GOD really is?

Let's look at a couple of silly tales for their appreciation and edumacationalisation.

For people's consideration -

THE TEMPTATION OF JESUS

If JESUS is GOD then how can GOD be tempted by the lowly SATAN? Oh according to James he can't!

James 1:13: Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

So how could JESUS/GOD be tempted?

JESUS has just been baptised and GOD speaks so all can hear.

Did JESUS know he was the Son of GOD before the baptism? YES!

Did Jesus know he was the Son of GOD after his baptism? YES! Well he did unless he was blind and deaf!

Matthew 3:16-17 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


So for simplicity lets focus on one of the alleged temptations.

Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.


WHAT? JESUS/GOD was tempted? He was offered all the kingdoms of the world by the lowly fallen angel Satan?

Didn't JESUS/GOD create all things? Isn't GOD the master of the Universe?

He already owns them! It's like someone tempting you with the car you already own! Here let me give you 1 cent for your car... Are you tempted? Of course not!

You believers, with your lack of knowledge, lack of logic, lack of analysis and lack of discernment give Satan way too much power.

Please STOP undermining GOD's LOVE AND OMNISCIENCE with this infantile Bible babble.

GOD gave us an inquiring mind, if it is the end times, shouldn't we try using it? Even just a little bit?

Why would JESUS/GOD accept the offer of all the Kingdoms of the Earth when he is the owner and creator of the multiverses?

Is Satan this dumb to think JESUS would accept?

NOW to JOB

Job is a fanciful tale that undermines everything Christians would hold true about GOD, when it suits them, and yet they miss it totally.

It undermines the very intelligence of GOD. It undermines totally the Omniscience of GOD, and it undermines the FREE WILL argument people continue to use as an excuse.

According to this silly tale GOD even offers up JOB to Satan. Is this really how you think GOD operates?

Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

I thought JESUS was the only perfect person to have lived... OOPS!

But worse according to this silly tale Satan challenges GOD, (tempts GOD), and GOD takes the bait.

Really? GOD can be tempted by the lowly Satan? Are you sure? Re-read James James 1:13 again so that it sinks in.

Job 1:9-12 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.


GOD and Satan both know GOD is omniscient don’t they?

So all Satan had to do was ask "Will Job fail?" And GOD being omniscient would tell him NO!

BUT also GOD'S omniscience was also forgotten by GOD apparently!

BUT GOD according to the story you believe isn't intelligent enough to do that and accepts Satan's temptation. AMAZING!

Satan is let loose on JOB, by GOD, and goes straight to work.

Job 1: 13-19 One day when Job’s sons and daughters were feasting and drinking wine at the oldest brother’s house, a messenger came to Job and said, “The oxen were plowing and the donkeys were grazing nearby, and the Sabeans attacked and made off with them. They put the servants to the sword, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!”

While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!”

While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The Chaldeans formed three raiding parties and swept down on your camels and made off with them. They put the servants to the sword, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!”

While he was still speaking, yet another messenger came and said, “Your sons and daughters were feasting and drinking wine at the oldest brother’s house, when suddenly a mighty wind swept in from the desert and struck the four corners of the house. It collapsed on them and they are dead, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!”


OK we know that some sort of free will exists and we all make choices.

BUT where is the FREE WILL in this story? Why did all these innocent people die? They had no say in anything!

If GOD is loving why did these innocents die?

If GOD is omniscient why did he need to test JOB? He knew the outcome any way.

Come on people please start to think… You continually make GOD out to be unintelligent undermining his LOVE and OMNISCIENCE with your belief in these unintelligent stories.

Why do you empower Satan and undermine JESUS and GOD with this rubbish?

Does your loving GOD really operate like this? Doesn't this story make GOD sound pathetic?

These stories are a farce!

GOD IS NOTHING LIKE THIS!

KEEP STUDYING!

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Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God (1 John 4:2)


Thanks for the good karma people!! Just discovered what that is.

And those who gave me bad karma, well I'm glad I got you thinking.

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you ought to be more concerned with your eternal salvation than with your glp karma points

he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. (1 john 5:12)

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar (1 John 2:4)

all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death (Rev. 21:8)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)
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I would like you read the Scriptures you quoted for yourself. It's not enough to say that you accept that Jesus is the Son of God. As you said, you know him. Are you keeping his commandments? Are you sure of what you are sowing? Shouldn't you be worried about that rather than watching out for what I'm sowing?

Do not get off the straight and narrow path in a bid to get me on it. And do not attempt to get me off that very same path because you believe that I'm not walking straight enough. As you're busy correcting my walk, you may stumble and fall. Make sure that your eyes are always on the prize lest in correcting me you change your focus and lose yourself in trying to find me.
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And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:3)
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I confess JESUS is of GOD.
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Jesus is not "of GOD" you scoffing blasphemer.

Jesus is God (John 10:30), the living Word of the entire Bible (John 1:1, 14), not the god you've created in your own sick mind that's just like you.

Engaging in homosexuality is evil because the Creator of all says so...you're not God

All of your satanic trash has been reproved ad nauseam

You just keep blaspheming and cackling witch...

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God (Rom. 2:5)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39119934


OUCH! That hurt, is that the best insult you have to throw at me? 1rof1

GOD must be so proud that you defend the Bible rather than his good name! Who is the blasphemer? Is there a dunces corner in this Bible class? 1rof1

Christians aren't supposed to call people names... PLUS not that I was BUT I can blaspheme against JESUS according to Jesus.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

You were supposed to turn the other cheek so I can slap you up that side of the head as well...

It must really irk you that I know my Bible better than you...1rof1

So the Bible is Satanic trash? I am quoting your Bible... Where's that dunces cap?

OOps! You failed. You have dropped your guard and showed your true colors let's see what other teachings you are failing.

Are you judging? Yep I'd say so.

Matthew 7:1-5 "Do not judge others...." EPIC FAIL!

Are you bringing peace with your words? Well you aren't causing a world war but I am very hurt...

Matthew 5:9: "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God." EPIC FAIL!

Are you sure of the accusation you are making?

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. EPIC FAIL!

Are you being merciful? FAIL!

Matthew 5:7 "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." EPIC FAIL!

Are you entitled to cast the first stone?

John 8:7: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.EPIC FAIL!

Who does heaven belong to? You might qualify here, you seem to understand scripture like someone who has never read it....1rof1

Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." EPIC FAIL!

Are you turning the other cheek?

Matthew 5:39 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." EPIC FAIL!

Are you angry at me? Or are you way past angry.. Livid, outraged.. Come on let it out big fella!

Matthew 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." EPIC FAIL!

You aren't very good at this Christianity stuff are you?

grinning

Matthew 19:30 "But many who are first will be last, and the last first."

Do you think defending the very flawed Bible, and believing that GOD is a mass murderer, you will be first? Good luck with that! 1rof1

I just love it when Christians get angry and show their true colors.

That Bible can sure be infuriating when it is examined properly! Thank you for showing me your true colors so I could correct you. I can help you with your sinful thoughts about GOD.

All that has been shown so far is that YOU believe that GOD is rotten to the core, and I will not let you get away with your horrid beliefs about GOD/JESUS.

Why do I have to keep defending against people who so easily accept the wrong things the Bible says about them?

And why do I have to do that to self professing believers.. I'm shocked!

I turn the other cheek, and forgive you for your failings!... Jesus will be so proud of me... 1rof1

Come on grumpy... Give me a smile!

ohyeah
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You're a lying, antichrist blasphemer (1 John 2:22, Mark 3:29, Matt. 7:16).

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)

This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply (Tit. 1:13)

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. (Mark 8:38)
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I confess JESUS is of GOD.
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Jesus is not "of GOD" you scoffing blasphemer.

Jesus is God (John 10:30), the living Word of the entire Bible (John 1:1, 14), not the god you've created in your own sick mind that's just like you.

Engaging in homosexuality is evil because the Creator of all says so...you're not God

All of your satanic trash has been reproved ad nauseam

You just keep blaspheming and cackling witch...

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God (Rom. 2:5)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39119934


OUCH! That hurt, is that the best insult you have to throw at me? 1rof1

GOD must be so proud that you defend the Bible rather than his good name! Who is the blasphemer? Is there a dunces corner in this Bible class? 1rof1

Christians aren't supposed to call people names... PLUS not that I was BUT I can blaspheme against JESUS according to Jesus.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

You were supposed to turn the other cheek so I can slap you up that side of the head as well...

It must really irk you that I know my Bible better than you...1rof1

So the Bible is Satanic trash? I am quoting your Bible... Where's that dunces cap?

OOps! You failed. You have dropped your guard and showed your true colors let's see what other teachings you are failing.

Are you judging? Yep I'd say so.

Matthew 7:1-5 "Do not judge others...." EPIC FAIL!

Are you bringing peace with your words? Well you aren't causing a world war but I am very hurt...

Matthew 5:9: "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God." EPIC FAIL!

Are you sure of the accusation you are making?

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. EPIC FAIL!

Are you being merciful? FAIL!

Matthew 5:7 "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." EPIC FAIL!

Are you entitled to cast the first stone?

John 8:7: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.EPIC FAIL!

Who does heaven belong to? You might qualify here, you seem to understand scripture like someone who has never read it....1rof1

Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." EPIC FAIL!

Are you turning the other cheek?

Matthew 5:39 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." EPIC FAIL!

Are you angry at me? Or are you way past angry.. Livid, outraged.. Come on let it out big fella!

Matthew 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." EPIC FAIL!

You aren't very good at this Christianity stuff are you?

grinning

Matthew 19:30 "But many who are first will be last, and the last first."

Do you think defending the very flawed Bible, and believing that GOD is a mass murderer, you will be first? Good luck with that! 1rof1

I just love it when Christians get angry and show their true colors.

That Bible can sure be infuriating when it is examined properly! Thank you for showing me your true colors so I could correct you. I can help you with your sinful thoughts about GOD.

All that has been shown so far is that YOU believe that GOD is rotten to the core, and I will not let you get away with your horrid beliefs about GOD/JESUS.

Why do I have to keep defending against people who so easily accept the wrong things the Bible says about them?

And why do I have to do that to self professing believers.. I'm shocked!

I turn the other cheek, and forgive you for your failings!... Jesus will be so proud of me... 1rof1

Come on grumpy... Give me a smile!

ohyeah
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661
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You're a lying, antichrist blasphemer (1 John 2:22, Mark 3:29, Matt. 7:16).

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)

This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply (Tit. 1:13)

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. (Mark 8:38)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39119934


You seem to have a log jam in that eye of yours. What's wrong? Can't think of anything else to call me?

grinning

Why do you continue to bear false witness. Naughty, Naughty.

I am not ashamed of Jesus or GOD. Why are you lying?

I am not an antichrist! You poor thing. Do you think you should see a psychiatrist, or perhaps an exorcist? 1rof1

What is the penalty for falsely calling someone an antichrist? With every word you condemn yourself further.

So by your believing GOD is a condoner of horrendous crimes against humanity & atrocities as stated in the Bible... is that your idea of righteous judgement?

Isn't that acceptance blasphemy against GOD? What if it isn't true?

Oh are you attempting to rebuke me? Wow another Epic Fail. 1rof1

Is the problem that log jam in your eye?... Could it be getting bigger with every misuse of scripture, using it to justify you calling me names?

Why do you make GOD sound so unintelligent and horrid by believing falsehoods against GOD?

I'm working on a posting showing the crimes of MOSES and how he justified falsehoods by claiming "GOD SAID" in front of them.

That will be one you will love. You can accuse GOD of approving those horrendous crimes so that your Bible is accurate.

Here is a beauty for you to consider.

Do you really believe GOD gave this instruction to Moses?

Numbers 5:16-22 (NIV) “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord."

Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water.

After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.

Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.

But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—

here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


Do you really BELIEVE that the most intelligent being ever, GOD, allowed Moses and his priests to add dust to holy water as a test for fidelity?

Note : But this test is only testing the fidelity for the woman. What was the test for a man's fidelity. OOPS there wasn't one... afterall men would never stray.

Is this really how GOD operates?

Surely this is absurd and insulting to GOD, isn't it?

People who would accept that GOD would give Moses an instruction like the above can't really believe in GOD, can they?

If you truly believe GOD would tell Moses to put dust in holy water then I pity you. Are you an antiGOD? 1rof1

ANYTHING THAT UNDERMINES THE LOVE AND OMNISCIENCE OF GOD HAS TO BE WRONG!

Why do self professing believers continually insult GOD with believing this rubbish?

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Jesus is not "of GOD" you scoffing blasphemer.

Jesus is God (John 10:30), the living Word of the entire Bible (John 1:1, 14), not the god you've created in your own sick mind that's just like you.

Engaging in homosexuality is evil because the Creator of all says so...you're not God

All of your satanic trash has been reproved ad nauseam

You just keep blaspheming and cackling witch...

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God (Rom. 2:5)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39119934


OUCH! That hurt, is that the best insult you have to throw at me? 1rof1

GOD must be so proud that you defend the Bible rather than his good name! Who is the blasphemer? Is there a dunces corner in this Bible class? 1rof1

Christians aren't supposed to call people names... PLUS not that I was BUT I can blaspheme against JESUS according to Jesus.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

You were supposed to turn the other cheek so I can slap you up that side of the head as well...

It must really irk you that I know my Bible better than you...1rof1

So the Bible is Satanic trash? I am quoting your Bible... Where's that dunces cap?

OOps! You failed. You have dropped your guard and showed your true colors let's see what other teachings you are failing.

Are you judging? Yep I'd say so.

Matthew 7:1-5 "Do not judge others...." EPIC FAIL!

Are you bringing peace with your words? Well you aren't causing a world war but I am very hurt...

Matthew 5:9: "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God." EPIC FAIL!

Are you sure of the accusation you are making?

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. EPIC FAIL!

Are you being merciful? FAIL!

Matthew 5:7 "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." EPIC FAIL!

Are you entitled to cast the first stone?

John 8:7: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.EPIC FAIL!

Who does heaven belong to? You might qualify here, you seem to understand scripture like someone who has never read it....1rof1

Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." EPIC FAIL!

Are you turning the other cheek?

Matthew 5:39 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." EPIC FAIL!

Are you angry at me? Or are you way past angry.. Livid, outraged.. Come on let it out big fella!

Matthew 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." EPIC FAIL!

You aren't very good at this Christianity stuff are you?

grinning

Matthew 19:30 "But many who are first will be last, and the last first."

Do you think defending the very flawed Bible, and believing that GOD is a mass murderer, you will be first? Good luck with that! 1rof1

I just love it when Christians get angry and show their true colors.

That Bible can sure be infuriating when it is examined properly! Thank you for showing me your true colors so I could correct you. I can help you with your sinful thoughts about GOD.

All that has been shown so far is that YOU believe that GOD is rotten to the core, and I will not let you get away with your horrid beliefs about GOD/JESUS.

Why do I have to keep defending against people who so easily accept the wrong things the Bible says about them?

And why do I have to do that to self professing believers.. I'm shocked!

I turn the other cheek, and forgive you for your failings!... Jesus will be so proud of me... 1rof1

Come on grumpy... Give me a smile!

ohyeah
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You're a lying, antichrist blasphemer (1 John 2:22, Mark 3:29, Matt. 7:16).

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)

This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply (Tit. 1:13)

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. (Mark 8:38)

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You seem to have a log jam in that eye of yours. What's wrong? Can't think of anything else to call me?

grinning

Why do you continue to bear false witness. Naughty, Naughty.

I am not ashamed of Jesus or GOD. Why are you lying?

I am not an antichrist! You poor thing. Do you think you should see a psychiatrist, or perhaps an exorcist? 1rof1

What is the penalty for falsely calling someone an antichrist? With every word you condemn yourself further.

So by your believing GOD is a condoner of horrendous crimes against humanity & atrocities as stated in the Bible... is that your idea of righteous judgement?

Isn't that acceptance blasphemy against GOD? What if it isn't true?

Oh are you attempting to rebuke me? Wow another Epic Fail. 1rof1

Is the problem that log jam in your eye?... Could it be getting bigger with every misuse of scripture, using it to justify you calling me names?

Why do you make GOD sound so unintelligent and horrid by believing falsehoods against GOD?

I'm working on a posting showing the crimes of MOSES and how he justified falsehoods by claiming "GOD SAID" in front of them.

That will be one you will love. You can accuse GOD of approving those horrendous crimes so that your Bible is accurate.

Here is a beauty for you to consider.

Do you really believe GOD gave this instruction to Moses?

Numbers 5:16-22 (NIV) “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord."

Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water.

After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.

Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.

But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—

here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


Do you really BELIEVE that the most intelligent being ever, GOD, allowed Moses and his priests to add dust to holy water as a test for fidelity?

Note : But this test is only testing the fidelity for the woman. What was the test for a man's fidelity. OOPS there wasn't one... afterall men would never stray.

Is this really how GOD operates?

Surely this is absurd and insulting to GOD, isn't it?

People who would accept that GOD would give Moses an instruction like the above can't really believe in GOD, can they?

If you truly believe GOD would tell Moses to put dust in holy water then I pity you. Are you an antiGOD? 1rof1

ANYTHING THAT UNDERMINES THE LOVE AND OMNISCIENCE OF GOD HAS TO BE WRONG!

Why do self professing believers continually insult GOD with believing this rubbish?

ohyeah
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you're not God

your lusts are not the arbiter of good and evil

Jesus, the living Word is (John 1:1, 14)

the fact that you don't like what God has to say, or approve of how God deals with God's creation is your problem (Rom. 9:20)

God created all

God makes the rules

none of your rubbish will save you from God's judgment for the evil you have done (Rom. 3:23), only Jesus can (John 8:24)
Amazed Continually!
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OUCH! That hurt, is that the best insult you have to throw at me? 1rof1

GOD must be so proud that you defend the Bible rather than his good name! Who is the blasphemer? Is there a dunces corner in this Bible class? 1rof1

Christians aren't supposed to call people names... PLUS not that I was BUT I can blaspheme against JESUS according to Jesus.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

You were supposed to turn the other cheek so I can slap you up that side of the head as well...

It must really irk you that I know my Bible better than you...1rof1

So the Bible is Satanic trash? I am quoting your Bible... Where's that dunces cap?

OOps! You failed. You have dropped your guard and showed your true colors let's see what other teachings you are failing.

Are you judging? Yep I'd say so.

Matthew 7:1-5 "Do not judge others...." EPIC FAIL!

Are you bringing peace with your words? Well you aren't causing a world war but I am very hurt...

Matthew 5:9: "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God." EPIC FAIL!

Are you sure of the accusation you are making?

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. EPIC FAIL!

Are you being merciful? FAIL!

Matthew 5:7 "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." EPIC FAIL!

Are you entitled to cast the first stone?

John 8:7: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.EPIC FAIL!

Who does heaven belong to? You might qualify here, you seem to understand scripture like someone who has never read it....1rof1

Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." EPIC FAIL!

Are you turning the other cheek?

Matthew 5:39 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." EPIC FAIL!

Are you angry at me? Or are you way past angry.. Livid, outraged.. Come on let it out big fella!

Matthew 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." EPIC FAIL!

You aren't very good at this Christianity stuff are you?

grinning

Matthew 19:30 "But many who are first will be last, and the last first."

Do you think defending the very flawed Bible, and believing that GOD is a mass murderer, you will be first? Good luck with that! 1rof1

I just love it when Christians get angry and show their true colors.

That Bible can sure be infuriating when it is examined properly! Thank you for showing me your true colors so I could correct you. I can help you with your sinful thoughts about GOD.

All that has been shown so far is that YOU believe that GOD is rotten to the core, and I will not let you get away with your horrid beliefs about GOD/JESUS.

Why do I have to keep defending against people who so easily accept the wrong things the Bible says about them?

And why do I have to do that to self professing believers.. I'm shocked!

I turn the other cheek, and forgive you for your failings!... Jesus will be so proud of me... 1rof1

Come on grumpy... Give me a smile!

ohyeah
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You're a lying, antichrist blasphemer (1 John 2:22, Mark 3:29, Matt. 7:16).

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)

This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply (Tit. 1:13)

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. (Mark 8:38)

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You seem to have a log jam in that eye of yours. What's wrong? Can't think of anything else to call me?

grinning

Why do you continue to bear false witness. Naughty, Naughty.

I am not ashamed of Jesus or GOD. Why are you lying?

I am not an antichrist! You poor thing. Do you think you should see a psychiatrist, or perhaps an exorcist? 1rof1

What is the penalty for falsely calling someone an antichrist? With every word you condemn yourself further.

So by your believing GOD is a condoner of horrendous crimes against humanity & atrocities as stated in the Bible... is that your idea of righteous judgement?

Isn't that acceptance blasphemy against GOD? What if it isn't true?

Oh are you attempting to rebuke me? Wow another Epic Fail. 1rof1

Is the problem that log jam in your eye?... Could it be getting bigger with every misuse of scripture, using it to justify you calling me names?

Why do you make GOD sound so unintelligent and horrid by believing falsehoods against GOD?

I'm working on a posting showing the crimes of MOSES and how he justified falsehoods by claiming "GOD SAID" in front of them.

That will be one you will love. You can accuse GOD of approving those horrendous crimes so that your Bible is accurate.

Here is a beauty for you to consider.

Do you really believe GOD gave this instruction to Moses?

Numbers 5:16-22 (NIV) “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord."

Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water.

After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.

Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.

But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—

here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


Do you really BELIEVE that the most intelligent being ever, GOD, allowed Moses and his priests to add dust to holy water as a test for fidelity?

Note : But this test is only testing the fidelity for the woman. What was the test for a man's fidelity. OOPS there wasn't one... afterall men would never stray.

Is this really how GOD operates?

Surely this is absurd and insulting to GOD, isn't it?

People who would accept that GOD would give Moses an instruction like the above can't really believe in GOD, can they?

If you truly believe GOD would tell Moses to put dust in holy water then I pity you. Are you an antiGOD? 1rof1

ANYTHING THAT UNDERMINES THE LOVE AND OMNISCIENCE OF GOD HAS TO BE WRONG!

Why do self professing believers continually insult GOD with believing this rubbish?

ohyeah
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661

you're not God

your lusts are not the arbiter of good and evil

Jesus, the living Word is (John 1:1, 14)

the fact that you don't like what God has to say, or approve of how God deals with God's creation is your problem (Rom. 9:20)

God created all

God makes the rules

none of your rubbish will save you from God's judgment for the evil you have done (Rom. 3:23), only Jesus can (John 8:24)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39119934


Thank you for telling me I am not GOD. Why would you make such a silly statement like that.

I have never claimed to be GOD... BUT you managed to make it sound that I have.

Is that bearing false witness again?

It's not my rubbish... It is direct quotes from the Bible.

Unlike you, my parents taught me manners, so I put every word of the quote I use into my posts. I think it called "Do unto others".

That way people can read the quote and assess what I am saying.

What you don't realise is that you are actually giving me the opportunity to post these things for intelligent people to evaluate for themselves.

Most of the quotes, many people will not have realised are in their Bibles.

At that point they can use their "gift from GOD", their analytical minds, to decide whether they believe that GOD is a monster or not?

If they listen to you they will have to conclude GOD is a monster.

If they listen to me they will realise the Bible is wrong and GOD is still loving, omniscient, omnipotent & Omnipresent. Something your belief destroys!

Are you so indoctrinated that you are willing to call GOD a monster based on the writings of men?

Is your Bible more important than GOD?

Is your belief in your Bible greater than your belief in GOD?

What will you say come judgement day when GOD asks... Why did you defend the absurdities about me stated in the Bible and not realise I am nothing like the way I have been portrayed?

Why did you trust false teachings when you should have known that I am a loving GOD?

I think you should consider GOD first and the Bible second.

If it undermines GOD in any way it is wrong.

Are you living proof that indoctrination works? Has indoctrination and false teachings shut down GOD's gift of an analytical mind in you?

Some things for you to consider.

Did GOD really allow Moses to put tabernacle floor dust in holy water to test fidelity and to terminate a babies life?

Come on now... not even you can accept that as reasonable. Can you?

ohyeah
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You're a lying, antichrist blasphemer (1 John 2:22, Mark 3:29, Matt. 7:16).

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)

This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply (Tit. 1:13)

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. (Mark 8:38)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39119934


You seem to have a log jam in that eye of yours. What's wrong? Can't think of anything else to call me?

grinning

Why do you continue to bear false witness. Naughty, Naughty.

I am not ashamed of Jesus or GOD. Why are you lying?

I am not an antichrist! You poor thing. Do you think you should see a psychiatrist, or perhaps an exorcist? 1rof1

What is the penalty for falsely calling someone an antichrist? With every word you condemn yourself further.

So by your believing GOD is a condoner of horrendous crimes against humanity & atrocities as stated in the Bible... is that your idea of righteous judgement?

Isn't that acceptance blasphemy against GOD? What if it isn't true?

Oh are you attempting to rebuke me? Wow another Epic Fail. 1rof1

Is the problem that log jam in your eye?... Could it be getting bigger with every misuse of scripture, using it to justify you calling me names?

Why do you make GOD sound so unintelligent and horrid by believing falsehoods against GOD?

I'm working on a posting showing the crimes of MOSES and how he justified falsehoods by claiming "GOD SAID" in front of them.

That will be one you will love. You can accuse GOD of approving those horrendous crimes so that your Bible is accurate.

Here is a beauty for you to consider.

Do you really believe GOD gave this instruction to Moses?

Numbers 5:16-22 (NIV) “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord."

Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water.

After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.

Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.

But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—

here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


Do you really BELIEVE that the most intelligent being ever, GOD, allowed Moses and his priests to add dust to holy water as a test for fidelity?

Note : But this test is only testing the fidelity for the woman. What was the test for a man's fidelity. OOPS there wasn't one... afterall men would never stray.

Is this really how GOD operates?

Surely this is absurd and insulting to GOD, isn't it?

People who would accept that GOD would give Moses an instruction like the above can't really believe in GOD, can they?

If you truly believe GOD would tell Moses to put dust in holy water then I pity you. Are you an antiGOD? 1rof1

ANYTHING THAT UNDERMINES THE LOVE AND OMNISCIENCE OF GOD HAS TO BE WRONG!

Why do self professing believers continually insult GOD with believing this rubbish?

ohyeah
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661

you're not God

your lusts are not the arbiter of good and evil

Jesus, the living Word is (John 1:1, 14)

the fact that you don't like what God has to say, or approve of how God deals with God's creation is your problem (Rom. 9:20)

God created all

God makes the rules

none of your rubbish will save you from God's judgment for the evil you have done (Rom. 3:23), only Jesus can (John 8:24)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39119934


Thank you for telling me I am not GOD. Why would you make such a silly statement like that.

I have never claimed to be GOD... BUT you managed to make it sound that I have.

Is that bearing false witness again?

It's not my rubbish... It is direct quotes from the Bible.

Unlike you, my parents taught me manners, so I put every word of the quote I use into my posts. I think it called "Do unto others".

That way people can read the quote and assess what I am saying.

What you don't realise is that you are actually giving me the opportunity to post these things for intelligent people to evaluate for themselves.

Most of the quotes, many people will not have realised are in their Bibles.

At that point they can use their "gift from GOD", their analytical minds, to decide whether they believe that GOD is a monster or not?

If they listen to you they will have to conclude GOD is a monster.

If they listen to me they will realise the Bible is wrong and GOD is still loving, omniscient, omnipotent & Omnipresent. Something your belief destroys!

Are you so indoctrinated that you are willing to call GOD a monster based on the writings of men?

Is your Bible more important than GOD?

Is your belief in your Bible greater than your belief in GOD?

What will you say come judgement day when GOD asks... Why did you defend the absurdities about me stated in the Bible and not realise I am nothing like the way I have been portrayed?

Why did you trust false teachings when you should have known that I am a loving GOD?

I think you should consider GOD first and the Bible second.

If it undermines GOD in any way it is wrong.

Are you living proof that indoctrination works? Has indoctrination and false teachings shut down GOD's gift of an analytical mind in you?

Some things for you to consider.

Did GOD really allow Moses to put tabernacle floor dust in holy water to test fidelity and to terminate a babies life?

Come on now... not even you can accept that as reasonable. Can you?

ohyeah
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anyone who believes your incomprehensible mish mash of lies, retardation, and blasphemous satanic filth deserves to share in your fate
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You seem to have a log jam in that eye of yours. What's wrong? Can't think of anything else to call me?

grinning

Why do you continue to bear false witness. Naughty, Naughty.

I am not ashamed of Jesus or GOD. Why are you lying?

I am not an antichrist! You poor thing. Do you think you should see a psychiatrist, or perhaps an exorcist? 1rof1

What is the penalty for falsely calling someone an antichrist? With every word you condemn yourself further.

So by your believing GOD is a condoner of horrendous crimes against humanity & atrocities as stated in the Bible... is that your idea of righteous judgement?

Isn't that acceptance blasphemy against GOD? What if it isn't true?

Oh are you attempting to rebuke me? Wow another Epic Fail. 1rof1

Is the problem that log jam in your eye?... Could it be getting bigger with every misuse of scripture, using it to justify you calling me names?

Why do you make GOD sound so unintelligent and horrid by believing falsehoods against GOD?

I'm working on a posting showing the crimes of MOSES and how he justified falsehoods by claiming "GOD SAID" in front of them.

That will be one you will love. You can accuse GOD of approving those horrendous crimes so that your Bible is accurate.

Here is a beauty for you to consider.

Do you really believe GOD gave this instruction to Moses?

Numbers 5:16-22 (NIV) “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord."

Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water.

After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.

Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.

But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—

here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


Do you really BELIEVE that the most intelligent being ever, GOD, allowed Moses and his priests to add dust to holy water as a test for fidelity?

Note : But this test is only testing the fidelity for the woman. What was the test for a man's fidelity. OOPS there wasn't one... afterall men would never stray.

Is this really how GOD operates?

Surely this is absurd and insulting to GOD, isn't it?

People who would accept that GOD would give Moses an instruction like the above can't really believe in GOD, can they?

If you truly believe GOD would tell Moses to put dust in holy water then I pity you. Are you an antiGOD? 1rof1

ANYTHING THAT UNDERMINES THE LOVE AND OMNISCIENCE OF GOD HAS TO BE WRONG!

Why do self professing believers continually insult GOD with believing this rubbish?

ohyeah
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661

you're not God

your lusts are not the arbiter of good and evil

Jesus, the living Word is (John 1:1, 14)

the fact that you don't like what God has to say, or approve of how God deals with God's creation is your problem (Rom. 9:20)

God created all

God makes the rules

none of your rubbish will save you from God's judgment for the evil you have done (Rom. 3:23), only Jesus can (John 8:24)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39119934


Thank you for telling me I am not GOD. Why would you make such a silly statement like that.

I have never claimed to be GOD... BUT you managed to make it sound that I have.

Is that bearing false witness again?

It's not my rubbish... It is direct quotes from the Bible.

Unlike you, my parents taught me manners, so I put every word of the quote I use into my posts. I think it called "Do unto others".

That way people can read the quote and assess what I am saying.

What you don't realise is that you are actually giving me the opportunity to post these things for intelligent people to evaluate for themselves.

Most of the quotes, many people will not have realised are in their Bibles.

At that point they can use their "gift from GOD", their analytical minds, to decide whether they believe that GOD is a monster or not?

If they listen to you they will have to conclude GOD is a monster.

If they listen to me they will realise the Bible is wrong and GOD is still loving, omniscient, omnipotent & Omnipresent. Something your belief destroys!

Are you so indoctrinated that you are willing to call GOD a monster based on the writings of men?

Is your Bible more important than GOD?

Is your belief in your Bible greater than your belief in GOD?

What will you say come judgement day when GOD asks... Why did you defend the absurdities about me stated in the Bible and not realise I am nothing like the way I have been portrayed?

Why did you trust false teachings when you should have known that I am a loving GOD?

I think you should consider GOD first and the Bible second.

If it undermines GOD in any way it is wrong.

Are you living proof that indoctrination works? Has indoctrination and false teachings shut down GOD's gift of an analytical mind in you?

Some things for you to consider.

Did GOD really allow Moses to put tabernacle floor dust in holy water to test fidelity and to terminate a babies life?

Come on now... not even you can accept that as reasonable. Can you?

ohyeah
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anyone who believes your incomprehensible mish mash of lies, retardation, and blasphemous satanic filth deserves to share in your fate
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And again you show your true colors. It is not me that has destroyed all your arguments. It is the Bible.

Just so you realise... I didn't write it, I just quoted it! 1rof1

That is the problem when you worship a book, and the stories in that book, and fail to see in doing so you totally undermine GOD.

Your attempts at insults are wonderfully unimaginative. 1rof1

I have enjoyed teaching you!

Twas a pity you were too stubborn to learn!

ohyeah
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There's a difference between hating homosexuality and homosexuals. Homosexuals as individuals I do not hate, homosexuality I hate.
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It's great that you don't hate homosexuals, they are people like the rest of us... neither you should!

However, why would you hate homosexuality?

Other than on this thread I don't spend a second of my life even thinking about it.

I am sure I wouldn't like running naked through the streets, but I don't spend any time thinking about that either.

So why would I express a hate for running through the streets naked. I'm never going to do it.

This is what I just don't understand.

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Homosexuality is a gender identification disorder and it is a mental illness. The views of Christians regarding the morality of it is a separate issue that just so happens to coincide with the fact that it is a mental disorder. If there is hatred involved in any of the discussion, then that is wrong.

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Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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Homosexuality is a gender identification disorder and it is a mental illness. The views of Christians regarding the morality of it is a separate issue that just so happens to coincide with the fact that it is a mental disorder. If there is hatred involved in any of the discussion, then that is wrong.
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Whilst I agree no one should show hatred to homosexuals or even judge them calling it a mental disorder is simply wrong.

That is how they used to discriminate against them in the past. So you have just discriminated in another way.

So should we now call your lack of knowledge a mental disorder?

Come on... You are better than this!

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Homosexuality is a gender identification disorder and it is a mental illness. The views of Christians regarding the morality of it is a separate issue that just so happens to coincide with the fact that it is a mental disorder. If there is hatred involved in any of the discussion, then that is wrong.
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Whilst I agree no one should show hatred to homosexuals or even judge them calling it a mental disorder is simply wrong.

That is how they used to discriminate against them in the past. So you have just discriminated in another way.

So should we now call your lack of knowledge a mental disorder?

Come on... You are better than this!

ohyeah
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Why is that wrong? Because you have been conditioned to say that it is wrong? The fact remains that homosexuals do suffer from gender identity disorder, which is in fact a mental illness. You have been so conditioned to not offend someone, that you refuse to call a spade a spade.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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Homosexuality is a gender identification disorder and it is a mental illness. The views of Christians regarding the morality of it is a separate issue that just so happens to coincide with the fact that it is a mental disorder. If there is hatred involved in any of the discussion, then that is wrong.
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Whilst I agree no one should show hatred to homosexuals or even judge them calling it a mental disorder is simply wrong.

That is how they used to discriminate against them in the past. So you have just discriminated in another way.

So should we now call your lack of knowledge a mental disorder?

Come on... You are better than this!

ohyeah
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Why is that wrong? Because you have been conditioned to say that it is wrong? The fact remains that homosexuals do suffer from gender identity disorder, which is in fact a mental illness. You have been so conditioned to not offend someone, that you refuse to call a spade a spade.
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What medical qualifications do you have to justify a falsehood as a fact?

How many years study have you done into homosexuality?

I'm guessing - zero! Hey you are overqualified...1rof1

Your comments are as bad as the other ill-informed comments on this thread.

I love the way you say I have been conditioned... When you are the one making a fool of yourself, and pretending you know something.

Do you have the mental disorder of lack of intellect?

You have just proven yourself to be as unknowing as the Christians you would criticise.

Hide! I have sent the white coats around to your place.

WAKE UP!

ohyeah
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this poster has absolutely no idea that hell is real

There is no fear of God before their eyes. (Rom. 3:18)

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What's wrong? Has your Bible let you down so much that you now need to say these things.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Do you believe GOD would instruct Moses and his priests, to put tabernacle floor dust in holy water for a woman to drink, so as to test her fidelity and perhaps abort a baby whilst under a curse?

What did the baby do wrong? REALLY! is this how GOD operates?

I know you won't answer so let's see what you think of these things. Feel free to continue defending these crimes against humanity and these falsehoods about GOD!

I'm sorry but I also have to question your understanding of GOD when it comes to children.

Christians who claim the Bible is GOD's inerrant word and claim the Pro life high ground have several problems contained in their Bibles.

It is difficult to argue GOD is pro-life, if you follow the Bible. Sorry if this offends but it comes directly from the Bible.

Numbers 31:17-18 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Would GOD really give this instruction?

How many of the women who had known a man were with child when this atrocity occurred?

What were the Israelites allowed to do with the girls? slavery...

Numbers 31 should burn into the hearts & memories of Christians!

And how many of the firstborn of Egypt were with child when they were murdered during passover. They had done no wrong except be born Egyptian! The children who were slaughtered were innocents!

Does your Church shamefully celebrate this horrendous event? Would it be right for people to celebrate the holocaust? Of course not it would be outrageous!

BUT IT GETS WORSE!

If the Bible is the inerrant word of GOD and Moses can be trusted then GOD actually approves of abortion in Numbers 5:16-22.

GOD allegedly told Moses regarding married women

Numbers 5:16-22 (NIV) “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord."

Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water.

After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.

Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.

But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—

here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

If you believe your GOD would agree to such things - So much for Pro-life!

Does GOD put curses on people? Sounds like witchcraft to me. Does GOD kill innocent babies? Does GOD want dust added to Holy water and women forced to drink it?

AND what about this

Hosea 13:16-17 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God.

They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground,their pregnant women ripped open.”


AND

1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Were Moses & others, scumbags who misrepresented GOD or did GOD give Moses a method to initiate abortion and allow the murder of unborn and innocent children?

The answer is very simple... BUT defenders of the Bible/ haters of GOD would rather defend the Bible than defend GOD.

By ignoring these horrific Biblical stories, (allegedly ordered by GOD), are you pretending that GOD is pro-life based on an ignorance as to what the Bible actually says?

Can't you see these verses DO NOT represent GOD! Can't you see these verses are made up by men to encourage people to do horrid ruthless crimes against innocents.

These people are war criminals!

BUT WAIT - SOME HUMAN IN THE BIBLE EVEN WROTE THIS!

Psalms 137:9 Happy (shall he be), that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

This is simply outrageous criminal bravado from an unGODly person. How could anyone be happy like this?

Would this make you happy AC 39119934? Would you do it if a voice in your head told you to?

Why would anyone believe GOD condoned these atrocities?

How can anyone lie and state this is GOD's WORD?

GOD DOESN'T DO SUCH THINGS! GOD DOESN'T APPROVE OF SUCH THINGS!

More to follow!

PLEASE WAKE UP - AND DO NOT BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO UNDERMINE GOD'S LOVE AND OMNISCIENCE!

God is pure love... It is that simple!

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OOps forgot my smile that AC 39119934 loves so much.

It was hard to smile after showing that last post of horrid atrocities.

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