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Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?

 
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Fags are pretty fucking annoying, but since I steer clear of them they don't bother me.
Christians are more annoying and I steer clear of them too!
What shouldn't be done (like christians do!!) is to advertise one's beliefs or sexual persuasion.
Nobody gives a fuck if you worship a fairy or if you ARE a fairy!!
Keep what you do and believe in to yourself or share it with others who hold the same opinions.
Seeing a 'jesus loves you' billboard is as much a pain in the ass as some faggy liberals putting up a billboard with two blokes kissing, and a 'use a condom' slogan underneath!
Fuck you for making me look at your particular perversion (and yes, christianity is a perversion).
I don't demand signs be put up advertising the virtues of gun ownership, nor do I go around having a 'guitar pride' day.
My interests are my own and so should everybody else's be...
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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
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I think mostly they hate us gays because we won't stay in our closets any longer. Plus we stand up to them and don't crawl away. This totally pisses them off. And we dare to want Equality.

lol

Yes we are out of control. We are no longer controlled by those that use to try and control us.

Great times ahead.
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Christians don't hate gays. Since there is no degree of sin, short of sacrificing your children, and ALL have sinned, no, we Christians are no better. However, there is the saying, "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

On the other hand, gays probably have a pretty good idea about what the Bible says about homosexuality, so they displace their anger over that to hapless Christians. Gays also don't want to be 'preached' to about their chosen way of life, because you know, it's all about them. What THEY want. In my opinion, most gays are the epitome of selfishness. When Jesus said 'Take up your cross and follow me', that 'cross' is all of the sinful behavior we partake in everyday. Gays don't want to give up their sinful behavior, and will lash out at anyone telling them to.

So no, we don't hate gays, but I bet most, myself included, would wish they would stop trying to get others to ENDORSE their lifestyle. That goes for Christians too, because Jesus never told his disciples to bludgeon people over the head with God's Word.
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Endorse their lifestyle. Yes, a big number of people (in Uganda) would agree with you that while they wouldn't go out to lynch a gay man, they also are fed up with what seems like a pro-gay campaign. As I did say, the anti-gay stance here seems to be a reaction to the pro-gay campaign.

I agree with you about gays knowing the Bible and Christianity's stance on the matter. In my experience, many gay people are not members of a church because they know that they would have to stop. So do you think it is better for Christians to reject homosexuals in their churches and leave State matters to the State? (Hope I'm being clear)
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I am Christian and I do not hate gays. I have no right to judge that is the job of Jesus Christ. Let he who has never sinned cast the first stone.
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No offence to people who do what they do. Do what you like in the privacy of your own place...............If it don't hurt you then enjoy the experience....But me being of somewhat of a mechanical mind I would only have one thing to add to this discussion.........

Things are designed for a reason. There are one way valves, and there are receptive valves............

Some things are meant to fit certain things. Most things work as nature intended. Nature and the natural order of things are just they way they are.....

I;m trying to not be offensive here but I will state what I have come to notice................

Babies wear nappies............Men do not...

Once A man, twice a child, does have nothing to do with societal mechanics.
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None taken.

hf
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FAGS FUCK FECES!!!!

WHATS NOT to hate about THAT?
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Don't worry eventually we gay will attain Equality and things will return to normal whatever that is.

It is good that so many are speaking out in favor of us finally. How many years did we have to put up with all that nasty crap? U think it's ok for us to have a little lime light now.

I also rather enjoy the GAY being rubbed in the noses or down the throats as they claim. I see it as payback is a bitch time.

Some of us Gays just get a kick out of making the knuckle draggers flip out.

Can you really blame us ?
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. How are we different from homosexuals?
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One difference is procreation.
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True.

Christians discriminate against homosexuals because they need someone to oppress.

They don't know their BIBLES well enough to know that it is totally wrong to oppress anyone.

They love throwing the guilt trip on homosexuals because it makes them feel superior.

They pick and choose anything that suits their bigotry.

Sad but true!

hf
 Quoting: Amazed Continually! 1190661


And there is a truth. The Bible has been used in the past to justify the inferiority of women, blacks, even children. I think that's what bothers me when the anti-gay movement uses religion as a crutch. And judging by how things changed for the groups mentioned above, it looks inevitable that same sex marriage, recognition as a valid domestic partner, adoption and other rights will be given to homosexuals.
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What you're not getting is that people will eventually exterminate themselves either through homosexuality because it will eventually become illegal for men and women to procreate in the future,but homosexuality will become the norm. But I swear I hope we don't see this in our life times.
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I find that really hard to believe......there's ALWAYS been homosexual people, and there ALWAYS will be homosexual people. It doesn't mean the human race is just gonna die off because of it, that's pretty ridiculous don't you think? So because a certain percentage of people like the same sex, everyone else is gonna become gay too or stop having kids? No I don't think so, and that's not even counting the fact that there are ways for gay couples to have a child in other ways.

It just doesn't have a place in reality. Really if our society is gonna die off it will be because of everything ELSE making it harder to have kids or even less desirable to given the conditions they will be raised in now, not because of gay people.

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No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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FAGS FUCK FECES!!!!

WHATS NOT to hate about THAT?
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So do the majority of heteros.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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I don't need to read your expose... You're gay -- good for you... now go away. I've turned homophobic after what your mafia has done to my country for the last 60 years... (am I wrong)? No.
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I'm not gay.

What have the gays done to the US?
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Christians don't hate gays. Since there is no degree of sin, short of sacrificing your children, and ALL have sinned, no, we Christians are no better. However, there is the saying, "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

On the other hand, gays probably have a pretty good idea about what the Bible says about homosexuality, so they displace their anger over that to hapless Christians. Gays also don't want to be 'preached' to about their chosen way of life, because you know, it's all about them. What THEY want. In my opinion, most gays are the epitome of selfishness. When Jesus said 'Take up your cross and follow me', that 'cross' is all of the sinful behavior we partake in everyday. Gays don't want to give up their sinful behavior, and will lash out at anyone telling them to.

So no, we don't hate gays, but I bet most, myself included, would wish they would stop trying to get others to ENDORSE their lifestyle. That goes for Christians too, because Jesus never told his disciples to bludgeon people over the head with God's Word.
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so who are we to judge
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Uhh... don't look now but the truth is... We're here to judge (believe it).
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FAGS FUCK FECES!!!!

WHATS NOT to hate about THAT?
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So do the majority of heteros.
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Yeah..and its fucking SICK.

But fags do it EXCLUSIVLEY!

When a hetero does it..they are being kinky..doing something "Taboo"..

So how much sicker does it become when its done ALL the time on the SAME sex?

I mean..where is the sexual thrill of fucking the shit inside another mans..most probably aids infested shit filled asshole?

And these sicko fucks claim they are BORN to fuck shit??

GET FUCKING REAL!

They are mentally and pshycotically diseased sick fucks that should be shot on fucking sight.
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What you're not getting is that people will eventually exterminate themselves either through homosexuality because it will eventually become illegal for men and women to procreate in the future,but homosexuality will become the norm. But I swear I hope we don't see this in our life times.
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I can't imagine homosexuality becoming the norm. As in force me to sleep with women? That ain't gonna happen.

The fag activists are going on all out attack on traditional family.

They won't stop until family unit as such is permanently destroyed.

When they get 'marriage', they want to adopt children to produce more fresh bodies for their fag-bathhouses.

When they get 'adoption', they want to REMOVE words like 'father', 'mother', 'son', 'daughter' from the language. Just like they pushed their filth onto word 'gay'. No, fags will forever stay fags, since that word describes the core of their perverted nature.

Once they have removed few gender related words from language, they want to remove all gender related words from language.


Why should anyone, that has any sanity left, would accept such absolutely destructive world vision with 'tolerance'?

Human bodies have immune systems for reason - to get rid of plagues and viruses.

The same is with any society that has not yet been KILLED off morally completely by the fag-plague - they are not tolerating any attempts of the fag-plague carriers to settle among them and infect their children!
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But is there a "plague" that is just for homosexuals?

I'm also very uncomfortable with the idea of adoption. What will the child grow up thinking? What if the child is hetero? Won't he or she feel like the odd one out?

Christians don't hate gays. Since there is no degree of sin, short of sacrificing your children, and ALL have sinned, no, we Christians are no better. However, there is the saying, "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

On the other hand, gays probably have a pretty good idea about what the Bible says about homosexuality, so they displace their anger over that to hapless Christians. Gays also don't want to be 'preached' to about their chosen way of life, because you know, it's all about them. What THEY want. In my opinion, most gays are the epitome of selfishness. When Jesus said 'Take up your cross and follow me', that 'cross' is all of the sinful behavior we partake in everyday. Gays don't want to give up their sinful behavior, and will lash out at anyone telling them to.

So no, we don't hate gays, but I bet most, myself included, would wish they would stop trying to get others to ENDORSE their lifestyle. That goes for Christians too, because Jesus never told his disciples to bludgeon people over the head with God's Word.
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I think this person nailed it , most christians don't hate homos any more than any other sinner it's just a sin and we all do them so who are we to judge
 Quoting: ben Marco 1706225


This is the ideal. In reality, many Christians say hateful things about homosexuals.

Christians discriminate against homosexuals because they need someone to oppress.

They don't know their BIBLES well enough to know that it is totally wrong to oppress anyone.

They love throwing the guilt trip on homosexuals because it makes them feel superior.

They pick and choose anything that suits their bigotry.

Sad but true!

hf
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The delusional post of the day so far, God´s condemning homosexuality in the Bible. Whatever
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Back to BIBLE 101 before I have to show you where you are wrong.

I wouldn't throw the delusional comment around too easily if I were you. You might end up wearing it yourself.


1rof1
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The Bible is pretty clear on this issue.
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I am not a Christian. And I don't hate gays or anyone else. I am very
Placid and free of hate to all.

But I think faggotry is an unnatural thing. It's the sign of something wrong, not something to be paraded and Celebrated. I also dislike the way pro-faggot messages are constantly shoved in my face everywhere I go, like every TV shi w who has a wise or talented gay, every movie at lest mentions it, etc. And they teach about it in school now, with is wrong. Sexuality should be taught by parents, not school. Gay or straight.

People think they are special and seek special victimhood status, attention, etc based simply on being gay. They base their whole identity around what they do in the bedroom. Personally I base my identity around job and family accomplishments, not what my wife and I do in private time. If you want to be gay, go ahead: I just don want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about heterosexual practices of friends, neighbors, co-workers, and strangers, either.

All of the above is perfectly rational and has nothing to do with hate. But because the pro-fag crowd withers in the face of actual logic, all they can do is scree about "hate" and "discrimination." This is their way of avoid logical discourse.

Also, as a side-note, history teaches that acceptencs of faggotry and other perversions is a sign of a society in decline: Decadent declining Rome, late Ottoman empIre, Qing dynasty China, etc. It is a sign of a society that has lost respect for masculine ideals and has overemphasized femininity to the point of celebrating faggotry in men. Historically this is a sign of decline, with zero exceptions.
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Rome, maybe. Ottoman Empire, Qing Dynasty? Any links?
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Fags are pretty fucking annoying, but since I steer clear of them they don't bother me.
Christians are more annoying and I steer clear of them too!
What shouldn't be done (like christians do!!) is to advertise one's beliefs or sexual persuasion.
Nobody gives a fuck if you worship a fairy or if you ARE a fairy!!
Keep what you do and believe in to yourself or share it with others who hold the same opinions.
Seeing a 'jesus loves you' billboard is as much a pain in the ass as some faggy liberals putting up a billboard with two blokes kissing, and a 'use a condom' slogan underneath!
Fuck you for making me look at your particular perversion (and yes, christianity is a perversion).
I don't demand signs be put up advertising the virtues of gun ownership, nor do I go around having a 'guitar pride' day.
My interests are my own and so should everybody else's be...
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See that is being fair to all parties! But here's the thing. What do you do when the issue of same sex marriage comes up in referendum? If you don't vote and it is passed, how will you feel when your kids are given pamphlets with kissing men, do's and don'ts of rimming (sp), etc?
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I think mostly they hate us gays because we won't stay in our closets any longer. Plus we stand up to them and don't crawl away. This totally pisses them off. And we dare to want Equality.

lol

Yes we are out of control. We are no longer controlled by those that use to try and control us.

Great times ahead.
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Thanks for posting. Maybe you can help me resolve something.

Lets suppose there is a gay couple who adopt a child. Bearing in mind that one's family structure is the basis of one's perception on life, how would that couple deal with the question of sexuality of their child? Remember that the child must be able to understand this very early on. Not like in traditional families where you can postpone the birds and bees story until later. Even at the age of 3, that child must be able to explain why he/she has two mommies or two daddies to other kids.
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1. Real Christians don't hate anyone. Being Homosexual is not a sin, but engaging in the lifestyle is. It took me a long time to get to why, and here's a little bit of it -

2. Sexual sin, failing to treat the body and sex as a sacred act of marriage designed towards procreation leads, eventually, to the breakdown of the family, the bedrock of society.

That's it in a nutshell. There are a lot of anti-Catholics on here, so I'm hesitant to say this, but if you really want to explore the reasons for the Christianity's opposition to the promotion of the gay lifestyle, the writings of the Popes provide very compelling and well-constructed arguments. One is Humanae Vitae, written by Pope Paul VI in the 1960s, in which he predicted that the snowball effect of approving the use of artificial birth control would lead to a culture of death. Everything he predicted has become reality in the United States. There is also John Paul II's 'Theology of the Body' which is beautiful.

Hope that helps to answer your question. I understand how it appears that this is an issue of equality. It took me a long time to come to terms with my position - I was very pro- gay marriage. (And there are actually some 'Christian' churches that endorse gay marriage - so it's not all of them, but I believe that those Churches are not correct in their views.
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I think mostly they hate us gays because we won't stay in our closets any longer. Plus we stand up to them and don't crawl away. This totally pisses them off. And we dare to want Equality.

lol

Yes we are out of control. We are no longer controlled by those that use to try and control us.

Great times ahead.
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Thanks for posting. Maybe you can help me resolve something.

Lets suppose there is a gay couple who adopt a child. Bearing in mind that one's family structure is the basis of one's perception on life, how would that couple deal with the question of sexuality of their child? Remember that the child must be able to understand this very early on. Not like in traditional families where you can postpone the birds and bees story until later. Even at the age of 3, that child must be able to explain why he/she has two mommies or two daddies to other kids.
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I think the easiest way to go with that is simply to tell them, some people happen to love someone different from them, and some people happen to love someone the same as them, and that neither one is wrong they are just different from each other. Pretty straight forward to me.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
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bsmeter2

Are you kidding me, they shove their penis in toxic faeces, they shove their penis in mouths, (which leads to oral cancer), homosexual sex acts are extremely unhealthy, yeah they're people like anyone is, but they do toxic sex acts and have no shame about it, the men do this becuase they have no vaginas and substitute other orifices, and they try to spread their sex acts to heterosexuals, because if they can do that, it makes it harder for people to object to their depraved and deviant behaviour.

I think you are a fake christian and a homosexual shill pretending to be christian. How full of guile. If you don't understand why homosexuality is wrong then you understand nothing about what is right or wrong. According to God it should be inscribed on your heart, you should feel repugnance and disgust for what they do, but you don't.
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Re: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
I am not a Christian. And I don't hate gays or anyone else. I am very
Placid and free of hate to all.

But I think faggotry is an unnatural thing. It's the sign of something wrong, not something to be paraded and Celebrated. I also dislike the way pro-faggot messages are constantly shoved in my face everywhere I go, like every TV shi w who has a wise or talented gay, every movie at lest mentions it, etc. And they teach about it in school now, with is wrong. Sexuality should be taught by parents, not school. Gay or straight.

People think they are special and seek special victimhood status, attention, etc based simply on being gay. They base their whole identity around what they do in the bedroom. Personally I base my identity around job and family accomplishments, not what my wife and I do in private time. If you want to be gay, go ahead: I just don want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about heterosexual practices of friends, neighbors, co-workers, and strangers, either.

All of the above is perfectly rational and has nothing to do with hate. But because the pro-fag crowd withers in the face of actual logic, all they can do is scree about "hate" and "discrimination." This is their way of avoid logical discourse.

Also, as a side-note, history teaches that acceptencs of faggotry and other perversions is a sign of a society in decline: Decadent declining Rome, late Ottoman empIre, Qing dynasty China, etc. It is a sign of a society that has lost respect for masculine ideals and has overemphasized femininity to the point of celebrating faggotry in men. Historically this is a sign of decline, with zero exceptions.
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This.
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Christians don't hate gays. Since there is no degree of sin, short of sacrificing your children, and ALL have sinned, no, we Christians are no better. However, there is the saying, "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

On the other hand, gays probably have a pretty good idea about what the Bible says about homosexuality, so they displace their anger over that to hapless Christians. Gays also don't want to be 'preached' to about their chosen way of life, because you know, it's all about them. What THEY want. In my opinion, most gays are the epitome of selfishness. When Jesus said 'Take up your cross and follow me', that 'cross' is all of the sinful behavior we partake in everyday. Gays don't want to give up their sinful behavior, and will lash out at anyone telling them to.

So no, we don't hate gays, but I bet most, myself included, would wish they would stop trying to get others to ENDORSE their lifestyle. That goes for Christians too, because Jesus never told his disciples to bludgeon people over the head with God's Word.
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So when are you going to wish that society would endorse not allowing divorce? The Bible mentions how bad divorce is more often then how bad being gay is. Stop being a hypocrite an start acting disgusted against every person you know that has gone through a divorce and call your congressmen to demand a ban on divorce!

(do note this is for Christians who are actively anti-gay, if you're not then this post was obviously not meant for you)
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I am Christian and I do not hate gays. I have no right to judge that is the job of Jesus Christ. Let he who has never sinned cast the first stone.
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Bravo!!!

hf

FAGS FUCK FECES!!!!

WHATS NOT to hate about THAT?
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Sodomy isn't exclusive to gay people.

Don't worry eventually we gay will attain Equality and things will return to normal whatever that is.

It is good that so many are speaking out in favor of us finally. How many years did we have to put up with all that nasty crap? U think it's ok for us to have a little lime light now.

I also rather enjoy the GAY being rubbed in the noses or down the throats as they claim. I see it as payback is a bitch time.

Some of us Gays just get a kick out of making the knuckle draggers flip out.

Can you really blame us ?
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Many people are speaking out because more gay people are coming out. That's just my opnion. In the past, it seemed being gay was a rare thing and so most people had never met or known a gay person.

My turning point was finding out two friends of mine (guys) were a couple. I was a serious anti-gay person before that. Since I got to know them as people before finding out they were gay, it was impossible for me not to realize that something wasn't right with my beliefs.
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Many people are speaking out because more gay people are coming out. That's just my opnion. In the past, it seemed being gay was a rare thing and so most people had never met or known a gay person.

My turning point was finding out two friends of mine (guys) were a couple. I was a serious anti-gay person before that. Since I got to know them as people before finding out they were gay, it was impossible for me not to realize that something wasn't right with my beliefs.
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I think when it comes to spiritual beliefs the easiest way to tell if something is beneficial or not is to ask if it is loving. In this case, it'd be is it loving or something you'd expect of a God supposed to be better than you are, to outcast someone simply because they love someone of the same sex and wish to be with them. If it's not, then it can't be something of God if God is supposed to be loving.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

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Re: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
1. Real Christians don't hate anyone. Being Homosexual is not a sin, but engaging in the lifestyle is. It took me a long time to get to why, and here's a little bit of it -

2. Sexual sin, failing to treat the body and sex as a sacred act of marriage designed towards procreation leads, eventually, to the breakdown of the family, the bedrock of society.

That's it in a nutshell. There are a lot of anti-Catholics on here, so I'm hesitant to say this, but if you really want to explore the reasons for the Christianity's opposition to the promotion of the gay lifestyle, the writings of the Popes provide very compelling and well-constructed arguments. One is Humanae Vitae, written by Pope Paul VI in the 1960s, in which he predicted that the snowball effect of approving the use of artificial birth control would lead to a culture of death. Everything he predicted has become reality in the United States. There is also John Paul II's 'Theology of the Body' which is beautiful.

Hope that helps to answer your question. I understand how it appears that this is an issue of equality. It took me a long time to come to terms with my position - I was very pro- gay marriage. (And there are actually some 'Christian' churches that endorse gay marriage - so it's not all of them, but I believe that those Churches are not correct in their views.
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Thanks. I will read up on those.

If sexual sin means having sex without the goal of procreation, boy are we all in trouble.
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I am Christian and I do not hate gays. I have no right to judge that is the job of Jesus Christ. Let he who has never sinned cast the first stone.
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Bravo!!!

hf

FAGS FUCK FECES!!!!

WHATS NOT to hate about THAT?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34823963


Sodomy isn't exclusive to gay people.

Don't worry eventually we gay will attain Equality and things will return to normal whatever that is.

It is good that so many are speaking out in favor of us finally. How many years did we have to put up with all that nasty crap? U think it's ok for us to have a little lime light now.

I also rather enjoy the GAY being rubbed in the noses or down the throats as they claim. I see it as payback is a bitch time.

Some of us Gays just get a kick out of making the knuckle draggers flip out.

Can you really blame us ?
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Many people are speaking out because more gay people are coming out. That's just my opnion. In the past, it seemed being gay was a rare thing and so most people had never met or known a gay person.

My turning point was finding out two friends of mine (guys) were a couple. I was a serious anti-gay person before that. Since I got to know them as people before finding out they were gay, it was impossible for me not to realize that something wasn't right with my beliefs.
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shill

Would you stop trolling this site with your faggot propaganda?
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FAGS FUCK FECES!!!!

WHATS NOT to hate about THAT?
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So do the majority of heteros.
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Yeah..and its fucking SICK.

But fags do it EXCLUSIVLEY!

When a hetero does it..they are being kinky..doing something "Taboo"..

So how much sicker does it become when its done ALL the time on the SAME sex?
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You tell us. 34,4% more sick? .. 180% ? 1000%!?!

I mean..where is the sexual thrill of fucking the shit inside another mans..most probably aids infested shit filled asshole?
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You need to ask that someone who does that, really. Or maybe just go and try it yourself, if it keeps you awake in the night?

And these sicko fucks claim they are BORN to fuck shit??
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Most humans can't fuck a shit (pun intended) before reaching around 12-15 years of age.. It's called puberty, check some encyclopedia to gain some insight into the issue.

For gay people, from what I have learned, it goes quite a lot like with straight people:

People discover their genitals, start to play with them and learn how to masturbate. (I know.. it's forbidden and sodomy and whatnot. But it's just so hard to maintain a population if you just stone to death or burn alive every boy or girl who masturbates and does the sin of Onan. You hardly have anyone alive to be married when they reach 18 years olf old.)

Then there is this interest to some person, this "getting to know you" thing.. hugging.. touching and keeping hands.. all that awesome shit. (well, some people just get drunk, go go bar and get straight to the "action", but.. for the younger ones..)

Then some people dare to kiss some naked skin, besides some SICK KISSING ON THE MOUTH and some EVEN MORE SICK KISSING INSIDE THE MOUTH.. with TONGUE and all.. yack.. some AIDS infested, bacteria ridden disgusting MOUTH .. which should be used for breathing, eating, drinking and spitting ONLY!

Then there is this petting thing.. inside and outside the pants and bras and whatnot.

Awyways.. then there might become some disgusting and filthy kissing of naked skin of the rest of the body. Licking some bacteria ridden, sweaty, stinky and dead cell filled, rotten skin.. God forbid..

After that some go for handjob.. putting your hands to that place where only ONE THING should go.. I cannot even talk about it.. so utterly horrible it is. Penis.. or Vagina.. ohh.. the agony..

After some "practice" some people might get into dildos and leather and role playing and erotic massages and God knows what other filthy things to have some FUN and PLEASURE.

I once even heard about a sodomite who used his FINGERS to pleasure a woman instead of his God given penis, which apparently failed and ejaculated too soon.. that poor sodomite. I hope they at least stoned him to death gently..

GET FUCKING REAL!
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Can't get much more real than that, really. Unless you actually go and google some stuff or - even better - get a real friends and ask about them what they do to enjoy sex. You might get surprised thou, better be close to some ER in case it's too much for you to handle.

They are mentally and pshycotically diseased sick fucks that should be shot on fucking sight.
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Which ones you meant, already forgot? The ones who did oral, dildos, fingers.. or all of them? Besides those couples who do it the NATURAL AND ONLY RIGHT WAY (missionary style, under the sheets, in a dark bedroom after 22 o'clock) but still fail to deliver a baby after each and every ejaculation - not to talk about straight men who cannot ejaculate properly or have some other sexual problems?
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I think mostly they hate us gays because we won't stay in our closets any longer. Plus we stand up to them and don't crawl away. This totally pisses them off. And we dare to want Equality.

lol

Yes we are out of control. We are no longer controlled by those that use to try and control us.

Great times ahead.
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Thanks for posting. Maybe you can help me resolve something.

Lets suppose there is a gay couple who adopt a child. Bearing in mind that one's family structure is the basis of one's perception on life, how would that couple deal with the question of sexuality of their child? Remember that the child must be able to understand this very early on. Not like in traditional families where you can postpone the birds and bees story until later. Even at the age of 3, that child must be able to explain why he/she has two mommies or two daddies to other kids.
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I think the easiest way to go with that is simply to tell them, some people happen to love someone different from them, and some people happen to love someone the same as them, and that neither one is wrong they are just different from each other. Pretty straight forward to me.
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Straight forward? I don't think so. I have 3 kids. 2 boys and a girl - all below 10 years. Explaining divorce has been very difficult and is still an ongoing thing. I can't imagine how difficult it is for a child's psyche to have a different family structure. That's what it boils down to essentially. Being different. If a divorce can have such a huge impact on kids, then imagine coming from a same sex home.
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So, you do oral and anal sex OP? of course people who do those filthy acts have no grounds to object to homosexuality. But some of us find those acts disgusting and repulsive, regardless of how of the promotion of these unhealthy and depraved acts.

So come clean OP, do you practice homosexual sex acts in your relationship, if so, you are not a heterosexual and you should not claim to be one.
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I think mostly they hate us gays because we won't stay in our closets any longer. Plus we stand up to them and don't crawl away. This totally pisses them off. And we dare to want Equality.

lol

Yes we are out of control. We are no longer controlled by those that use to try and control us.

Great times ahead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1254761


Thanks for posting. Maybe you can help me resolve something.

Lets suppose there is a gay couple who adopt a child. Bearing in mind that one's family structure is the basis of one's perception on life, how would that couple deal with the question of sexuality of their child? Remember that the child must be able to understand this very early on. Not like in traditional families where you can postpone the birds and bees story until later. Even at the age of 3, that child must be able to explain why he/she has two mommies or two daddies to other kids.
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I think the easiest way to go with that is simply to tell them, some people happen to love someone different from them, and some people happen to love someone the same as them, and that neither one is wrong they are just different from each other. Pretty straight forward to me.
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Straight forward? I don't think so. I have 3 kids. 2 boys and a girl - all below 10 years. Explaining divorce has been very difficult and is still an ongoing thing. I can't imagine how difficult it is for a child's psyche to have a different family structure. That's what it boils down to essentially. Being different. If a divorce can have such a huge impact on kids, then imagine coming from a same sex home.
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I really don't think it's all that difficult if you put in a way they can understand like to say: "well mommie loves your other mommie, but some mommie's love a daddy, or some daddies love another daddie" explaining the differences the best you can and making it clear none of them are wrong it is just who those people happen to love. I think kids are smarter than we give them credit for, and most judgments tend to be taught to them more than learned.

Divorce is a whole other situation really I think, course it's gonna hurt them because they will miss their mommy or their daddy, I don't think it can be compared to homosexuality because in that case they aren't missing someone they are close to as they would in a divorce case. It's entirely different.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."

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