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Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?

 
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bsmeter2

Are you kidding me, they shove their penis in toxic faeces, they shove their penis in mouths, (which leads to oral cancer), homosexual sex acts are extremely unhealthy, yeah they're people like anyone is, but they do toxic sex acts and have no shame about it, the men do this becuase they have no vaginas and substitute other orifices, and they try to spread their sex acts to heterosexuals, because if they can do that, it makes it harder for people to object to their depraved and deviant behaviour.

I think you are a fake christian and a homosexual shill pretending to be christian. How full of guile. If you don't understand why homosexuality is wrong then you understand nothing about what is right or wrong. According to God it should be inscribed on your heart, you should feel repugnance and disgust for what they do, but you don't.
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All the acts you've mentioned are also hetero acts. To say they are imposed on heteros by gays is plain stupid and a lie.

But thanks for posting. You are exactly the kind of Christian I was referring to. The kind that doesn't even realize that while seeming all sanctimonious, you have just sinned. The kind that is probably up to something fishy since you have taken it upon yourself to declare others fake Christians.

Clearly, you are also intellectually challenged. You either can't read and therefore just reacted to your own imagination of my post, or you simply failed in reading comprehension in school. Which is it?
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bsmeter2

Are you kidding me, they shove their penis in toxic faeces, they shove their penis in mouths, (which leads to oral cancer), homosexual sex acts are extremely unhealthy, yeah they're people like anyone is, but they do toxic sex acts and have no shame about it, the men do this becuase they have no vaginas and substitute other orifices, and they try to spread their sex acts to heterosexuals, because if they can do that, it makes it harder for people to object to their depraved and deviant behaviour.

I think you are a fake christian and a homosexual shill pretending to be christian. How full of guile. If you don't understand why homosexuality is wrong then you understand nothing about what is right or wrong. According to God it should be inscribed on your heart, you should feel repugnance and disgust for what they do, but you don't.
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All the acts you've mentioned are also hetero acts. To say they are imposed on heteros by gays is plain stupid and a lie.

But thanks for posting. You are exactly the kind of Christian I was referring to. The kind that doesn't even realize that while seeming all sanctimonious, you have just sinned. The kind that is probably up to something fishy since you have taken it upon yourself to declare others fake Christians.

Clearly, you are also intellectually challenged. You either can't read and therefore just reacted to your own imagination of my post, or you simply failed in reading comprehension in school. Which is it?
 Quoting: Nefertiti


Clearly you are a faggot shill pretending to be straight, we get them here a lot, it's boring.

Homosexual acts are not heterosexual acts, never have been never will be, women have an orifice called a vagina, there is no need for them to substitute other orifices because of a lack of one. God told the faithful to keep away from the sexual practices of the heathen.
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1. Real Christians don't hate anyone. Being Homosexual is not a sin, but engaging in the lifestyle is. It took me a long time to get to why, and here's a little bit of it -

2. Sexual sin, failing to treat the body and sex as a sacred act of marriage designed towards procreation leads, eventually, to the breakdown of the family, the bedrock of society.

That's it in a nutshell. There are a lot of anti-Catholics on here, so I'm hesitant to say this, but if you really want to explore the reasons for the Christianity's opposition to the promotion of the gay lifestyle, the writings of the Popes provide very compelling and well-constructed arguments. One is Humanae Vitae, written by Pope Paul VI in the 1960s, in which he predicted that the snowball effect of approving the use of artificial birth control would lead to a culture of death. Everything he predicted has become reality in the United States. There is also John Paul II's 'Theology of the Body' which is beautiful.

Hope that helps to answer your question. I understand how it appears that this is an issue of equality. It took me a long time to come to terms with my position - I was very pro- gay marriage. (And there are actually some 'Christian' churches that endorse gay marriage - so it's not all of them, but I believe that those Churches are not correct in their views.
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Thanks. I will read up on those.

If sexual sin means having sex without the goal of procreation, boy are we all in trouble.
 Quoting: Nefertiti


I would disagree with number 2



1 Corinthians 7:3-5

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"Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband."

"The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife."

"Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency."
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yuh, OP is a faggot shill.
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Don't worry eventually we gay will attain Equality and things will return to normal whatever that is.

It is good that so many are speaking out in favor of us finally. How many years did we have to put up with all that nasty crap? U think it's ok for us to have a little lime light now.

I also rather enjoy the GAY being rubbed in the noses or down the throats as they claim. I see it as payback is a bitch time.

Some of us Gays just get a kick out of making the knuckle draggers flip out.

Can you really blame us ?
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Romans 1:32
"Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."

This is the end of a reprobate mind: they will continue to do the very things despite knowing God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, but will also approve of those who practice them. Therefore, conversely, they will disapprove of all who will not practice such things. We see this today in your vindictive words and lust for "payback".

But what you reject is knowledge: reprobation is wrath. Just as God presses the mind of Christians to produce good fruit in accordance with His will, wrath presses the minds of those who reject creation to produce the bad fruit of that mind. Homosexuality is one such fruit of those who reject Him as Creator. This pressing of your mind will produce every bit of evil fruit within you and will drive you to stack up the very deeds and works by which you will be judged. Your vindictive words would shout for joy the day every child of heterosexuals must be taught sodomy as normal because your mind is consumed under relentless wrath to produce such behaviour.

Knowing this, should you be cheering your vindictiveness or humbling yourself before a most merciful God? Should you be continuing to cheer your reprobation or asking for mercy and forgiveness from the most merciful of God? Every single civilisation in its last stage was characterised by its friendliness and acceptance with such behaviours. So what I see is what you don't - civilisations deluded into not recognising that the manifestations occurring within our own nations today does not bode well for any of us. Try reading the pink swatiska and understand that though your leaders are pushing and leading you to break up families and to destroy stability, the same outcome will happen in the end - your destruction. See, these leaders use you to accomplish their goal, and once that goal comes to power, there is no further need for you. In fact, you become a huge liability because they know the destabilisation in society that you cause.

You can either come to the realisation of who your true enemy is - those in wicked power who give you the freedom to accomplish their goals, and who WILL also destroy you once that goal is reached - or remaining in the dark that Christ is not nor has ever been your enemy. He came to save the world. But in your reprobate mind, you seek to do its wicked deeds. And by His wrath, you WILL DO SO. This is not a game and until you sit down and seriously examine yourself to determine why you allow such ruthless and vindictive thoughts to race in your mind, you will NEVER stop to see that your lust of revenge is going to kill YOU. In your lust of vindictiveness and revenge, you seek to harm me and erase the very words of the one who came to SAVE this world. Instead, you choose those wicked men who've simply given you a noose by which they will hang you once you have accomplished their purpose. Don't you see that? Can you not sense it?

They do not love you in the least. But What is real love? That Jesus Christ died for you whilst you were yet a sinner. Those in power have your death already planned and it's only you that cannot see the writing on the wall. Why? Your mind is consumed by its lusts, and as such, you will not see what is going to blindside you. Study the Pink Swatiska. Study what happened in the Soviet Union. Homosexuality was encouraged and used to destabilise society to accomplish their goals, then they were systematically killed once that goal came to fruition. Knowing this, my words to you are not to condemn or judge you. In fact, may the God of Heaven and Earth use these words to you to bring you to a right mind and to His saving mercy through Jesus Christ - the Saviour of the World and the author of salvation. May He show you mercy and peace and reveal that He is not your enemy and may He show you what type of men truly are your enemies - the very ones allowing you to destroy the minds of innocent children and to persecute those who bring the saving message of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Many people are speaking out because more gay people are coming out. That's just my opnion. In the past, it seemed being gay was a rare thing and so most people had never met or known a gay person.

My turning point was finding out two friends of mine (guys) were a couple. I was a serious anti-gay person before that. Since I got to know them as people before finding out they were gay, it was impossible for me not to realize that something wasn't right with my beliefs.
 Quoting: Nefertiti


I think when it comes to spiritual beliefs the easiest way to tell if something is beneficial or not is to ask if it is loving. In this case, it'd be is it loving or something you'd expect of a God supposed to be better than you are, to outcast someone simply because they love someone of the same sex and wish to be with them. If it's not, then it can't be something of God if God is supposed to be loving.
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It wasn't about my spiritual beliefs. I knew then as I know now that hating people is wrong. You hate the sin. But I was vehemently anti-gay. Wouldn't even waste a second considering the alternative.

I think the more people know gay people as individuals, the more they will change their hardcore stance. It won't change how they feel about the sexual acts. Personally, I really don't get it. But I also have been told by my friends that they find heterosexual sex disgusting. Really? That shocked me. Knowing my friends the way I do, they aren't lying. Why choose such a lifestyle in such a hostile society? For them, it wasn't a choice.

Do they believe in God? Yes, absolutely. Are they torn up by the fact that Christianity doesn't accept homosexuality? Very much. Am I a good Christian if I am still kind and loving towards gay people? I think yes. Does it bother me that this is a sin which it seems is hard to simply repent and stop committing? Absolutely. It also bothers me that any of my children could turn out to be gay. I don't want that for them and would move mountains to stop it. But if one of them did, what would I do? Would I stop loving them? Would I be comfortable in a church where my child can't fit in when I know that so many other members including myself are committing sins regularly?

So many questions....very few answers.
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bsmeter2

Are you kidding me, they shove their penis in toxic faeces, they shove their penis in mouths, (which leads to oral cancer), homosexual sex acts are extremely unhealthy, yeah they're people like anyone is, but they do toxic sex acts and have no shame about it, the men do this becuase they have no vaginas and substitute other orifices, and they try to spread their sex acts to heterosexuals, because if they can do that, it makes it harder for people to object to their depraved and deviant behaviour.

I think you are a fake christian and a homosexual shill pretending to be christian. How full of guile. If you don't understand why homosexuality is wrong then you understand nothing about what is right or wrong. According to God it should be inscribed on your heart, you should feel repugnance and disgust for what they do, but you don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3990145


All the acts you've mentioned are also hetero acts. To say they are imposed on heteros by gays is plain stupid and a lie.

But thanks for posting. You are exactly the kind of Christian I was referring to. The kind that doesn't even realize that while seeming all sanctimonious, you have just sinned. The kind that is probably up to something fishy since you have taken it upon yourself to declare others fake Christians.

Clearly, you are also intellectually challenged. You either can't read and therefore just reacted to your own imagination of my post, or you simply failed in reading comprehension in school. Which is it?
 Quoting: Nefertiti


Clearly you are a faggot shill pretending to be straight, we get them here a lot, it's boring.

Homosexual acts are not heterosexual acts, never have been never will be, women have an orifice called a vagina, there is no need for them to substitute other orifices because of a lack of one. God told the faithful to keep away from the sexual practices of the heathen.
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Let me ignore your insult and just look at your point. (We could trade insults forever).

"Homosexual acts are not heterosexual acts, never have been never will be,"

You should have stopped right there. Sexual acts between a male and female are not homosexual acts. On that we both agree. Now when you talk about vaginas, I wonder if you forgot what you posted before. The acts you mentioned were anal and oral. Both things that some heterosexuals engage in. Are those heathen acts considering they do not involve vaginas? If so, then condemn all who engage in them, not just homosexuals.
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1. Real Christians don't hate anyone. Being Homosexual is not a sin, but engaging in the lifestyle is. It took me a long time to get to why, and here's a little bit of it -

2. Sexual sin, failing to treat the body and sex as a sacred act of marriage designed towards procreation leads, eventually, to the breakdown of the family, the bedrock of society.

That's it in a nutshell. There are a lot of anti-Catholics on here, so I'm hesitant to say this, but if you really want to explore the reasons for the Christianity's opposition to the promotion of the gay lifestyle, the writings of the Popes provide very compelling and well-constructed arguments. One is Humanae Vitae, written by Pope Paul VI in the 1960s, in which he predicted that the snowball effect of approving the use of artificial birth control would lead to a culture of death. Everything he predicted has become reality in the United States. There is also John Paul II's 'Theology of the Body' which is beautiful.

Hope that helps to answer your question. I understand how it appears that this is an issue of equality. It took me a long time to come to terms with my position - I was very pro- gay marriage. (And there are actually some 'Christian' churches that endorse gay marriage - so it's not all of them, but I believe that those Churches are not correct in their views.
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Thanks. I will read up on those.

If sexual sin means having sex without the goal of procreation, boy are we all in trouble.
 Quoting: Nefertiti


I would disagree with number 2



1 Corinthians 7:3-5

King James Version (KJV)


"Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband."

"The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife."

"Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency."
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Whew!

hf
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Many people are speaking out because more gay people are coming out. That's just my opnion. In the past, it seemed being gay was a rare thing and so most people had never met or known a gay person.

My turning point was finding out two friends of mine (guys) were a couple. I was a serious anti-gay person before that. Since I got to know them as people before finding out they were gay, it was impossible for me not to realize that something wasn't right with my beliefs.
 Quoting: Nefertiti


I think when it comes to spiritual beliefs the easiest way to tell if something is beneficial or not is to ask if it is loving. In this case, it'd be is it loving or something you'd expect of a God supposed to be better than you are, to outcast someone simply because they love someone of the same sex and wish to be with them. If it's not, then it can't be something of God if God is supposed to be loving.
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It wasn't about my spiritual beliefs. I knew then as I know now that hating people is wrong. You hate the sin. But I was vehemently anti-gay. Wouldn't even waste a second considering the alternative.

I think the more people know gay people as individuals, the more they will change their hardcore stance. It won't change how they feel about the sexual acts. Personally, I really don't get it. But I also have been told by my friends that they find heterosexual sex disgusting. Really? That shocked me. Knowing my friends the way I do, they aren't lying. Why choose such a lifestyle in such a hostile society? For them, it wasn't a choice.

Do they believe in God? Yes, absolutely. Are they torn up by the fact that Christianity doesn't accept homosexuality? Very much. Am I a good Christian if I am still kind and loving towards gay people? I think yes. Does it bother me that this is a sin which it seems is hard to simply repent and stop committing? Absolutely. It also bothers me that any of my children could turn out to be gay. I don't want that for them and would move mountains to stop it. But if one of them did, what would I do? Would I stop loving them? Would I be comfortable in a church where my child can't fit in when I know that so many other members including myself are committing sins regularly?

So many questions....very few answers.
 Quoting: Nefertiti


I got one for you........how do you know what sin is? How do you know sin in the form you know it to be even exists? Did God itself directly come down and tell you that or did man?

Who is defining it? And is it loving to be taught that things that don't harm anyone else are to be seen as such?

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No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Homosexuals infringe on the majority to destroy democracy and are part of a larger Marxist agenda.
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Marxist? Please explain.
 Quoting: Nefertiti


Pretty simple
gays have a totally different set of priorities that are in direct opposition to straight life and societies perpetuation

They dont have a need for schools other than as a source of young lovers
they dont have concerns for saving for a future generation, they live in the right now and fear the future,
They have no need for limits and rules, their private practices are focused especially on breaking them, often intentionally in front of others with no interest in being involved, ie they have a cultural need for outraging breeders.
They have no reason to conserve, they worship consumption and luxury to extremes and risks to themselves and others.
They have no need for religions of any sort, because they cant abide restrictions for their kinks are all about intentionally ignoring them,
And in the end, since they gene rate no family to support them in their old age, they seek to subvert govt benefits designed to support FAMILIES who've supported and sacrificed to perpetuate society, into providing cash and benefits first and foremost for gays which have provided nothing for their own support and tend to disable themselves and infect themselves at a disproportionate rate compared to straights.


They may nob be intentionally evil, but they are poison and cancer to the longevity of any civilization, and have never been granted equal rights in any pagan or christian culture.
Its one thing to be born gay, and another to act out as gay.
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I don't need to read your expose... You're gay -- good for you... now go away. I've turned homophobic after what your mafia has done to my country for the last 60 years... (am I wrong)? No.
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I'm not gay.

What have the gays done to the US?
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when humans pervert laws of nature there are consequences!!

and

P.S. the majority of christians believe the eternal laws were abolished so yes, Christians pervert it TOO!!

and that is our downfall ....the laws were given for health and prosperity ....

if we followed the eternal laws/laws of nature we would prosper
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They may nob be intentionally evil, but they are poison and cancer to the longevity of any civilization, and have never been granted equal rights in any pagan or christian culture.
Its one thing to be born gay, and another to act out as gay.
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so you're basically telling them they can't be who they are......yeah that's loving isn't it? What if someone said to you you couldn't act on your heterosexual desires, would you like that much? Somehow I don't think so......
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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I only read the title and won't read the rest of this thread.

just

because

it is not true that Christians hate homosexuals

we [Christians] are against homosexuality

in case you do not know the difference yet,

get educated first

before you speak in public.
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Indeed...

Our Heavenly Father loves the SINNER but hate the sin

hf
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bsmeter2

Are you kidding me, they shove their penis in toxic faeces, they shove their penis in mouths, (which leads to oral cancer), homosexual sex acts are extremely unhealthy, yeah they're people like anyone is, but they do toxic sex acts and have no shame about it, the men do this becuase they have no vaginas and substitute other orifices, and they try to spread their sex acts to heterosexuals, because if they can do that, it makes it harder for people to object to their depraved and deviant behaviour.

I think you are a fake christian and a homosexual shill pretending to be christian. How full of guile. If you don't understand why homosexuality is wrong then you understand nothing about what is right or wrong. According to God it should be inscribed on your heart, you should feel repugnance and disgust for what they do, but you don't.
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All the acts you've mentioned are also hetero acts. To say they are imposed on heteros by gays is plain stupid and a lie.

But thanks for posting. You are exactly the kind of Christian I was referring to. The kind that doesn't even realize that while seeming all sanctimonious, you have just sinned. The kind that is probably up to something fishy since you have taken it upon yourself to declare others fake Christians.

Clearly, you are also intellectually challenged. You either can't read and therefore just reacted to your own imagination of my post, or you simply failed in reading comprehension in school. Which is it?
 Quoting: Nefertiti


Clearly you are a faggot shill pretending to be straight, we get them here a lot, it's boring.

Homosexual acts are not heterosexual acts, never have been never will be, women have an orifice called a vagina, there is no need for them to substitute other orifices because of a lack of one. God told the faithful to keep away from the sexual practices of the heathen.
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Let me ignore your insult and just look at your point. (We could trade insults forever).

"Homosexual acts are not heterosexual acts, never have been never will be,"

You should have stopped right there. Sexual acts between a male and female are not homosexual acts. On that we both agree. Now when you talk about vaginas, I wonder if you forgot what you posted before. The acts you mentioned were anal and oral. Both things that some heterosexuals engage in. Are those heathen acts considering they do not involve vaginas? If so, then condemn all who engage in them, not just homosexuals.
 Quoting: Nefertiti


Yes, genuine christian heteros do not engage in these acts, if they have in the past due to the relentless promotion in the lamestream media, they should have repented and turned away from them, otherwise they are like a dog returning to it's vomit. These acts are condemmed.
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No offence to people who do what they do. Do what you like in the privacy of your own place...............If it don't hurt you then enjoy the experience....But me being of somewhat of a mechanical mind I would only have one thing to add to this discussion.........

Things are designed for a reason. There are one way valves, and there are receptive valves............

Some things are meant to fit certain things. Most things work as nature intended. Nature and the natural order of things are just they way they are.....

I;m trying to not be offensive here but I will state what I have come to notice................

Babies wear nappies............Men do not...

Once A man, twice a child, does have nothing to do with societal mechanics.
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None taken.

hf
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hf..Thank you. No offence intended...
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I am a believer and personally do not know any Christians who espouse hatred for gays .
There is a gay person that I am quite fond of , he is a great guy .
It gets challenging inside for me because I do resent the way it is being shoved down our throats and it is unnatural for a society and will eventually be a factor in its demise as in the past .
The Bible has some strong words against homosexuality as well as other sins.
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All white people are homos
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They may nob be intentionally evil, but they are poison and cancer to the longevity of any civilization, and have never been granted equal rights in any pagan or christian culture.
Its one thing to be born gay, and another to act out as gay.
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so you're basically telling them they can't be who they are......yeah that's loving isn't it? What if someone said to you you couldn't act on your heterosexual desires, would you like that much? Somehow I don't think so......
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promiscuity, irresponsibility and excess have consequences for any practitioner.
Love and sex are two different things, and your pretending they are inexorably linked doesnt make it so.
Gays have been taught that excess is desireable, if they didnt start out toxic, they were made toxic.
The value of any act is judged by the consequences of the act, and gay sex has only negative potential consequence.
Its not a matter of any doctrine, its a matter of risk benefit ratio in a natural sense, and socially there is no benefit for gay sexuality. It's one thing to allow it to occur at some relatively safe level, and quite another to exhalt it and promote it as a lifestyle.
Breeders dont make their sexuality their lifestyle, it's coincidental for most and loses its priority with child rearing.
Gays make it the centerpiec of their identity, and that emphasis and lack of moderating resposnibility is the problem.
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True Christians don't hate anyone! We are to love the person, but hate the sin. That's includes all sin, not just homosexuality
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Christians don't hate gays. Since there is no degree of sin, short of sacrificing your children, and ALL have sinned, no, we Christians are no better. However, there is the saying, "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

On the other hand, gays probably have a pretty good idea about what the Bible says about homosexuality, so they displace their anger over that to hapless Christians. Gays also don't want to be 'preached' to about their chosen way of life, because you know, it's all about them. What THEY want. In my opinion, most gays are the epitome of selfishness. When Jesus said 'Take up your cross and follow me', that 'cross' is all of the sinful behavior we partake in everyday. Gays don't want to give up their sinful behavior, and will lash out at anyone telling them to.

So no, we don't hate gays, but I bet most, myself included, would wish they would stop trying to get others to ENDORSE their lifestyle. That goes for Christians too, because Jesus never told his disciples to bludgeon people over the head with God's Word.
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The Christians I know are pretty kind and loving .Some love to paint Christians as hateful and intolerant .That is not how we follow our Lord .Sometimes I have wondered if the Westboro Baptist crazies are plants to feed that perception.
Personally I think some of the hater accusations against Christians are really anger towards God and his rules ,which he gave us for our own good as in the ten commandments. Homosexuality is clearly not in His list of things to do in the Bible .
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They may nob be intentionally evil, but they are poison and cancer to the longevity of any civilization, and have never been granted equal rights in any pagan or christian culture.
Its one thing to be born gay, and another to act out as gay.
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so you're basically telling them they can't be who they are......yeah that's loving isn't it? What if someone said to you you couldn't act on your heterosexual desires, would you like that much? Somehow I don't think so......
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promiscuity, irresponsibility and excess have consequences for any practitioner.
Love and sex are two different things, and your pretending they are inexorably linked doesnt make it so.
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That goes for both sides though......who are we exactly to judge a couple that loves each other and desires sex? It should not be an issue, gay or not.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

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I am a believer and personally do not know any Christians who espouse hatred for gays .
There is a gay person that I am quite fond of , he is a great guy .
It gets challenging inside for me because I do resent the way it is being shoved down our throats and it is unnatural for a society and will eventually be a factor in its demise as in the past .
The Bible has some strong words against homosexuality as well as other sins.
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TRUTH

Hate is a creation of the gays, a straw man ushed to justity hate of breeders, there being far more and greater Heterophobia than any true homophobia.

The simple fact is that those who dont follow Christs precise teachings are not true Christians.
Its curious the hebrew religion proscribes death for gays, as does the muzz religion, yet its them that practice it and promote it and punishin it all at the same time, and yet its only christians accused as haters where there is not one word of punishment in the words of Jesus.
Just another example of the chosen smearing others for what they themselves do, the goal is to defame the only religion that preaches forgiveness and tolerance when the real culprit is judeochristianity, which is mostly the former and almost none of the latter which only serves the purpose of taking all the blame off the chosen
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I just wish for one day to go by where I didn't have to hear about people that think an anus is a pussy.
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I'm a Christian and like others have absolutely No hate or hard feelings against homosexuals because of their illness. I Do hate how they bully everyone else. Aka redefining agrriage, boy scouts, and the rest of that Crap.
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They may nob be intentionally evil, but they are poison and cancer to the longevity of any civilization, and have never been granted equal rights in any pagan or christian culture.
Its one thing to be born gay, and another to act out as gay.
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so you're basically telling them they can't be who they are......yeah that's loving isn't it? What if someone said to you you couldn't act on your heterosexual desires, would you like that much? Somehow I don't think so......
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promiscuity, irresponsibility and excess have consequences for any practitioner.
Love and sex are two different things, and your pretending they are inexorably linked doesnt make it so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39054695


That goes for both sides though......who are we exactly to judge a couple that loves each other and desires sex? It should not be an issue, gay or not.
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oh Please, dont bother trying to associate transient gay lusts for love. I know more about your kind than you think.
Transient hookups dont count as love, bathhouses and public toilets dont count as love. This is no different between gays and straights, its just most straights eventually grow up, and gays stay little boys until they die, usually unloved and alone.
Love, as intended is rare enough among straights, and relatively nonexistant among the immature emotional state that gays have, basically imagining that their desire and lust is real love.
When living in an arrested narcissist state, love isnt involved, at least not mature, enduring, forgiving and sacrificing love that's needed for proper child rearing.
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so you're basically telling them they can't be who they are......yeah that's loving isn't it? What if someone said to you you couldn't act on your heterosexual desires, would you like that much? Somehow I don't think so......
 Quoting: ajk


promiscuity, irresponsibility and excess have consequences for any practitioner.
Love and sex are two different things, and your pretending they are inexorably linked doesnt make it so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39054695


That goes for both sides though......who are we exactly to judge a couple that loves each other and desires sex? It should not be an issue, gay or not.
 Quoting: ajk


oh Please, dont bother trying to associate transient gay lusts for love. I know more about your kind than you think.
Transient hookups dont count as love, bathhouses and public toilets dont count as love. This is no different between gays and straights, its just most straights eventually grow up, and gays stay little boys until they die, usually unloved and alone.
Love, as intended is rare enough among straights, and relatively nonexistant among the immature emotional state that gays have, basically imagining that their desire and lust is real love.
When living in an arrested narcissist state, love isnt involved, at least not mature, enduring, forgiving and sacrificing love that's needed for proper child rearing.
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You are so biased it's unbelievable...just cause you don't see strong gay relationships doesn't mean they don't exist. Get over yourself dude, there's a lot more to life than what you see in your corner of it.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
promiscuity, irresponsibility and excess have consequences for any practitioner.
Love and sex are two different things, and your pretending they are inexorably linked doesnt make it so.
Gays have been taught that excess is desireable, if they didnt start out toxic, they were made toxic.
The value of any act is judged by the consequences of the act, and gay sex has only negative potential consequence.
Its not a matter of any doctrine, its a matter of risk benefit ratio in a natural sense, and socially there is no benefit for gay sexuality. It's one thing to allow it to occur at some relatively safe level, and quite another to exhalt it and promote it as a lifestyle.
Breeders dont make their sexuality their lifestyle, it's coincidental for most and loses its priority with child rearing.
Gays make it the centerpiec of their identity, and that emphasis and lack of moderating resposnibility is the problem.
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The Christians I know are pretty kind and loving .Some love to paint Christians as hateful and intolerant .That is not how we follow our Lord .Sometimes I have wondered if the Westboro Baptist crazies are plants to feed that perception.
Personally I think some of the hater accusations against Christians are really anger towards God and his rules ,which he gave us for our own good as in the ten commandments. Homosexuality is clearly not in His list of things to do in the Bible .


yuh, the haters of God are projecting their hatred onto others, scapegoat style.
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I'm a Christian and like others have absolutely No hate or hard feelings against homosexuals because of their illness. I Do hate how they bully everyone else. Aka redefining agrriage, boy scouts, and the rest of that Crap.
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The difference between gays and Christians is that Christians ask if you'd like to be like them,
Gays demand you like them and tolerate them and stop being yourself.

Its gays, being the immature narcissists that underlie everything they perceive that are intolerant.
What they want is everyone to tolerate them, while they demand everyone keep their opinions to themselves and do what theyre told.
Again, even in pagan times no gay rights were granted, because it simply understood as a dead end with no benefit to the group.
It's not hate that prevents promotion of gayness, its the realization of the ultimate outcome and its eventual waste of resources and diffusion of priorities that make it impossible to sustain itself.
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Love, as intended is rare enough among straights, and relatively nonexistant among the immature emotional state that gays have, basically imagining that their desire and lust is real love.
When living in an arrested narcissist state, love isnt involved, at least not mature, enduring, forgiving and sacrificing love that's needed for proper child rearing.
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arrested narcissist state yeah.

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