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Message Subject Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?
Poster Handle Nefertiti
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My country has been in the news for wanting to kill homosexuals. The facts are:

1) A single Member of Parliament drafted a Private Member's Bill that called for all manner of things against homosexuals. It isn't a government position.

2) Most Ugandans could care less about this Bill or about who is homosexual since it doesn't affect their daily lives.

3) A certain group of homosexual organizations have taken it upon themselves to "educate" children here about the what, how and why of homosexuality. In response, certain Christian groups and parents have launched a counter campaign.

I'm hetero. I have a couple of homosexual friends. I don't really like to think about what they do and I'm not comfortable with tv series where men kiss men. Being a woman, I'm repelled by the idea that a woman will hit on me. So personally, I wouldn't tell my kids that homosexuality is an option.

Does that mean we should discriminate against them? Should we be bullying them? Are they morally bankrupt compared to heteros? I don't think so. Most rape, pedophelia and deviant non consensual sex is committed by heterosexuals. So if someone is gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean that they are automatically deviant. Judging by some people's hatred, you would think they have never met a gay man or lesbian. If you know any, you'd find that they are human beings like the rest of us. In fact, if you found your son is gay, you'd quickly discover that this is more complicated than simply labeling them deviant.

The only thing that points to homosexuality as being immoral is Religion. But it also states a number of things that are immoral but that we "allow" to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust, envy....you name it. Where do we get off "hating" homosexuals? How do we justify giving this "sin" more weight than the others? If the wages of sin...is death, then we are all doomed, homosexual or not. We are all sinners. How are we different from homosexuals?
 Quoting: Nefertiti


My daughter has several homosexual friends and one day she asked me why I don't like her friends. I asked her if she was willing to spend eternity in Hell for her friends, and if any of her friends were willing to do the same for her. She insisted that she wouldn't go to hell for agreeing with homosexuals.

I reminded her that Jesus said that whatever you hold in your heart, you also hold in your soul. If your soul accepts sin as acceptable, then you accept sin over GOD. I again asked if she was willing to spend eternity in Hell for the sins of her friends, reminding her that just accepting friends is not the sin but accepting their sins as acceptable was. She was less sure as before, but still don't see the connection. I told her that I had several more years on earth to learn from and that she hopefully had even more years, but the length of a life does not determine the chance to prove your soul unless you make that move of your own free will.

The problem is not if a person is a homosexual or not, but rather if they allow that sin to define them upon the presence of GOD. A belief in GOD or not is not necessary to be judged by GOD. Once GOD decries a sin, it is not up to us to call GOD a liar and a bigot for refusing to change GOD's views to suit our own. Refusing GOD because you choose not to accept GOD will not deny you your judgement before GOD.
 Quoting: 071676


Interesting. The question would then be, how do you define yourself? If you define yourself as homosexual, then you're a sinner in the presence of God. If you say you don't believe in God, it will not change the fact that you will face judgement. If you define yourself as a thief, then you're a sinner and so on as above.

So what happens to priests who are homosexual but keep it hidden? They pray and repent daily and they definitely don't define themselves as homosexuals. What happens with homosexuals who are torn up about their orientation? There are probably many who battle with this issue. They fall sometimes but then get up, repent and try to abstain until something happens. What do you mean by "define yourself"?
 
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