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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1601759 Canada 04/30/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Halogens are a class of related elements that include iodine, bromine, fluorine and chlorine. When they are chemically “reduced” they become “halides”: iodide, bromide, fluoride, and chloride. These are the forms we usually encounter in foods, medications and the environment. While iodine and chloride are beneficial in small amounts, the others are toxic. They can bind to iodine receptors, block the action of iodide and thyroid hormones, and cause many severe diseases. Quoting: tandym When your thyroid is low in iodine (its natural 'food') it will absorb the other halides that are readily available instead. Guess what's in our water? Fluorine Chlorine Guess what our table salt is? Sodium CHLORIDE (with a teensy bit of iodine) Guess what's in practically ALL bread (purchased from the store)?? Bromine Its no wonder we have an epidemic of obesity. BINGO. Excellent analysis, simple and straight to the point. . |
ITZCOMING User ID: 12781064 United States 04/30/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a favorite subject of mine... The short story is that about 7 years ago, I discovered that my blood sugar was getting high. The doc told me they would just watch it. Well, it got worse and worse. Finally my oral glucose tolerance test was 199. Over 200 and your officially a diabetic and they put you on meds. My morning fasting blood sugar was running 120-138 Well, that was my wakeup call. I'm an RN, and I KNOW what happens to diabetics. Our practice is full of them. I did not want to go down that road. So, cold turkey, from that day forward, I radically changed my diet. I eliminated: Processed food Bread (all wheat including pasta) potatoes (I eat a few now. Grow them myself) Store bought meat Vegetable oil Margarine Sugar All soft drinks. My diet consists of: Grass fed beef (including liver, heart and tongue) Vegetables of all kinds, many I now grow myself A little fruit Berries (I just stared strawberries in my backyard) Raw goat or cow milk from a local farm. Dry red wine Coffee Real butter from grassfed cows Pastured eggs from a local farm Beef tallow (make that myself from fat I get a grassfed beef butcher) Coconut oil Sweet potatoes. My blood sugar problem resolved in 4 months, as my oral glucose tolerance test dropped from 199 to 95! I'm 6' tall and weighed 185. I had a thick waist. I lost 30 lbs in less than 4 months. I wasn't even trying to lose weight, it just fell off. I have maintained my weight at 158-160 lbs with no effort. I do Crossfit now twice a week for strength, balance and endurance. I love to ride my bike and do 13 to 50 miles rides. I am 53. It is sad though, as I watch my friends deteriorate. One is just a few years older than me and already needs a hip replacement. If you think eating like this is expensive, it is. Here's the deal though: I ran what I spend through an inflation calculator, and I'm spending no more than people did in 1940 after accounting for inflation. It's just that we have gotten used to cheap processed crap food. As an aside, NEVER eat ANYTHING with carrageenan in it. It's often in low fat processed-pretend crap food. Everyone thinks what I do is great. Nobody wants to do it though. Wheat, sugar and processed foods are highly addictive. Sorry this was so long!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38422619 Spain 04/30/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bleached flour is processed with Bromine. Quoting: tandym [link to www.laurapower.com] Halogens are a class of related elements that include iodine, bromine, fluorine and chlorine. When they are chemically “reduced” they become “halides”: iodide, bromide, fluoride, and chloride. These are the forms we usually encounter in foods, medications and the environment. While iodine and chloride are beneficial in small amounts, the others are toxic. They can bind to iodine receptors, block the action of iodide and thyroid hormones, and cause many severe diseases. [link to iodinehealth.wordpress.com] When your thyroid is low in iodine (its natural 'food') it will absorb the other halides that are readily available instead. Guess what's in our water? Fluorine Chlorine Guess what our table salt is? Sodium CHLORIDE (with a teensy bit of iodine) Guess what's in practically ALL bread (purchased from the store)?? Bromine Its no wonder we have an epidemic of obesity. Extremely interesting, thank you. |
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TOTRhombus User ID: 38804434 United States 04/30/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a favorite subject of mine... Quoting: ITZCOMING The short story is that about 7 years ago, I discovered that my blood sugar was getting high. The doc told me they would just watch it. Well, it got worse and worse. Finally my oral glucose tolerance test was 199. Over 200 and your officially a diabetic and they put you on meds. My morning fasting blood sugar was running 120-138 Well, that was my wakeup call. I'm an RN, and I KNOW what happens to diabetics. Our practice is full of them. I did not want to go down that road. So, cold turkey, from that day forward, I radically changed my diet. I eliminated: Processed food Bread (all wheat including pasta) potatoes (I eat a few now. Grow them myself) Store bought meat Vegetable oil Margarine Sugar All soft drinks. My diet consists of: Grass fed beef (including liver, heart and tongue) Vegetables of all kinds, many I now grow myself A little fruit Berries (I just stared strawberries in my backyard) Raw goat or cow milk from a local farm. Dry red wine Coffee Real butter from grassfed cows Pastured eggs from a local farm Beef tallow (make that myself from fat I get a grassfed beef butcher) Coconut oil Sweet potatoes. My blood sugar problem resolved in 4 months, as my oral glucose tolerance test dropped from 199 to 95! I'm 6' tall and weighed 185. I had a thick waist. I lost 30 lbs in less than 4 months. I wasn't even trying to lose weight, it just fell off. I have maintained my weight at 158-160 lbs with no effort. I do Crossfit now twice a week for strength, balance and endurance. I love to ride my bike and do 13 to 50 miles rides. I am 53. It is sad though, as I watch my friends deteriorate. One is just a few years older than me and already needs a hip replacement. If you think eating like this is expensive, it is. Here's the deal though: I ran what I spend through an inflation calculator, and I'm spending no more than people did in 1940 after accounting for inflation. It's just that we have gotten used to cheap processed crap food. As an aside, NEVER eat ANYTHING with carrageenan in it. It's often in low fat processed-pretend crap food. Everyone thinks what I do is great. Nobody wants to do it though. Wheat, sugar and processed foods are highly addictive. Sorry this was so long!! That's fantastic! Good for you. Eating healthy is more expensive, but you save so much in medical bills it actually ends up saving you money. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
ehecatl User ID: 39126810 Mexico 04/30/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And now the bread is killing us. Quoting: The Comedian The more I learn, the less I want to be here... It's all a game my friend. Win or Lose is in your point of view, but we all die, and least in the physical, at some point. In the mean time I honor the spirit. ----------------- I had poor digestion, gas and got sick more often a number of years ago, and then a retired doctor friend told me to eliminate all the wheat flour. I eliminated the gluten and all those problems went away. Once in a while I still buy a pastry from the bakery though. About a month ago I had a pastry and didn't want to eat it but gave it to my chickens. Most of them did not seem too interested but one hen ate most of it. 4 hours later she was in a semi-coma and couldn't move, and the next day she was dead. It does not mean the pastry was downright deadly for a human, but it pushed that hen over the edge. I suspect that the Rockefellers , Rothschilds, etc, don't eat that crap. |
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Fool-Me-Once User ID: 28522476 Canada 04/30/2013 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you can't pick it, grow it, or hunt it... I don't touch it. That's how our ancestors lived and they were fucking jacked. The Paleo Diet is a great read. The average life was not shorter in earlier times for any reason other than accidental death and lack of advanced medical care. We can all live a long, healthy, vibrant life if we stay away from man made ingredients. People spend so much time looking for the solutions to obesity, anxiety, ADD. All of these can be cured through proper diet and I can attest to that from my own experience. :smokin1: |
CrapWhisperer User ID: 4126031 United States 04/30/2013 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you cannot sustain on the 'No White Diet' completely, at least try to avoid Quoting: CrapWhisperer *Sugar *Bread *Rice *Pasta *Potatoes as much as you can You'll lose inches in the first week alone. Veggies, meat, spices, herbs, limited dairy will make you happier and healthier And don't try to dispute this if you have not tried and tested this for your own self on the scale in your bathroom or fitting in to jeans from way back when Hey, there's nothing wrong with potatoes. Do some research. [link to www.besthealthmag.ca] As much as I absolutely love them, eating a baked potato is the nutritional equivalent of eating 3/4 cup of sugar. If you cook a potato the right way, its very very healthy and provides you with much more than a cup of sugar ever could. Potatoes are very nutritious. Even if cooked wrong, still much better than sugar. FYI: [link to nutritiondata.self.com] Sugar: [link to nutritiondata.self.com] Gawd I hope you're right! I love those things! My mom is the pasta princess and dad is the rice regulator but me oh my my heart belongs to hashbrowns -- and stuff like that :p “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” -- Frank Zappa |
CrapWhisperer User ID: 4126031 United States 04/30/2013 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you can't pick it, grow it, or hunt it... I don't touch it. That's how our ancestors lived and they were fucking jacked. The Paleo Diet is a great read. The average life was not shorter in earlier times for any reason other than accidental death and lack of advanced medical care. We can all live a long, healthy, vibrant life if we stay away from man made ingredients. People spend so much time looking for the solutions to obesity, anxiety, ADD. All of these can be cured through proper diet and I can attest to that from my own experience. Quoting: Fool-Me-Once Ya I keep coming across the Paleo Diet, it seems pretty basic and makes a lot of sense “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” -- Frank Zappa |
Fool-Me-Once User ID: 28522476 Canada 04/30/2013 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a favorite subject of mine... Quoting: ITZCOMING The short story is that about 7 years ago, I discovered that my blood sugar was getting high. The doc told me they would just watch it. Well, it got worse and worse. Finally my oral glucose tolerance test was 199. Over 200 and your officially a diabetic and they put you on meds. My morning fasting blood sugar was running 120-138 Well, that was my wakeup call. I'm an RN, and I KNOW what happens to diabetics. Our practice is full of them. I did not want to go down that road. So, cold turkey, from that day forward, I radically changed my diet. I eliminated: Processed food Bread (all wheat including pasta) potatoes (I eat a few now. Grow them myself) Store bought meat Vegetable oil Margarine Sugar All soft drinks. My diet consists of: Grass fed beef (including liver, heart and tongue) Vegetables of all kinds, many I now grow myself A little fruit Berries (I just stared strawberries in my backyard) Raw goat or cow milk from a local farm. Dry red wine Coffee Real butter from grassfed cows Pastured eggs from a local farm Beef tallow (make that myself from fat I get a grassfed beef butcher) Coconut oil Sweet potatoes. My blood sugar problem resolved in 4 months, as my oral glucose tolerance test dropped from 199 to 95! I'm 6' tall and weighed 185. I had a thick waist. I lost 30 lbs in less than 4 months. I wasn't even trying to lose weight, it just fell off. I have maintained my weight at 158-160 lbs with no effort. I do Crossfit now twice a week for strength, balance and endurance. I love to ride my bike and do 13 to 50 miles rides. I am 53. It is sad though, as I watch my friends deteriorate. One is just a few years older than me and already needs a hip replacement. If you think eating like this is expensive, it is. Here's the deal though: I ran what I spend through an inflation calculator, and I'm spending no more than people did in 1940 after accounting for inflation. It's just that we have gotten used to cheap processed crap food. As an aside, NEVER eat ANYTHING with carrageenan in it. It's often in low fat processed-pretend crap food. Everyone thinks what I do is great. Nobody wants to do it though. Wheat, sugar and processed foods are highly addictive. Sorry this was so long!! You have it right. Grass-fed meats are great health wise and morally. (Slaughterhouses are cruel). We need to be eating meat the way it was meant to be eaten, and not altered by man. My diet changes over the last two years are a spitting image of yours. I have also incorporated intermittent fasting but that is more of a preference than a necessity. You should try Bison if you haven't already, that's where the vast majority of my grocery money goes :smokin1: |
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ITZCOMING User ID: 12781064 United States 04/30/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've had bison at a local restaurant that uses grassfed beef, and wild animals. It was pretty darn tasty. Speaking of Bison, I eat pemmican too. Pemmican isn't jerky, it's dried beef that's been ground and mixed with beef tallow. Sometimes dried berries are added, and maybe honey. It's the perfect energy bar. It's an acquired taste. I think you have to be off sugar for a good while before liking it. It's really the perfect survival food. You can literally live on it, and done right it can keep for years. I get it online. They are supposed to be making a kind soon that will keep long term without refrigeration, but they don't have it yet... When we eat to live instead of for what I call "mouthertainment" it's better for us. |
F-BVFA User ID: 22188579 France 04/30/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about organic flour? Not all organic flour is whole flour. Organic pastry flour is white flour. Is that dangerous too? I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
PresidentCamacho User ID: 25454873 United States 04/30/2013 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am going to karma pin this because it is one of my favorite soap box topics. Quoting: tandym I have been using King Arthur flour exclusively for over ten years now -- never switching back -- because of the bleaching & bromating in regular flour. My baked goods are SO MUCH better looking and tasting with the King Arthur flour, there's no reason to go back to cheap flour. Its more expensive, but it more than pays for itself with taste and peace of mind! I use King Arthur too... much better than the others. I also started growing my own wheat in South Florida, if you can believe that. Did a test run over the past winter and it came out excellent. THIS is what I am interested in. was the seed non gmo? Where did you get it? You planted in winter, wonder when I should plant up in n ga? thanks in advance for your help!!!!!! Yes, it's non-gmo and called Wit Wokoring Wheat. It's native to South Africa and grew awesome here in FL. I planted it in the beginning of December, which was when I got the seeds, and it finished about two weeks ago. It needed very little care on my part and now I have my own grain. This year, I'm going to start it earlier to avoid the rains that come in April, which ruined some of it. Google Sustainable Seed Company, but there could be others. I don't like to promote any one company, but they're the only place I've found that has it. Good luck. Last Edited by PresidentCamacho on 04/30/2013 03:20 PM The years passed, mankind became stupider at a frightening rate. Some had high hopes the genetic engineering would correct this trend in evolution, but sadly the greatest minds and resources where focused on conquering hair loss and prolonging erections. ~ Narrator (Idiocracy) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39125178 United States 04/30/2013 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A little historical footnote from my home state showing the disasterious effects a small change in a grain product can cause on the population. Little things do matter very much. [link to www.medscape.com] [link to www.google.com] The first case of pellagra in the United States was reported in 1902.5 Soon pellagra began to occur in epidemic proportions in states south of the Potomac and Ohio rivers.6 The pellagra epidemic lasted for nearly four decades. It was estimated that there were 3 million cases and 100,000 deaths due to pellagra during the epidemic. 4 The exact cause of pellagra was not known. The patients felt ostracized and were shunned. The social stigmatization was similar to that of the present day epidemic of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome.4 Joseph Goldberger of the US Public Health Service solved the secret of the malady of pellagra. Goldberger’s epic work and the social history of the pellagra epidemic in the United States are reviewed. |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 18280111 United States 04/30/2013 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for posting this very important information, OP. I just started finding this stuff out a few weeks ago, after trying to find other ways to help myself regain some health that physicians just can't figure out. I bought a bottle of Lugol's iodine drops and put some on the inside of my arm (an inch wide), and lo and behold, that iodine dissapeared completely in 90 minutes. I will reread the info you provided, very useful indeed. Quoting: Dashadow Lugol's Iodine is the best! I take it daily and provide a drop in my duck's (five of them) water each day as well (I raise free range ducks for their eggs) ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
Dashadow User ID: 19303634 Sweden 04/30/2013 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for posting this very important information, OP. I just started finding this stuff out a few weeks ago, after trying to find other ways to help myself regain some health that physicians just can't figure out. I bought a bottle of Lugol's iodine drops and put some on the inside of my arm (an inch wide), and lo and behold, that iodine dissapeared completely in 90 minutes. I will reread the info you provided, very useful indeed. Quoting: Dashadow Lugol's Iodine is the best! I take it daily and provide a drop in my duck's (five of them) water each day as well (I raise free range ducks for their eggs) |
~Spaze*Man~ User ID: 37306850 United States 04/30/2013 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a favorite subject of mine... Quoting: ITZCOMING The short story is that about 7 years ago, I discovered that my blood sugar was getting high. The doc told me they would just watch it. Well, it got worse and worse. Finally my oral glucose tolerance test was 199. Over 200 and your officially a diabetic and they put you on meds. My morning fasting blood sugar was running 120-138 Well, that was my wakeup call. I'm an RN, and I KNOW what happens to diabetics. Our practice is full of them. I did not want to go down that road. So, cold turkey, from that day forward, I radically changed my diet. I eliminated: Processed food Bread (all wheat including pasta) potatoes (I eat a few now. Grow them myself) Store bought meat Vegetable oil Margarine Sugar All soft drinks. My diet consists of: Grass fed beef (including liver, heart and tongue) Vegetables of all kinds, many I now grow myself A little fruit Berries (I just stared strawberries in my backyard) Raw goat or cow milk from a local farm. Dry red wine Coffee Real butter from grassfed cows Pastured eggs from a local farm Beef tallow (make that myself from fat I get a grassfed beef butcher) Coconut oil Sweet potatoes. My blood sugar problem resolved in 4 months, as my oral glucose tolerance test dropped from 199 to 95! I'm 6' tall and weighed 185. I had a thick waist. I lost 30 lbs in less than 4 months. I wasn't even trying to lose weight, it just fell off. I have maintained my weight at 158-160 lbs with no effort. I do Crossfit now twice a week for strength, balance and endurance. I love to ride my bike and do 13 to 50 miles rides. I am 53. It is sad though, as I watch my friends deteriorate. One is just a few years older than me and already needs a hip replacement. If you think eating like this is expensive, it is. Here's the deal though: I ran what I spend through an inflation calculator, and I'm spending no more than people did in 1940 after accounting for inflation. It's just that we have gotten used to cheap processed crap food. As an aside, NEVER eat ANYTHING with carrageenan in it. It's often in low fat processed-pretend crap food. Everyone thinks what I do is great. Nobody wants to do it though. Wheat, sugar and processed foods are highly addictive. Sorry this was so long!! Exactly the stories I like to read. Thx for sharing and def not long enough :p lol. So, could you please describe what happens to diabetics that you see. I love researching these topics. |
Fool-Me-Once User ID: 28522476 Canada 04/30/2013 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speaking of Bison, I eat pemmican too. Pemmican isn't jerky, it's dried beef that's been ground and mixed with beef tallow. Sometimes dried berries are added, and maybe honey. It's the perfect energy bar. It's an acquired taste. I think you have to be off sugar for a good while before liking it. It's really the perfect survival food. You can literally live on it, and done right it can keep for years. I get it online. They are supposed to be making a kind soon that will keep long term without refrigeration, but they don't have it yet... Quoting: ITZCOMING When we eat to live instead of for what I call "mouthertainment" it's better for us. Never heard of that, but I am always into trying out new stuff! I'm sure it's great with honey, too. :smokin1: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21201441 United States 04/30/2013 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you cannot sustain on the 'No White Diet' completely, at least try to avoid Quoting: CrapWhisperer *Sugar *Bread *Rice *Pasta *Potatoes as much as you can You'll lose inches in the first week alone. Veggies, meat, spices, herbs, limited dairy will make you happier and healthier And don't try to dispute this if you have not tried and tested this for your own self on the scale in your bathroom or fitting in to jeans from way back when I stay at around 125 - and I cannot eat gluten, so that sure helps. I just had lunch - a bit of meat loaf, red mashed potatoes - and a quesadilla I made with two blue corn tortillas, jack cheese, a bit of tomato and green (natural) olives. For dessert I might have a bit of dark chocolate covered almonds later - but just like 2 or 3 is good. I drink water, most always. Sometimes for dinner I might just have some hummus with olive oil and paprika - dipping organic tortilla chips in it - or a Greek salad with oil & vinegar with different veg, topped with pepitas, cranberries, black sesame, sliced almonds. Everyone loves my salads. I also like to eat an egg now and then for protein, stuff like that - simple, low carb, filling, energy food. For breakfast a brown rice protein frozen fruit/berries smoothie with almond butter, flax meal, liquid minerals, etc. I skip meals sometimes when I get too busy, just snack on something healthy or eat like two meals. Love to go to the soup/salad bar, too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4440350 United States 04/30/2013 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you cannot sustain on the 'No White Diet' completely, at least try to avoid Quoting: CrapWhisperer *Sugar *Bread *Rice *Pasta *Potatoes as much as you can You'll lose inches in the first week alone. Veggies, meat, spices, herbs, limited dairy will make you happier and healthier And don't try to dispute this if you have not tried and tested this for your own self on the scale in your bathroom or fitting in to jeans from way back when Hey, there's nothing wrong with potatoes. Do some research. [link to www.besthealthmag.ca] As long as they aren't gmo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2571600 United States 04/30/2013 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the most remarkable developments in the long struggle for wholesome and nutritious bread is reported by Sir Edward Mellanby at page 885 of this issue. In his laboratory dogs given a diet consisting largely of flour Quoting: No Dhimmi which had been bleached by the "agene" process invariably developed hysteria. Control animals fed upon the same diet but with unbleached flour remained free from this syndrome. For about twenty years canine hysteria has presented a problem which is as interesting to the pathologist as it is distressing to the dog-owner. Those familiar with the dog's sidelong glances at some unseen terror, the frightened barking, and the aimless rushing round which precedes exhaustion will appreciate the accuracy of Mellanby's description. Variotus authorities have ascribed this condition to factors as diverse as the after-effects of distemper, worms, ticks, or even a perverted appetite for gravel. For some time, however, enlightened veterinarians have concluded that more often than not hysteria in dogs is nutritional in origin. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Is there a different link for this info; no matter how I try my phone won't open the one you provided Thanks either way |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39125178 United States 04/30/2013 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there a different link for this info; no matter how I try my phone won't open the one you provided Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2571600 Thanks either way [link to www.unboundmedicine.com] |