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Jesus Called Jews "Children of the Devil"

 
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Jesus Called Jews "Children of the Devil"
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In several places John's gospel also associates "the Jews" with darkness and with the devil. In John 8:37-39;[15] 44-47,[16] Jesus says, speaking to a group of Pharisees:

"I know that you are descendants of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father. They answered him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did. ... You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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Only the unbelieving ones.
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Only the unbelieving ones.
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Do jews believe in Jesus?
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Only the unbelieving ones.
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Do jews believe in Jesus?
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Sure, there are the Messianic Jews, many Jews became muslims through the history, e.g.
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He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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Awesome.
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Only the unbelieving ones.
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Do jews believe in Jesus?
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Sure, there are the Messianic Jews, many Jews became muslims through the history, e.g.
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If a Christian converts to Islam, he is still considered a Christian? Stop playing with words.
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Only the unbelieving ones.
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Do jews believe in Jesus?
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Sure, there are the Messianic Jews, many Jews became muslims through the history, e.g.
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If a Christian converts to Islam, he is still considered a Christian? Stop playing with words.
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wtf Muslims do believe in Jesus too.
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He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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Awesome.
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Amen! God is sovereign!

OP, you are correct, God destroyed that religion and burned up their city in 70AD, just like He said He would do. He left that religion desolate, they have no atonement for sin any longer, because they rejected their Messiah. He left them and found a new people that would worship Him in Spirit and in Truth: the Body of Christ, composed of both converted Jews and Gentiles. We make up the TRUE Israel of God....Praise Him!
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'Jesus' is a figment of Constantine's imagination, Yahushua was a Jew, he kept TORAH and he will not recognise those who reject TORAH. see Matt 7v21:

Mat 7:21 NotG3756 every oneG3956 that saithG3004 unto me,G3427 Lord,G2962 Lord,G2962 shall enterG1525 intoG1519 theG3588 kingdomG932 of heaven;G3772 butG235 he that doethG4160 theG3588 willG2307 of myG3450 FatherG3962 whichG3588 is inG1722 heaven.G3772
Mat 7:22 ManyG4183 will sayG2046 to meG3427 inG1722 thatG1565 day,G2250 Lord,G2962 Lord,G2962 have we notG3756 prophesiedG4395 in thyG4674 name?G3686 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 have cast outG1544 devils?G1140 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 doneG4160 manyG4183 wonderful works?G1411
Mat 7:23 AndG2532 thenG5119 will I professG3670 unto them,G846 I neverG3763 knewG1097 you:G5209 departG672 fromG575 me,G1700 ye that workG2038 iniquity.G458


'Inquity' here is Strong's G458 "anomia" and means 'without Law (TORAH)' so those who reject Torah, so Yahushua will reject them.

Unfortunately dear Christian you are a believer in Paul not in Yahushua, Paul does not give eternal life....
Seek FIRST the Kingdom of YHWH and His knowledge of Good and Bad (righteousness) , for He says "My ways are not thy ways"
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'Jesus' is a figment of Constantine's imagination, Yahushua was a Jew, he kept TORAH and he will not recognise those who reject TORAH. see Matt 7v21:

Mat 7:21 NotG3756 every oneG3956 that saithG3004 unto me,G3427 Lord,G2962 Lord,G2962 shall enterG1525 intoG1519 theG3588 kingdomG932 of heaven;G3772 butG235 he that doethG4160 theG3588 willG2307 of myG3450 FatherG3962 whichG3588 is inG1722 heaven.G3772
Mat 7:22 ManyG4183 will sayG2046 to meG3427 inG1722 thatG1565 day,G2250 Lord,G2962 Lord,G2962 have we notG3756 prophesiedG4395 in thyG4674 name?G3686 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 have cast outG1544 devils?G1140 andG2532 in thyG4674 nameG3686 doneG4160 manyG4183 wonderful works?G1411
Mat 7:23 AndG2532 thenG5119 will I professG3670 unto them,G846 I neverG3763 knewG1097 you:G5209 departG672 fromG575 me,G1700 ye that workG2038 iniquity.G458


'Inquity' here is Strong's G458 "anomia" and means 'without Law (TORAH)' so those who reject Torah, so Yahushua will reject them.

Unfortunately dear Christian you are a believer in Paul not in Yahushua, Paul does not give eternal life....
 Quoting: Taruwah

Goofy Thum
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Unfortunately dear Christian you are a believer in Paul not in Yahushua, Paul does not give eternal life....
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We are talking about the Gospel of John here.
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Hi @38537724

I spent last summer in Bratislava - Beautiful City
beautiful country.
Seek FIRST the Kingdom of YHWH and His knowledge of Good and Bad (righteousness) , for He says "My ways are not thy ways"
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sounds like shills and agents too? how do u lie so much and look in the mirror? there has to be some serious issues in their heads and addictions.

alcoholics and pills, and highly sexualized.
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Hi @38537724

I spent last summer in Bratislava - Beautiful City
beautiful country.
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Hi. But I hate it here. Anyways, thanks for nice words. May be I should become a foreigner to find delight in SLovakia again.
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Re: Jesus Called Jews "Children of the Devil"
i think his name is really Christos
[link to gnosis.org]

his ex, or female charge is Sophia, aka Lucifer, or Baphomet.

Lets hear what she says she intends on doing to traitors, like Dante said too.



Saturn, aka demiurge is in on this revolution thing too, cycles grow the system. who is the Wicker Man? agitate, agitate, lie.
scheming
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Unfortunately dear Christian you are a believer in Paul not in Yahushua, Paul does not give eternal life....
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We are talking about the Gospel of John here.
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Then I suggest you get reading:

In the beginning was Torah, and Torah was with Yahovah and Torah was Yahovah, all things were made by it, and without was not anything made which was made....

And Torah was made flesh and dwelt among us

(Gr. logos = Heb. Dabar LXX)
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In several places John's gospel also associates "the Jews" with darkness and with the devil. In John 8:37-39;[15] 44-47,[16] Jesus says, speaking to a group of Pharisees:

"I know that you are descendants of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father. They answered him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did. ... You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39198658


The people against God, are offspring of the devil. I don't specifically see where he states all "Jews" are offspring of the devil.

Jesus was a Jew. He was no hypocrite.
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He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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Awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35965174


Amen! God is sovereign!

OP, you are correct, God destroyed that religion and burned up their city in 70AD, just like He said He would do. He left that religion desolate, they have no atonement for sin any longer, because they rejected their Messiah. He left them and found a new people that would worship Him in Spirit and in Truth: the Body of Christ, composed of both converted Jews and Gentiles. We make up the TRUE Israel of God....Praise Him!
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Here, minute 3:40, you can see who Jesus really was



Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat:
ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,
et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum.

Which translates:

Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind,
I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated,
Christ is your son
who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end.
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He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39198658


Awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35965174


Amen! God is sovereign!

OP, you are correct, God destroyed that religion and burned up their city in 70AD, just like He said He would do. He left that religion desolate, they have no atonement for sin any longer, because they rejected their Messiah. He left them and found a new people that would worship Him in Spirit and in Truth: the Body of Christ, composed of both converted Jews and Gentiles. We make up the TRUE Israel of God....Praise Him!
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Here, minute 3:40, you can see who Jesus really was



Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat:
ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,
et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum.

Which translates:

Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind,
I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated,
Christ is your son
who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end.
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He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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Awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35965174


Amen! God is sovereign!

OP, you are correct, God destroyed that religion and burned up their city in 70AD, just like He said He would do. He left that religion desolate, they have no atonement for sin any longer, because they rejected their Messiah. He left them and found a new people that would worship Him in Spirit and in Truth: the Body of Christ, composed of both converted Jews and Gentiles. We make up the TRUE Israel of God....Praise Him!
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Here, minute 3:40, you can see who Jesus really was



Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat:
ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,
et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum.

Which translates:

Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind,
I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated,
Christ is your son
who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end.
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He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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Awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35965174


Amen! God is sovereign!

OP, you are correct, God destroyed that religion and burned up their city in 70AD, just like He said He would do. He left that religion desolate, they have no atonement for sin any longer, because they rejected their Messiah. He left them and found a new people that would worship Him in Spirit and in Truth: the Body of Christ, composed of both converted Jews and Gentiles. We make up the TRUE Israel of God....Praise Him!
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Here, minute 3:40, you can see who Jesus really was



Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat:
ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,
et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum.

Which translates:

Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind,
I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated,
Christ is your son
who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end.
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.... And he will call you potato chip eating canuck if you don't stop being racist.
1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

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He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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Awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35965174


Amen! God is sovereign!

OP, you are correct, God destroyed that religion and burned up their city in 70AD, just like He said He would do. He left that religion desolate, they have no atonement for sin any longer, because they rejected their Messiah. He left them and found a new people that would worship Him in Spirit and in Truth: the Body of Christ, composed of both converted Jews and Gentiles. We make up the TRUE Israel of God....Praise Him!
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Here, minute 3:40, you can see who Jesus really was



Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat:
ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,
et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum.

Which translates:

Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind,
I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated,
Christ is your son
who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39117463



Isaiah 49:6 It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth.
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Was there actually a Jesus? Or was he a composite?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In several places John's gospel also associates "the Jews" with darkness and with the devil. In John 8:37-39;[15] 44-47,[16] Jesus says, speaking to a group of Pharisees:

"I know that you are descendants of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father. They answered him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did. ... You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In several places John's gospel also associates "the Jews" with darkness and with the devil. In John 8:37-39;[15] 44-47,[16] Jesus says, speaking to a group of Pharisees:

"I know that you are descendants of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father. They answered him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did. ... You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."
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Jesus was a Jew you tard
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i donot know about the others, but in John 8:44, Jesus was speaking to the general masses, not the "Pharisees", as you will see if you continue reading down.

Saying Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees is an old, worn-out trick that doesnot work anymore, because thereare now enough people around that know the truth, and can spot a fork-tongued liar from a mile away.

Truth will set you free, according to Jesus in John 8:32
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"Jesus Called Jews Children of the Devil"


I think what you actually mean is that according to some writings written thousands of years ago, interpreted and edited by countless scores of scribes with their own agendas, and handed down according to their efficacy to support or refute the arguments of those preserving them...


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Was there actually a Jesus? Or was he a composite?


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Jesus is a latin construct, it has no Hebrew root as one might expect. The name does not exist in the oldest Greek fragments as 'placeholders' were used to denote Hebrew words which did not work in the Greek. The early believers both Gentile and Jew were known as 'Followers of the Way' as Paul referred to himself in Acts.

Whilst Christos is indeed anointed, the implication is of being anointed with drugs (and alternaive being to rub gently)

Jesus is a later addition, sounding awfully like Ha Zeus (son of zeus) Constantine was a Mithra worshipper who brought several pagan religions together and called them Roman Christianity, the Pontifex Maximus title passed into this new religion (pontifex maximus = great bridge builder to the gods)

The Tanack (old testament) refers to Messiah as Yahushua (Yahovah is salvation) so calling messiah 'Jesus' is like me calling you Fred when your name is actually Thomas.

And if indeed Jesus is an alias of mithra then it is not very healthy.
Seek FIRST the Kingdom of YHWH and His knowledge of Good and Bad (righteousness) , for He says "My ways are not thy ways"
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Phew, JC would go to prison for it if He said this now, this is not a politically correct view on the hard labouring jewish industry workers, miners, oil platform workers, lol.
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That reminds me. Does Chertoff (trans: of the Devil) have any kids?
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All your religions are crazy!

Rise above religion and find your place in the universe.

If anyone ask you to accept them as YOUR savior, if you accept, that makes you a slave to them.

You were born in sin, yes. But sin is separation from God, otherwise known as the conscious dimension of thought. A field of energy that is home to all lifes minds.

The only way to remove your "sin" is to die. Not yet, not yet, there is time to live today.

So while you are alive....live to love and love to live.

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