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Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.

 
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Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.
Just curious: are the illuminati related to the above? In other words, do members of the illuminati have to join a group (e.g., masons), climb the ranks, then become illuminati if they get high enough? Or are the illuminati entirely separate and no initiation into other group is required?
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Re: Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.
Whatcha wanna know kid?
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Re: Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.
grandpa was a mason, lower degrees and grannie was OES. There is something too the symbolism, even amongst lower level families. They had a dark house full of owl figurines, yin/yang masques and other such paraphernalia

....I was scared of my grandfather's friends...I was very young. On grandma's side we go right back to John Adams...I am like, his 6th (removed) or so great grandson. Family member does genealogy so we know this is true.

The stuff they say about all the presidents being related like 12th cousins is silly, you go back far enough and we're all 12th cousins, related to the merovingian line, etc, etc...I however do feel strange being directly related to one of the founding fathers. As a kid I thought it was no big whoop, but then I discovered the truth about the world and realized the significance of even the lower level secret societies.

You see, the illuminati are not always in what seems like "high places". They are within all echelons of society, not just the current rich elite. In fact, many of the current rich elite are quite oblivious as to what is actually going on.
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Re: Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.
The true ancient Illuminati is an entirely different group not even related to the Elite/Global Bankers/TPTB. When most people talk about the Illuminati they are actually talking about the Elite.
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Re: Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.
grandpa was a mason, lower degrees and grannie was OES. There is something too the symbolism, even amongst lower level families. They had a dark house full of owl figurines, yin/yang masques and other such paraphernalia

....I was scared of my grandfather's friends...I was very young. On grandma's side we go right back to John Adams...I am like, his 6th (removed) or so great grandson. Family member does genealogy so we know this is true.

The stuff they say about all the presidents being related like 12th cousins is silly, you go back far enough and we're all 12th cousins, related to the merovingian line, etc, etc...I however do feel strange being directly related to one of the founding fathers. As a kid I thought it was no big whoop, but then I discovered the truth about the world and realized the significance of even the lower level secret societies.

You see, the illuminati are not always in what seems like "high places". They are within all echelons of society, not just the current rich elite. In fact, many of the current rich elite are quite oblivious as to what is actually going on.
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What is actually going on?
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Re: Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.
grandpa was a mason, lower degrees and grannie was OES. There is something too the symbolism, even amongst lower level families. They had a dark house full of owl figurines, yin/yang masques and other such paraphernalia

....I was scared of my grandfather's friends...I was very young. On grandma's side we go right back to John Adams...I am like, his 6th (removed) or so great grandson. Family member does genealogy so we know this is true.

The stuff they say about all the presidents being related like 12th cousins is silly, you go back far enough and we're all 12th cousins, related to the merovingian line, etc, etc...I however do feel strange being directly related to one of the founding fathers. As a kid I thought it was no big whoop, but then I discovered the truth about the world and realized the significance of even the lower level secret societies.

You see, the illuminati are not always in what seems like "high places". They are within all echelons of society, not just the current rich elite. In fact, many of the current rich elite are quite oblivious as to what is actually going on.
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What is actually going on?
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A myriad of different things. Conspiracies within conspiracies...


Once I started "waking up" in 2001-2003 I wondered how "programmed" I might be, if at all. I still have questions about my early childhood. But that's for another post.

My feeling, overall, is that the true illuminati are mostly out for good, and are somehow using the elite to bring about 1st chaos, in order to evolve humans and society beyond current paradigms. One thing, in my life I know what I am after, and I believe even so called "small people" usher in as much change over generations as the supposed 'elite'...the trouble is, we were all taken over in the early-mid 20th century by nazis. I don't mean that to sound blunt, but it's true...

...I do believe the founding fathers, while in their time were doing what they could to bring about generational change.
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Re: Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.
grandpa was a mason, lower degrees and grannie was OES. There is something too the symbolism, even amongst lower level families. They had a dark house full of owl figurines, yin/yang masques and other such paraphernalia

....I was scared of my grandfather's friends...I was very young. On grandma's side we go right back to John Adams...I am like, his 6th (removed) or so great grandson. Family member does genealogy so we know this is true.

The stuff they say about all the presidents being related like 12th cousins is silly, you go back far enough and we're all 12th cousins, related to the merovingian line, etc, etc...I however do feel strange being directly related to one of the founding fathers. As a kid I thought it was no big whoop, but then I discovered the truth about the world and realized the significance of even the lower level secret societies.

You see, the illuminati are not always in what seems like "high places". They are within all echelons of society, not just the current rich elite. In fact, many of the current rich elite are quite oblivious as to what is actually going on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38579320


What is actually going on?
bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062218



A myriad of different things. Conspiracies within conspiracies...


Once I started "waking up" in 2001-2003 I wondered how "programmed" I might be, if at all. I still have questions about my early childhood. But that's for another post.

My feeling, overall, is that the true illuminati are mostly out for good, and are somehow using the elite to bring about 1st chaos, in order to evolve humans and society beyond current paradigms. One thing, in my life I know what I am after, and I believe even so called "small people" usher in as much change over generations as the supposed 'elite'...the trouble is, we were all taken over in the early-mid 20th century by nazis. I don't mean that to sound blunt, but it's true...

...I do believe the founding fathers, while in their time were doing what they could to bring about generational change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38579320


Sounds like we come from similar backgrounds... I remember enough from my own childhood to believe they know they are up to no good and think they will be protected and rewarded while everyone else suffers and is purged.

I believe ultimately their evil conspiracies will be used for good - in spite of them and their twisted motives.

There is a reason you were creeped out by those people. Always remember that.

damned
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Re: Illuminati: freemasons, kiwanas, lion's club, eastern star, etc.
grandpa was a mason, lower degrees and grannie was OES. There is something too the symbolism, even amongst lower level families. They had a dark house full of owl figurines, yin/yang masques and other such paraphernalia

....I was scared of my grandfather's friends...I was very young. On grandma's side we go right back to John Adams...I am like, his 6th (removed) or so great grandson. Family member does genealogy so we know this is true.

The stuff they say about all the presidents being related like 12th cousins is silly, you go back far enough and we're all 12th cousins, related to the merovingian line, etc, etc...I however do feel strange being directly related to one of the founding fathers. As a kid I thought it was no big whoop, but then I discovered the truth about the world and realized the significance of even the lower level secret societies.

You see, the illuminati are not always in what seems like "high places". They are within all echelons of society, not just the current rich elite. In fact, many of the current rich elite are quite oblivious as to what is actually going on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38579320


What is actually going on?
bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062218



A myriad of different things. Conspiracies within conspiracies...


Once I started "waking up" in 2001-2003 I wondered how "programmed" I might be, if at all. I still have questions about my early childhood. But that's for another post.

My feeling, overall, is that the true illuminati are mostly out for good, and are somehow using the elite to bring about 1st chaos, in order to evolve humans and society beyond current paradigms. One thing, in my life I know what I am after, and I believe even so called "small people" usher in as much change over generations as the supposed 'elite'...the trouble is, we were all taken over in the early-mid 20th century by nazis. I don't mean that to sound blunt, but it's true...

...I do believe the founding fathers, while in their time were doing what they could to bring about generational change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38579320


Sounds like we come from similar backgrounds... I remember enough from my own childhood to believe they know they are up to no good and think they will be protected and rewarded while everyone else suffers and is purged.

I believe ultimately their evil conspiracies will be used for good - in spite of them and their twisted motives.

There is a reason you were creeped out by those people. Always remember that.

damned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062218




Yeah...the messed up thing is being creeped out by blood relatives ;-0


I seriously wonder though, if in a reincarnational sense, a few of us incarnated into masonic / illuminati families in order to take down the hierarchy.

I have so much circumstancial personal evidence it boggles my mind...to much to go into here...

thing is, I don't believe, like I said, that the founding fathers were evil...or at least, I choose not to believe at this time...I do know my own immediate family have been very much "by the book" people and do not believe in any sort of conspiracy by and large (besides the bankers robbing everyone currently, general gov't corruption)...so much so, that it makes me suspect them of knowingly, or even unknowingly (psychically) a being part of it, because of things that have transpired over the years, especially as a young kid. My grandma's (OES) father was a Shriner with photographic memory. Worked in philanthropy...I was always asked as a kid, if I "had photographic memory" "like great-grandpa". I was a sort of project to him...and it could be in a totally-light hearted sense...but I always felt there was more too it. I was targeted "gifted" and mom tried to get me into TAG. She also denied this recently when I asked her...saying, "no, it was your father who was "TAG"...I don't think they had TAG programs in the 50s, but I could be wrong...anyhow...

On my Dad's side his dad was a Naval researcher...this side doesn't have so much the masonic connection (on the surface), and there is generally a "lighter" side to that side of the family...but at the same time...I am always curious...but I cannot ask family members too much, otherwise they suspect me...

I have tried contacting those in the conspiracy research world, some local to me to see if I can undergo some sort of hypnosis or therapy (none were forthcoming unfortunately)...just to see if I can pull anything out of my usually sharp memory from childhood...things that I don't already know...things that would go beyond being locked in a room for punishment and beat with a wooden spoon;-)...back then it was "normal" to beat your kids apparently (late 70s, early 80's), but I wonder if I have some more answers I could find. If anything, to rule out true "monarch" or mk-ultra-type programming would be a relief for me...

What is your story? If your able to divulge... hf

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