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"...The source keeps claiming confusion, but I don’t think the issue was confusion. Benghazi didn’t lack protection because of money. As has been shown repeatedly, State was swimming in money that it was wasting on ridiculous projects, including art galleries, mosque renovations and green energy.

Instead Clinton decided to outsource protection to the local Muslim Brotherhood militias and keep American security forces to a minimum to avoid offending the locals. Military force was held up for the same reason. It’s the same reason that our national security is shot.

Not offending Muslims is the closest thing to a coherent theme that Obama’s foreign policy has. That was the theme that got Americans killed in Benghazi."

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This still does not answer the question: Where was Obama during those hours?

How could the C of C not take charge of the situation and give the command to save those men?

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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!

I also suspect Obama told them not to bother him no matter what happened because he needed his sleep for campaign the next day and went to bed.

But outsourcing security to the ones from whom it is needed is just insanity.

I hope this will not be allowed to be pushed back out of the headlines until we have answers.
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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!

I also suspect Obama told them not to bother him no matter what happened because he needed his sleep for campaign the next day and went to bed.

But outsourcing security to the ones from whom it is needed is just insanity.

I hope this will not be allowed to be pushed back out of the headlines until we have answers.
 Quoting: Bluebird


^^ This ^^^ yes NASA is now muslim "out-reach" whatever the hell that is. Aren't we proud that now when we go into space we have to hitch a ride with the Russians?

Hillary Clinton claims that Chris Stevens was her "friend" of many years? Her friend? How does one sit and watch your "friend" murdered and his body abused when you know that help is near?

Hillary Clinton and I have very definitions of the word "friend." I would say most normal people differ with her. She is the most hideous thing that was ever spawned by a man and a woman.
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Why are you working so hard to make us care that some spooks got evaporated?

America let Obama have NDAA authority an NOW you whine?
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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!

I also suspect Obama told them not to bother him no matter what happened because he needed his sleep for campaign the next day and went to bed.

But outsourcing security to the ones from whom it is needed is just insanity.

I hope this will not be allowed to be pushed back out of the headlines until we have answers.
 Quoting: Bluebird


^^ This ^^^ yes NASA is now muslim "out-reach" whatever the hell that is. Aren't we proud that now when we go into space we have to hitch a ride with the Russians?

Hillary Clinton claims that Chris Stevens was her "friend" of many years? Her friend? How does one sit and watch your "friend" murdered and his body abused when you know that help is near?

Hillary Clinton and I have very definitions of the word "friend." I would say most normal people differ with her. She is the most hideous thing that was ever spawned by a man and a woman.
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Hillary has no friends.

She has co-conspirators and victims.

And eventually, she always turns her co-spirators into victims. This is probably the case with Stevens.
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I don't think that Buddy even liked her that's why he had to go play in traffic, poor creature. No one is immune from the wrath of that b*tch.

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All I keep hearing in my head is "What does it matter now!"

They're all just pure evil.
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All I keep hearing in my head is "What does it matter now!"

They're all just pure evil.
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Was that the most despicable statement ever? She should never even consider running for office after something like that?

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All I keep hearing in my head is "What does it matter now!"

They're all just pure evil.
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This^^^ That statement haunts me and give very good insight to TRUE character.
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All I keep hearing in my head is "What does it matter now!"

They're all just pure evil.
 Quoting: HarleyQuinn


This^^^ That statement haunts me and give very good insight to TRUE character.
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Did anybody else think that her ridiculous outburst was so phony and staged? She seemed to be going along quite reasonably giving non-answer answers like most politicians do, and then suddenly she erupted and became so animated.

My first thought was she is just a touch insane... and I still can not understand what happened to lead up to her asinine outburst. Was trying to look like a human being with emotions?

Major fail if that is the case...:hillfangstoo:
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All I keep hearing in my head is "What does it matter now!"

They're all just pure evil.
 Quoting: HarleyQuinn


This^^^ That statement haunts me and give very good insight to TRUE character.
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Did anybody else think that her ridiculous outburst was so phony and staged? She seemed to be going along quite reasonably giving non-answer answers like most politicians do, and then suddenly she erupted and became so animated.

My first thought was she is just a touch insane... and I still can not understand what happened to lead up to her asinine outburst. Was trying to look like a human being with emotions?

Major fail if that is the case...:hillfangstoo:
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I tend to think insane also but I really think their is more to it then that and that's just the reasoning my mind can settle on. She is if nothing else a sociopath and a pathalogical liver the whole statement is a contradiction in terms. Her words echo and haunt my mind and to be honest the first time I heard it I was shocked for a moment, speechless, because to me it makes ALL the difference in the world.
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All I keep hearing in my head is "What does it matter now!"

They're all just pure evil.
 Quoting: HarleyQuinn


This^^^ That statement haunts me and give very good insight to TRUE character.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39202037


Did anybody else think that her ridiculous outburst was so phony and staged? She seemed to be going along quite reasonably giving non-answer answers like most politicians do, and then suddenly she erupted and became so animated.

My first thought was she is just a touch insane... and I still can not understand what happened to lead up to her asinine outburst. Was trying to look like a human being with emotions?

Major fail if that is the case...:hillfangstoo:
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I tend to think insane also but I really think their is more to it then that and that's just the reasoning my mind can settle on. She is if nothing else a sociopath and a pathalogical liver the whole statement is a contradiction in terms. Her words echo and haunt my mind and to be honest the first time I heard it I was shocked for a moment, speechless, because to me it makes ALL the difference in the world.
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I found the outburst itself misplaced. It was like someone was speaking in her ear and advised her to display some kind of "emotion." Being what she is she got angry and defensive. Whatever was her problem that day she did herself no favors.

I went looking for articles to know more about her before she was first lady. She is a despicable character and once you wade through the adoring press, those who know her best hate her most.

I found myself having pity for BJ.
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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!


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Yes, their only "contribution" to Space exploration was the invention of algebra, a class subject which still figures prominiently in my nightmares some 50 years later!!!
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Americans murdered by weapons given to Al Qaeda by our Kenyan Communist in Operation Fast and Felafel.

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And now it sounds like he wants to do the same type of thing in Syria. Give weapons to the same group of people that we'd be fighting in a different geographic location. It doesn't make any sense.

Of course, that pretty much describes everything else this guy does, too! bump
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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!


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Yes, their only "contribution" to Space exploration was the invention of algebra, a class subject which still figures prominiently in my nightmares some 50 years later!!!
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All I keep hearing in my head is "What does it matter now!"

They're all just pure evil.
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Or that little weaselzipper Jay Carney saying "That was a LO-O-O-NG time ago". Hey, it hasn't even been quite 8 months yet, brainiac!!
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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!


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Yes, their only "contribution" to Space exploration was the invention of algebra, a class subject which still figures prominiently in my nightmares some 50 years later!!!
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I am pretty sure that muslims did not invent algebra and it was in use long before islam...
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"...The source keeps claiming confusion, but I don’t think the issue was confusion. Benghazi didn’t lack protection because of money. As has been shown repeatedly, State was swimming in money that it was wasting on ridiculous projects, including art galleries, mosque renovations and green energy.

Instead Clinton decided to outsource protection to the local Muslim Brotherhood militias and keep American security forces to a minimum to avoid offending the locals. Military force was held up for the same reason. It’s the same reason that our national security is shot.

Not offending Muslims is the closest thing to a coherent theme that Obama’s foreign policy has. That was the theme that got Americans killed in Benghazi."

[link to frontpagemag.com]
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Keep in mind Mrs Wiener a close friend/bodyguard or some say very close girlfriend has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
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OMG, I didn't notice that the thread was pinned. hf Thank you....
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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!

I also suspect Obama told them not to bother him no matter what happened because he needed his sleep for campaign the next day and went to bed.

But outsourcing security to the ones from whom it is needed is just insanity.

I hope this will not be allowed to be pushed back out of the headlines until we have answers.
 Quoting: Bluebird


^^ This ^^^ yes NASA is now muslim "out-reach" whatever the hell that is. Aren't we proud that now when we go into space we have to hitch a ride with the Russians?
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"Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering.""
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Ah yes, straight from Al Jazeera, Clinton's "real news" station. Well, I have to admit, NASA turning into a Muslim outreach organization was "news" to me. I also LOVE Griffin's response (former NASA director) to that.

"He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said."

Ouch! Burned by a Bush appointee. That's got to sting.
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"...The source keeps claiming confusion, but I don’t think the issue was confusion. Benghazi didn’t lack protection because of money. As has been shown repeatedly, State was swimming in money that it was wasting on ridiculous projects, including art galleries, mosque renovations and green energy.

Instead Clinton decided to outsource protection to the local Muslim Brotherhood militias and keep American security forces to a minimum to avoid offending the locals. Military force was held up for the same reason. It’s the same reason that our national security is shot.

Not offending Muslims is the closest thing to a coherent theme that Obama’s foreign policy has. That was the theme that got Americans killed in Benghazi."

[link to frontpagemag.com]
 Quoting: davvi


Keep in mind Mrs Wiener a close friend/bodyguard or some say very close girlfriend has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
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and recently Hillary said that the beauty of islam was explained to her by Chelsea?

What the hell? Look at the "new" cabinet choices. John Kerry's daughter is married to a prominent Iranian family. John Brennan, muslim, Chuck Hagel ties to Saudi Arabia and anti-Israel.

Valerie Jarrett the biggest b*tch of all...Iranian.

:beautiful islam :

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"Follow the money" works in most cases, but with the Clintons and Obama "Follow the bodies" is, sadly, the path to track to reach a clearing containing truth.
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Americans murdered by weapons given to Al Qaeda by our Kenyan Communist in Operation Fast and Felafel.

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^this^
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Americans murdered by weapons given to Al Qaeda by our Kenyan Communist in Operation Fast and Felafel.

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Gotta love how this bunch was outfitted, too. Why isn't a full blown investigation done to show where these US military weapons came from? Some in this country need to do some hard federal time for this.
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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!

I also suspect Obama told them not to bother him no matter what happened because he needed his sleep for campaign the next day and went to bed.

But outsourcing security to the ones from whom it is needed is just insanity.

I hope this will not be allowed to be pushed back out of the headlines until we have answers.
 Quoting: Bluebird


^^ This ^^^ yes NASA is now muslim "out-reach" whatever the hell that is. Aren't we proud that now when we go into space we have to hitch a ride with the Russians?
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"Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering.""
[link to www.foxnews.com]

Ah yes, straight from Al Jazeera, Clinton's "real news" station. Well, I have to admit, NASA turning into a Muslim outreach organization was "news" to me. I also LOVE Griffin's response (former NASA director) to that.

"He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said."

Ouch! Burned by a Bush appointee. That's got to sting.
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Could someone please tell me why this is priority for our space program?

I have read that the "space Coast" of Florida has been hit very hard with lay-offs in the space industry and have also read that Americans are being replaced by muslims, not necessarily americans, what the hell?
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"Follow the money" works in most cases, but with the Clintons and Obama "Follow the bodies" is, sadly, the path to track to reach a clearing containing truth.
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Follow the "bodies" is quite right.

Americans murdered by weapons given to Al Qaeda by our Kenyan Communist in Operation Fast and Felafel.

5stars
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[link to vkb.isvg.org]

Gotta love how this bunch was outfitted, too. Why isn't a full blown investigation done to show where these US military weapons came from? Some in this country need to do some hard federal time for this.
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I still blame the media for giving up their primary function to keep our politicians "honest." How can you hold someone's feet to the fire when you go to bed with those pols every night?

The media are paid wh*res who come extremely cheap.
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Yes, Obama tried to make NASA's main mission to make muslims feel as though their contributions (whatever that might be since they are anti-technology) to space exploration were just great!

Must not offend his muslim brothers no matter what!

I also suspect Obama told them not to bother him no matter what happened because he needed his sleep for campaign the next day and went to bed.

But outsourcing security to the ones from whom it is needed is just insanity.

I hope this will not be allowed to be pushed back out of the headlines until we have answers.
 Quoting: Bluebird


^^ This ^^^ yes NASA is now muslim "out-reach" whatever the hell that is. Aren't we proud that now when we go into space we have to hitch a ride with the Russians?
 Quoting: davvi


"Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering.""
[link to www.foxnews.com]

Ah yes, straight from Al Jazeera, Clinton's "real news" station. Well, I have to admit, NASA turning into a Muslim outreach organization was "news" to me. I also LOVE Griffin's response (former NASA director) to that.

"He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said."

Ouch! Burned by a Bush appointee. That's got to sting.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Could someone please tell me why this is priority for our space program?

I have read that the "space Coast" of Florida has been hit very hard with lay-offs in the space industry and have also read that Americans are being replaced by muslims, not necessarily americans, what the hell?
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I have friends who work out there. Those who are lucky enough to still have jobs jokingly refer to the Kennedy Space Center as the "Kennedy Space Museum." It's very true. Formerly active facilities like the VAB and LCC are now tourist stops.

They're working towards a new rocket, basically a redesign of ARES-V as the DIRECT option, but as currently planned they'll only be doing one manned launch every other year (with cargo launches in the intervening years) once fully operational... in about a decade.

In the meantime, the space coast is dying. I've gone to some of the unmanned launches and photographed them from across the Indian river. It used to be during shuttle launches that you'd show up the day before and pick out your spot if you wanted to beat everyone else and have the best spot. You'd see maybe one homeless guy laying around the park somewhere, but that was it. Now you go there the day of the launch and the only competition you have for seating is the homeless population. They're there in groups now, but they couldn't care less about the launch. If you ask them which pad is which they can often tell you though; many of them used to work out there as support personnel.

What I want to know is why, even within just the realm of public outreach, "outreach to Muslim countries" was given priority over educating our own kids. Why is NASA partnering with "Angry Birds?" I guess that's NASA idea of "outreach" to our own people these days. If they wanted to partner with a game that's at least somewhat educational about spaceflight, why not do it with Kerbal Space Program? Kids would have loved it at least as much as Angry Birds and they might have actually learned something about orbital dynamics and spaceflight in the process! I swear, it's the intentional dumbing down of America.

/rant

Not really surprising to me that they intentionally let Americans die to avoid offending Muslims as well. I think it goes even deeper than that though.

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^^ This ^^^ yes NASA is now muslim "out-reach" whatever the hell that is. Aren't we proud that now when we go into space we have to hitch a ride with the Russians?
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"Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering.""
[link to www.foxnews.com]

Ah yes, straight from Al Jazeera, Clinton's "real news" station. Well, I have to admit, NASA turning into a Muslim outreach organization was "news" to me. I also LOVE Griffin's response (former NASA director) to that.

"He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said."

Ouch! Burned by a Bush appointee. That's got to sting.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Could someone please tell me why this is priority for our space program?

I have read that the "space Coast" of Florida has been hit very hard with lay-offs in the space industry and have also read that Americans are being replaced by muslims, not necessarily americans, what the hell?
 Quoting: davvi


I have friends who work out there. Those who are lucky enough to still have jobs jokingly refer to the Kennedy Space Center as the "Kennedy Space Museum." It's very true. Formerly active facilities like the VAB and LCC are now tourist stops.

They're working towards a new rocket, basically a redesign of ARES-V as the DIRECT option, but as currently planned they'll only be doing one manned launch every other year (with cargo launches in the intervening years) once fully operational... in about a decade.

In the meantime, the space coast is dying. I've gone to some of the unmanned launches and photographed them from across the Indian river. It used to be during shuttle launches that you'd show up the day before and pick out your spot if you wanted to beat everyone else and have the best spot. You'd see maybe one homeless guy laying around the park somewhere, but that was it. Now you go there the day of the launch and the only competition you have for seating is the homeless population. They're there in groups now, but they couldn't care less about the launch. If you ask them which pad is which they can often tell you though; many of them used to work out there as support personnel.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This makes me sick. Now I am hearing that all new hires are muslim? I don't know whther to believe it or not because if the industry is "dying" how do they justify "new hires?" I find this whole episode very sad. Our space industry ws a step towards the future for all of us and we are handing it over to the most backwards among us to make them "feel good?" Sickening...





GLP