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Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required.

 
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It is a very long way between a subcommittee ordered study and actual implementation.
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You think coins are not cash?
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They don't have serial numbers so identifying them reliably would not be possible.
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Paper notes could pass privately before arriving in your wallet - how are they going to deal with the "garage sale" cash transfers?

Only if they go to a cashless system, similiar to what South Africa tried a few decades ago.
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They are going to scan for your real id...they are tracking YOU!
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Good catch. As i mentioned, the real id can be jiggered in an afternoon with a cheap printer. The code is in the clear - not encrypted. Therefore it can be spoofed.
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I'm glad I pay with coins for everything!!! HAHAHAHHAHHhhahahahhaahahh Mofos :)
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You think coins are not cash?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39282952


hard to counterfeit coins - you have to do a whole huge run for very little return - not economical

where as many business' will not accept coins in mass

which means you buy very little

hopefully the whole system will collapse before this happens although, I think that is their aim - and then replace everything with the Real ID card so that you cannot buy and sell without it ...

however, from the dawn of time, one man has made and another man has gone around ...
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How will you tip the strippers?
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Bring barter items like shampoo and cigarettes. Act like you are in a cheap show south of the border.
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How will you tip the strippers?
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Bring barter items like shampoo and cigarettes. Act like you are in a cheap show south of the border.
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One club up North sells you ribbons.
Red = $5.00
Blue = $2.00
Yellow = $1.00

You can even buy them (the ribbons) with a credit card.
Not that I have ever been there.
I just heard about it. ;-`)
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When it was suggested that people should show photo ID in order to vote the libs cried racism because poor people can't afford to get ID's. Maybe foodstamp cards will be exempt from this.
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When it was suggested that people should show photo ID in order to vote the libs cried racism because poor people can't afford to get ID's. Maybe foodstamp cards will be exempt from this.
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In Wisconsin, they made State-issued ID's free if the person claimed they only needed it to vote.
I imagine they would do the same thing here.
I really don't know.
I don't want to play the Devil's advocate
and perhaps give them ideas on how to implement it.
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So next they will want to outlaw barter!
Something is better than nothing, pay attention, it's still free. Lead by example.
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A story like this is so impossible to believe that it must be true...

...the current state of the world is so backwards that a law like this seems perfectly doable.

:pin: for the insanity.
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^^^^^^
THIS
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I've been getting suspicious since the self-checkout machines have become more widespread.

When I was a kid, I remember only one store had the change counters. Now it seems all of them do. Using a credit card was kind of a hassle.

Some stores have started using PayPal Here, which just creeps the fuck out of me. I'm anticipating that soon you'll be able to link your checking account to checkout with just your phone number and pin.

And by pin I mean driver's license.
And by driver's license I mean fingerprint.
And by fingerprint I mean your RFID chip.
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This is where it gets interesting. The government wants to eliminate the use of cash since they cannot currently track cash. By pushing everyone into using electronic money (ATM cards) they can track all purchases especially for tax purposes.

There are discussions in financial circles about banks using negative interest rates. This way if you turnin $100 to your account, $2 is taken by the bank to support their operations. Therefore, you only have $98 to spend. The only way around this electronic theft is to use cash. However, the government wants to ban cash to force people to place their money in banks.

Once again government is use the threat of safety and security to pass laws that restrict our freedoms, steal our money and force use to pay the bankers.
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Mark of the beast!!!!!

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So basically this will require the RFID chip on all I.D.s and everything paid for with cash will be linked to us. Look out if you're on welfare and claimimg you're broke! Each one of us will have a nice lil spending portfolio attached to enable cross-checking to health insurance too! Sorry smokers!
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It does not surprise me.

Louisiana Bans Using Cash for Sales of Second Hand Goods:


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Mark of the beast!!!!!

Will you take the mark?
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Not with Jesus as my savior!
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A former student of mine works for one of our US Senators.

This person informed me today that a certain sub-committee on competitiveness
has commissioned a study on the feasibility of scanning cash every time it is exchanged.

A scan of your real ID will be required to lawfully purchase with cash.

The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding,
counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking.


One suggestion tossed about in committee would 'tag' certain bills as known drug money
and they would be rejected at the point of purchase.

Either way, everything purchased with a particular bill will be cataloged if this legislation makes it to law.
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"Stated" --> Exactly! The real goal is to CONTROL your actions and force digital currency.
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Maybe exactly this will bring Bcoin back in the game.
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maybe,that was my guess also.
i keep seeing and hearing about "Bcoin", wondering if it was just a another test.
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How will you tip the strippers?
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Bring barter items like shampoo and cigarettes. Act like you are in a cheap show south of the border.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1668632


One club up North sells you ribbons.
Red = $5.00
Blue = $2.00
Yellow = $1.00

You can even buy them (the ribbons) with a credit card.
Not that I have ever been there.
I just heard about it. ;-`)
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


rofl Trust Natureboy to have the DL on the strippers!
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Ban scanners
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Well, we all knew it was coming eventually. Guess I'm gonna have to start paying for my weed in silver.

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silver dime bag
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Man, you are just getting it.

All the smart people did their preps and got stuff with cash at gunshows years ago!

Sorry you tyrants in the Senate - too late!!!

BTW, ATF: there's 300 million guns in the US - how many accurate gun registrations do you have on file?

NOT 300,000,000 OR EVEN CLOSE YOU THUGS!!!

The American people are on to you and lots of guns have been purchased private sale. With Cash. Too late, F Troop.

Oh, yeah, that bar code on the back of your Gold Star driver's licence? Easy to print another and paste over it.

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A former student of mine works for one of our US Senators.

This person informed me today that a certain sub-committee on competitiveness
has commissioned a study on the feasibility of scanning cash every time it is exchanged.

A scan of your real ID will be required to lawfully purchase with cash.

The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding,
counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking.

One suggestion tossed about in committee would 'tag' certain bills as known drug money
and they would be rejected at the point of purchase.

Either way, everything purchased with a particular bill will be cataloged if this legislation makes it to law.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy




Wow a new take on the old GLP uncle theme...."A former student"...how long did it take you to come up with that
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So fucking what! There will always be a black market even if pushed out of cash, you can always buy legitimate goods with real ID and trade the goods for black market goods, trade and barter as the black market should be. Nice to see we are going back to the old ways.
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They aren't trying to band aid anything. There is a greater purpose than dealing with terrorism and illegal drug money.

The elite profit from illegal drug money. They are also the cause of easily 75% of terrorism. Therefore, this feasibility study has a broader purpose that isn't being mentioned.
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This shouldn't worry anyone. The feds cant do anything right. This will be as insufficient as any other government program. Why do liberals keep thinking the government is the solver of lifes problems when they only make the problems worse?

When stores begin rejecting your money just use it on the black market. Problem solved. If they don't want my money I will find someone who does.
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This is the end of liberty.

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A former student of mine works for one of our US Senators.

This person informed me today that a certain sub-committee on competitiveness
has commissioned a study on the feasibility of scanning cash every time it is exchanged.

A scan of your real ID will be required to lawfully purchase with cash.

The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding,
counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking.

One suggestion tossed about in committee would 'tag' certain bills as known drug money
and they would be rejected at the point of purchase.

Either way, everything purchased with a particular bill will be cataloged if this legislation makes it to law.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


All this will do is create a new black market for trade in alternative currencies. The powers that be are getting DESPERATE.

Liberty is lost.

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I can't believe this is getting all this traction with NO proof, not one name or link...so we are just believing conjecture and hearsay now?
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The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding,
counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking.


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If this is true then they should go after all the big banks that launder drug money. Always trying to put band aids on things instead of going to the root of the problem. This means to me they really have an alterior motive.
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Perhaps, I stated all I was told in my OP.
Anything else would be speculation.
But yeah, I speculate an ulterior motive too.
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WOW, "terrorism", just the excuse they need to try something...just wow.
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Arron talked about this!

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It is a very long way between a subcommittee ordered study and actual implementation.
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Yes, but if it involves additional money and/or power for THEM, it gets hustled to the front of the line.
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