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Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1668632  United States05/03/2013 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. They don't have serial numbers so identifying them reliably would not be possible. Paper notes could pass privately before arriving in your wallet - how are they going to deal with the "garage sale" cash transfers? Only if they go to a cashless system, similiar to what South Africa tried a few decades ago. They are going to scan for your real id...they are tracking YOU! Good catch. As i mentioned, the real id can be jiggered in an afternoon with a cheap printer. The code is in the clear - not encrypted. Therefore it can be spoofed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28689320 United States05/03/2013 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. I'm glad I pay with coins for everything!!! HAHAHAHHAHHhhahahahhaahahh Mofos :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8194720 You think coins are not cash? hard to counterfeit coins - you have to do a whole huge run for very little return - not economical where as many business' will not accept coins in mass which means you buy very little hopefully the whole system will collapse before this happens although, I think that is their aim - and then replace everything with the Real ID card so that you cannot buy and sell without it ... however, from the dawn of time, one man has made and another man has gone around ... |
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wisc_natureboy (OP) User ID: 38787568 United States05/03/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. Bring barter items like shampoo and cigarettes. Act like you are in a cheap show south of the border. One club up North sells you ribbons. Red = $5.00 Blue = $2.00 Yellow = $1.00 You can even buy them (the ribbons) with a credit card. Not that I have ever been there. I just heard about it. ;-`) We all breathe the same air. .-.. --- ...- . / .- .-.. .-.. |
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| wisc_natureboy (OP) User ID: 38787568 United States05/03/2013 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. When it was suggested that people should show photo ID in order to vote the libs cried racism because poor people can't afford to get ID's. Maybe foodstamp cards will be exempt from this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37092233 In Wisconsin, they made State-issued ID's free if the person claimed they only needed it to vote. I imagine they would do the same thing here. I really don't know. I don't want to play the Devil's advocate and perhaps give them ideas on how to implement it. We all breathe the same air. .-.. --- ...- . / .- .-.. .-.. |
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| ssle User ID: 31896854 United States05/03/2013 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. I've been getting suspicious since the self-checkout machines have become more widespread. When I was a kid, I remember only one store had the change counters. Now it seems all of them do. Using a credit card was kind of a hassle. Some stores have started using PayPal Here, which just creeps the fuck out of me. I'm anticipating that soon you'll be able to link your checking account to checkout with just your phone number and pin. And by pin I mean driver's license. And by driver's license I mean fingerprint. And by fingerprint I mean your RFID chip. Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning. You're never too good. You're never not good enough. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12352415 United States05/03/2013 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. This is where it gets interesting. The government wants to eliminate the use of cash since they cannot currently track cash. By pushing everyone into using electronic money (ATM cards) they can track all purchases especially for tax purposes. There are discussions in financial circles about banks using negative interest rates. This way if you turnin $100 to your account, $2 is taken by the bank to support their operations. Therefore, you only have $98 to spend. The only way around this electronic theft is to use cash. However, the government wants to ban cash to force people to place their money in banks. Once again government is use the threat of safety and security to pass laws that restrict our freedoms, steal our money and force use to pay the bankers. |
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| Doomalicious User ID: 1376927 United States05/03/2013 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. So basically this will require the RFID chip on all I.D.s and everything paid for with cash will be linked to us. Look out if you're on welfare and claimimg you're broke! Each one of us will have a nice lil spending portfolio attached to enable cross-checking to health insurance too! Sorry smokers! SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are! "Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman "The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto “Money, without brains, always is dangerous. Properly used, it is the most important essential of civilization.” - Napoleon Hill “Failures see the hole in the donut, but do not see the donut around the hole.” - Napoleon Hill “One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman Every man has a right to utter what he thinks is truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it. - Samuel Johnson |
| TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States05/03/2013 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. It does not surprise me. Louisiana Bans Using Cash for Sales of Second Hand Goods: [link to www.naturalnews.com] |
| whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States05/03/2013 07:47 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. Not with Jesus as my savior! Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25852762 United States05/03/2013 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. A former student of mine works for one of our US Senators. Quoting: wisc_natureboy This person informed me today that a certain sub-committee on competitiveness has commissioned a study on the feasibility of scanning cash every time it is exchanged. A scan of your real ID will be required to lawfully purchase with cash. The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding, counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking. One suggestion tossed about in committee would 'tag' certain bills as known drug money and they would be rejected at the point of purchase. Either way, everything purchased with a particular bill will be cataloged if this legislation makes it to law. "Stated" --> Exactly! The real goal is to CONTROL your actions and force digital currency. Maybe exactly this will bring Bcoin back in the game. maybe,that was my guess also. i keep seeing and hearing about "Bcoin", wondering if it was just a another test. |
| STARLING User ID: 37105077 United States05/03/2013 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| PresidentCamacho User ID: 25454873 United States05/03/2013 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. Well, we all knew it was coming eventually. Guess I'm gonna have to start paying for my weed in silver. Quoting: ReVbo™  silver dime bag Man, you are just getting it. All the smart people did their preps and got stuff with cash at gunshows years ago! Sorry you tyrants in the Senate - too late!!! BTW, ATF: there's 300 million guns in the US - how many accurate gun registrations do you have on file? NOT 300,000,000 OR EVEN CLOSE YOU THUGS!!! The American people are on to you and lots of guns have been purchased private sale. With Cash. Too late, F Troop. Oh, yeah, that bar code on the back of your Gold Star driver's licence? Easy to print another and paste over it. Patriots: 1 Control Freaks: 0!!!!   The years passed, mankind became stupider at a frightening rate. Some had high hopes the genetic engineering would correct this trend in evolution, but sadly the greatest minds and resources where focused on conquering hair loss and prolonging erections. ~ Narrator (Idiocracy) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 39077601 United States05/03/2013 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. A former student of mine works for one of our US Senators. Quoting: wisc_natureboy This person informed me today that a certain sub-committee on competitiveness has commissioned a study on the feasibility of scanning cash every time it is exchanged. A scan of your real ID will be required to lawfully purchase with cash. The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding, counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking. One suggestion tossed about in committee would 'tag' certain bills as known drug money and they would be rejected at the point of purchase. Either way, everything purchased with a particular bill will be cataloged if this legislation makes it to law. Wow a new take on the old GLP uncle theme...."A former student"...how long did it take you to come up with that |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16845055  Canada05/03/2013 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. So fucking what! There will always be a black market even if pushed out of cash, you can always buy legitimate goods with real ID and trade the goods for black market goods, trade and barter as the black market should be. Nice to see we are going back to the old ways. |
| PoAMutant User ID: 22921770 United States05/03/2013 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. They aren't trying to band aid anything. There is a greater purpose than dealing with terrorism and illegal drug money. The elite profit from illegal drug money. They are also the cause of easily 75% of terrorism. Therefore, this feasibility study has a broader purpose that isn't being mentioned. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3694399 United States05/03/2013 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. This shouldn't worry anyone. The feds cant do anything right. This will be as insufficient as any other government program. Why do liberals keep thinking the government is the solver of lifes problems when they only make the problems worse? When stores begin rejecting your money just use it on the black market. Problem solved. If they don't want my money I will find someone who does. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27040722 United States05/03/2013 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. A former student of mine works for one of our US Senators. Quoting: wisc_natureboy This person informed me today that a certain sub-committee on competitiveness has commissioned a study on the feasibility of scanning cash every time it is exchanged. A scan of your real ID will be required to lawfully purchase with cash. The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding, counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking. One suggestion tossed about in committee would 'tag' certain bills as known drug money and they would be rejected at the point of purchase. Either way, everything purchased with a particular bill will be cataloged if this legislation makes it to law. All this will do is create a new black market for trade in alternative currencies. The powers that be are getting DESPERATE. Liberty is lost. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| Laura Bow User ID: 36299220 United States05/03/2013 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding, Quoting: wisc_natureboy counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking. If this is true then they should go after all the big banks that launder drug money. Always trying to put band aids on things instead of going to the root of the problem. This means to me they really have an alterior motive. Perhaps, I stated all I was told in my OP. Anything else would be speculation. But yeah, I speculate an ulterior motive too. WOW, "terrorism", just the excuse they need to try something...just wow. |
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| Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 30199236 United States05/03/2013 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. It is a very long way between a subcommittee ordered study and actual implementation. Quoting: Unixlike Yes, but if it involves additional money and/or power for THEM, it gets hustled to the front of the line. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
| goldielucks User ID: 794598 United States05/03/2013 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Senate Sub-committee leak: Cash to be tracked whenever and wherever it is spent- ID to be required. A former student of mine works for one of our US Senators. Quoting: wisc_natureboy This person informed me today that a certain sub-committee on competitiveness has commissioned a study on the feasibility of scanning cash every time it is exchanged. A scan of your real ID will be required to lawfully purchase with cash. The stated goal is to eliminate terrorist funding, counterfeit currency, and illegal drug trafficking. One suggestion tossed about in committee would 'tag' certain bills as known drug money and they would be rejected at the point of purchase. Either way, everything purchased with a particular bill will be cataloged if this legislation makes it to law. Terrorist this, and terrorist that... I'm so motherfucking SICK of this dog and pony show. The "government" is the biggest terrorist organization on planet earth. And BY FAR, the biggest drug importers and peddlers as well. It's not even open for debate. It's a FACT. This whole cash thing is just yet ANOTHER way to TOTALLY and COMPLETELY control every single thing you do, and say.  Fascism + communism =  |
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