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A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *

 
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Now here are some facts with a drawn conclusion you may find very interesting!


Chicago, IL
Houston, TX

City
Population

Chicago, IL (2.7 million)
Houston,Texas (2.15 million)

Median HH Income
$38,600
$37,000

% African-American
38.9%
24%

% Hispanic
29.9%
44%

% Asian
5.5%
6%

% Non-Hispanic White
38.7%
26%


Pretty similar until you compare the following:


Chicago, IL
Houston, TX

Concealed Carry gun law
no
yes

# of Gun Stores
0
84 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

Homicides, 2012
806
207

Homicides per 100K
28.4
9.6

Avg. January high temperature (F)
31°
63°


Conclusion: Cold weather causes murder.
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Actually cold weather drops the murder rate in Chicago big time.
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its all those damn nergos
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Yes! rotten cold weather...

Now here are some facts with a drawn conclusion you may find very interesting!


Chicago, IL
Houston, TX

City
Population

Chicago, IL (2.7 million)
Houston,Texas (2.15 million)

Median HH Income
$38,600
$37,000

% African-American
38.9%
24%

% Hispanic
29.9%
44%

% Asian
5.5%
6%

% Non-Hispanic White
38.7%
26%


Pretty similar until you compare the following:


Chicago, IL
Houston, TX

Concealed Carry gun law
no
yes

# of Gun Stores
0
84 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

Homicides, 2012
806
207

Homicides per 100K
28.4
9.6

Avg. January high temperature (F)
31°
63°


Conclusion: Cold weather causes murder.
 Quoting: The Facts 39326209
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Actually cold weather drops the murder rate in Chicago big time.
 Quoting: 90Rocky


Yep, In Northern areas at least, nearly all crime increases when the weather warms up.

I understand OP's sarcasm however.

Might as well be banned.

Current laws

In Chicago, gun owners are required to have a Chicago Firearm Permit, which costs $100 and must be renewed every three years.

Before getting the permit, the resident must complete a training course that includes at least four hours of classroom training and one hour of range time. Each gun must be registered with the Chicago Police Department at a one-time cost of $15 per gun, and an annual registration report must be filed every year.

Gun possession is permitted only inside a dwelling, not in a garage or on the outside grounds of the property.
Only one gun at a time may be kept in a usable state. Chicago's ordinances are being challenged in court, with plaintiffs alleging that they are so restrictive and burdensome as to interfere with citizens' Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
I like this kind of comparison. The 2 cities look remarkably similar until you hit the crime rates.

In fact, if Chicago was as hot as Houston, the comparision would most likely look even WORSE

for gun reduction idiots.
Now is the time.
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Actually cold weather drops the murder rate in Chicago big time.
 Quoting: 90Rocky


Yep, In Northern areas at least, nearly all crime increases when the weather warms up.

I understand OP's sarcasm however.

Might as well be banned.

Current laws

In Chicago, gun owners are required to have a Chicago Firearm Permit, which costs $100 and must be renewed every three years.

Before getting the permit, the resident must complete a training course that includes at least four hours of classroom training and one hour of range time. Each gun must be registered with the Chicago Police Department at a one-time cost of $15 per gun, and an annual registration report must be filed every year.

Gun possession is permitted only inside a dwelling, not in a garage or on the outside grounds of the property.
Only one gun at a time may be kept in a usable state. Chicago's ordinances are being challenged in court, with plaintiffs alleging that they are so restrictive and burdensome as to interfere with citizens' Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


And that's on top of the FOID nonsense.


The CCW thing will be interesting in a few weeks though. The deadline will be up and no way will the crooks have a bill a passed.

Wonder what sleazy stunts Rahm will pull to prevent constitutional carry from going into effect. Sandy Hook was less than a week after the court ruling.

What is the date for the "crisis actors" IL event again?
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Now here are some facts with a drawn conclusion you may find very interesting!


Chicago, IL
Houston, TX

City
Population

Chicago, IL (2.7 million)
Houston,Texas (2.15 million)

Median HH Income
$38,600
$37,000

% African-American
38.9%
24%

% Hispanic
29.9%
44%

% Asian
5.5%
6%

% Non-Hispanic White
38.7%
26%


Pretty similar until you compare the following:


Chicago, IL
Houston, TX

Concealed Carry gun law
no
yes

# of Gun Stores
0
84 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

Homicides, 2012
806
207

Homicides per 100K
28.4
9.6

Avg. January high temperature (F)
31°
63°


Conclusion: Cold weather causes murder.
 Quoting: The Facts 39326209


pigchef It is the salt on the roads.
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Where did you get 806 homicides for Chicago in 2012? It was 535, for a per 100K of 19.8. Still too many, but your stats are way off.
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Homicides, 2012
806
207


 Quoting: The Facts 39326209


this is an average if 2.2082 murders per day in the big
gov't loving and gun hating town of chicago.

what a masterpiece of human achievement.
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Homicides, 2012
806
207


 Quoting: The Facts 39326209


this is an average if 2.2082 murders per day in the big
gov't loving and gun hating town of chicago.

what a masterpiece of human achievement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34005279


Oh, quit your hating on Chicago.
It's a great city.
The city with broad shoulders.

Over 50% of the murders are gang-bangers
killing each other off and something like 80%
of the murders occur in the same 3 areas.

Avoid those areas and you are more safe than you are in Milwaukee.
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Where did you get 806 homicides for Chicago in 2012? It was 535, for a per 100K of 19.8. Still too many, but your stats are way off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15015575


hillary
What difference at this point does it make? hundreds more Americans are killed by negroes because they are not allowed to defend themselves
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If someone is going to present statistical evidence to support a claim, then the statistical evidence should at least be correct. Otherwise you might as well just say Houston had only 50 murders, cause "what difference does it make"?
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Where did you get 806 homicides for Chicago in 2012? It was 535, for a per 100K of 19.8. Still too many, but your stats are way off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15015575


hillary
What difference at this point does it make? hundreds more Americans are killed by negroes because they are not allowed to defend themselves
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14443159


I can see what you are tying to say...sadly you just are not smart.
Look at all the statistics for Rapes and violent crime and get back to us all...

We all get called raciest for just stating the numbers- it's your turn!
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Actually cold weather drops the murder rate in Chicago big time.
 Quoting: 90Rocky


Blacks don't like cold weather. This is clearly so because when I went to Alaska the only blacks I saw were stationed there on military bases.

Thus, it makes sense that since blacks commit way over half of all violent crimes and since they like to stay indoors when it is cold then crime would drop in the winter.
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If someone is going to present statistical evidence to support a claim, then the statistical evidence should at least be correct. Otherwise you might as well just say Houston had only 50 murders, cause "what difference does it make"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15015575


Oh come on! We all know that libtards are the best at twisting numbers to their own advantage. Like how during the last election I kept hearing that there are more whites on welfare than blacks. This is true of course and is to be expected seeing as how blacks account for but 13% of the population. Why didn't they use the numbers that actually tell us something? Why didn't they quote the per capita numbers? Because then the truth would be getting told.
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Houston's is the 4th largest city in the states. People forget this.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

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Chicago is run by butt-Rahmer; Houston is run by Porker, an out of the closet carpet-muncher.

Both suck at being mayor, so it's not about how they run affairs. Houston is more successful than Chicago, despite Houston's shitty mayor.

It's about the people who live in each city -- Houston has far more people who are independently-minded and don't want to mooch off the government.

Trusting the govt with one's happiness and safety is eschewed by most people from the South anyway.

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I'm 30 minutes from south side of Chicago and watch the news everyday.
We like to do an over- under on the body count from night before.
Bar-BBQ usually get shot up pretty good with 15-20 shot at once. Really screws up the Under bet. I used to deliver LTL in Back of the Yards and
Englewood. On school days community activist members with bright vest stood at ever corner as protection for kids walking home. They were paid from a $30 million fund from Washington. Top 3 community organization got the contract and Jesse Jackson of course. So tax payers all over the country pay to keep these kids safe cause they don't do it themselves. Why is it so hard to maintain a society for them. And they shoot each other over simple trash talking.

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Chicago, IL
Houston, TX

Concealed Carry gun law
no
yes

# of Gun Stores
0
84 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

Homicides, 2012
806
207

Homicides per 100K
28.4
9.6

Avg. January high temperature (F)
31°
63°


Conclusion: Cold weather causes murder.
 Quoting: The Facts 39326209


I knew it was the cold all along :'-(

I weep for humanity.
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your percentages for chiago dont add to 100 percent dumbass. Fix em and ill giveyou five stars.
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your percentages for chiago dont add to 100 percent dumbass. Fix em and ill giveyou five stars.
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A/C's can rate?

Holy shit..
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Chicago is run by butt-Rahmer; Houston is run by Porker, an out of the closet carpet-muncher.

Both suck at being mayor, so it's not about how they run affairs. Houston is more successful than Chicago, despite Houston's shitty mayor.

It's about the people who live in each city -- Houston has far more people who are independently-minded and don't want to mooch off the government.

Trusting the govt with one's happiness and safety is eschewed by most people from the South anyway.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


She's definitely a shitty mayor.

The problem, in general, is that the smartest and sanest people want nothing to do with politics, at least as far as holding an office. So that leaves the cretins of society to step in...
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Actually cold weather drops the murder rate in Chicago big time.
 Quoting: 90Rocky



Liberals now need to start banning warm weather. Then again, that will be right up their alley, since they're so fearful about global warming.
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Castle Doctrine baby, in your home and vechicle. Cures a lot of ills. God bless Texas.
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Castle Doctrine baby, in your home and vechicle. Cures a lot of ills. God bless Texas.
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Cures a lot of ills. hunter
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Castle Doctrine baby, in your home and vechicle. Cures a lot of ills. God bless Texas.
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Cures a lot of ills. hunter
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And keeps the florist busyspeedbanandance1rof1
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Actually cold weather drops the murder rate in Chicago big time.
 Quoting: 90Rocky


Yep, In Northern areas at least, nearly all crime increases when the weather warms up.

I understand OP's sarcasm however.

Might as well be banned.

Current laws

In Chicago, gun owners are required to have a Chicago Firearm Permit, which costs $100 and must be renewed every three years.

Before getting the permit, the resident must complete a training course that includes at least four hours of classroom training and one hour of range time. Each gun must be registered with the Chicago Police Department at a one-time cost of $15 per gun, and an annual registration report must be filed every year.

Gun possession is permitted only inside a dwelling, not in a garage or on the outside grounds of the property.
Only one gun at a time may be kept in a usable state. Chicago's ordinances are being challenged in court, with plaintiffs alleging that they are so restrictive and burdensome as to interfere with citizens' Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy

A lot of restrictions/ rules / and fees in Chicago.

Libtards don't understand that criminals don't follow the rules. Gun laws don't effect criminals.
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Homicides, 2012
806
207


 Quoting: The Facts 39326209


this is an average if 2.2082 murders per day in the big
gov't loving and gun hating town of chicago.

what a masterpiece of human achievement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34005279


applause2
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Re: A Tale of Two Cities *Chicago, IL-Houston, TX *
Homicides, 2012
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207


 Quoting: The Facts 39326209


this is an average if 2.2082 murders per day in the big
gov't loving and gun hating town of chicago.

what a masterpiece of human achievement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34005279


Oh, quit your hating on Chicago.
It's a great city.
The city with broad shoulders.

Over 50% of the murders are gang-bangers
killing each other off and something like 80%
of the murders occur in the same 3 areas.

Avoid those areas and you are more safe than you are in Milwaukee.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy

not quite brother cheese head.crime is pretty rampant everywhere here.yeah murder is more likely in some areas but a lot of shit goes down that is underreported .can't scare the tourists

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